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When something is defined as an offense just because someone else feels it is

thingsarebad

August 9, 2011

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http://falserapesociety.blogspot.com/2011/08/when-something-is-defined-as-offense.html

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Title	When something is defined as an offense just because someone else feels it is
Author	thingsarebad
Upvotes	6
Comments	28
Date	August 9, 2011 8:10 PM UTC (15 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/jdtyu/when_something_is_defined_as_an_offense_just/
Archive Link	https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/when-something-is-defined-as-an-offense-just.1036094 https://theredarchive.com/post/1036094

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[–]Demonspawn 1 point2 points3 points 15 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link

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[–]Demonspawn -1 points0 points1 point 15 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

So now what?

So now it's actual harassment that the administration can do something about rather than having the expectation that everyone can read everyone's mind and automatically know what they don't like...

... duh?

Are you saying you'd be fine with this policy if it required that the harasser be asked to stop before involving the administration?

I still think this policy has an absurd definition of what "harassment" is and really needs to be taken to task over it (But Mrs. X didn't give me an A! That makes me feel uncomfortable! She's harassing me!!!), but my main point has been it can't be harassment unless the person has been asked to stop.

Once we get past that initial point, we can start discussing how much this idea that "everyone has a right not to ever be made uncomfortable in any means" is also stupid, self-destructive (as a culture), and is impossible to enforce.

Besides. It makes me uncomfortable that you are made uncomfortable by what I did. So now we are harassing each other equally.

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But the thing is, it's not a criminal code. It's a passage from a school handbook, not a state's book of laws. It'd be impossible, and impractical, for them to write down every single action that can be considered harassment. It's basically just saying, "If you feel harassed, report it to us, then we'll try to resolve the issue as best we can".

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[–]ghebert001 1 point2 points3 points 15 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Harassment should be based on the act itself, not how the act made the person feel. If I blow my nose loudly and make someone "feel uncomfortable" they should not have the right to complain about my loud nose blowing because the act in and of itself is not harassment.

Harassment should be defined by specific acts or behaviours...which usually make the person who the acts behaviours are targeted at feel uncomfortable. What you're suggesting is that any act or behaviour that makes another person feel uncomfortable should be defined as harassment which is wrong because that just opens up the door for anyone who is chronically offended at everything to file harassment complaints by the minute. Most workplaces would have to open up new departments because HR wouldn't be able to keep up with all the complaints.

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