Interesting article. Strangely from Elle.

2010-05-20T09:39:05+00:00

A man will never be able to make make the choice if a baby is born or not, no matter how much he hates the idea of parenthood or how much he believes a fetus is his baby and abortion is killing it, a woman should never be forced to abortion or to give birth if she doesn't want it. But I strongly support a "male abortion" where a man within the legal abortion time can refuse all parental rights and duties. Lets hope the "man-pill" gets approved soon so men won't risk their homes and bank account every time they have sex.

Leprecon · 2010-05-20T13:24:42+00:00

At a National Abortion Federation conference in the early 1990s, Claire Keyes, the former director of a Pittsburgh abortion clinic, says she tried to incorporate a male-inclusive agenda—one-on-one counseling for men, a public journal where they could express their thoughts and feelings, pamphlets tailored to their experiences—but was shot down. “There were people who were shouting at me, saying, ‘This is not about men; this is about women, and we have fought long and hard to get men’s hands off our bodies.’ ”

This made me sad.

My viewpoints on this can be easily summarized. I don't support the right to choose for men. As a man it is easy to choose because men aren't the ones who have to be pregnant. A woman should have the right to choose what happens to her own body and to impose rules on that is morally wrong. Though a man should not have the right to choose, he should have a right to opt out. This choice to opt out should only be available during pregnancy (or in cases where a woman hides her pregnancy the man should still have the choice to opt out) Once you have decided to be a father to the child, you should not have the choice to opt-out.

Edit: Oh, and it will take a very long time until these kind of arrangements will exist. Why? Because being pregnant is not a choice yet. Being pregnant is not a choice because the option to stop being pregnant is not yet a given. Since many women oppose abortion, those women have no choice but to have a child once they are pregnant. A man's choice to opt out can only be given once all women also have that choice. Women don't have that choice yet because for many abortion is not an option. IMO these anti abortion assholes are also messing it up for us guys.

2010-05-21T00:38:54+00:00

Poor kid gets to find out later that Dad wanted her aborted.

monkeyboots · 2010-05-20T22:32:11+00:00

The only 100% effective method of preventing pregnancy is abstinence (considering both partner's reproductive systems are in working order).

If you can't trust the woman you're sleeping with to abort an unwanted pregnancy. If you can't support a child. If you don't want children. Don't have sex.

Because, the whole point of sex is reproduction.

Women will always have the upper-hand in situations like this because men already made their choice in the matter: whenever they ejaculate inside a woman they are deciding to take responsibility for whatever results. Women then take responsibility for whatever results by choosing to keep the baby or abort.

Title	Interesting article. Strangely from Elle.
Author	Gareth321
Upvotes	10
Comments	9
Date	May 20, 2010 7:46 AM UTC (16 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
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