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Men-Are-Human · 2019-09-05T12:14:49+00:00

Here is a feminist scholarly paper basically admitting feminists conceal female perpetrators of Domestic Violence - https://redd.it/cbj3dg there is more of this. In fact, here is a video laying out systemic Feminist fraud: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsgeDrlRQWc worth watching the whole thing. The Duluth Model was created by Feminists out of Patriarchy Theory, and designed to exclude male victims and female abusers. The deeper you look the more you realise that the psudo Feminists are the ones who actually care about equality - the rest just don't care at all.

The white feather campaign to recruit men to fight for women was by the Suffragettes - who also held back the female vote by being murderous terrorists

AskingToFeminists · 2019-09-05T12:09:52+00:00

Take a look at domestic violence. It's one of the most damning cases that can be made against feminism. Interviews of Erin Pizzey, the first person who ever opened a battered woman's shelter, are a good thing to take a look.

A few stats could be good, so take a look at the Partner Abuse State of Knowledge project (PASK), the biggest meta-analysis on the subject.

I would also recommend finding a few choice passages of "coordinating community responses to domestic violence : lessons from Duluth and beyond", by Ellen L. Pence (one of the creator of the Duluth model), like chapter 2, p28-29 :

"The Power and Control Wheel, which was developed by battered women attending women's groups, was originally a description of typical behaviors accompanying the violence. In effect it said, "When he is violent, he gets power and he gets control." Somewhere early in our organizing efforts, however, we changed the message to "he is violent in order to get control or power." The difference is not semantic, it is ideological. Somewhere we shifted from understanding the violence as rooted in a sense of entitlements to rooted in a desire for power. By determining that the need or desire for power was the motivating force behind battering, we created a conceptual framework that, in fact, did not fit the lived experience of many of the men and women we were working with. Like those we were criticizing, we reduced our analysis to a psychological universal truism. The DAIP staff—like the therapist insisting it was an anger control problem, or the judge wanting to see it as an alcohol problem, or the defense attorney arguing that it was a defective wife problem—remained undaunted by the difference in our theory and the actual experiences of those we were working with. We all engaged in ideological practices and claimed them to be neutral observations.Eventually, we began to give into the process that is the heart of the Duluth model: interagency communication based on discussions of real cases. It was the cases themselves that created the chink in each of our theoretical suits of armor. Speaking for myself, I found that many of the men I interviewed did not seem to articulate a desire for power over their partner. Although I relentlessly took every opportunity to point out to men in the groups that they were so motivated and merely in denial, the fact that few men ever articulated such a desire went unnoticed by me and many of my coworkers. Eventually, we realized that we were finding what we had already predetermined to find. The DAIP staff were interpreting what men seemed to expect or feel entitled to as a desire. When we had to start explaining women's violence toward their partners, lesbian violence, and the violence of men who did not like what they were doing, we were brought back to our original undeveloped thinking that the violence is rooted in how social relationships (e.g., marriage) and the rights people feel entitled to within them are socially, not privately, constructed"

And for more modern things on DV, the feminist scholarly paper "the feminist case for acknowledging women perpetrators of domestic violence" is a mine of pure gold, with sayings like :

The gendered framing of domestic violence aligned with the work of the feminist movement more broadly, harmoniously positioning the movements as inter-connected. Domestic violence was specifically framed around a collective “oneness” of women as victims and men as perpetrators.

In case you ever need a quote from a feminist academic stating clear as day that the feminist perspective is "men bad, women victims"

And :

While the movement deploys gender-neutral language of “spouse,” “partner,” etc., the gendered frame still dominates.53 Service providers still use gender as a proxy for distinguishing between victims and perpetrators, for example

Don't be fooled by them saying : see? The language is neutral. It still works with men bad, women victims as a default

bernedindigo · 2019-09-05T12:27:40+00:00

I made a primer on why Feminism is based on lies, misuse of data and pure myopia.

https://www.reddit.com/r/exfeminists/comments/chbjew/feminism_is_based_on_lies_here_are_the_reasons/

Evildl17 · 2019-09-05T12:34:47+00:00

I would say another thing worth looking into is feminism reworking issues issues like abortion into men vs women to spur gender divides, minimizing violence by women, such as with Erin Pizzeys DV stidies and Katherine Knight in Australia where men can't be seen as victims of DV, or outright reframing murder as feminists liberation as you see with Aileen Woronos, and to a lesser degree Michelle Carter.

Additionally, you can always tell a fauxminist by a lack of understanding of facts, issues and history that have been diluted and cut into snippets that prevent a deeper understanding of an issue when its more complicated. Basically they give enough information for people to think the cup is full when its it's nearly almost empty. Its a condescending form of spreading information that prevents actual progress and used for gaining eyes and numbers on their side of an issue. Case in point, wage gap but also worth considering is the multiple accounts of Sojourn Truths "Ain't I a Woman?" speech to the point where they manipulated initially to draw eyes to racism and then later to erase the racism prevalent in the early movement.

turbulance4 · 2019-09-09T13:58:47+00:00

You can talk about how NOW is constantly fighting against shared parenting legislation under the frame "enforcing traditional gender roles." I can get you a few links if you need help.

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