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[–][deleted] 32 points33 points34 points 6 years ago (25 children) | Copy Link
This meme really does display the central error of the madness endemic in all these political extremest groups on the left.
The male character says "You can't just treat us the way we've treated you for centuries".
All of the ideological extremists on the left, it seems, have this same central error.
They claim to be hundreds of years old. They claim to believe that they have experienced hundreds of years of oppression.
In fact, they have simply been lied to. They are 20, or 25, maybe 35 years old, and they have been lied to. they have been told stories about the past, they believe the stories, they identify with the stories, - and here I do not know what happened, how they were driven insane - but somehow they internalize these stories to such a degree that they come to believe they actually experienced them, and for hundreds of years.
i do not claim to know what can be done about it. i do not know what is driving so many young people insane in this same specific way, and why it is so tightly focused on leftist ideological groups.
[–]xNOM 19 points20 points21 points 6 years ago (23 children) | Copy Link
I'd love to be treated how women were for centuries. Sit at home on my ass while the other sex does all of the actual work.
[–]pyschoandie 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Ive mentioned this many times the 50s weren't good for anyone
[–]Putrid_Carpet 4 points5 points6 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
In my research everything after 1890/95 SIGNIFICANTLY increased human happiness.
Humans struggled a ton as a whole prior to This period.
[–]xNOM 5 points6 points7 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
What increased human happiness (and what changed gender roles) was technical advances from the industrial revolution. Due to MEN.
[+][deleted] -8 points-7 points-6 points 6 years ago (19 children) | Copy Link
I think, if you want to protect your sanity, if you want to avoid losing touch, you should practice a certain kind of mental / verbal hygiene. You should carefully recognize in your speech and in your thinking that you were not there, you are not hundreds of years old, you did not see it.
you say
And idk if you are just being funny / cute, or if you really believe it. Either way, you did not see women siting home on their buts for centuries. the stories I was told were about men working outside the home and women working inside the home, my stories are probably at least a decade or two older than your stories, but i was not there either.
i would recommend
I'd love to be treated how the way some radical MGTOW extremists claim women were for centuries. Sit at home on my ass while the other sex does all of the actual work.
[–]xNOM 3 points4 points5 points 6 years ago (15 children) | Copy Link
You should carefully recognize in your speech and in your thinking that you were not there, you are not hundreds of years old, you did not see it.
The historical record is quite clear on what gender roles used to be like. Only members of the social justice idiot religion think women were "oppressed." Or that such a thing is even possible.
Go to any third world shithole today and try to make the argument that women there are "oppressed" by men. The idea is laughable.
[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 6 years ago (14 children) | Copy Link
i cautioned you about claiming women 'sat on their asses' for hundreds of years, you fell back to 'women were not oppressed.'
One false narrative: Women were oppressed.
Another false narrative: Women did no work at all.
[–]xNOM 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link
Women did the easy safe work. And most of it was in the home. I don't see how this is so controversial.
Women STILL do the easy safe work.
[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 6 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link
Well, for one thing you are talking about 'women' as if they all lived the same lives. I get that feminists and 'women were oppressed' people do that, but that does not make it ok.
I do not think that the work done by a typical woman in the period from the big bang through about 1940 could be described as 'easy'. There were certainly women who labored all day at physically demanding tasks. Just as you suggested earlier, when you said
it has always been the case that some women work harder than others, not only because they live in less developed nations but also because of wealth or other reasons.
It can also not have been the case that there were zero men of leisure, men who did no work, there must have been some women who worked harder than some men, there must always have been some women who were stronger than some men.
It seems clear that there were some men who were oppressed by some women, men who were enslaved, owned by women, men who were serfs, ruled by women, and it seems clear that the reverse must also have been true, there were women who were oppressed by men.
[–]valenin 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Whatever grade you’re getting in your logic class, you don’t deserve it.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
well, i am not currently being graded on logic by anyone other than you, so you can give me whatever grade you feel i deserve.
So grade me, angry spiteful little creature, how do you find my logic?
[–]xNOM 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link
I do not think that the work done by a typical woman in the period from the big bang through about 1940 could be described as 'easy'.
Well then you're not trying very hard. Before the industrial revolution, there was a such thing "women's work."
Easy and hard are relative terms. You're just being an obtuse gynocentrist and pretending not to know what I mean when I say "easy." I mean easy compared to what their husbands, sons, fathers, and brothers did. Women simply could not do "men's work."
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
you call me obtuse, when you didn't even read the comment you replied to.
i do not believe you are actually that stupid, to believe in cookie cutter women who all worked less than all the cookie cutter men. men died in wars, but they left no widows in your world, no women who had to support a family. there were no lazy men, all the men worked, and all of them did awesome work that was way to hard for any woman.
you are not that stupid.
[–]xNOM 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
This is a ridiculous, emotional, gynocentric social justice narrative which attempts to diffuse the statistical reality that men and women are extremely different. Different enough that there was almost zero overlap between "men's work" and "women's work" in the preindustrial era. This lack of overlap was due to culture and based in the reality that women could not do men's work, and ultimately on the fact that sexual dimorphism is an evolutionary reality with real benefits and consequences.
[–]pyschoandie 3 points4 points5 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Ok but it is true woman didn't have rights, they cleaned all day took care of the kids however they also didn't have the same level of responsibilities men had, I've seen my partner manageing the finances n den add in one income which is inevitable going to lead to alot of men over working n go back farther men broke their backs on the farm, it wasn't good for anyone
[–]xNOM 4 points5 points6 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Not the point. Women were not "oppressed" by men. This is a childish idea thought up by angry, overeducated, incompetent, man-hating white lesbians with penis envy. They need this idea to explain why women need to be subsidized forever. And to explain their own shortcomings.
[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It is not true that women didn't have rights.
You have been lied to.
[–]Men-Are-Human 27 points28 points29 points 6 years ago (14 children) | Copy Link
Fighting men for giving them comfortable lives with literal genocide.
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[–]otterlyclueless18 points 6 years ago [recovered] (10 children) | Copy Link
The #killallmen hashtag being popular is proof that many feminists want to do that to men.
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[–]UndeleteParent 4 points5 points6 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
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You think indentured servitude, being a breeder, and having no voice outside of what a man tells you you can do, is ‘comfortable’? You’re out of your mind.
You think indentured servitude, being a breeder, and having no voice outside of what a man tells you you can do, is ‘comfortable’?
You’re out of your mind.
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[–]the-medium-place -3 points-2 points-1 points 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
It’s satire. Shitty satire, but satire meant to point out how people will get offended over a hashtag despite there being ongoing femicides in places like Mexico and how there’s a long history of people killing women just for being women (ex. China’s one-child policy). No one actually wants a male genocide, and it’s not feasible anyway. Women would never be able to kill us in masses like they’ve been killed.
Dude, I’m all for men’s rights, but why don’t we actually discuss addressing men’s issues instead of just shitting on feminists and making generalizations like how we don’t want to be generalized? This is why people think this sub is a joke
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
"No one actually wants a male genocide."
Haha.
r/pinkpillfeminism r/blackpillfeminism
[–]the-medium-place 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Even if they did say that seriously, it doesn’t counter my point that they don’t represent all feminists and are really just a loud minority. If we’re trying to fight against generalizing “all men,” how can we allow ourselves to also generalize a clearly complex group and movement? Pink and black pill feminism are clearly just types of feminism
Im fully aware of that and support feminism lol but a true feminist who wants equality wouldnt use that tag even ironically. Its like me tweeting out #killallwhitepeople to support black rights or something
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[–]Men-Are-Human 11 points12 points13 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
No, but actual genocides are genocides - and those always target men. Google it.
[–]Men-Are-Human 12 points13 points14 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
That's what's happening to men!
And where is the ‘genocide’? Cite reputable sources.
Literally every genocide targets men, as I've already shown. Feminist theorists like Sally Millar Gearheart, popular Feminist celebrities like Clementine Ford, The Scum Manifesto, and many more are all in favour of a male genocide.
[–]Mythandros 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Wow, you're an idiot. Holy shit. You must have slithered in from the feminist subs. I'd advise you to go back, feminist.
[–]Lion_amongst_gods 15 points16 points17 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You mean how women are treated with love and respect for centuries? No mandatory military conscription, etc...
[–]Metroid545 4 points5 points6 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
First you start off with a simple lie that they are oppressed, then you give them an enemy. Finally you say the only way to defeat their enemy is to help you do whatever you want.
[–]N19864 3 points4 points5 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Fighting imagined oppression with oppression
You are welcome.
[–]Dromeian 5 points6 points7 points 6 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Please they're acting as if they're attractive as shit and NOT a land whale with dyed hair
[–]pyschoandie 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
But shouldn't men fight der arguments with logic, not something objective n irrelevant like level of attraction
[–]Dromeian 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
i am aware of that, and there is much to criticise with this post, but i dont like how they are trying to portray themselves
That's fair, ur right by their own words "we shouldn't have to look good for men. I apologise I didn't understand the angle u were coming from
[–]Dromeian 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
its alright, it was partly how i framed it lol
[–]pyschoandie 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
😁
[–]DubsPackage 5 points6 points7 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Women are offering to paying our bills while we sit home?
[–]ZEGEZOT 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
"For centuries." That's like saying: n"oh well with hyena's the women are dominant and starve the len so then why don't we fight that oppression?" it doesn't work like that.
Also men have died for those centuries so women could have rights. And in some ancient civilisations like Sparta women were put on the same level as men because you can't have men without women, and you can't have women without men.
And by we you mean other people and by you you mean other people.
[+][deleted] -7 points-6 points-5 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
On a bit of a sidenote: from my basic understanding of the text, The SCUM manifesto is generally considered to be a parody of some of the illogical arguments used by certain sexist groups back when it was written (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SCUM_Manifesto#As_parody_and_satire). Using the SCUM manifesto as a legitimate manifesto is like using the Jonethan's Swift's "A modern proposal" for real world political advice.
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