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There are five countries where women commit more suicides than men: China (9/7 per 100 000), Bangladesh (9/7), Indonesia (5/4), Iraq (2/1), and Pakistan (9.6/9.1). Among the widest suicide gaps are in Poland (4/31), Russia (6/35), Belarus (6/33), Hungary (7/32), and Latvia (4/31).

accidental_me

April 22, 2016
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_suicide_rate
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Title There are five countries where women commit more suicides than men: China (9/7 per 100 000), Bangladesh (9/7), Indonesia (5/4), Iraq (2/1), and Pakistan (9.6/9.1). Among the widest suicide gaps are in Poland (4/31), Russia (6/35), Belarus (6/33), Hungary (7/32), and Latvia (4/31).
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Date April 22, 2016 3:11 PM UTC
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[–]omegaphallic 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

In Bangladesh, women have the vote and seat reserved for them in Parliament, Pakistan has had a female leader, many women in China are thriving in business, especially Hong Kong, Iraqi woman had been making progress once, before Gulf War 1, before the West turned it into a glorified crator, but women do have the vote in a Iraq.

Indonesian women do have the vote, but they need to be educated and own property, same as men I believe.

[–]cablebent1988 -1 points0 points1 point 10 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Just to state the obvious; most of these countries are places where women are actually oppressed in just about every way. Women are treated as objects, they are beaten for speaking against a man, they get no property when they leave a husband (for whatever reason), they can't own property, most can't even drive or vote.

These are places where actual oppression exists where modern feminists fail to assist or raise awareness for because they are drawing attention to their not being able to find clothes for plus sized women - that is, they live in a place where food is so abundant the women are over fed. Where women draw media attention to their being "bullied" online for posting bullshit and cry when someone has a differing opinion.

If modern feminism really wanted to make things better for ALL women, they would focus on actually oppression and the betterment of women in these countries, rather than crying about Kesha's manager. That is a feminism I think we could all stand behind.

[–]dungone 4 points5 points6 points 10 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

No, that's not obvious at all. Let's question it. Are women really "oppressed" in China? Do they have fewer rights than men? I don't believe so. In most of these countries, the suicide rate is driven by very poor rural populations in the midst of rapid urbanization. It's close to a natural disaster for these communities and women just don't cope as well for fairly obvious reasons. And in some of the countries (Iraq, Afghanistan), the greater issue may be the hundreds of thousands of men who had already been killed in decades-long wars. This will of course mask a lot of the suicide problem.

[–]cablebent1988 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link

*most of these countries, not all of them. Just like most people will take a minute to read what is being said while some won't bother reading what I actually wrote but instead will just jump to conclusions.

Edit: let's talk about China which, until recently, had a one child per family policy and MANY girls were either aborted or abandoned at orphanages. Girls were literally not wanted. What rights do these girls have? MOST won't get adopted and will not get good schooling and will work very low level jobs forever. We could also talk about the Apple factories where many women work that have suicide nets to catch the workers who jump out of the Windows from the horrible work environment. All because they were deemed undesirable for an innate trait (being female).

This would be very distressful knowing you weren't what your parents wanted. China does have better opportunities and a better quality of life than many of the other countries mentioned in the article, but those feelings of being unwanted would, non the less, persist. So yes, even China has a way of oppression a whole population of people.

[–]dungone 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

You're really grasping at straws and misreading the entire situation. Aborted babies don't commit suicide. Don't paint everyone with a broad stroke, because obviously some couples wanted girls, whether it was their first child or if they were well-off enough to pay the fines for a second. The birth rate per woman is 1.66, which means that more than half of women have at least two. And the male to female ratio is 1.12, so it's nowhere near the dire situation you portray where all women live their lives feeling like unwanted babies. You must think Chinese parents are evil. The reality is that in spite of fewer female children, China still has more women left than men by the time they reach 65 years of age. Giving birth to more girls isn't going to make anything more fair or equal.

The whole reason why women were aborting females is because they fully expected their kids to take care of them financially into old age. This is especially true for women, who more than anyone else rely on men to support their needs. It shouldn't surprise you, then, to find out that when their children stop sending money back to their parents from their slave-wage jobs at the Apple factory, it's going to have the greatest effect on women, especially female heads of household. It's also got to suck, although not as badly for the men, that a lot of these mothers will never see their sons married, due to the shortage of women. But young women, themselves don't feel unwanted; they are highly sought after.

[–]mailmanglasgow 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Seems like the suicide gap is widest in traditional, non-feminist countries. Why is this?

[–]accidental_me[S] 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Finland is supposed to be among the most equal countries and yet here the gap was among the widest just about 20 years ago. It's rather wide even today, 7/22. Sweden 7/17.

East Europeish?

Feminism hardly has anything to do with the gap. But is could part of some kind of a post-modernization that "softens" the role expectations. Being a good man is not necessarily a question of life and death, weakness is allowed.

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