Combating Classroom Indoctrination

GoogleNoAgenda · 2015-09-18T04:03:07+00:00

Welcome to the club. Now to really blow your mind, turn your new found vision and turn it on to every other facet at life and really find out who else is lying to you.

DavidByron2 · 2015-09-18T04:29:37+00:00

I really want to battle my way

Well you could tell the teacher that their anti-male remarks are sexually harassing you (ie creating a hostile educational environment that effects men, but not women) and ask them to stop so you don't have to report them for sexual harassment.

Lethn · 2015-09-18T06:46:02+00:00

The only thing I can suggest is resist and counter their propaganda, I'm actually in a similar sort of situation, the only difference being I wasn't dumb enough to attend university. Even though I'm an Anarchist I've always been a live and let live type but these bastards have been trying to invade the video games industry. I'm trying to build my own games and the last thing I want is some political ideologue telliing me what's acceptable and what's not to draw, write about or program.

If you really want to stir up trouble, then you could always complain about the moron and them to keep their political beliefs to themselves when they're teaching a subject nothing to do with politics however you might run into quite a bit of trouble either from the local goose steppers or the management themselves who this person will have ties with.

I think it's very important if people do talk about their own beliefs in a school/university setting they present multiple viewpoints, if they don't then they're just indoctrinating twats.

By the way, I always thought that having to 'analyze' what was 'going on' in a fucking story was a load of shit, I remember having to do nothing but that in the majority of my English lessons and I was always way happier at home if I read by my fucking self because then I didn't have to make up some kind of bullshit underlying meaning behind whatever I read.

It's fucking dumb that they're continuing this ridiculous practice into University as it removes the fun out of creating content entirely and makes people search for underlying themes which just aren't fucking there.

CheapShotKO · 2015-09-18T07:59:19+00:00

Take a recorder (preferably video + audio, like a laptop camera you can flip away from you, or a small HD camcorder you can hide). Phone is MEH unless you have a lot of storage for video, like a tonnnn, and long battery life while recording, and you can hide it, since most teachers don't want students on their phones while in class. HOW TO GET AROUND THAT -- Get a rubber phone holder with a camera hole and make a "shoulder strap" for your phone. They will just assume it is a phone holder, not there to record. I say a rubber holder because you can easily cut holes in the top and bottom (while your phone isn't in it, duh) and put straps through it, and attach it to your shoulder and put your phone in (with camcorder facing out, obviously). It can record in that position and no one will know. But you better have the storage and battery life, which not many phones will be able to do out of the box. Record the abuse.
Talk to teacher in their office during office hours. DO NOT mention you recorded the classroom abuse, and RECORD THIS TOO. What you want to do is: Don't have a current bad grade. People will assume you are just looking for a way out of the class because you are irresponsible. I would assume that if I heard about it. The point is, you are responsible for your grades, bad teacher or no. A bad grade if your fault. People know this, and everyone will see you as the bad guy, myself included, if you have a bad grade. Do your work. You also want to look clean and professional. Professional does not mean prom date tuxedo. Look it up if you don't know what it looks like. You want to be very nice and polite the whole time. Bring a copy of the syllabus too. And this time put your phone on your belt; it would look suspicious up close on a shoulder holder because it would stand out, but not on a belt. When they ask what you wanted to talk about, make sure no one else but you two can hear so you do not embarrass them, and say "I wanted to talk about class. I want to start off saying I think you are a very nice person," <---say it even if it's a lie. It's to butter them up. Then say, "but I am uncomfortable when you talk about X in (however way they do it). It comes off as very negative, and I looked over the syllabus (show them the syllabus), and it does not talk about that as being part of the necessary course information. It is also not presented in the book the way you present it. I wanted to let you know because it is affecting the course in a negative way for me, and I thought you would want that feedback, since if I am thinking that, other people probably are as well." If they want more details, be polite and THINK BEFORE YOU TALK. They might say, "How does it make you uncomfortable?" And you can answer honestly, but don't get emotional or mad. If you want, you can even say that you are nervous and want to go, but that you "just wanted to let them know," and that you are sorry, and excuse yourself. There is nothing wrong with that. Just think before you talk and don't make a fool or yourself, or just apologize profusely and leave, but only AFTER they know exactly what is bothering you. If they get mad at you, be prepared for that mentally and just say you are sorry and excuse yourself.
Try going to a class again, and keep recording the classes. You can record over ones where they do not do anything wrong. If the problem solves itself, HOORAY! They are a nice teacher! Send them a thank you card.
If it does not solve itself, you now have 3 (hopefully video) recordings: a) Them shaming you. b) You trying to get them to stop in a very polite and nice and awesome way. c) Them ignoring your awesome, nice politeness and shaming you more. Take this to who ever that person's boss is. When you call to make an appointment, tell them that there is a faculty member being sexually discriminatory and that you "don't want to make a big deal of it, but you have video of it and really want help," and that you want to come talk to them. They WILL talk to you. When you are there, just be really polite and say "I am sorry, this has been a nightmare for me, I don't know what to do, I am nervous." Then tell them what happened all the time, how you recorded it, and then how you very very nicely asked them to stop, and then how they kept doing it anyway. If the teacher was rude to you during your office meeting AT ALL, they will be absolutely fucked in their boss's eyes. You are just an innocent student with good grades who didn't want to be harassed in class, and you were so nice to them asking them to stop...and they get mad at YOU? THE HORROR! The person will be shitting their pants mad, even if they don't say it out loud, because they are responsible for them and that is a nightmare since you have video. This is the kind of things that get people yelled at as a minimum, possibly suspended or fired, and it definitely affects tenure (unless they already have it, but they can still get fired; you got effin video, hopefully). Also, you should bring a separate voice recorder so you can be like "I recorded it on my phone, I had a shoulder holder." Then put the phone in your pocket. They will assume that is your only recorder, and will not think about a voice recorder. So you can have that just in case too.

If this doesn't fix the problem, or especially if there are repercussions against you, that's a lawsuit. You have video evidence of repeat sexual discrimination, video of you asking for it to stop, and the school refusing to help you (especially if you record it).

TL;DR be nice, make people accountable.

Title	Combating Classroom Indoctrination
Author	SantasPanties20
Upvotes	10
Comments	24
Date	September 18, 2015 3:47 AM UTC (10 years ago)
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