Forever Alone redditor here, what steps do I take to get out?

heist_of_saint_graft · 2014-01-26T20:38:01+00:00

Protips:

1) An "average guy" 20 year old has about the lowest SMV of any adult man in the jungle out there. Barely out of puberty, not old enough to have attempted much let alone accomplished it, not even old enough to buy a case of Milwaukee's Best. The only girls who are likely to want to fuck you are 16 and 17-year olds; depending on the laws of your municipality this may not be an option. Therefore:

2) Wait it out, but game it up. I had a horrible batting average when I was 20. But I was still bold and reckless, making approaches on the street and to girls in my extended social circle. I probably got shot down 99 out of 100 times, but I kept going because I was young, dumb, and full of cum. (I'm in my 30s now and currently seeing five different women.) Approaching women and talking to them is good practice and builds up a thicker skin on that little ol' heart of yours. Therefore:

3) Do things to build up your SMV so that when you age "into your prime" (late 20s and all 30s) you will actually have something of high value to offer. Get some hobbies, take risks. Get in a fight. Lose. Travel somewhere more than 24 hours from home with no money and talk your way into sleeping on someone's sofa. Make a mad plan of something you want to build, see it through even if it fails and makes a fool of yourself. Right now you have low SMV because you're just another boy who has spent your life in a classroom and did what he was told. Change that. It'll take years. Finally:

4) CUT THE SELF-PITYING BULLSHIT. "Forever alone"? You sound like a fucking girl. There's only room for one girl in a heterosexual relationship, do you want to compete with another girl for that spot? And seriously who "attempts suicide 3 times"? Girls do. When men want to die they stick a gun in their mouths or jump off a bridge. Girls do suicide attempts to get attention. So, real talk:

5) You are amongst men here. We don't feel any natural pity or sympathy for you, and neither does anybody else besides your mother. You are a MAN, you have to become USEFUL and RELIABLE to be of value to this society. This isn't something you fix overnight. But if you walk into my house with your shoes scraping on the floor and eyes looking down at 'em, I'll know you're not even trying and ask you to leave.

Source: am a man in his 30s. Wish somebody had told me these things at your age.

Cold_August · 2014-01-26T18:16:13+00:00

If you can't be bothered to take the time to tell us what's going on why should we be bothered to tell you how to change it?

mordanus · 2014-01-26T19:34:57+00:00

Read the sidebar info first.

[deleted] · 2014-01-26T18:09:12+00:00

The most important thing to do is find a group of men to be friends with, guys who have higher SMV than you and are willing to mentor you. It isn't easy though since you don't bring much to the table. If you are good at a sport, you can try to join a league.

monsieurhire2 · 2014-01-26T20:53:32+00:00

Here, let me help you.

You know how you were brainwashed with egalitarian "we're all equal, men and women are equal" propaganda?

Well, it was all a bunch of horse-shit.

You see, the sexual market value (SMV), and therefore social value of a girl begins to skyrocket as soon as she sprouts boobs and sports curves. She is suddenly deluged from male attention from all directions. As a young man, you are basically competing with older guys with money, poise, power, status, etc. Even if the girl is only a 5 or a 6, her youth means she'll get hit on by older betas looking to be her provider.

Now, for you as a male, your SMV is tied to money, status power, etc. It is VERY hard for a young, inexperienced male to have ANY of that because all they're offered, for the most part, is COUNTERFEIT status, like being on the football team, going to college. Why is this status counterfeit? Because it comes with NO ACTUAL POWERS. You can't, as captain of the football team, whisk your girlfriend off to Paris and spend lots of money buying her shit she was brainwashed into wanting, but doesn't actually need. Girls figured this out very quickly. The only thing a young man, unless he is independently wealthy via a trust-fund, has to offer a woman that is a tangible benefit is his looks and his body and the status that are associated with it.

This means that if a young man wants a woman, especially a young woman, he must either be very good-lucking and moderately aggressive, or very aggressive and completely (inhumanly) impervious to rejection.

Now, the first thing to realize is that NONE OF THIS IS YOUR FAULT. It is simply the situation you were born into. You didn't choose this. You were basically born into indentured servitude and lied to every step of the way to keep you there under the guise of "educating" you. The point being, that when you get older and figure things out, you can then poach younger women from younger men and repeat the cycle. I suspect that this social construction has to do with putting a brake on population growth. The powers that be want population growth, but not too much too soon.

So basically, the system is skewed to place an inordinate amount of value on a woman who can bear children, and no value on a young man, who is after all, in the long view, expendable as cannon or saltmine fodder, whereas the woman and her fertility are more limited commodity. (Think about it, most men have a biological drive to reproduce, an they make up a little less than half of the population, but what percentage of the 50+% women are actually fertile? This is why young, attractive women are treated like rock-stars and celebrities.)

Now that you understand that it isnt' your fault, you can stop feeling bad about yourself, and starting working on yourself. Don't set an unreasonable goal, like getting laid in a week or a month or something. Sure, it's possible, but it might be with a disgusting skank. Instead, resolve to work on yourself and relentlessly self-improve in all directions.

Clauderoughly · 2014-01-26T19:14:55+00:00

Ok, what aren't you telling us ? (and yourself?)

It could be you are at a really shit college that is the antithesis of what you are looking for. I had the same experience in University. I was really very lonely because no one shared any sort of interests that I did.

My suggestion is to look for friends outside of the college environment. You said you had an interest in flying, then maybe look for a local meetup group on www.meetup.com and get among people who share the same interests that you do.

It could be that you are coming off as overly needy, which can scare the shit out of people you just meet. It's a really vicious catch 22, because you need the social interaction to learn the skills you need to be less awkward and needy.

I would suggest meetup, and developing a good peer group of male friends, maybe even slightly older guys who can help you.

What was your childhood like ? two parent home ? Single mom ?

Give us some more background so we can help you a bit more. Sadly the TRP isn't some magic oracle who can give you magical answers, but we can work with you if you give us enough info.

key402 · 2014-01-26T20:06:38+00:00

Looking at your post history, this is about the sixth time you've asked a question like this. Assuming you're sincere about wanting to improve, it would be fair to ask you to summarize what you've learned from the answers to those questions, what actions you've taken, what worked/didn't work for you.

You feel like you're stuck in the mud spinning your wheels. You're not making connections, you're lonely in a crowd of people having a great time, you're depressed. Asking these questions again and again is also part of spinning your wheels. At some level, you know you're not going to get a magical piece of advice that will diagnose and cure your ill. Judging by past performance, you'll be back in a fortnight asking the same question.

The thing you should be more worried about is in your "I am pathetic" post from a month ago, where you say you're failing classes. If you think your life is bad now, it'll be worse for you in five years time if you're underemployed or unemployed with a poor academic record. Treat college like an uncongenial workplace, where you don't get on too well with your colleagues, but you have to get the job done so you can move to better things. Set your alarm, drag yourself in, do the work on time, and try not to beat yourself up or compare your life with that of your classmates.

FortunateBum · 2014-01-26T21:13:45+00:00

God's sake, you're only 20. MGTOW.

jobs33ker · 2014-01-26T21:40:07+00:00

After taking a cursory glance at your posting history, its obvious you're out for sympathy. You will not find it here. What's more, you need to seek out your own answers. I get the impression that you're constantly posting looking for input when you've done non of the work yourself. Do you really expect people to just tell you the magic words that will suddenly make a man out of you? First of all unsubscribe from all those stupid self pity circle jerk subs like depression and forever alone. And stop browsing mainstream subs. They are like poison for any man with any kind of self actualization.

I understand depression I also have suffered from it. It runs in my family. So I know how you feel. But you've got to meet us halfway. You seem to me like one of those over analytical types. that's exactly how I was when I was in my teens. There is nothing worse than that. I used to look at my peers who are half is intelligent, but had way more confidence and success with women than me. It wasn't until I learned how to harness my own attributes and make them work FOR me rather than against, that I was able to succeed. When it comes to any type of social interaction, as others have already stated, you have to bring something to the table for others to want to be around you. You can't just look around with your eyes all big and wondering why nobody Wants to hang with you just because you're "funny and nice ". Those two things are what every loser says about themselves, thinking anyone gives a fuck. They don't. You're boring. You've got to learn to take risks and go out on a limb. Also it seems to me that you are desperate for the approval of otherS. People sense this from a mile away, and they want nothing to do with you, and why should they? Anyone who is actually trying to make friends will not make friends. People who actually do make friends do so by displaying value. If you have nothing going for you then why would anyone want to be around you?

AdmiralVonJackass · 2014-01-26T20:26:41+00:00

Do you lift? I started cause I wanted to look sexy, and it changed the way I existed. My mind is steady, my demeanor calm. I used to be an anxious depressed little fuck. I'm now the king of myself and the boss at work.

I've only been lifting a year. Up 20lbs in weight, down to 12% bf. The results come quicker than you'd expect. My mind flipped ~ the 6 month mark.

puaSenator · 2014-01-26T20:52:08+00:00

Start with seduction until you build an abundance mentality, then come here. I promise you, it'll be a lot psychologically easier.

Future_Alpha · 2014-01-26T18:55:53+00:00

Hey man, I was much the same way you were when I was younger (i'm 21 now). When I was in high school, elementary school I had no friends, kids would try to beat me up, etc. I would observe the "cool kids" and watch how they acted and imitated them. That is how I learned about the existence of "cocky funny" before I heard about David DeAngelo. Obviously, since my reputation was established I was not able to change much in high school. But things changed singnificantly when I went to College because I implemented everything I've learned over the years.

My advice to you: Watch how the high SMV guys act/get others to go out. Adopt their mannerisms. Watch what works what doesn't. Keep what works, discard the rest. Don't focus on getting laid, focus on making new dude friends. Start kickboxing/mma, it gives you a death stare so that many guys will be your friend because they are intimidated. Don't be a people pleaser -- don't want to do something say no, you don't want to. Talk to girls, implement what you saw the high SMV guys do. Before bed take 10 min and reflect on your interactions with people and see what you did right and what you could have done better. Do not show weakness in front of other people. This process may take 1-2 years maybe longer. So don't get discouraged if you are not seeing results in a year, you are learning. One day once you learn enough and integrate enough of it, you'll experience an epiphany. In the meantime, soldier on.

Throw parties. Few people will come initially, but make it so amazing that word spreads. Do daygame and get girls and give them to other dudes, help them get laid, etc, etc. Become indespensible. By helping a dude get laid at a party or club, he will invite you to other parties and help you get laid too.

Therapy won't help you. If you do what I said, it will.

Title	Forever Alone redditor here, what steps do I take to get out?
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Date	January 26, 2014 6:02 PM UTC (12 years ago)
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