I love this place so far, and have been reading the links provided in the sidebar almost nonstop lately. Patterns that I've been aware of in society for some time now, but have been unable to define or fit together with other pieces of the puzzle, are now much clearer. "The Misandry Bubble", in particular, is an incredibly well put together article that fits together all of the pieces of the puzzle and gives you a very sharp birds-eye view of the realities that men face today. There are a few things here and there that are a little hyperbolic and a few claims made that don't have any factual sources to cite, but the huge bulk of information I've seen on the sidebar links seems pretty legit so far.

However, the deeper I go, the one thing that's really making me cringe is how many people I see around here mainly concerned with "game". It seems almost childish at times, and it seems to detract from the legitimacy of the men's rights movement. First of all, calling it "game" is silly; we're not fucking 90's teenagers getting our lingo from some Too $hort album. And the fact that many people are taking their cues from some actor named "Mystery" that had that VH1 show is one of the most laughable things I've come across. Look, I'm sure the guy gets a lot of girls, and good for him, but I'm failing to see why this stuff is being so heavily associated with the movement.

On a related note, I read the following quote in an article that is very critical of this sub:

"Women are, by nature, manipulative, attention-seeking, inconsistent, emotional, and hypergamous. Accept this truth. Once you do, you can game women for what they are ... not what you want them to be."

Now, I pretty much agree with the first sentence. The problem I have here is that this is still no reason "game" a person. The insinuation in this quote is that men are somehow more noble, because while we do have a genetic predisposition to polygamy, we don't have the female's genetic predisposition to hypergamy. The author implies that this morally frees him up to "game" people any way he sees fit. While it's completely his right to do so, it should be done without the implication of some kind of moral superiority.

Women are products of their ancestral evolution, yes, but so are men. Our natural, evolutionary instincts do not make us any more or less noble than a female. We are what we are. Understand it, but don't use it to try to paint yourself as being somehow righteous.

Knowledge is a heavy thing. A hypergamous female can be forgiven for not being aware of her evolutionary history and allowing her baser instincts to make her decisions for her. Same with a male who lets his instincts make his decisions. However, if you understand the forces of your evolutionary instincts and how they pull you in different directions, it could be argued that you have more of a responsibility to try to do right by people and not be a negative force in their lives. This is the issue I have with "game". We should be using our knowledge to make us better as individuals and as a species, not as some moral excuse for trying to sleep with as many women as possible.

Anyway, those are just some of the thoughts I have so far here. Please jump in the conversation and let me know what you think. Let's keep it civil, please :)