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I was taught vice versa.

rokstola

December 29, 2016
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Title I was taught vice versa.
Author

rokstola

Upvotes 9
Comments 13
Date December 29, 2016 9:36 AM UTC
(9 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/5kw0tr/i_was_taught_vice_versa/
Archive Link https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/i-was-taught-vice-versa.934969
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[–]Ultramegasaurus 14 points15 points16 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Projection. It's mostly women who feel entitled to men's money, protection, devotion etc.

[–]SaiHottari 4 points5 points6 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I've yet to hear a feminist accusation that is not projection on some level.

[–]BDMR_lurker 11 points12 points13 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Well, it's true.

Then again, men don't owe a fucking thing to women either.

At which point so many women turn trad-con.

[–]SworntotheDeath 3 points4 points5 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's priceless when it happens. They'll usually say something along the lines of, well, it can be sweet, or there is value to some traditions... although why that one in particular?

When you look at it objectively, on average, the dominant culture seems to want to give women all of the privileges and none of the responsibilities.

Even the so-called debate on allowing women into combat roles is bogus. Men who don't meet the physical standards for combat are often disciplined, whereas women get lower standards and no negative consequences. And the whole reason we want women in combat is because it looks better for their careers and promotions. At the same time, if a young man doesn't register to be drafted, he does not have the right to vote. The suffragettes never demanded that women earn the right to vote by signing up for the right to die in war.

[–]pm_me_good_games_plz 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

fucking teach yourself some fucking respect it's not because you put fucking swear words on your comments that it makes more fucking sense.

I mean seriously :/

[–]rokstola 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

fucking for real, like fucking fuck.

[–]PotatoDonki 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You guys sound like Negan.

[–]Gamogi 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

How about this: Teach your fucking children that nobody owes them a fucking thing.

[–]William__F0ster -1 points0 points1 point 9 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

That's parent blaming.

And we all know that 'parent' means 'mom', amiright? amiright? amiright?

Typical! Everything always ends up being the fault of the women! Women get blamed for everything in this hellhole of accursed Western first world culture we were born into, amiright? amiright? amiright?

The woman who wrote this obviously has such a bad case of internalised misogyny that she doesn't even know how much she hates other women!

Where are the angry Transylvanian peasants with the lederhosen, the pitchforks and the burning torches at?

[–]rokstola 4 points5 points6 points 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

I was taught as a kid to get a job, stay physically fit, be smart, be this and that, for the sole purpose of attracting a potential wife.

In contrast, my sister was raised to sit around and wait for a rich man to sweep her off her feet and support her. This is the case for most women.

If not, sign a fucking prenup.

[–]William__F0ster 3 points4 points5 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

my sister was raised to sit around and wait for a rich man to sweep her off her feet and support her

How old are you!?!?

[–]SworntotheDeath 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

There are similar standards in place in the romantic world today. The man must initiate and risk rejection, woo, seduce, pay every step of the way, and must not complain (lest he be labelled an entitled creep) if his monetary investments into a relationship are not reciprocated by intimate investments. The man is expected to be the breadwinner and accept his wife's decision if she decides to scale back or end her career.

I think it's crystal clear that when it comes to romance, men are expected to support women.

[–]William__F0ster 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I don't buy any of what you've just said there.

There are elements of truth in it so I'm not saying it's completely delusional, but you paint your picture of "the romantic world today" with such broad, splashy brush-strokes that it makes about as much sense as feminists who claim all men are rapists.

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