I think I made a feminist's head implode with a conversation about drunk consent.

Hungerwolf · 2014-04-20T15:19:30+00:00

I prefer the quicker to the point version, based on a true story.

I was offered sex by a girl who was very drunk. I was also very drunk. If I had done it, who would have raped who? What if she was sober?

Edit- That gets you into the meat of the fallacy, which invariably leads one of four outcomes- blatant misandry, which, aside from a self-avowed misandrist will cause pause, throwing the concept of consent out the window, a combination of the first two, or the claim that BOTH parties are rapists. Then it's just a matter of asking which one would be found guilty in American court. Privilege, right?

2014-04-21T01:36:31+00:00

I think it's stupid to think that someone can't give consent. Yes, if they are not even able to tell it, I agree. But if you tell me yes, you consented. It's not to the other to check how much you are drunk or whatever. It's your responsibility to not get drunk at a point you do stupid stuff

If you are drunk and destroy a car, you won't be able to use that excuse.

I'm a woman, I would have raped my boyfriend on our first one night stand if we follow that notion

BrunoPonceJones · 2014-04-20T18:33:48+00:00

I don't feel like these are fair comparisons. Statutory rape is just that: statutorily decided to be a near equivalent to actual rape. It's up to the states where they set this arbitrary age limit on being able to give consent for sex.

One is a statutory distinction, while the other is a mental state condition. Blending the two makes for a much more complicated issue, one which would result in strange outcomes that laws don't normally contemplate, let alone some random stranger on Omegle.

generaljony · 2014-04-20T17:55:09+00:00

I'm confused. If a woman is drunk and has sex with a child, she is a rapist. An underage woman can rape a drunk man. The law doesn't discriminate between gender. If it does can you point me to some literature.

If both parties are drunk I'm not actually sure what happens but, legally speaking, advantage isnt conferred by gender. If I'm wrong, can you point me to some literature.

Title	I think I made a feminist's head implode with a conversation about drunk consent.
Author	urtygurt
Upvotes	0
Comments	15
Date	April 20, 2014 2:41 PM UTC (12 years ago)
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