Anyone have experience dating a model?

VasiliyZaitzev · 2016-07-15T03:36:18+00:00

I've met a girl who has everything I'm looking for in an LTR--hot, cool, down to earth, unmaterialistic, sweet as pie, good family, good upbringing, the works.

Yep, that's how it starts...

Pull up your chairs, fellas, and let Uncle Vasya tell you a tale.....

In my time I've dated a few models and a (minor) TV personality (while officially to "short" to be a model she was a total smokeshow and was the "lifestyle" correspondent on a news magazine type thing).

The Positives:

-You are banging a total smoke show.

-You will discover you no longer need reservations...anywhere.

-~~They usually have a line on on where to get great coke, anytime, anywhere.~~ Probably shouldn't mention that one.

-A lot of them are totally cool, and dig it when a guy isn't phased at all by them being models.

-Once you get one of them, you can usually get more later.

The Negatives:

-Narcisism, Entitlement, blah, blah, blah. They get validated from the time they get up to the time the go to sleep. Then they get validated in their dreams.

-They whine a lot about being "objectified"--until you don't objectify them anymore.

-Lots of creeper guys hanging around, offering them cash, trips, drugs, whatever...and, oh, yeah, dick.

-You will get a lot of "Hmm. How did HE get HER?" looks. Bask in it. I've had guys ask me what was up, when my date went to the Ladies', and I generally say "I'm a millionaire and I have a dick down to my knees." OTOH, I have returned from getting fresh drinks to have one of my girls hand me a stack of business cards that she was given in the 10 minutes I was gone. /shrugs

How to Make it Work:

-Expect nothing long term. Assume things will have a beginning a middle and and end, and that your job is to enjoy the FUCK out of the middle.

-You need Solid Steel Frame and Industrial Strength "Don't Give a Fuck". Like "The Outlaw Josey Wales" level DGAF.

-And "Sean Connery as James Bond" level Amused Mastery. Treat her like she needs adult supervision--TELL HER that she needs adult supervision.

-Possession of the Ass is 9/10th of the Law. One of my girls had the absolute Rear of the YEAR and would complain about nobody being interested in her IQ. So I started to refer to her ass as her IQ.

-You ARE the Boss of Her. You take NONE of her shit. It's like catnip for them. You impose your will. One told me she was going to get a tattoo--because really, go ruin yourself to show how edgy you are. So I told the ONLY tat she was allowed to have was a tramp stamp that read "PROPERTY OF: VASILIY ZAITZEV". She giggled. And she got wet.

-Call Her on Her Bullshit. One of them shit tested me (sort of) by showing up to our first date (which was a blind date), wearing no makeup whatsoever. I saw through this in 0.00000002 seconds. She looked great anyway, but I knew what was up. She pulled that again, once, when the relationships was established and I told her she looked like shit and to go put some makeup on, which she did. I have never seen her 'dressed down' since.

-You need to 'Force Multiply' your game. Girls who are 'next level' hot get offered dick All Day, Every Day. You need to double down on gaming other girls¹ and you need to mix in some condescension, liberally. Enough so she knows what the boundaries are. You LEAD, she FOLLOWS.

-Understand Your Quarry. At the end of the day, she's a human being, and a girl. They don't think (at least always) like we think. If we were them, we'd be coked up and lezzing out with other hot models, all the time. Now, some of them do actually do that. But most of them want want every girl wants, they just have tyranny of choice. You are completely replaceable, unless you can get her to say this: "No guy has ever [talked to me/treated me/done this to me] before!"²

-You Need to Challenge Her. Keep her back on her heels. She has to think that she has to EARN your time, such as you spend with her. Like you have 6 other, better options.

It will all likely come crashing down at the end. One of my favorites was an Eastern European number that my friends nicknamed "The Hotness". And then they started calling her that in front of her. It got to the point where they always expected that I would bring her and were disappointed if I didn't. Once, early on, when we were out walking some guy at a cafe stood up, took off his sunglasses and tracked her like he was working for NORAD. I stared him down and when he looked at me, I said, "Eyes on your own paper, son." I made some joke about it to her and she said--without a trace of irony--"Oh, that happens all the time." Fu-u-uck. So that's what you're up against.

She wound up going to Europe for the summer season. As I knew that being the clingy guy who couldn't let go was a non-starter, I cut her loose (there wasn't really another option at that point), met a semi-famous actor....who turned her into a coke whore. It was painful to watch, long distance. So you hit the "eject" button and start over.

So enjoy it, but there's so much shit that can go wrong, just Live In The Now with it.

Good luck.

V/Z

¹ As appropriate. This won't be as necessary with introverted girls. There was one who I am sure would have burst into tears (or had a seizure) if I had gamed other girls in front of her. She hated other guys hitting on her and watched over me like a hawk so that other women were scared to talk to me.

² Most recently I was chatting with a girl I flirt with and she was going on about how she wants to get away from her work, blah, blah, sycophants, blah, blah, and other bullshit. I have created a narrative with her and we have discussed her hanging out up at my place....where I told her I would put her to work in my garden. She was a bit nonplussed by that suggestion and asked what else she might do and I told her she would sunbathe nude by my pool and get fucked a lot. Now, that may never happen with that girl, but she didn't exactly run away, either.

HS-Thompson · 2016-07-15T02:29:58+00:00

Yes I have, repeatedly. It's glorious. Every self respecting man should have the experience of sexually dominating a truly exceptional looking woman before they die.

Dating a model is like the equivalent of Navy Seal training camp for TRP concepts, shit testing at a level you have never experienced, and you have to be on point literally every minute you interact with her.

It's fun but it'll get old eventually. Any attempt at a relationship will end in a flaming pile of wreckage, but it will probably be worth it. With a little practice in the major leagues gaming "real" girls becomes like shooting fish in a barrel.

I am talking about actual models by the way, ones represented by Ford or Wilhelmina who make a living in the public eye, not bullshit Instagram "models" that are just ordinary hot girls.

xdesol8x · 2016-07-15T02:23:17+00:00

It's the same as giving a teenager 20 million dollars.

Yeah sure a select few who have been raised well will understand what to do with it but the vast majority will blow it all before you can blink.

Validation is a drug to women, and beautiful women get truckloads of validation simply for doing absolutely nothing. Your frame/game have to be rock solid to manage someone who is constantly being chased by top 10% Chads.

Treat her the same way you would treat an average hb7.

Assassin1476 · 2016-07-15T02:22:20+00:00

You just answered your own question. You're feeling this because you innately know that women have a problem, especially beautiful women. As the saying goes "show me a model and I'll show you someone who's sick of their shit." AWALT

favours_of_the_moon · 2016-07-15T02:39:20+00:00

You have to keep her grounded. She will NOT be able to remain grounded on her own. Call her out on shit, make her prove "street cred" to you. She has to prove that she's not "gone hollywood," make her prove that she still has "authenticity."

Odds are way against you. She WANTS her pretty little head to inflate.

unagiboy · 2016-07-15T03:31:11+00:00

Dated dozens of models and a celebrity known by millions. Here's the truth -- If she is a model because her ego depends on attracting other people, there is no hope. That would make her GF material, not wife material. If she is GF material, but not wife material, the relationship will eventually end. BTW, if she is so hot that she is famous, she is likely emotionally damaged and having a healthy relationship will be difficult -- thus GF material, not wife material. But GF material only works if YOU are capable of keeping her where she belongs. If you put GF material on a pedestal, she'll test you and hurt you

Elim101 · 2016-07-15T02:44:30+00:00

You do realize that she can't be both down-to-earth and narcissistic at the same time, right? Those are contradictory qualities. My money is on the latter being true, and the former is the rose-colored glasses.

PlusGoody · 2016-07-15T03:04:33+00:00

Yes, but in a pre social media ... heck, pre cell phone and consumer email ... era. Very cute. Small head. Obsessed with (not) eating. Starfish sex but I didn't care. Couldn't be negged but also couldn't be flattered ... I basically had to imagine a girl four inches shorter and 30 pounds heavier to hold frame. Her friends were absolute idiots -- worst part of dating her. She went to Europe on a job and never came back or if she did I never found out. (Before cell phones, email and social media, people just vanished.).

bsutansalt · 2016-07-15T05:19:22+00:00

/r/asktrp is for this stuff. Go there and make sure you read the sidebar!

Rommel0502 · 2016-07-15T03:33:17+00:00

Meh. Good looking women are fucking a dime a dozen.

Title	Anyone have experience dating a model?
Author	ItalianLawyer
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Date	July 15, 2016 2:12 AM UTC (10 years ago)
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