Deadbeats

AskingToFeminists · 2019-10-25T12:28:08+00:00

I'm going to post a comment I wrote to a feminist who wanted to know what the MRM was about. I think I also serves as an answer to your question :

"I would say that the quintessential gender roles are what we call here malagency : the idea that men are perceived as hyper-agentic, and women as hypo-agentic. Agency being the ability to make meaningful decisions, this means that men are perceived as all-powerful, and women as all-powerless.

That is, women are treated as objects. Unable to do anything of importance. Anything that happens to a woman happens to her, not because of her, but because of other circumstances. If a woman commits some horror, it's because of bad circumstances, because of past trauma, because someone made her do it. It's the idea that women are perpetual victims. A woman was beaten up? It's monstrous what is done to her. A woman is addicted? Well, she had a shitty past, she needs acomodations. A woman is violent? What was done to her for it to happen? There must be some explanation in her past. Or maybe she was influenced by some man. Anyway, no matter what complaint a woman makes, it must be valid and paid attention to. After all, women aren't able to have a meaningful impact, so unless we care about their complaints, their problems won't get fixed.

In opposition, men are treated like God's and demons. Everything that happens is because of them. They are responsible for things. Anything that happens to them is as a consequence of their actions. That means they get credit for what they do, but also for what they didn't do. A man received a beating? He must have deserved it. A man is addicted? Well, he made bad decisions. He should control himself. A man is violent? He's a monster, lock him up. A man who complains is the refore not a man. A man is all powerful, so he doesn't complain. He is in charge. He fixes things.

In short, women complain, and men fix things for them.

In traditional societies, it results in men being out in charge of everything, including women, in order to provide for them and to protect them.

In more affluent societies, where women are less in need of being protected and provided for, that means that women start to complain about the restrictions, which aren't so beneficial. As men are in charge of fixing what women complain about, they give women what they want.

But those gender roles are inscribed in our instincts. We are constantly wondering, women and men alike "are the women safe? Do they need something?" and to satiate those instincts, we find smaller and smaller things to fix for women. And as the external sources of danger to women disappear, the only source of danger left is men, the ones who are all powerful and all responsible.

So we necessarily see appearing people blaming men for everything hard women have to face/ever had to face. They say things like "the history of mankind is the history of the oppression of women by men". And they look for what next women are victims of. Women are victims of air conditioning. Women are victims of how men sit, of how men talk. And the burden on men to fix everything forever increases.

Meanwhile, men being seen as hyper-agentic, any complaint they have get dismissed and ignored. And as the burden and the blaming increases, we see them killing themselves in droves, checking out of a society that is willfully deaf to their complaints, or even sometimes lashing out at it... "

So, that is why there is all those double standards

SCROTAL-SACK · 2019-10-25T14:23:36+00:00

Not even on the same level. The guy just doesn't want responsibility to financially provide for it, thats all, and he gets shamed and shunned for not wanting to give 18+ years of money for it... If the woman doesn't want responsibility to financially provide for it, she can literally KILL it.. and she'll be congratulated lol

grandmasbroach · 2019-10-25T18:47:15+00:00

Why is it that deadbeat dad is even in our common vernacular when women are more likely to not pay their support?

Title	Deadbeats
Author	lon3ly_rooster
Upvotes	29
Comments	9
Date	October 25, 2019 12:01 PM UTC (6 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
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