“Make Them Scared” web site contains uncorroborated accusations of sexual misconduct against college men.

tenchineuro · 2018-10-05T21:59:21+00:00

“We want to start a movement,” the page reads. “We encourage other campuses to adopt our model.”

The site was registered in November 2017, but was not active until late September, when more than 40 men have had their names and allegations posted, ranging from digital harassment to rap.

At first I was concerned, but they are cracking down on rap, so they can't be all bad. /s

Lupinfujiko · 2018-10-05T23:45:24+00:00

Well, it's working.

The scariest thing in society is not a man in a dark alley. It's an angry woman with a cell phone.

ThePigmanAgain · 2018-10-06T00:32:43+00:00

My manager just submitted a report about that time Homer Simpson grabbed his ass then made up some lame excuse about a Gummy Venus, and how he reported the incident to Santa's Little Helper but the stupid creature just sat there scratching himself -- the stupid creature in question being Santa's Little Helper, not my manager. We eagerly await their response.

I also tried to find out who hosts the filthy thing, but couldn't. The B in the favicon suggests blogspot, hence Google but that's all i could get.

Cristoff13 · 2018-10-06T08:11:27+00:00

I found the site in question. The introduction/faq page is just disingenuous to an incredible degree. Here's some highlights from it:

This website is not a court of law. If a name is on the list, all it means is that we have received an accusation against them. If the name of someone you know appears on this list, take note and proceed with caution, but it does not mean they have necessarily committed a crime.
We do not have the ability to determine whether any accused party is guilty of the accused acts, so take all names listed with a grain of salt.

The feminist misconception that as long as the penalties aren't judicial ones, they aren't serious. You can be publicly identified and shamed as a rapist, but since you haven't been declared guilty by a court, that's not so bad, right?

And contrary to the feminist idea that under the "patriarchy" rape accusations aren't taken seriously, they are actually taken very seriously in our society. She can state "it does not mean they have necessarily committed a crime", but many people who read the list will automatically assume the men listed are guilty, or will have their view of the men severely tarnished.

That being said, we no longer allow names to be submitted anonymously (the point when this changed is marked on the list), which means all accusers have given us some form of personal identification, in addition to some form of identification of the accused in order to avoid misunderstanding and confusion.

Since they haven't publicly listed the name of the accusers, these are still effectively anonymous accusations. And they wouldn't have the time or skills to vet the accusers names, so many of the accuser names being supplied are going to be bogus anyhow.

If we have any reason to believe an accusation may be false, we will not publish it. Our intention is to do everything we can to avoid publishing false claims.

Since they don't have the resources or experience of a police department, their ability to distinguish between false and legitimate claims is going to be limited. What will it take for them decide an accusation is false? In practice I expect most requests to have names removed will be ignored even if evidence is supplied.

Most people already know the statistics about false reports. Basically, they’re very, very rare. In an anonymous system? Probably markedly less rare. In any system where an accuser has to attach their name to the accusation? We’re back to very rare. And our accusers have attached their names to their accusations for us to see. In exchange for their trust, we're here to take all the backlash they'd encounter if they went public with their names.

Well, false rape reports aren't actually very very rare, but that's up for debate. She's right though having the accuser attach their name to accusation would decrease the incidence of false accusations (provided they were legitimate and not fake of course). However the site doesn't do this. They claim to have the names stored privately, but this doesn't achieve anything. The creators of the site also claim they are there to take the backlash from the accusations, but they haven't even attached their names to the site and are still maintaining their anonymity.

thrway_1000 · 2018-10-05T21:07:15+00:00

Archive -- https://archive.is/9XPyI

user_miki · 2018-10-06T08:28:53+00:00

“We have something called ‘qualified privilege,’ because the information we publish is meant to promote public safety/inform the public of a potential danger.”

This can go both ways.A list of accusers that post false claims of sexual assault.

The burden of proof should be on accuser not accused.If you publish one name on that list you ruin his life and he has to prove is innocent.

1LegendaryWombat · 2018-10-06T12:17:49+00:00

Thats insane. This is even worse than going to the police or something, at least there theres a chance you can use evidence to prove your innocence, this will get you fucked over by your peers

The name “Make Them Scared” is “admittedly ominous-sounding” and “alludes to the injustice of women having to live their life in fear of sexual assault and harassment, while perpetrators can easily live their lives free of any fear of being caught or held accountable for their actions.”

What? That isn't true at all, those simply accused of sexual assault or rape are reviled, those that actually do it? Even more so. This is also trying to counter harassment(perceived or otherwise)...with harassment. Also...obligatory only like 2% of the population commits crimes, yadda yadda.

“In order for someone to prosecute us, they’d have to prove beyond a doubt that the claims we’ve posted are false,” they said. “This would be incredibly difficult to prove, and if anyone did have substantial evidence to prove the accusation against them was false, and sent it to us, we would immediately remove the name.”

Fuck you. I encourage anybody that gets a claim against them thats on here and is proven to be not guilty to immediately prosecute them. Include screenshots, records of the web page, etc and nail them for that intolerable smugness.

“We have something called ‘qualified privilege,’ because the information we publish is meant to promote public safety/inform the public of a potential danger.”

All aspects of Life are a potential danger, this is fear mongering masquerading as righteousness.

“Make Them Scared” web site contains uncorroborated accusations of sexual misconduct against college men.

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Title	“Make Them Scared” web site contains uncorroborated accusations of sexual misconduct against college men.
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