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Found this sub recently and I think it's amazing...

drios1

November 27, 2013
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Title Found this sub recently and I think it's amazing...
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drios1

Upvotes 36
Comments 34
Date November 27, 2013 7:39 AM UTC
(12 years ago)
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[–]Endorsed Contributor3030303030303020 points21 points22 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I'm sorry you had to experience this, sounds incredibly painful and it's funny how much your ex wife didn't give a fuck about you and your feelings. Just keep ignoring your ex, she's a no good whore and you know that. They usually work very hard on reclaiming their sweet beta providers, pretend love and affection, then they come back to cheating with guys they are really attracted to.

I look forward to finding a great woman but I don't ever want to place her on a pedestal.

That's fine but great majority of them is like your ex wife so don't waste your life.

Wear a condom and don't get married again.

[–]drios1[S] 6 points7 points8 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Agreed. I don't think I want to fall into a marriage again like before if I do find a good woman. I would like a committed relationship where we both respect each other but not a legal marriage. Until then I am definitely playing it safe.

[–]drios1[S] 13 points14 points15 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Sorry for any spelling mistakes i'm writing this via my cell phone and sometimes I don't catch the auto corrects

[–][deleted] 8 points8 points8 points 12 years ago | Copy Link

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[–]drios1[S] 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Ah but of course. I'll do that next time

[–]nSaneMadness7 points8 points9 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

I'm just going to say curve that last thought now. YOU are the prize. Think it now. Believe it now.

Live for you, no one else.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

This is good advice. Your journey of self-improvement is for you and not her. Of course the look of regret in her eyes is a nice perk though. ;)

[–]nSaneMadness0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Better to not care about whether or not you make her regret losing you. You know it's her loss, and that's enough.

Yeah, I get it, it's a nice perk, but he doesn't need her validation, in any form.

Hell my lift partner has joked about seeing my ex again, "imagine if you bump into her a few months or a year from now." I just shrug. I really don't care if I see her again. I gave her enough of my energy and time, and got little in return. Only to be broken up with because she didn't want to be an adult and take responsibility for her own bad decisions. She's not necessarily a bad person, she's just a woman.

[–]drios1[S] 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

that's the aim. thanks for the comment :)

[–]NextBrownMamba4 points5 points6 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

That sucks man, glad to hear you've solved the problem and have taken her out of your life and have also been improving yours.

[–]drios1[S] 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Indeed. I look back and think about myself during those days and can't see myself being that person again. It was an eye opening experience.

[–]Modified_Hackware 4 points5 points6 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Hey everyone I really about how this sub is dedicated to rebuilding the man that had become lost and pushed away by todays societal norms. Reading some of these posts has me realizing that I have many 'beta' traits that I no longer want in my life.

I was married two years ago and during that marriage and before I was the nice non compromise guy. Thinking that being that guy was what a woman wanted was a horrible self view. I learned the hard way when my ex wife was having an affair. She had been with a total of 5 different guys in the span of four months. I was depressed and hurt. Trying to do the right 'religious' thing of forgiving and working it out. She didn't care at all.

One of the last times I saw her I gave in and had sex with her. That was a mistake that could've cost me alot. After the sex I had many thoughts and ideas that it could work. She was trying to convince me that it would. I almost called off the divorce. But as I sat there talking with her after our sexual encounter deep down inside I felt a burning screaming piece of me that was warning me of my foolish choice. Well after that feeling wouldn't go away I manned up and told her, "if I take you back deep down inside I will regret it." I then up and left. It was the first time i've done that. I look back now and am very grateful that I left her and finished the divorce.

I've since then have been rebuilding myself, lost weight, worked out, and am finishing my associates degree (something I never thought I'd do). I haven't spoken or searched for my ex since the divorce. She's tried to befriend me by chiming to my work and trying to get my attention. i'm not looking back but only wanting to look forward. I look forward to finding a great woman but I don't ever want to place her on a pedestal.

I want to reclaim my manhood where when she sees me she knows that i'm the ultimate prize and not her. So i'm going to stay in this sub Reddit reading all the advice.

[–]nSaneMadness2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Thanks for the formatting. Hard to read the OP between sets at the gym.

[–]drios1[S] 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

sorry for the format. i wrote it last night from my cell phone as i was going to sleep. i refixed it. thanks for giving it a view none the less

[–]drios1[S] 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

thanks for this re format

[–]TRP VanguardCyralea5 points6 points7 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

But as I sat there talking with her after our sexual encounter deep down inside I felt a burning screaming piece of me that was warning me of my foolish choice. Well after that feeling wouldn't go away I manned up and told her, "if I take you back deep down inside I will regret it." I then up and left.

The exact moment of you swallowing the red pill. Congrats man. Now fix your shit and do what it takes to make yourself happy, fuck your ex and fuck anyone's opinion of your decisions at this point. It's an uphill climb, but the view at the top is fucking amazing.

[–]drios1[S] 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

thank you for the encouragement. when i think about that day when i said those words i felt an awakening, like a veil was removed from my sould, so that i could finally think and see for myself. it was truly rewarding and empowering to leave her there as she thought she was going to get her way. i can't wait to reach the top and see the sights with my fellow brothers.

[–]cugar4 points5 points6 points 12 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

i highly highly highly recommend reading "no more mr nice guy" or grab the audio book, it's excellent. i read/listened to it twice over, it will blow your mind in conjunction with this sub. after this a good book to get back into the dating world is "models" by mark manson which is the same tone (the audiobook isn't great though)

[–]drios1[S] 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

thank you for the heads up i'll have to put that on my to read list asap

[–]cugar0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

by the time you read it you'll kick yourself for not reading/knowing about the book sooner

[–]Goku7070 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I finished NMMNG last week and it does indeed have really good points on a lot of things. I do not like how it demonizes men for being Nice as if the only purpose of being genuine was to manipulate and control etc.

Some of the exercises were good. I'd give it a 7/10. Still worth the read

[–]cugar0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

for me it held true, i was doing things/being nice to women in hopes they would like me/see me as a possible mate/bang me. because that's what i was brought up to believe...be nice to girl = get vagina/undying love/companionship...and that is not how it works

[–]Goku7070 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Personally for me it's just being taught they are "delicate creatures" and every woman deserves respect simply for being women. Sex has always been something I'm "not allowed" to pursue so it hasn't been the motive.

Which is obviously changing as I digest the pill.

[–]TRP Vanguard: "Dark Triad Expert"IllimitableMan6 points7 points8 points 12 years ago* (5 children) | Copy Link

Women are pretty much soulless fkin creatures in the west. I mean what you described isn't even rare. Bitches are soulless when a man can't make them feel anything. They think that is justification enough, but the fact they do not have an internal frame of reference strong enough to not be so immoral, despicable and disloyal says enough about them as beings. Their actions are always the fault of the mans, bitches don't do responsibility and self-determination when it comes to relationships.

You always take the blame for a relationship going bad, as by merit of being leader, its the responsibility of the man to make sure the relationship is working, and it always will be if anybody is to have a happy and lasting one (which is why you should treat your commitment like its gold-dust, most of these crazy bitches are just not worthy of the best of you), however what we cannot take responsibility for is the inherent nature of women, to betray you, exploit you and shit in your heart when you "don't give her the right feelings" and "she gets bored" or "there's no spark" or whatever other romanticised emotive bullshit she speaks to cover up her own inherent lack of moral decency which she uses to justify her atrocities.

Women are not credible people and their eptitude for psychological destruction is huge.

Irrational + Immoral = Destructive.

Clarify my meaning: women aren't always immoral, they just have the most flexible morality in existence when it comes to romantic endeavours.

[–]drios1[S] 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

yeah it's the lesson i've been learning. woman in the western culture are very selfish. the selfless reserved and respectable woman of yesteryears has been squashed and replaced by the "bad bitch" who has all the answers. who says "fuck everything" when she thinks it's all about her happiness only.

[–]TRP Vanguard: "Dark Triad Expert"IllimitableMan0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Yeah man, I'm gen Y. My mums generation are like this too. I have to go to my grans generation (baby boomers) to see some decent western women, it's sad.

[–]drios1[S] 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

it's just crazy how men have disappeared or have become rare. where the feminine man has emerged all over plus the the barrage of power tripping manipulative women are running rampant. either way i'm going to become who i want with no approval of a womans affection and approval.

[–]TRP Vanguard: "Dark Triad Expert"IllimitableMan1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

Yeah the severe lack of "male only spaces" that are available plays a big role in this.

Male only organisations are inherently sexist/misogynist under current propaganda.

Female only institutions? That's fine. They're equal but victims to everything so they need "refuge" which grants them additional privilege/freedom unavailable to men.

See that double standard? Men are feared because their potential for brilliance and rebellion is massive. That's why they have the majority of men all emasculated and pussified, so they tow the line and serve the few masters who can enjoy the fruits of all this shit.

A part of the red pill is awakening the notion that you are valuable, you have massive potential and to realise both of these things. The real creme da la creme of this is that you should do this all to yourself, for yourself by controlling how you use your own abilities and on what terms, basically, do not be exploited (unless ironically, allowing someone to temporarily exploit you could be of deferred benefit to you) - such a belief system is dangerous to a system which is totally and utterly reliant on exploiting people, capitalism exploits the unskilled (so don't better yourself, works in the service sector as a wage slave) and feminism has women exploiting men (so don't stop paying the taxes which fund their single mother lifestyles and "independence") etc.

Feminists are as "independent" as the taxes that men pay in droves allow them to be and the governments they vote in which keep widening the size of the welfare state.

This sounds like a ridiculous fucking conspiracy, but just stare hard enough and you'll see that although we see the redpill as an antibiotic, the system sees it as a fucking pathogen - being a red pill man is not compatible with societies goals, that is why society is adverse to it.

I must thank you for raising these points and discussing this with me, as I think i shall make this the topic of my next article.

[–]drios1[S] 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's going to make for a great topic

[–]1 Endorsed Contributormordanus0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Never forgive someone if it isn't asked for or wanted. All the people that say you should forgive for your sake don't understand the concept. Forgiveness benefits the forgiven not the forgiver.

[–]drios1[S] 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

That is actually very true when you put it that way

[–]Goku7070 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

To forgive is to set a prisoner free and discover that the prisoner was you. Lewis B. Smedes

Forgiveness is NOT Forgetting. You can let go of the hurt, anger and anguish that is caused by holding on. Fuck her, but there's no need to resent her. That shit Will tear you up and prevent you from your true awesomeness.

She's the one who forced the pill down your throat.

[–]Hateblade0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Sounds a lot like what I went through, except I have two small children. You're golden, man. Keep working on yourself and hang in there.

[–]RejectionEquality1 point 12 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Trying to do the right 'religious' thing of forgiving and working it out.

There is no god. There is no Heaven. There is no Hell. But that's truly a wonderful thing.

I feel your pain. Having been cheated on myself (by someone that likewise made it abundantly clear that she did not care the least little bit, even going so far as to describe her feelings as "indifferent" while she was cheating), one of the hardest lessons I took away from that was: in addition to the above, there is also no need to dwell on the past. There is only here and now. Carpe diem.

I would suggest reading this thread immediately. It struck a chord in me and was one of the most liberating post-betrayal feelings I've ever experienced.

After reading it, I realized that I drove her away because I badly wanted her to love me (and I think it's safe to say that she shared that desire). But what I did not realize at the time is that women simply lack that capability (q.v., The Iron Rule of Tomassi #6).

I have realized now that I don't need love from women. In fact, I don't need love at all. And if you can accept that fact and realize that it will never happen, and manage to get past the depression stage, as I have, you will find it strangely comforting.

Welcome to TRP. May you move on with your life and spin plates to your heart's desire.

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