Is chivalry to blame?

avoiceformen · 2010-04-18T06:38:59+00:00

I voted this one up because it is very well written and approaches the subject with some reason. It is the type of literature in the men's movement that needs to be considered given the amount of scrutiny that chivalry is currently undergoing.

However, true to blog of it's origin, this is really nothing more than an effort to frame the issue in a way that leaves traditional thinking intact.

It is erroneous, IMO, to assume that chivalry was a construct that evolved in a vacuum. It came into being as a result of the early human biological mandate to protect and provide for women. It was a code of conduct much older civilization itself that was simply named and institutionalized long after it was part of human nature.

And that is precisely what explains its continued practice long after it became a source of destruction for men, and its practice some forty years since the culture has egregiously exploited it to the peril of men and boys.

All feminism is,after all, is state enforced chivalry. And the reason it exists is because the process is just as unconscious as a man's instinct to stand on a ship as it goes down, rather than take the seat of a women on a lifeboat.

Yes, in my mind chivalry is to blame, but that is also a pretty harsh word for what men are wired to do.

I did enjoy the piece, though.

Godspiral · 2010-04-18T16:48:13+00:00

I disagree that the good of society, including love and children need to be secondary to personal autonomy.

However, a legal framework that favours one gender over the other hurts society, by discouraging family units, and the supporting of existing children (single mothers). Even if most of the population is stupid and ignorant, the disadvantaged gender victims do eventually clarify the disadvantage to the others.

Chivalry, or weighing the pain of women as greater than the pain of men, is institutionalized in the court system, and in society in general. Most of us (but especially women) are conditioned to believe abuse complaints for example.

Title	Is chivalry to blame?
Author	melb22
Upvotes	11
Comments	17
Date	April 18, 2010 4:03 AM UTC (16 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/bsio4/is_chivalry_to_blame/
Archive Link	https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/is-chivalry-to-blame.1049817 https://theredarchive.com/post/1049817

Comments