question i have

mikesteane · 2020-12-17T08:52:20+00:00

Feminism is a movement which claims to be about equality. But, by assuming that men are systematically favoured, this push for equality is transformed into a push for ever greater female privilege.

When challenged on the view that women are oppressed, the case is so weak that they frequently fall back on arguments from historical oppression. Once again, this comes down to an assumed interpretation of history.

Furthermore, the creed, for that is what it is, also presumes female moral superiority and, of necessity, maligns men. Despite feminists who posture as being reasonable people pushing for equality, it is clear that the movement is an ideology built on a whole set of lies (patriarchy, the wage gap and historical oppression for example.)

Feminism is not a belief system that can be debated because its assumptions will not be questioned. It is a dangerous and foolish ideology which harms everyone, ordinary women and its own followers included.

NoFuryLikeKristine · 2020-12-17T11:14:10+00:00

Feminism is one of those ideologies that instills a victim mentality in people, which is very harmful. It takes people's distorted thinking and makes it more extreme, which is what Cognitive Behavioral therapy aims to undo. Since it has infiltrated higher education and social studies, feminist/progressive beliefs are considered the authority, so anyone who questions it are considered uneducated or uninformed. They speak all the nice sounding words but their actions are harmful. They're hypocrites who are full of hate. It's like a mental virus that wants to stay alive, but it's not good for people.

EmirikolWoker · 2020-12-17T08:47:48+00:00

One day I'm going to get tired of copy-pasting this:

The foundational principals of all flavours of feminism are inherrently anti-male when you examine what needs to be true for them to accurately describe reality. Feminists can claim that it's "just about equality", but it's equality based on bigotted assumptions, presuming psychopathy on the part of men as a class.

Egalitarian values, and mens rights advocacy in particular, is innately antifeminist.

bufedad · 2020-12-17T14:34:01+00:00

Feminists, in their bigoted view of equality, have done the following:

Created a domestic violence framework that explicitly claimed men could not be victims
Pushed that domestic violence framework (Duluth Model) onto police forces requiring male victims be arrested when they report their abusers
Pressured the CDC to exclude male rape victims of female rapists from rape statistics (Stats on that to follow)
At the largest feminist rally in the world, held up a keynote speaker who had been convicted of kidnapped a man, tortured him for weeks (to include shoving a redhot poker up his ass), and then murdered him. [If a male MRA speaker had ever been convicted of hitting a woman, it would be an example of how much MRA's hate women... this? This should be evident how much feminists hate men.
Pushed to remove men's due process rights
Pushed to extend the gender sentencing gap (already six times larger than the racial sentencing gap).
Established women as default custody during divorce (late 1800's)
Fought to keep women as the default for child custody (1990's-present)

The latest NISVS State Report shows that in the previous 12 months:

1.2% of women were raped
0.2% of men were raped (penetrated)
1.5% of men were forced to have non-consensual sex against their will (not considered rape thanks to the feminist academics that helped the CDC establish their reporting categories)
1.175% of men were forced to have non-consensual sex against their will BY WOMEN
1.2% of women were raped

Remember, rape is a gendered issue that men do to women. Hardly any men are raped. Isn't it great the problems you can solve just by changing definitions? If you don't define it as rape, you never have to worry about dealing with the rape of men....

There's a reason we're anti-feminist, and that reason is 100% the actions of feminists.

ksaarthak · 2020-12-17T14:33:08+00:00

Okay, fair question. I am replying to your question before reading other people's comment on this question so sorry for things that may seem repeated in my answer.

So, I actually don't hate feminism per say. It is just an Ideology that says that everyone should be treated equally which seems pretty cool. But the way it is being practiced- that I hate.Instead of saying-"we fight against violence done on other people", they use "women".Instead of listening to problems that are faced by everyone in the society, they only talk about women (and LGBT community also) but they don't listen to the problems that men face in the society.They say that the society is "totally a patriarchy" but they conveniently forget that it is in this patriarchy only, their lives have more value than our lives.That is what I hate about how it is practiced, but I would say this- I also hate that such a good ideology is being presented by the term "Feminism" which seems downright biased towards the females.

About the 'whole value of life thing'- When a ship is sinking or people are being evacuated, they say "Women and children first". I get the part about children, but WOMEN?????!!!!!! That angers me. When I saw the Titanic for the first time, at the part where everyone are evacuating when the ship was sinking, I thought- "What if my own family was in such a situation? My father and I would have to separate from my mom and sister because our lives don't have the same values as their." That thought eventually brought me down this path...I discovered about feminism, realized how much crap is there in it and became against these people.

That is all I have to say.

AndyBrown65 · 2020-12-17T14:18:24+00:00

Feminism is hate speech

OkraGarden · 2020-12-17T13:45:34+00:00

Feminism has built a society where marriage and motherhood are demonized. A few feminists pay lip service to respecting wives and mothers but most are openly hostile to them and their life choices. The powerful career woman who has no family ties (if she has a man or a child in her life at all, it's just for fun and she makes it clear she does not truly need them) is held up as the ideal. Regular women are seen as mombies who are wasting their potential, or worse - actively oppressing other women by choosing to get married, raise kids, or become homemakers because that strengthens "the patriarchy." There's power in numbers and every woman who won't join them is a threat, and they treat us that way.

Nearly every social change pushed by feminism is based around punishing married mothers to support career women. Programs like "free" daycare just take tax dollars out of the pockets of men and their stay-at-home wives so feminists can continue their careers at other women's expense. Abolishing the family wage made employers shift salaries away from families and put it into the hands of career girls who were too timid to negotiate with their employers themselves. Altering the education system to benefit girls over boys will make life harder for those future men and their families, because women will hold the best degrees and the best jobs.

I'm angry for the millions of women who now have to work low-paid jobs in retail, fast food, house keeping, etc. because feminism made homemaking socially unacceptable and financially difficult. The middle management career girl feminist has no clue that her "independent" lifestyle is built on the backs of other women who clean her house, raise her kids, cook her takeaway dinners, and sew her work clothes in sweatshops for dollars a day instead of being able to stay home with their kids. I'm done with feminists making my life harder then demanding I thank them for it.

I support men's rights to protect men and boys, and I oppose feminism to protect myself and other families.

ObviousObservationz · 2020-12-17T12:51:08+00:00

Feminism has done so much for women in the last 30 years and continues to help them in areas that women are still lagging.

Check out these amazing feminist charities that are working to help women that are struggling a around the globe.

https://www.humanrightscareers.com/magazine/feminist-organizations/

I see no reason to fight against organizations like this.

However many women feel like mens issues should be ignored until women's issues are rectified. These are not feminists. These are misguided women that have been caught up in the stupid idea that there is a gender war going on.

The extremists MRAs and the extremist feminists do not get to define a movement.

95 percent of people in both groups just want all people to be lifted up in the many areas that gender is imbalanced.

Im for mens rights and I'm for feminism. I don't feel the need to choose a side just because the echo chamber mentality in both groups tries to demonize the other side.

Title	question i have
Author	matheus-wolters
Upvotes	8
Comments	24
Date	December 17, 2020 8:44 AM UTC (5 years ago)
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