Fluctuation between states?

rpscrote · 2014-12-08T19:02:00+00:00

I wonder how RP guys approach this too. Similar issues for myself. I know PUA advocates warming up your state by just getting out there, putting on the act and slowly warming into feeling what you're projecting. Anecdotally, if I'm feeling shitty on a particular day I make it a point to be friendly and talkative to someone with NO intention of pick-up -- like just be social, talk to men or old people. Old people are usually pretty cheery and happy to talk. Or I go lift.

If you're bouncing a lot on an hour to hour basis you probably have some mental hormonal stuff going on still from using, im unfamiliar with that so I don't know what kind of recovery schedule you can expect.

RealRational · 2014-12-09T00:20:30+00:00

Discipline.

Ultimately you choose what you feel. You used drugs to manipulate this control. So tone it down, use music, or a tv show, or a book, whatever works for you. I sometimes put on specific music that makes me feel like I can conquer the world, when that feeling just doesn't want to cooperate on it's own.

I also tapper doing this, meaning I'll try to achieve it myself every now and then, making myself wait, making myself stand on my own "just a little longer" before leaning on the crutch.

We are sentient beings, and in many way, determine our own realities.

Good luck bro!

edit: I'll throw in an anecdotal story, why not.

I just fell hard for a girl, and fast. Then she ignored my text, and a second one (yeah, I know). I've been so focused on me, on achieving, on growing, on success that I didn't realize how close I was to breaking. I have a seriously fucked up past, and I guess I deceived myself into believing I was cured. This experience has shown me that I am far from healed from the damage done to me growing up. Trust and abandonment issues, lack of confidence from having no one in my life love me, betrayal and a steady stream of people insisting I'm a worthless piece of shit. I've been firing on all cylinders for years now, kicking ass and taking names. My lifts are up beyond my previous peak at 18 when I was lifting all the time, it was my life. My career has gone from good, to great to downright unbelievable. My friendships have gotten stronger, where as for much of my life they cycled by the year. Everything has been going so well I thought I was fine, I thought I had moved on, I thought that damage had healed. It hasn't. I've been focused on me and really not into women at all, now I know that's called MGTOW but at the time I did it just because I couldn't afford to focus on anything else, cause if I did I wouldn't have made it out alive.

I have been looking for girls, playing game for a while. But it was always easy because, and this is a silver lining of constantly being betrayed, I'm an incredible judge of character and people. I knew none of those of girls were for me the moment I looked in their eyes, so it's easy to run game, I didn't give a fuck. First time since high school I meet a girl who I know could actually be something and I get all carried away. I didn't actually do anything to ruin it, and I'm glad I remembered TRP and switched to ignoring her entirely, instead of chasing the "mystery" of what happened, why she didn't respond.

But to be completely frank I broke down, it was crushing to hit it off so well with a girl, have her blatantly tell me how much likes me then get a spur like that. It really is a small thing that shouldn't even register for me, but it did. That damage is still there, and now I think maybe it's not supposed to heal. Maybe it's a warning, a reminder, a big ass fucking sign saying "don't go down this fucking road again". I do worry that it will keep me from ever getting close to anyone, but then I don't. In the end it didn't hurt that badly, I recovered pretty quickly. Less than 2 days and I'm back on top of my game. If that's the price of opening my heart, of taking that risk, I have no intention of stopping. Compared to the pain I've survived, that's nothing. I could do that every week, hell probably every day here pretty soon.

It was actually a post on here about comfort tests vs shit tests that let me put the pieces back together; now I know what happened and exactly how to proceed. I was treating a girl with LTR potential like a plate. Maybe something happens with her maybe it doesn't, it doesn't really matter again. I'm gonna live my kick ass life, maybe we can create a few happy memories, maybe we can be more, maybe I don't see her again at all. But no matter what I'm staying in this frame of mind, no matter what nothing will stop me. I will let myself feel sad when I need to, when there's no penalty to it, when I'm alone. But when I wake up in the morning I'm in "go" mode again, I'm a machine, an unstoppable killing machine living the dream.

You know what, that's the only man who should even ever have an LTR girl, the man who doesn't need one.

I guess this got off topic, but hopefully something in here will help you achieve that control, that frame of mind. Life isn't a race, not a sprint or a marathon, there is no finish line. It's constant, constant struggle, constant change. I don't hate my pain, I don't loathe my suffering, I'm glad they're there, as markers to keep me from taking those roads again.

[deleted] · 2014-12-08T20:16:49+00:00

I'm the same way right now. I've been clean off smoking cigarettes for about 4 months now (which is the longest I've gone) and had a real hard time with meeting women. It used to be so easy because I'd just ask for a light, or ask for a cigarette and BOOM conversation and number exchange. At school, it was an easy way to socialize and meet new people.. Smoking cigs was the ONLY outlet I had for making new friends.

I'm still having a hard time overcoming this. I hate small talk and generally only have a conversation with people if they approach me cause I'm a little introverted and shy.. I need excuses or reasons to talk to people out of fear of being seen as "desperate" "annoying" or something.. IDK what it is exactly cause people never saw me that way when smoking with them, asking for a light, a cig or anything, but there's got to be a way to overcome this.

red_pill_throw_away · 2014-12-08T21:05:03+00:00

As someone with bipolar, I fluctuate a lot too. Whenever I'm low, I try to think of all the benefits of being confident and pulling my shit together. It obviously doesn't work in all situations and may not be the best strategy but over time you get used to pulling yourself out from a downward mental spiral. Spirals are bad and you need to quickly assess and figure out if you are losing your state and take measures, whatever works for you, asap. The quicker you realise the better, and this is an ability you develop over time. Read cognitive therapy for how to best prevent downward spirals of depression or anger. It's not exactly what you're asking for, I know, but a lot of parallels can be drawn.

iDontKnowMyself · 2014-12-08T23:55:31+00:00

Did you stop cold turkey or ween yourself off? If you did it cold turkey you're probably going through withdrawal symptoms, which can make you uneasy / anxious etc.

Your body is going through all the physical changes as it adapts to not having the opiates in your system.

If you over-stress about immediately fixing your symptoms you'll give yourself higher anxiety than you already have. Its a process -- acknowledge it and build off it.

Title	Fluctuation between states?
Author	Deanb1307
Upvotes	6
Comments	6
Date	December 8, 2014 6:51 PM UTC (11 years ago)
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