So so sad.

ChefSqueaky · 2018-12-29T21:30:28+00:00

I can't speak for other jurisdictions, but California's safe haven law applies to 'parent or legal guardian'.

formerlydeaddd · 2018-12-30T00:45:30+00:00

wait, from what I've heard, a woman cannot utilize the safe haven drop off law if the paternal parent is willing to raise the child alone?

problematic_coagulum · 2018-12-30T03:37:00+00:00

Alexa play despacito.

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HerCrimson213 · 2018-12-30T06:14:23+00:00

To be honest, seeing both sides of the argument it’s difficult not to be caught in a logical fallacy about either side. There is a hell of a lot of human emotion involved even prior to considering the life created at the end of pregnancy.

I have seen the effects of divorce and read on illegal paternity testing in France, leading to an assumption of the general public financing a government sponsored program for youth unclaimed by their biological parents is most likely the outcome of situations involving unwanted pregnancies. This seems like a difficult jump from teen pregnancy to unplanned pregnancy to infidelity. All of which involve very complicated social and intimate encounters that can murk what law would demand be clear waters.

Speaking on men’s rights in general, I have seen it bestowed in both the men’s and women’s side. I would end that sentence with equally, but I have seen the vindictive nature of both. There seems to be an imbalance of justice in favor of the best actor, rather than the interests of the child to be born. Men’s rights to actively participate in their children’s lives suffer based on this premise. Whether the man seeks custody, or to relieve themselves of a financial burden and wins seems to result in a negative image, even in the eyes of their children. Parents playing the blame game with their estranged spouses causes psychological impacts on the perception of their biological parents that is cemented in the growth during the years of trial and fighting between.

There is no true one fits all answer to any one given situation in both pregnancy and custody arguments. And as such, each case must be reviewed individually. An argument can be made to educate youth in their teens about these realities. But it can also be argued that introducing these topics would also be detrimental to their perception of their own lives or environment.

The harsh reality is that males accept the majority of responsibility in many cases and are dismissed irrevocably as the responsible party financially. This is in large part due to the statistically backed sexual dynamic of male to female relationships. Fighting nature is simply difficult, in a fashion that civilized society has yet to accomplish mastery of. The massive weight of allegations against or for men leads to an endless debate of responsibility.

LordGayoftheSevenDic · 2018-12-30T01:51:00+00:00

But they’re so OPRESSED!

AkariSarzul · 2018-12-30T03:14:36+00:00

How do you possibly solve the issue of abortion rights for men? I can't genuinely think of a way of enforcing that without horrible disregard for the woman's body.

goodmod · 2018-12-30T03:44:17+00:00

This post has been removed because the title does not say enough about its subject. This forces people to click and read before they can decide whether they are interested. It also makes searching impossible.

If everyone did this, the subreddit would become unusable.

So please don't do it in future. Take the time to describe your link, and save the time of hundreds of other people.

When making a title, it's best to assume the reader doesn't know what you're talking about - but don't go overboard with every detail. Then check if there are any words you can cut out without losing any important information.

Please post this again, with a better title.

Title	So so sad.
Author	Baby-Leigh-Bear
Upvotes	234
Comments	20
Date	December 29, 2018 9:24 PM UTC (7 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/aap6e3/so_so_sad/
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