First date advice?

Self-elected_trainer · 2016-05-14T16:38:20+00:00

Ruin this date, learn from it. Ruin next 10 dates, learn again. Next moves: Move out, eat health, work out, sleep well, work hard.

flexiblehold · 2016-05-14T17:57:24+00:00

Don't become preoccupied with the results of one date or one woman. Think long-term, not whether you'll be successful with this particular woman this particular night.

In all likelihood, in the time it's taken to actually book this date she's been deep-dicked by a non-committal alpha (or two? three?) and is settling for a drink with you to feel good about herself and her dwindling appeal in the sexual marketplace.

You recognize you lack leadership and escalation skills, so I'd set out to improve in those areas on this date. That you live with your family should be a fact you keep to yourself. A good starting point for leadership is taking her from where you meet to another place, and maybe a third, if things are going well and you are having a good time. Have a handful of places in mind prepared before the date. Use language like "let's go to x," or "I know a great place where...," etc. Another idea is "I'm gonna grab a drink now at x, you should join me." If she doesn't want to, go anyway and get some numbers from the women there.

Expecting anything out of 3 dates in 7 months is unrealistic, I'd also work on volume, getting numbers, initiating conversations with women, going on more dates, etc., expanding your real social network so that you have social proof that will lead women to you, etc.

I'd say good luck, but what you really need to do is continue to self-evaluate and work your ass off.

makeshift98 · 2016-05-14T17:59:00+00:00

I treat my dates exactly like I treat my niece when I take her to the zoo or an amusement park.

sarc0lupus · 2016-05-14T16:50:08+00:00

Organise a venue/location. Don't ask, tell her where to meet you. Do something YOU want to do; fuck what you think she wants; show her your life and how fucking awesome your life is. Give minimal information about the date; keep most of it a mystery. If she says she's busy and doesn't offer an alternative time, NEXT her: if she was really into you, she'd offer you an alternative time.

Always be leading, and don't ask her "if it's okay": lead where you go on the date, what you do, where you eat. Escalate. If you're not fucking her by the 3rd date, NEXT her.

Good luck my friend. If the date fucks up, Self-elected_trainer's comments are gold.

cEddowes · 2016-05-14T18:01:12+00:00

I'm curious to find out; who kept pushing the date back? If she kept pushing the date back she may just be exhibiting classic post wall branch swinging. In that case, beware. Very possibly that time was just filled with another guy.

If you kept pushing the date back, ask yourself if you're really that into her.

Side note: I've never met a woman who was genuinely and totally into me that work related issues prevented her from seeing me. And the fact that you live with your family shouldn't be an issue, as she is 30 and most likely has her own place. Just suggest her place as the arena and exhibit some abundance mentality if the topic of you living at home comes up or is an issue.

misterbadattitude · 2016-05-14T20:47:39+00:00

Let's cook together at your place. Then escalate to fucking.

PabloEscoba · 2016-05-15T03:23:23+00:00

At 30 shes most probably an alpha widow,just plate her and screen for a host of psychological issues before u even consider LTR. You also sound blue pill as hell.

TRP117 · 2016-05-14T23:00:54+00:00

Don't think about it. I try to avoid fantasizing or role playing in my head before a date. Do the basic planning, decide times/locations, logistics, then just act on impulse.

Always be physical. If you're thinking about touching her, do it. Don't wait for a good time, or her to lead you on. Kino, from the first minute you meet her. There's some good kino guides out there.

Talk naturally, speak directly and with authority.

I mentioned this in a previous comment, but if she's anticipating your kiss, escalate faster. Stay one step ahead of her mind/ASD

TermsOfColors · 2016-05-15T00:25:31+00:00

How old is she exactly? It's probably going nowhere, so try to bang her and then just move on.

Shubrook · 2016-05-15T02:23:02+00:00

If you meet for a drink and it goes well, get dinner at a second location. Get dessert at a third and another drink at a 4th. At the end of the night, you're on your 4th date.

Split the checks and spend as much time evaluating her as she does evaluating you. Imagine that you are meeting with someone who wants you to give them a $250,000 gift.

hint: the gift is a load from your loins.

Title	First date advice?
Author	JonMan219
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Date	May 14, 2016 4:04 PM UTC (10 years ago)
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