Something to Keep in Mind

oneiorosgrip · 2013-09-30T11:33:45+00:00

This is both an inaccurate, oversimplified assessment of feminists, and an inaccurate, oversimplified response to the way MRAs respond to feminist jurisprudence, feminist organizations, and feminist activists.

All mainstream, established feminist groups are the same. Feminists who make the "not all feminists are like that" argument try to use examples of fringe groups that don't do anything impacting as a way to legitimize the movement after being told about all of the hateful, bigoted activity the movement has engaged in over the last century.
Trying to legitimize a movement that one has learned is responsible for deliberately creating oppressive conditions for half of the human race isn't a benign behavior. If you learned that the active, effective part of a movement you were involved with tried to define heinous crimes to exclude female victims and male perpetrators so they could exploit proxy victim status for money and power, and use dehumanization tactics to control women, would you continue to associate yourself with that movement? Would you think that movement would be an effective vehicle for advocacy for men's rights? Why should feminists think that a movement which does the same, but with the sexes reversed, should in any way be acceptable?

There is nothing wrong with antifeminism. There is a great deal wrong with trying to silence discussion because it makes you uncomfortable.

Sasha_ · 2013-09-30T12:35:50+00:00

u/oneiorosgrip somes it up best in her comment, but I would simply add that feminists - ALL feminists, I have never come across an exception - either campaign against a child's rights to have an equal relationship with her or her father, or seem completely uncaring about the subject.

Further, they actively campaign against recognition, services or support for male victims of domestic abuse and violence.

Finally they promote the myth that women are, or have been, oppressed by men, in the process attributing to men some sort of 'original sin' or guilt.

On those positions alone, I have no hesitation in characterising feminism as a hate ideology, and feminists as hateful bigots.

Some of them may be unwitting agents admittedly, but it's their own responsibility to learn more about the ideology they espouse.

rightsbot · 2013-09-30T03:30:17+00:00

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M4Strings · 2013-09-30T04:25:07+00:00

Never once on this sub have I seen MRAs refer to feminists as inhuman or demonize them. I could have missed it, but all I've seen has been people pointing out the evils of feminist dogma and the actions of feminists that try to shut down MRA voices and events, sometimes doing so in a violent manner. They demonize men and our sexuality at every turn, trying to portray us as evil, demons, unfeeling, and natural born rapists, so yes, there will be backlash to that, but calling a moron a moron is hardly demonizing them.

Title	Something to Keep in Mind
Author	boradin
Upvotes	2
Comments	4
Date	September 30, 2013 3:28 AM UTC (12 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
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