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Advice required ;"cheated "on girlfriend / attachment issues /oneitis

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Title Advice required ;"cheated "on girlfriend / attachment issues /oneitis
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Date January 19, 2015 5:29 AM UTC
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[–]1jb_trp17 points18 points19 points 11 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

Look kid, you need to next her. She sounds young, manipulative, and bitchy. I'm sure she is really attractive, but you're wasting time and energy on a losing cause. She is not LTR material.

If you want her back as a plate, go no contract, lift weights, and fuck 10 other girls. You'll be instantly more attractive to her. The more you try for her, the more beta you'll appear. You've already given her all the balance of power.

You know what you need to do. Now do it.

[–]1Revo_Luzione2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

JB's comment really says it all about the best strategy moving forward. Onward, son, don't look back except to learn from your mistakes.

That is to say, the only thing I would add would be to do a post-mortem on your game with her. You failed some critical shit tests. When she asked you the last time you had sex, your response in some manner conveyed guilt, shame, or someother weakness. Consider your response in that moment.

Further, you had another chance after that, possibly, but lost frame, when she friend-zoned. Had you maintained frame in that moment by holding strong boundaries, vocal tone, posture, you might have been able to keep her attraction.

Edited for clarity.

[–]_JRTB 2 points2 points2 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Completely wrong. She asked over text , and I had no shame whatsoever. I've been open to her from the start about the other two ( though she thinks it's more 4-5)

Again, occurred over phone and text. Held frame and fold her I was not the slightest bit interested in friendship. As I said, I'd be amazed if then" player friendzone " thing is more than a hamstering

In addition , the post clearly states and emphasises that attraction was never ever an issue .

Comfort shit tests were an issue from start to finish

[–]1Revo_Luzione0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago* [recovered] (3 children) | Copy Link

Gotcha. Your FR isn't clear--you wrote things like "she asks" and " I tell" without stating they are over text. Much more clear now.

Secondly, if you're clear you have enough attraction, then the so-called "comfort" shit test isn't a shit test at all, it's a error in calibration on your part. You misread her need for emotional connection & comfort as a shit test. Shit tests occur when a woman is unsure of a man's true SMV, which she attempts to ascertain through the shit test as a tool. The need for comfort is different, it comes after strong SMV is clearly signalled, and now she looks for signs of emotional investment. Long story short, you may have overgamed her.

Your alpha game is strong, (maybe too strong in this case), but despite plenty of caddish charisma, you haven't been able to create what Krauser calls "deep conversion," probably because you don't have enough access into your own emotions, and/or you really didn't feel all that much for this girl, despite being strongly physically attracted to her.

Remember Heartiste's commandment #iX-Connect to her emotions. For a high SMV guy such as yourself, sometimes a little vulnerability, without becoming a supplicating beta, can go a long way.

[–]1Revo_Luzione0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Further, what is a "hamstering?" You used that term both in your FR and here. What is it, exactly? How does it apply here? Not trying to be harsh, but you may be misusing or sloppily using RP terminology, and in the process missing some critical feedback from this girl.

Hamstering typically is how we describe a rationalization post hoc, and typically describes prosexual behavior being excused on the grounds of "it just happened." "Hamstering" about being hurt isn't a useful heuristic, it doesn't accurately reflect behavioral choices on her part.

She was hurt, full stop, because she was into you & she didn't feel a reasonable reflection of investment (notice I said investment, not commitment) from yourself.

[–]_JRTB1 point 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Feel that " I still wanna be there for you " but " I'm not sure whether I wanna put you in the ' he's hurt me friendzone " is her " hamstering "continued attraction/ desire to talk to me ( she texted me first 70+ times vs less than 10) despite her knowing that she's been hurt.

Don't worry about being harsh, absolutely appreciate honest , blunt & valuable feedback.

The situation was blowing over until I overdid the dickishness at the worst possible time . Is it reasonable to think shel'll text again after I've broken things off with her ( said I was very sorry things didn't work out etc etc )

[–]_JRTB1 point 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Tried to dial in vulnerablility after a while through telling her about my Mothers illness etc , not sure I did the greatest of jobs with too much push and not enough pull.

Also tried to just carry on as usual and talk to her after this situation happened I.E let it blow over ( which was working ) but lost frame a couple of times and defo overgamed at one point. Realistically, the cut all contact option was/is the best shot after that .

Thanks for your advice

[–]_JRTB1 point 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Haha she knows I've been seeing the other two girls from the start to the point we agreed upon. Want her to myself, and me giving her the marching orders doesn't give her the balance of power. I am beyond certain I am very attractive to her.

Gonna sit here and see if she comes running back

[–]King2realz7 points8 points9 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

You've only been with 3 girls.. ofcourse you'd rather be with her.

Don't be a pussy, you what to do. This is some pathetic scarcity you need to slap yourself out of.

[–]_JRTB 0 points0 points0 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

three girls in the three months I've even had access to girls lol . You are right . Gonna sit here and wait for her to come running back . If she doesn't , a cute 17 year old is sending me nudes & a slutty 20 year old is DTF, both off tinder. I'm sure I'll get over it hahs

The post was more about getting back pissed off ex's / getting away with caddish behaviour if I'm honest.

[–]csehszlovakze1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

Go for these now, your oneitis might not even care anymore, and when you realize that, these chicks may be gone too. Don't waste your time on her.

[–]AssedM 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

She is a dream killer. That term should be very familiar with you if you are at the athletic level you say you are.

[–]asd1100 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (24 children) | Copy Link

/r/asktrp

second year student but fucked 8 guys ( red flag for me)

you think?

she texts first everyday

was that really negesary?

She is openly jealous of other plates and is possessive.

because she is not a FWB, she is in a relationship with you.

We agreed not to see anyone else in early December

that "we" is delusional.

she gets upset, thinking that this was after the agreement ; it wasn't .

and that is enough, that was the last oportunity to handle it like a man. You should have called her a cunt and walk out on her.

Is that the most effective way to get her back ? We've had arguments / she's been dropped as a plate before and texted me apologetically the next day . A heartiste post says this is.

Put a ring on it. That is why she trows these tantrums, to break frame and have you come back weaker and weaker each time.(this may not be to get the marriage, she might just want to break you out of ego)

s there something else potentially going on besides her hamstering being hurt ?

no, you are the one hamstering all that bullshit. This is just about her: she was really into you and then one day she smelled beta blood. That is a horrifiying repulsive feeling, to find out you submited to a weakling. So she pulls the "change for me" card, a classic, you should have trown it out instantly like you would have done in the begining. But you fall, you fall hard. You even self impose celibacy on yourself. Now she doesn't only feel angry for lying but she feels confused. Where is her alpha, she has you, but are you an alpha, have you ever been one? Is she really that great that she got to score a player? If she is why would she settle? she can find a guaranteed alpha.

She was bidding for a mona lisa and after she won the bid, you told her she won a picture of the mona lisa. Can you get why that might make her angry?

but I'd rather be with her than bang the usual tinder skanks I get ( can't go out to meet girls ATM )

false dichotomy. You can't have her. You are simply to invested in her to be able to manage a relationship with her. You really don't get it do you? She doesn't care about you, she cared about the tingles, you the player where giving her when she got a text from the "skank fucker". You don't matter for a woman at least not at a primal level. You are your status, your attitude your frame. Throw those away and you basically collapsed her fantasy her love story and her world.

[–]_JRTB 2 points2 points2 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

There's some truth in this , and a lot of bullshit.

Fully agree with the last paragraph.

She doesn't see me as anything other than alpha, I've been very very sure to keep it that way so far as to not include enough emotional intimacy, as you can clearly see from the original post .

I have now walked out on her, as it clearly says in the post.

If you seriously think a marriage is anything to do with this , you are frankly missing a few chromosomes .

That you think attraction has been lost when she was texting me pictures of her tits at random and telling me how she couldn't wait to fuck me the day before this came out, you're again ridiculous

If you think it's typical to string a girl along for months whilst knowing that she is one of many , without showing a bit of beta , you're either a wizard Harry, or full of shit.

Also, if you think she pushed me into a relationship, and it wasn't me who was completely unwilling to share a girl I am attached to/like with other guys, you're again jumping to ridiculous conclusions.

[–]asd1100 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago [recovered] (22 children) | Copy Link

She doesn't see me as anything other than alpha, I've been very very sure to keep it that way so far as to not include enough emotional intimacy, as you can clearly see from the original post .

That is just a part of it. You went celibate a whole month FOR HER. And then you bragged about it waiting for your reward. Sorry dude, but the alphy she loved would have never have done that.

I have now walked out on her, as it clearly says in the post.

out or frustration, not as a response to her tantrum

The marriage thing was a hyperbole, replace it with whatever level of commitment she wanted before from the guy she was in a relationship with but still fucked women on the side.

the day before this came out

hey, she's not a telepath, she still tough you had "it"

If you think it's typical to string a girl along for months whilst knowing that she is one of many , without showing a bit of beta , you're either a wizard Harry, or full of shit.

That it the thing boss, you didn't string her along, you had daily contact, that is a relationship. You must have missed the part where you only meet to hook up and even that at best should be twice a week.

and it wasn't me who was completely unwilling to share a girl I am attached to/like with other guys,

I fully agree, the fact that you became attached to her is totally your fault. But your loss of frame was a consequence of her subtle dread game. You did not break the balance(precarious as it might have been) out of the blue, randomly.

[–]_JRTB 1 points1 points1 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

-Rest of my plates went home from uni , told her that . Never bragged or expected anything from it.

  • Completely wrong, out of response to her tantrum.

  • Please explain how the hell I lost frame aside from the beta backtracking after she found out ? It was me who suggested and wanted the relationship as much as her, and it is her who has consistently chased me. You have somehow come to the conclusion that wanting her for an ltr = losing frame, which is fucking ridiculous .

  • You also conflate that with a loss of attraction on her part ; trust me when I say that there was ample attraction remaining. I've been very very treat em mean keep em keen with her , and have been given attraction and attachment as a result .

Yes, the attraction was probably slightly less as a result of me dropping other plates ; that is not the issue, however.

[–]asd1100 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago [recovered] (20 children) | Copy Link

We agreed not to see anyone else in early December , until we saw each other again this month

Justify this. Tell me what the fuck this is, what was in your head. Please explain how you rationalized this beta ass behavior to yourself, because you apparently still think you did nothing wrong. Your ego is preventing you from seeing your actions for what they where; a huge loss of frame, a slip up. Did it ever occur to you that maybe you aren't all that special without your plates? At 19, having a couple of hotties is the difference between nerd and college superstar.

My view, to make it simple: there is a primal level and a cognitive level. You gave her what she wanted at a cognitive level but took aways what she had at a primal level.

[–]_JRTB 1 points1 points1 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Completely disagree

I wasn't gonna let her see other guys and I told her that straight. She knew about , whether these be cognitive or primal, my sporting achievements, my " harem ", my muscularity, my cocky-funny personality , my indifference, etc etc etc. There is more than enough attraction there , as evidenced by the fact she was telling me how much she likes me, wants to fuck me, sexts etc etc etc the day before this .

Furthermore, I told her that the plates were at university, which they were, I.E I couldn't fucking screw them over the Christmas period anyway !?!?!?

I admit the attraction went down a little, not to the extent that it is what caused this. If it was, would this be a lost cause ?

[–]asd1100 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago [recovered] (18 children) | Copy Link

We agreed not to see anyone else in early December

WHO THE FUCK SAYS: lets have a celibacy pact over the holydays.

as evidenced by the fact she was telling me how much she likes me, wants to fuck me, sexts etc etc etc the day before this .

Yes, women are specialists and understanding what they feel and you can always take their word on it.

If it was, would this be a lost cause ?

I don't know man, you were super alpha, up to that point. I don't know you and I was disappointed when I read that train wreck. I can't even imagine what she felt when she realised you were serious about your celibacy pact.

At this point if you really(really, really, really) want her, "put a ring on it", tell her she was a cunt for overreacting. Ask her if there was some underlying issue for it.(she might have fucked up and convinced herself it didn't count because reasons and you blew up her rationalisation with your good boy act) Tell her you want to be exclusive and you want to try this shit out.(if she obviously didn't fuck anyone over the break) and then kiss and make up.

But rationally, and you know this is true, you god game at 19, you got potential and you are a mover. This will be rocky at best. Move on, have fun, the world is filled with better pussy. Now you know you don't contact a plate on a daily basis. If you want some of that sweet gooey romance, date some women on the side(yes, this is beside your plates) until you find your perfect princess. (now those you can text daily and be silly with, because they are temps)

[–]_JRTB 1 points1 points1 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Thanks, but you've missed the point and see things in a far too binary alpha/beta combo .

Told her my plates were from a nearby uni ; they went home over the holidays

Again , completely disagree as she is now sending snapchats I.e running back.

[–]asd1100 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago [recovered] (16 children) | Copy Link

No, I see things in terms of maturity or neediness.

So you made no celibacy pact? You were free to fuck whatever stroked your fancy?

If you think getting naked pics is a apology, enjoy your relationship while it lasts, because it's all downhill from here. The community will be here after this shit blows over, to support your comeback.

[–]_JRTB 1 points1 points1 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

She texted to ask if I had fucked someone else already . Told her I still wanted to try monogamy with her but that I was gonna move onto having a harem again very quickly if not . We'll see what happens.

[–]asd11001 point 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

see! she is practically begging you to be "that guy"

Great reply, kinda long winded but you got it. The crucial point is "try". You're the player that is trying something new, this months monogamy, next month it may be sex swings

[–]_JRTB1 point 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

lool she said no , been hurt , what I did killed attraction for her / I never cared about her blah blah blah maybe hamstering less attraction relative to the start , did say that she is gonna chase someone else ( though she was still down to fuck me / was texting first everyday/clingy / possessive the day before this ) ( though she is slutty/loved asshole player me ), whatever, getting over her quickly !

Also told her that I'm reforming my harem and I've got a date with another girl from her uni ( who's more attractive ) at the bar at which she works lol , she responded by saying bullshit, sent her a tinder screenshot, she goes and looks up her details and says I'm downgrading ( I'm not lol ) . Already got a few solid plates on the way on tinder, one if whom is down for threesomes, another into bdsm, an 18 year old virgin etc etc

Booking holidays to Vegas and Dubai in summer , making solid gym progress ( already lift / am fit ) , in football cup final , revising for exams to do economics at a top 5/10 uni etc etc etc . If she doesn't come running back and have things the way they were at the start, knowingly being part of a harem ,I'll be amazed.

In short, fuck oneitis and getting into LTRs with sub-LTR material, life's great . Not gonna text a girl on the far-right of the asshole loving curve daily, nor am I gonna lower my alpha status in front of one again !

EDIT : She had a great personality and was very attractive but became extremely attached and was demanding of attention 24/7 . Also mild daddy issues. What was I thinking lol

[–]asd11001 point 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Also told her that I'm reforming my harem and I've got a date with another girl from her uni ( who's more attractive ) at the bar at which she works lol , she responded by saying bullshit, sent her a tinder screenshot, she goes and looks up her details and says I'm downgrading ( I'm not lol ) .

Why this? Control your damn emotions. Actually doing that would have been a move. This is just bullshit. Anything you do now will be perceived (rightly so) as reactionary to her bullshit.

Already got a few solid plates on the way on tinder, one if whom is down for threesomes, another into bdsm, an 18 year old virgin etc etc

Stop talking, don't you get that talk means nothing. Do you really not understand the difference between doing and bitching?

If she doesn't come running back and have things the way they were at the start, knowingly being part of a harem ,I'll be amazed.

dude, not in your state. I'll go soft on you as you're young but for fuck sake stop being a emotional sail, going wherever the wind blows.

Life is great dude. Don't waste it on a ego trip.

[–]_JRTB1 point 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

lol my emotions are v.much in control. Don't be soft on me .

Perhaps that gives the wrong impression, didnt go out of my way to tell her that , she insinuated / asked about it and I told her straight, though did add in the detail about the other girl from her uni to make her jealous ( did so in a plausibly deniable way , said that I'd prob bump into her)

Actively gaming them now ffs. Look at what Im doing with my life, think i know the distinction .

[–]asd11001 point 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Dude, I wasn't even in reality most of the time, when I was your age.

she insinuated / asked about it and I told her straight,

she initiated and you bit down hard. Don't reframe to protect your ego. You should not engage when you have nothing to win, can't win or are hurt. Don't be a idiot, fight only when negesary.

Then don't talk, seriously. Do them, this I will get my revenge by slaying as many sluty depraved women as possible sounds really defensive and weak. So she you dropped one, shit happens, you literally lost nothing. You really have no reason to be emotional about it, grab that ego and bitch slap it for being such a pussy. Get it used to failure, because that is the primary source of risk aversion.

[–]_JRTB1 point 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

lol so she's found out / seen that I've already been with other girls immediately after splitting up from her, and captained a team to winning a big football tournament , and now has invited me to hers on Tuesday " for me to fuck her and leave " .

She also says that " there's no attraction to me but that there doesn't need to be for sex ", and that " there's no-one else around " to fuck her that day, and she has a free house, and that " if I can make her cum as well as the next person it'll do for a one off " . This seems like not only massive bullshit to me, since she has barely had sex this uni year and can easily go without , but also a massive shit test to see if I still would !? Or potential hamstering desire to still fuck me ?

[–]asd1100-1 point 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

This seems like not only massive bullshit to me, since she has barely had sex this uni year and can easily go without

WHY DO YOU JUMP ON HER WORDS AS IF THEY MEAN SOMETHING?!?!

Her impulse: I want JRTB dick.

Her emotions: wait, what? How? but he not caveman level, how can he be over a tight piece of ass like me? am I not a tight piece of ass anymore? OMG, i'm getting old, OMG, i'm single? Shit, shit shit. Momma gotta get some.

Her rationalisation: "I'll pencil him in", whats the harm I+m a sexually liberated woman after all. There is nothing wrong with meeting up and catching up and if I get a good fucking in the process, great. He should be lucky I am this forgiving.

Her consciousness: At best I'll have him begging to come back, at worst I'll remember why I hate him so I can finally move on.

Her words: <your conversation>

Now, what level do you address?, does actually knowing the process make your actions easier or harder? Does it change anything? Do those levels actually matter for a woman that is hot and begging for your dick? Or for her subsequent emotions and future, positive rationalisations?

The facts: she wants your D, but doesn't want to loose face(either to her self or her cockblocking BFF).

Your objective: get her on the D and accept your alpha frame.(none of that eclusive, lovey dovey shit)

Note: you can get the sex, with lovey dovey, because at this point she is out of your frame, and you already fucked. She wants to get you on her terms ultimately, and she isn't proud enough to not bribe you with her pussy to win.(this is where a lot of players that don't really get game fail...they think sex is a victory, when it's just a bait)

This seems like not only massive bullshit to me, since she has barely had sex this uni year and can easily go without

irrelevant use of facts your honor!

but also a massive shit test to see if I still would !?

true, so what?

Or potential hamstering desire to still fuck me ?

also true, now you're fucked because you think like a man. Men are incapable of understanding how a gesture is both a positive and a negative thing at the same time, what in the world will you ever do?

[–]_JRTB1 point 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Haha beautiful.

One side-note, she says she wants a relationship with a new guy who she hasn't yet fucked , not sure if this is either true or pertinent .

[–]asd1100-1 point 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

unfortunetly it's pertinent for you, that is your problem.

you understand her saying shit to you and her feeling shit are 2 different things right?

She is saying: better put a ring on it. She may be feeling like it's time to find a sucker and stop dieting and just get fat. Does she really (emotionally need)want that? Would that make her happy?

So for the last time: stop giving a fuck about what a woman says. You had some understanding of the game, where did it go? If you can't keep your head in the game, fuck her, figuratively, take a knee, look in the mirror and realise you can't handle her bullshit. She got under your skin, she infected you. We all fail at one point or another, no shame in it. What is shameful is letting your ego fuck you over, not bailing at the right time and fucking your life because you are to proud to be honest with yourself and do the smart thing.

[–]_JRTB1 point 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Good god man.

So she's under the impression that I've fucked 5 or so girls in the past week, invites me over to fuck. I made a joke about there being other girls, she flips, tells me not to come, backs down , says we're not having sex though, I see this as a shit-test and come anyway.

Get there and she's very cold/off towards me. Attempts to tease/escalate go nowhere. She makes a few references to me fucking a lot of other girls.I eventually give up and later asked her about " the new guy she's chasing " , which I don't believe even exists. Asked her straight if she would have left me for him had I not have " cheated " and she says yeah. Feel gutted.

Basically sat and cuddled watching films till she said " she has nothing to say to me ", I told her I was leaving to go and fuck another girl, she didn't even care . Promptly go and fuck said girl.

[–]asd11001 point 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Good god man.

I really hope you are refering to your behavior.

So she's under the impression that I've fucked 5 or so girls in the past week, invites me over to fuck.

bullshit.

I made a joke about there being other girls, she flips, tells me not to come, backs down , says we're not having sex though, I see this as a shit-test and come anyway.

WHY ARE YOU PUSSYFOOTING AROUND HER ACCUSATIONS? Woman, it's my dick I stick it wherever I want. Do you want me to stick it in you or not, wither way we are DONE talking.

I see this as a shit-test and come anyway.

was it? she gave you grief and you still came around for the pussy.

Get there and she's very cold/off towards me.

because she saw you want the pussy despite her shit.

Attempts to tease/escalate go nowhere

oh no you don't, she saw a opening and it's her turn to skull fuck you.

Attempts to tease/escalate go nowhere. She makes a few references to me fucking a lot of other girls.

at this point, did you forget you had a brain or did you still think the night can go somewhere pleasent?

I told her I was leaving to go and fuck another girl, she didn't even care

she left you broke, emotionally distressed and with a shattered ego...she fucked you good, why the fuck would she even care what you do with that freshly fucked mind of yours afterwards?

[–]_JRTB1 point 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Her exact words were " I want you to fuck me and leave " last weekend , switched into the " we're not having sex " shit. She 100% sees me as a player/very high SMV, have shown her a bit much inner beta though. I think she thought that I thought she was just playing hard to get/ that I thought I was still getting laid .

Is she just fucking mental ( baring in mind slutty past/ very quick attachment) or did she do this to me on purpose, do you think ?

[–]asd11001 point 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Personal tip. Not part of the red pill rethoric.

Women go mental when you take away security. They can't center themselfs like us(not that modern men even know they are capable of such a thing but that is another issue). They need external linchpinch from where they can comfortably swing their insecurity and emotions.

You took at some point that away from her. ANd now she has all this shit with you(investment, emotions, lust) but she can't trow herself at it, the uncertainty is just to big.

Have a clear position, don't wish wash. Either you go with her or you next her. You are not dealing with a plate anymore, you lost that frame. Either go boyfriend or ex. Because this is not healthy even for you.

[–]_JRTB1 point 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Can't go boyfriend bro, she says she doesn't want me . Don't know what I did to take away security if I'm honest.

[–]asd11001 point 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Then leave, delete her out of your life. Forget the bitch.

The fact that you are so invested in her was enough to loose that security.

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[–]1Dev_on0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

What do you get out of this, what does she bring to the table?

Take those answers, and see how hard they are to get, and how much of her concerns are you willing to concede to?

If what she offers is rare enough that it's worth what you give up, then stick around, if not. There'll be another one.

[–]ModMachiavellianRed0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This belongs in /r/asktrp. Don't flout the rules.

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