UK: children commit 18 rapes a DAY: Shock official figures reveal 15,000 rapes and sex attacks by under-18s in 2022 OP: Feminist government wants to control boys.

bottleblank · 2024-01-10T11:15:59+00:00

I've been quite vocal about certain types of men and boys being very concerned about behaviour relating to relationships and sex. Those who don't wish to break rules, those who don't wish to make their crushes or first loves or early experience partners uncomfortable, those who very much took to heart that idea that you should never do anything which might hurt another.

Especially these days where anything and everything can and, at some point, probably will be considered offensive or predatory or criminally abusive. So this kind of discussion really sets off alarm bells for me. I know that good men get left behind in life due to these black and white, ideologically driven attitudes.

Many have grown up being too hesitant to do anything or say anything which might (even should), in other people's lives, result in healthy development and relationships. I think this has always been somewhat true, I know I was very anxious about these things as a boy/young child, some 20+ years ago, because I didn't know the boundaries and I couldn't bring myself to potentially violate them. Nobody showed me what was right, only what was wrong. So I did nothing. I said nothing. I've never had a relationship as a result and it's causing me significant distress as an adult.

To get to the point:

Of course I agree that actual crimes, violent or coercive instances of sexual assault or rape, need to be dealt with, I would never suggest that they shouldn't. But if we're (as a society, as a culture) going to go down this rabbit hole as blindly as I fear may happen and start further threatening young men or boys who attempt to learn how normal human sexual interaction works, there WILL be more incels, there WILL be more men who experience anxiety, there WILL be more men who spend their lives clueless, scared, and increasingly frustrated.

Broken men, because this lack of relationships and intimacy can have social and mental health impacts which can spread far beyond simply "not getting your dick wet". Confidence issues, communication issues, social issues, depression, anxiety, these things can infect other areas of life, like independence, housing, and employment. They can make it difficult to even remain alive.

Not only sidelining and confusing men into inaction and failed development but encouraging and making it incredibly easy for young women to misconstrue or recontextualise in their mind legitimate sexual acts as criminally obscene, offensive, and abusive crimes, so that if any young man does attempt to navigate it he may be at risk of a very stern "correction" away from trying in the future. Even if he did everything "right". Worse than simply being scared away; potential social exclusion, being placed on a list, being given a criminal record. Simply for trying to navigate the increasingly hostile waters of learning how to form intimate relationships.

If there is a legitimate growing problem of actual harmful abuse, that needs to be taken seriously. But it must be done with enough tact and nuance to avoid causing further and widespread damage to young men's development, which is something I absolutely do not expect to be forthcoming.

The current prevailing feminist and social movement attitudes which disregard any care for collateral damage and which justify any measure, to any extent, so that "something is done", do not adequately consider potentially serious side-effects now or down the line. We are in an era where there is such ever-present, forceful, vague, and unrealistic discussion about what men are, what straight sexuality looks like, who has responsibility, and the threat of punishment for any vague misdemeanour or accidental misreading of a situation. This is dangerous.

We cannot simply amp up the current messaging and hope that those who are genuinely criminally abusive will finally get the message. How much louder could they even be? Clearly, if those messages had been working, these figures would not be as high as they are, would they?

The bigoted, accusatory, puritanical, anti-male-sexuality approach is simply breaking young men who don't - and, as a result, may never - understand how to engage in essential relationships in healthy ways. That, as far as I'm concerned, is all they're doing. It's not even collateral damage, the claimed primary purpose is not being achieved.

The harder those messages are sent, the less clear that the boundaries on appropriate personal, social, sexual development are, the more men will grow up stunted. This is dangerous, both to those men as individuals and to society (both on social cohesion and potential crime levels). The last thing we need right now is to scare the shit out of all of the young boys and men who actually care about forming healthy, safe, comfortable relationships, simply because learning how to have these relationships involves intimate exploration, which can already be uncomfortable or confusing for young people.

Furthermore, preventing young men from learning appropriately may lead to increased sex crime levels in the future as the less able to cope take to less healthy methods of learning or relieving sexual frustration in order to ease the pain and distress of being unable to satisfy those human needs any other way. This includes the violent pornography which is already being blamed. If they do not have the opportunity to learn in a safe and healthy way, which they are not being provided, they will - as it is a natural drive which is present in any typical healthy man - seek out other sources of satisfaction. It is a natural curiosity. That is the purpose of puberty. We are a social and sexual species and that is programmed into every cell in every man and woman. To deny that would be absolute insanity.

3DFutureman7 · 2024-01-10T16:55:39+00:00

I'm from the UK, its amazing children were allowed smart phones with open access to hard core porn. I grew up a teen in mid 90s so we had the last bit of protection before that was kicked away. I feel lucky now as a grown man. OFC we all remember our younger selves hated the censorship at the time. The best thing we could get was channel 4 Eurotrash lol

We used to have depravity and derangement laws in the UK. This has messed up a whole generation of children.

They could have blocked it. Why didn't they?

Cuntplainer · 2024-01-10T22:44:58+00:00

How many are committed by immigrants?

...or are we not allowed to ask that question?

Beautiful_Me1008 · 2024-01-10T14:02:33+00:00

this is very shocking

Asher-D · 2024-01-11T00:56:28+00:00

Age of consent in the UK is 16, so do they mean 16 and 17 year olds? Those are the only group of under 18s even capable of performing that crime because again consent starts at 16 and under that, they were the ones who were violated according to consent laws, but can one be SAed and SA at the same time (because the UK is a bunch of idiots and only classifies it as rape if the perpetrator penetrates or the victims was penetrated)? Or do consent laws not apply to boys? I have so many questions.

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