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Middle-aged men and suicide

boringcarpets

February 18, 2022
38 upvotes
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Title Middle-aged men and suicide
Author

boringcarpets

Upvotes 38
Comments 10
Date February 18, 2022 4:30 PM UTC
(4 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/svm3aq/middleaged_men_and_suicide/
Archive Link https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/middle-aged-men-and-suicide.1102618
https://theredarchive.com/post/1102618
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Comments

[–]Algoresball 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Great post, thank you for sharing.

[–]PQKN051502 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Thanks for sharing.

[–]Ukti20 12 points13 points14 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Divorce rape -> Suicide

It's that simple.

I just wonder that there aren't more rampages.

[–]rabel111 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

This study run by a woman found the usual feminist myths it was looking for. Male suicide is due to men's personality traits, masculinity and emotional illiteracy. What a surprise that a woman finds the reason men kill themselves is this woman's foul sexist attitudes to masculinity. Also contributing, because it's too hard to hide with pretzel logic, challenges of mid-life, relationship breakdown, and socio-economic factors.

[–]rahsoft -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

wouldnt bother with this thread when even the OP a former volunteer is bias

[–]rabel111 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I too used to counsel for a national free telephone counselling service and have had the "training". What once were simple services providing support and referrals for people in need, regardless of their sex, race, choices, politics or circumstances, are now woke factories run by neo-liberal ideologists, using judgmental rankings to priorise or exclude people from services on the basis of their sex, race, sexuality, choices and politics.

Any service that supports an ideology that insists that masculinity is the cause of male suicide is so fundamentally flawed, so harmful, it should be avoided at all costs by vulnernable people in need and shamed.

[–]Brief_Candy_7932 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The first one about less well off men really hits hard. I grew up working class, but managed to go to uni and get a good job. All the working class men I grew up are struggling and treated like shit.

[–]rahsoft -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

samaritans are a joke

it is well known that they are not interested in supporting men( even I can see they have been forced to include men). their own "volunteers" carry their own bias which should have been removed years ago.

if they had any brains then they could have asked MIND who would explained the suicide factors for middle age men.. because they have to do an assessment of their clients every time they go in for counselling( the non exclusive list of factors include abuse, family courts, marital breakdown with its accompanying abuse, false allegations, societal denigration of men etc)

or they could have ask the welsh assembly who did a report into the factors affecting men such as the ignorance and indifference from support organisations, the bias from the police and the judiciary.

they could even try looking at why the organisation SHELTER has become so biased in favour of women despite men being the overwhelming majority of homeless. The answer is that they employed polly neate former head of women aids to run shelter and so you can guess the bias that came with her..

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many of these organisations( including multiple charities) are not fit for purpose since they have grown stale , outdated in their views and bias and become politicised in their quest for more funding, and "jobs" for people at the top of the organisation who couldnt perform or survive in the private sector

[–]boringcarpets[S] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

samaritans are a joke

I used to volunteer for them

it is well known that they are not interested in supporting men

That's not true as far as I know, it's certainly not a policy. It's also pretty difficult to have that stance given the number of calls and contacts from boys and men

their own "volunteers" carry their own bias

In a way... I used to volunteer

I take it you run a better charity?

[–]rahsoft -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I take it you run a better charity?

try mankind

try MIND

much better with their attitude towards men

It's also pretty difficult to have that stance given the number of calls and contacts from boys and men

which means nothing when men have called about dv and have been treated as a perp. DV support line have received plenty of calls from men and boys, but have been mistreated and turned away by them, so plenty of calls means nothing.. when it takes the welsh assembly to produce a report and point out the obvious, Samaritans should have listened...

do you run the Samaritans organisational policy?? no you don't, you're just a former volunteer

how about you cast a critical eye over their own bias in the linked article.. but then you are the OP , so no wonder you are bias.

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