Any advice for gay men?

Sunshinelorrypop · 2014-08-17T10:01:14+00:00

"edit: why am I being downvoted?"

Here's a good place to start. Don't expect to be upvoted or to garner sympathy with a victim mentality. Everyone gets voted down, can be for many reasons and from various quadrants of reddit.

I've seen quite a number of gays providing their perspective here. There really should be a compilation because they were quite good reading and might be difficult to search for.

From what I've gathered, gay men often get used by women a lot. They get duped into superficial one-way friendships and have to provide a roll for them (gbf).

I've also advised a guy over at /r/socialskills where he was struggling to make friends with other guys (but have an easy time making friends with women):

The key here is the dimorphic aspect of how we bond. Women bond by policing the herd, they gossip and hold people to standards. You see people complaining about this here sometimes but it's really their natural instinct for survival. Social rebuke is a big deterrant for people and really stops them from acting in horrendous ways. Also by holding other women to account (slut shaming etc), they keep up the standards of the men who will work harder for them. White Knights try to take advantage of this instinct and use it against them but women see through this quite easily and offer them no favours.

Men bond based on survival which is a mindset of loyalty and courage. If you want to become friends with guys, you basically have to convince them that you'll take a bullet for them. This is done moreso through actions, how much dignity you have, how much honour you have etc.

One of my best friends growing up is (now) gay/trans but at the time he was in the closet. He was awesome because despite being physically weak, he'd ferociously stand up for you if you were ever attacked, he would never rat you out and didn't gossip (he took a bullet for me several times). We all knew he was gay but it didn't matter and we'd cover for him because he wasn't ready to come out (I went to a pretty homophobic chavvy school).

I've also had the unfortunate experience of trying to get along with gays that I have no respect for. This was because they had a feminine approach to friendship. With my guy friends, I pretty much expect all conversations to be confidential and I'd chastise others for bringing up gossip to me. However, this one particular guy seemed to think that if he gossiped with me then he'd think that he's letting me in on his inner circle of gossipers; it doesn't work like that. I felt extremely uncomfortable and I had no confidence in him. Essentially, he outcaste himself from all the males there and only had women to fall back on.

CrimsonCapsule · 2014-08-17T13:20:57+00:00

There's already a subreddit just for you: /r/alttrp

liberaceswig · 2014-08-17T07:55:39+00:00

Heres the thing: TO apply the redpill to being a gay man means having to accept the TRUTH of being a gay man in a gay relationship. The red pill cant really give you much advice on this, you will have to seek out the honest advice of your gay peers who have experience in gay relationships to tell you the TRUTH about being a gay man."

I have many gay friends and form what I can conjure up is that most gay men are solely interested in nothing more than sex

Jasmene2012 · 2014-08-17T08:07:07+00:00

Actually many would not have know/noticed but the same theories apply and you can try to check for yourself. Everything applies.

Subtletorious · 2014-08-17T09:34:18+00:00

Read the side panel - all the way to the bottom (no pun intended) - look for altTRP

toofantastic · 2014-08-17T10:30:13+00:00

Read "No More Mr. Nice Guy" and "The Way of the Superior Man."

Even though you aren't dating women, you've likely been pussified senselessly like straight men. These books will show you how to regain your sense of masculinity.

[deleted] · 2014-08-17T15:48:46+00:00

What sort of gay man are you

Top or bottom

If:

Top- Focus on masculinity

Bottom- Focus on femininity

DTDtwopoint0 · 2014-08-17T10:00:57+00:00

I always figured blue pill men and women were all the same. So your approach shouldn't be that much of a difference. Unless you're the bottom. In which case I'm not too sure.

[deleted] · 2014-08-17T10:57:20+00:00

About relationships with man... I think men are very simple, so it shouldn't be a problem I guess, I'm heterossexual so I wouldn't really know.

In relation to women, everything here is right and you can even test in on your day-to-day life, there's no mistakes. Just read and absorb everything, then see the truth for yourself.

bbidabbong · 2014-08-17T15:11:07+00:00

Read David Deida's way of the superior man. In very simply terms, he explained polarity between masculine and feminine and why it is not man / woman exclusive.

stickfiguresk · 2014-08-17T11:53:56+00:00

'You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination.'

Modified_Hackware · 2014-08-17T10:09:14+00:00

Don't associate with My Little Pony would be my hetero advice.

Title	Any advice for gay men?
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Date	August 17, 2014 7:08 AM UTC (12 years ago)
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