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Red Pill TheoryCyralea/r/TheRedPill09/04/16 03:40 PM
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MetaCyralea/r/TheRedPill10/09/14 02:01 PM
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Field ReportCyralea/r/TheRedPill06/06/14 02:12 PM
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ScienceCyralea/r/TheRedPill28/07/15 05:37 PM
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Red Pill TheoryCyralea/r/TheRedPill14/07/15 01:55 PM
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Red Pill TheoryCyralea/r/TheRedPill09/01/15 03:43 PM
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Red Pill TheoryCyralea/r/TheRedPill24/08/15 01:59 PM
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Rant/VentingCyralea/r/TheRedPill06/12/13 09:16 PM
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MetaCyralea/r/TheRedPill31/05/14 03:30 AM
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Red Pill TheoryCyralea/r/TheRedPill02/02/15 07:20 PM
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Red Pill ExampleCyralea/r/TheRedPill25/07/14 01:50 PM
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Red Pill TheoryCyralea/r/TheRedPill20/01/16 08:49 PM
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Red Pill TheoryCyralea/r/TheRedPill17/07/14 03:13 PM
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Men's RightsCyralea/r/TheRedPill12/03/16 07:09 PM
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DebateCyralea/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/15 02:07 PM
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DiscussionCyralea/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/15 02:30 PM
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Women gravitate towards a strong figure's aura. Don't shy from your position. Over time she will adopt your stance without realizing it. Not worth your time to engage for short-term prospects.
/r/askTRP22/06/17 06:51 PM
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If you want some real eyepopping numbers, have a look at Japan. A staggering 44% of men over the age of 18 have never even had sex, much less procreated.
/r/askTRP26/05/17 06:09 PM
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So I fit the bill. I'll give you the coles notes. Specialize in something and learn it inside and out Analyze the industry and see how it operates. Figure out how it could operate better. Figure out how much value that improvement would be work to someone else. Build a business model off of that You need savvy, smarts and bit of luck to make it work from there.
/r/askTRP27/04/17 06:36 PM
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This is based on perception, and this is an inaccurate representation of reality Based on what? Your perception? How is that more valid than ours? You make the mistake all women make, in assuming you have the only correct worldview. Ironically proving everyone's point about you. Tell me again how attractive that is to everyone on the planet. We don't have to prove anything to you. If the methods in here were ineffective you wouldn't care. But you do care. Your concern is with pushing your narcis…
/r/TheRedPill27/04/17 01:09 PM
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Furthermore, if your entire experience of women were trans women, you may make the blanket statement that all women have penises And this precise logic applies to your comment about women not being destructive. How is that not also based on your perception? Given your username, I'd wager the men in this sub have dated more women than you have. If it's a game of perspective you're trying to play you're shorthanded there.
/r/TheRedPill26/04/17 07:34 PM
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Women are shorter than men. I just generalized an entire gender. My statement isn't even true 100% of the time. It's true the overwhelming majority of the time. And that information is useful.
/r/TheRedPill26/04/17 05:11 PM
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Curiously, this is one area where national laws differ quite a bit. In Canada there are no gift taxes at all, barring capital property. In the United States I believe the limit before the Gift Tax triggers is $14,000. In the U.K. I believe it's only £3,000, but I think there's some stipulation for children and spouses that's a fair bit higher. Seems to me that countries differ as to whether or not it's a problem.
/r/TheRedPill04/04/17 04:15 PM
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Funny that they couldn't find one active RedPiller to talk to.
/r/TheRedPill31/03/17 04:10 PM
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For an article that frequently mentions using manipulation tactics and one-sided brainwashing techniques, they rather interestingly avoided asking any existing Red Pillers for their insights. Rather curious, no?
/r/TheRedPill31/03/17 04:06 PM
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If the Red Pill truly brings success to men who adopt it, then why would any man remain in a blue pill stupor? “Surely,” he must think, “if there were men who had the keys to success and were able to demonstrate it, I should listen to what they say.” The answer is fairly simple, but requires you to go back far enough. Children absorb information uncritically during their adolescence. There's a strong evolutionary pressure there -- kids that were critical of their parents ideas simply died, becau…
/r/TheRedPill19/12/16 07:37 PM
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When a fighter pilot gets in his jet, he trusts that the construction engineers did a good job of ensuring its safety. You still verify every so often to make sure that things are working the way they should.
/r/askTRP13/12/16 05:18 PM
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Where exactly do you think this knowledge comes from? Contrary to what some silly people in other subs believe, TRP is crafted from real life experiences. Many of us have lived it, adapted from it, mastered our understanding of it. TRP is what you get when you crowdsource understanding of relationship dynamics. It's why it's so accurate.
/r/TheRedPill12/12/16 09:28 PM
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A lot of TRP is experience being handed down from an older generation to the newer one.
/r/TheRedPill08/12/16 07:48 PM
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you started your previous argument by saying that most men nowadays do not reproduce I made no such claim. Perhaps you've mistaken me for another user. At this point, you agreed and switched gears, and mentioned something else entirely: the life satisfaction of men. This is the primary crux of my earlier posts. Again, I think you've confused me for someone else. you claim many men desire oppresses women, because as I explained in my previous answer it encourages them to get married at an early a…
/r/TheRedPill08/12/16 03:20 AM
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The 'old world' society did not allow more men to reproduce, actually. No, it really did allow them to reproduce more. 8000 years ago 17 women procreated for every 1 man. That changed with symmetric pairing values, most of which were instilled by various religions and community structures at the time. This lasted for literally millennia in some variant or another. Even TRP acknowledges that it's definitely not only the top 20% of men who are procreating nowadays Correct, because the issue isn't …
/r/TheRedPill07/12/16 06:35 PM
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What TRP wants can only exist in our actual society, though Naturally. TRP is a response to the state of modern society. it is common knowledge even in TRP that most people in our society do eventually have kids. That is not what defines a successful society. you are complaining because nowadays women explore their sexuality before settling down and having only one or two kids, correct? No, I'm unsure where you got that impression. Multiculturalism (really, globalism) is a separate problem entir…
/r/TheRedPill07/12/16 04:05 PM
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It's not "our" interest, it was in the best interests of society. Soft-harem models don't allow the propagation of large societies. Symmetrical pairing of partners is the reason we have civilisation as we know it. That's not TRP's primary concern, however. Society is already decaying. Our goal is to secure what's in our best interest -- sluts for fucking, and girls with self-respect for relationships.
/r/TheRedPill07/12/16 02:55 PM
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I assume you're already lifting heavy? You shouldn't be so low libido. Have your T levels checked. Could be it.
/r/askTRP26/11/16 03:33 PM
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Rub one out a few hours beforehand Do some heavy lifting a few hours beforehand Wear a rubber All three will reduce sensation and help you last.
/r/askTRP25/11/16 05:34 PM
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Be that as it may, it would still be ruled inadmissible, and you run the risk of causing a mistrial. Something you don't want. The courts are stacked against you. No point fucking with them.
/r/TheRedPill25/11/16 03:46 AM
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If it's illegally obtained (as is the case for you in NH), then it is not admissible as evidence. There are a few extenuating circumstances (such as recording the police) but most of them time they will not apply. If I'm not mistaken, NH also treats your live-in partner as your wife when working out inheritance. Rather silly state.
/r/TheRedPill24/11/16 07:03 PM
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Certain states will simply not allow the recording as admissible evidence.
/r/TheRedPill23/11/16 06:25 PM
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The answer is really simple. In poorer societies there isn't a gravy-train of betas to steal tax dollars from. You don't have basic bitches that can pursue a liberal arts degree, spend two years travelling and then come back to work at Starbucks. There are fewer handouts. This creates an environment where the individual alpha is far more valued for his worth. Attaching yourself to a successful person is that much more vital. Women are excellent at pragmatic self-preservation, evolution built the…
/r/askTRP22/11/16 06:30 PM
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I am here, so I ask in a non-PC space if any of the older members of the redpill can give me some advice which they wished they followed at my age. Double your age, so let me start with this: re-evaluate any idea you currently believe to be "bullshit". Ask yourself instead, "what aspect of the world am I currently unaware of that's preventing me from understanding this view?" 90% of the things you currently believe will to some degree be incorrect. You're young. The amount of things you don't kn…
/r/askTRP12/11/16 01:26 AM
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Sounds like textbook Borderline Personality Disorder. Beware chicks who are hyper sexual without any action on your part.
/r/TheRedPill07/11/16 08:44 PM
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for some reason lots of Asians dig chubby guys Not true for Japanese, Korean or Chinese from my experience. Slim, muscular frames very in for them. Similar to this guy's frame.
/r/TheRedPill07/11/16 08:23 PM
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Most women want to marry a rich person, that's universal. It's different within Asian culture. There is no social stigma against chasing wealth. "Look for someone rich" is roughly in equal sentiment to "Look for someone who makes you happy" in the West. Asian parents will deny their kids from dating someone they deem too poor/low class.
/r/TheRedPill07/11/16 08:14 PM
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Yes and no. I've got some insight into this from my upbringing and LTR. Been deeply entrenched in Chinese culture for a long time, despite not being Asian myself. Asians absolutely adore alphas, but with some edges shaved off. As OP mentioned, bragging/showing off is a big no-no. Showcasing your success and achievement is common, when done indirectly (eg. big parties hosted to show off wealth). Wealth really fucking matters. Westernized Asians will fuck around with a penniless alpha in private; …
/r/TheRedPill07/11/16 08:07 PM
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Tell her she can have as many months as she likes. Because you're done. No woman who is attracted to you will ask for a break. Full stop.
/r/askTRP28/10/16 05:16 PM
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Intentionally? Nothing. TRP exists as a repository for men bettering themselves. It's as aimless as an encyclopedia is. Unintentionally, the Overton window has started shifting with people starting to abandon the Social Justice narrative. Each person that unplugs is a seed that influences those around him. We're seeing this with the rise of popularity with figures like Donald Trump.
/r/askTRP27/10/16 06:32 PM
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Visitation rights. Some social status in certain circles. That's about it. Not worth throwing your life away for.
/r/askTRP09/10/16 08:56 PM
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Amuses me that there are still guys who flip-flop on this one. Swallow the pill but still believe they can fall on a woman for support. Wager it's because men lack an appropriate outlet. Women are not there to solve your problems. Talk to your boys if you need to let it out.
/r/TheRedPill06/10/16 07:02 PM
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There are alphas out there that commit. They tend to commit under circumstances of their choice, but they exist. There is no woman out there that won't cheat under the right circumstances.
/r/TheRedPill06/10/16 02:46 PM
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She says if I quit she'll think about divorcing me Now imagine this scenario without any fear of this. The guy would walk away, with an empty wallet and a bruised ego, but he'd be free. Instead he's a slave for life. Don't get married.
/r/TheRedPill03/10/16 02:19 PM
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Keep your opinions to yourself, no matter how "chill" a female coworker may seem. Especially controversial ones. A female ally today will happily use that information to backstab you down the road when it's convenient for her. She'll hamster some excuse that absolves her for betraying your trust. If they press you on any controversial issues, just deflect with something like "I don't really spend much time thinking about that". Keep things light and friendly, but never reveal your true character…
/r/askTRP27/09/16 05:22 PM
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You're not really accounting for people transitioning. Unconfident to confident isn't a light switch. You're not wrong about true confidence requiring a strong internal anchor, but it takes a while for those making their way there. Small techniques like posture change, eye contact, etc. are useful immediate solutions to be applied while working on developing one's internal anchor. Nothing wrong with smaller solutions while working on developing yourself.
/r/TheRedPill27/09/16 03:21 PM
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Always a possibility. I've known women to behave in exactly the manner outlined, however. The takeaway from it should be the same.
/r/TheRedPill27/09/16 01:25 PM
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I take 4,000 IU every day. It makes a difference for sure. Most people aren't getting anywhere near enough naturally.
/r/TheRedPill25/09/16 01:22 PM
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She let his head get inside her. On a different note, the bigger take away here is the reminder that women will overlook any detrimental aspect of your character if your SMV is sufficiently high. Not sure how many of us would fuck a woman who's life's purpose was to kill all your countrymen.
/r/TheRedPill24/09/16 04:42 PM
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Sure it's not good for other men if I cheat with their gf or wife, but very few men offer me the same courtesy - why should I miss out, when everyone else is being amoral? You want to impose a gender-wide "don't cheat with my gf" rule, and have all men agree to it and abide by it? Sure, I'm down with that. But I'm not going to do it unilaterally. At its crux it really does break down to simple Game Theory. Either all parties are forced to abide, or none are.
/r/TheRedPill24/09/16 04:31 PM
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Surely there a happy medium that can be reached? Sure, there's always a lie that can make you feel better, right here, right now. Those lies do nothing to improve your situation down the road. The point of TRP is to strip away the fluff and only retain the truth, however bitter, to play the game as optimally as possible. Something you can only do when armed with accurate information. TRP doesn't cultivate negativity, doubt and fear, it merely shows you how these things already exist in the world…
/r/askTRP22/09/16 02:02 PM
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Shame you're getting so many downvotes, you're spot on. Asian women that aren't distanced entirely from their own culture require an adjusted approach. You need to be bold without being intrusive. Social status is worth 10x as much.
/r/TheRedPill22/09/16 01:42 PM
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Sounds like you've just not created the right environment that's conducive to your happiness. Find younger friends and similarly minded people who aren't looking to do the marriage and kids thing. There are lots of young women who desire you in your 30's. You just need to not look washed up like every other schlub in his 30's. I'm in my mid-30's and people mistake me for mid-to-late 20's all the time. Fitness, health and grooming go a long way. If you're struggling in your 30's you haven't done …
/r/TheRedPill22/09/16 01:33 PM
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The amount of inane shit that women find "Just. So. Fucking. Funny." is pretty remarkable.
/r/TheRedPill20/09/16 08:02 PM
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This is pretty much the only time you can get the truth from a woman, when she knows it won't affect her reputation and she's going to benefit regardless. She could afford to drop the pretense and admit RP truths. I knew a guy who had serious 'fuck you' money because of his parents that did this. He still wasn't happy though, even if he appeared to enjoy it. It's just not the same if they don't genuinely desire you, even if they're good at faking it. Fucking 10's is great, but there's always goi…
/r/TheRedPill03/09/16 04:28 PM
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Yes, create an alt and stop using the old one. Not worth the risk.
/r/askTRP27/08/16 05:01 PM
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Word to the wise, if an ex knows your reddit account, change it asap.
/r/askTRP26/08/16 11:35 PM
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They appropriated the TRP label without being in any way RedPill. It's more MRA/beta-whining than anything else. That said, it's going to shine a light on the manosphere at the very least.
/r/askTRP24/08/16 01:58 PM
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In case no one's answered this yet, we have a flair system to designate which members are knowledgeable about TRP and its application. The Vanguard tag in particular refers to the most senior experienced members of the sub.
/r/askTRP23/08/16 01:36 PM
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It's not really, though I'd refine it to "Women are provided as much safety as their environment can afford". Where safety and provision are allowed, it's always offered to women first and foremost.
/r/TheRedPill23/08/16 01:24 PM
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It takes men the better part of a decade to refine their approach technique. Women never have to put in anywhere close to that kind of investment. Their approach techniques are always going to be clumsy and banal like that. I had one girl open with "hey, do you work around here?" while I'm in my business attire in the business district of my city.
/r/TheRedPill23/08/16 01:22 PM
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Learning to exist without the need for validation is hard, but especially so when it comes to ones parents. It's understandable why you wanted to do what you wanted to do. Kids want to make their parents proud. The reality is that you're not going to get it from your dad, and you never were; nothing you did would have affected that, it's just his nature. Accepting that hurts, though. Any pillar that requires another pillar to keep it up is not strong. Just need to recognize that your personal gr…
/r/TheRedPill22/08/16 07:18 PM
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You take a holistic overview of her characteristics. You look for other tells that she's just a recovering slut. Very few women have the capacity to hide all of their tells. There are some good posts on here about red flags, I'd suggest looking into them.
/r/askTRP20/08/16 02:25 PM
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RP strategy works towards building LTR's as well, not sure why you feel it doesn't. You merely adapt a few elements. You aren't wrong about girls who put out instantly often being poor relationship prospects. If you're strongly considering one, then you need to ease up on the expectation that she'll put out on the first night. That said, there's no particular reason you should approach any woman with the intent to LTR her. Let her prove that to you.
/r/askTRP19/08/16 08:49 PM
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Viagra in combination with jerking it a couple hours beforehand works amazing for endurance fucking. Can literally go for hours without releasing if you wanted to.
/r/askTRP12/08/16 04:20 PM
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It's illogical from a male standpoint, but completely logical from a female one. Remember that her goal is AF/BB, not "making other men happy". There are no ethics being considered here, just rational self-interest. Women aren't often considering the effects their decisions have on others.
/r/askTRP12/08/16 04:18 PM
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Charity should be limited to those who are in a position to give it, unless it brings you personal joy to do so. I give to charity but I have a sizeable income. Until you're at this point you're sacrificing from your personal growth. It's an opportunity cost that you need to consider, and weight it against any happiness it brings you in the interim.
/r/askTRP12/08/16 04:15 PM
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She had two guys she was talking to, an Alpha Fucks, and a beta orbiter. Guess which one she pegged you to be? She probably thought she hit the lottery in getting both the things she wanted at once. Once she found out that you weren't okay with the setup she panicked. Very predictable. If you don't act like the kind of guy that will fuck her well, why would she fuck you? You call it games, but all it is is signalling to her base lizard brain that you're what she wants. If your goal was to fuck h…
/r/askTRP12/08/16 04:07 PM
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Step 1: Blame everyone else Step 2: Go endlessly digging for any evidence that even remotely supports step 1 Women in a nutshell.
/r/TheRedPill30/06/16 09:39 PM
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There are some, to be sure. The men in this sub, specifically, have a different set of motives and incentives. Getting married is a fool's game in today's environment, but many simply aren't aware. TRP'ers are different in that respect. You're applying your experience with non-TRP men onto TRP'ers. It's not the same. Further, making up for lost time isn't insecurity. It's recognising different values at different points in life.
/r/TheRedPill28/06/16 07:57 PM
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A lot of guys that are “gaming” in their 30s are doing it to fill some insecurity, usually from their youth You had some spot on material, until this. Doesn't seem like this is your first time trying to push this point either. It's simply not true. You've established this idea in your head for whatever reason, but I know many guys who do it because it's simply preferable to the alternative -- fucking only one woman for life, who may or may not destroy you at a moment's notice. Truthfully, it's o…
/r/TheRedPill28/06/16 06:49 PM
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Not in the traditional sense, the way it is with sexual partners. Though it is cause for concern. One expects higher quality women to be more actively screening partners before settling on one, but it could at the same time signal that she's clueless about what she wants and is simply indecisive. A woman that's been on dozens of past first dates in a short period probably isn't worth your time for anything more than a quick thing. Chances are she wouldn't be down for anything less than an LTR.
/r/TheRedPill21/06/16 11:40 PM
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He was a pioneer. And like many pioneers, he got some things really fucking wrong, and misattributed some things. He ultimately provided the material that would later develop into the matured manosphere. You don't need to respect the man necessarily to respect his legacy.
/r/TheRedPill13/06/16 04:53 PM
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Another solid post from our Whisper. I've given this topic a lot of thought, specifically what comes after all this. A functioning, stable system will arise from the ashes of this mess eventually. The Misandry Bubble has to pop one day, and we'll need something that works for the coming centuries. Will society end up creating a new system that's fairly equitable to both genders as Marriage 1.0 was? Marriage 1.0 as it existed is gone; the conditions you've described in your post cannot be undone.…
/r/TheRedPill13/06/16 04:46 PM
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I'm going to start off by saying I'm legitimately happy for you. You took initiative found some personal happiness. Absolutely nothing wrong with that. I used to know a lot of guys who dealt with the struggle of lack of female companionship, well before TRP was a thing that could have helped them. Escorts would have helped them. That said, consider these words. Fucking beautiful women is the first step. You can cross that off your list, it's no longer the over-valued thing in your head. What you…
/r/TheRedPill10/06/16 02:36 PM
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People rarely take the time to accurately evaluate their worldview until they're forced to. Young men lack the experience to understand the truth of TRP, and women have no incentive. Men who have had a few relationships under their belt typically find RP truths to be self-evident.
/r/TheRedPill09/06/16 02:21 PM
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I don't care what you do with your mother.
/r/TheRedPill07/06/16 08:16 PM
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You're literally talking with yourself here. Your ideas are erratic. You're a rather lonely person, aren't you?
/r/TheRedPill07/06/16 08:07 PM
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If your only course is to find women with the emotional maturity of a child and zero self worth to get there then it seems a little flawed is all I'm saying If I had a nickel for every green-eared schmuck who came here and accused us of this, I'd be rich. You don't understand half as much as you think you do about TRP methods and who they're effective on. They work just fine on emotionally stable, mature women. TRP is the guidebook on what works, period. But you know more than the collective wis…
/r/TheRedPill07/06/16 08:04 PM
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And yet there are 155,000 people who aren't experiencing the problems you are. Consider that the issue may be with you, for once in your life.
/r/TheRedPill07/06/16 07:57 PM
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My mind is not completely opened because this sub has such a closed minded attitude You've spent all of 15 minutes reading this sub and you've decided already that we're closeminded. Now that's irony. How am I supposed to believe in a doctrine that values men over women in general? How about you instead learn what TRP is about first, and start asking the right questions?
/r/TheRedPill07/06/16 07:49 PM
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You've completely misunderstood what I've said, though I'm not surprised since you honestly seem to be here to talk at people, rather than actually understand anything. What you call "games" is merely the complex artform of courtship. You can refuse to play those games, just as one can refuse to play the games necessary to succeed in one's career. Those who do choose to play the game well succeed. That's what TRP is, the guidebook on what works. It's up to you. If you think you've honestly got e…
/r/TheRedPill07/06/16 07:48 PM
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That's exactly what it is. We live in an era where denial of female supremacy is misogyny. This is the place where we have the audacity to consider our own needs before those of others.
/r/TheRedPill07/06/16 07:21 PM
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You can't admit that sounds at least mildly sociopathic? So is keeping your emotions out of the workplace. But one does what one needs to, out of necessity. Women are no more enamored by open displays of emotion than your boss is. Just how it is.
/r/TheRedPill07/06/16 07:15 PM
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Some of the posts here do make sense, but then they go off the deep end This is your brain reacting from the cognitive dissonance between what you've always believed and people presenting opposing views that you can't readily dismiss. It happens to all newcomers who don't come with an entirely open mind. I guarantee you if you ask sincerely you'll get more of that reasoned explanation for anything we believe here.
/r/TheRedPill07/06/16 07:13 PM
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Cohabitation can work, as long as you're aware of the increased challenge and increased risks. You're going to struggle to maintain an alpha frame when she sees you every day, and dread game becomes that much more difficult. If you're a veteran and you know what you're doing, it's potentially worth the risks, especially if you're considering children. Be mindful that in some places (like Canada), cohabitation is for all intents and purposes marriage, and just as shitty.
/r/TheRedPill02/06/16 11:19 AM
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This is actually an important point, and one that describes a key element of female psychology. Women will forgive some beta behaviours, like complimenting her, if your SMV is high, due to the perception that it's coming from a place of sincerity. She won't immediately perceive the behaviour as beta. Note that I say 'forgive'. Enough slips and she'll correct her perception of you as a proper beta. Compassion needs to be meted out in a controlled fashion, lest you develop the perception of being …
/r/TheRedPill25/05/16 01:59 PM
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If you constantly put yourself in a position to take advantage of opportunities, you will be in the "right spot at the right time" sooner or later. That's what "Fortune favors the bold" means. If you're the kind of guy who's chatting and socializing with everyone he can, you will run into opportunities.
/r/askTRP23/05/16 12:31 PM
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Wanting to level the playing field is not trying to benefit from other's successes. That's precisely what it is. You want some percentage of another person's success shaved off and added to yours. Whatever your justifications for it are, these are the goals of democratic socialists. Problems then arise when these people further their own wealth at the expense of the underclass. What problems? You've simply stated "These people are rich and it's bad". Two-thirds of millionaires and billionaires a…
/r/askTRP23/05/16 12:27 PM
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You can't use the outliers to define the norm. The overwhelming majority of people, especially those living in large metros, have ample opportunities to get ahead. Few people actually do what it takes to succeed. It's a matter of hard work and some sacrifice. Almost everyone prefers the easy route. If you spend any amount of time in this sub you'll understand that success is largely within anyone's grasp. Making it big financially is no more luck than scoring with women.
/r/askTRP23/05/16 12:19 PM
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Getting ahead is a large matter of luck No, it's not, and the sooner you abandon this notion the sooner you'll get ahead. People who don't understand systems proclaim the system is unknowable. Ever heard the expression "Fortune favors the bold"? People who are successful put themselves in positions where they will get ahead, one way or another. Once you understand how success is achieved you understand that luck has very little to do with it. Even your examples, such as networking, are not about…
/r/askTRP23/05/16 02:20 AM
6

I support Sanders because I'm more than happy to take a hit to make the system more fair. This is TRP, cut the bullshit -- you want others to take the hit to bring up those on the bottom. You could just donate your upper-middle class wealth, but you want to impose this on those who are unwilling as well. You want the same thing economically that feminists want with regards to power. There's a reason we call it Cultural Marxism. Feminists use the exact reasoning you just did -- to make things mor…
/r/askTRP23/05/16 02:16 AM
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One can absolutely be politically Left leaning and be an alpha. Far too many examples to mention. Being a Sanders supporter is something different though. To be a Sanders supporter you have to believe that you deserve the fruits of another man's hard work, that getting ahead is a matter of luck and that you're owed something, that you're powerless in a system run by the powerful. It's the absolvement of personal responsibility personified. These are not leader-like qualities. The reason why Trum…
/r/askTRP23/05/16 12:52 AM
15

Trump is still one of the best public figures to watch on how to succeed. Financially, socially and romantically. You don't need to adopt his personality, but pay attention to his tactics. Anyone looking to see how a real Machiavellian alpha operates should really study him. There are few people who are as good at creating their own success as Trump is.
/r/TheRedPill16/05/16 03:00 PM
13

Got that backwards. The same faulty brain leading them to think being fat is okay leads them to come up with other retarded ideas.
/r/TheRedPill15/05/16 09:10 PM
35

I always laugh when I hear men, even some RP men, advocate for showing vulnerability in a relationship. It never works out for you. Not in the long run. Displaying weakness is always a hit to your SMV. Sometimes you've got the SMV to keep attraction alive, oftentimes you don't. You never benefit long-term from doing so. Save your struggles for your close circle of confidants and your immediate family.
/r/TheRedPill10/05/16 06:00 PM
11

I guarantee you he's the type of guy who loves getting pegged.
/r/TheRedPill06/05/16 03:28 AM
6

Male feminists are similar to women in that they'll happily spend other men's hard earned money.
/r/TheRedPill06/05/16 03:27 AM
12

Sadly this isn't an option for a lot of men. They can have you terminated from your job with ease for even the slightest whiff of sexism, real or imagined. Remember that we had a guy go to court and almost go to jail because he said some mean things on Twitter. The environment here is different. All the more reason for men to be actively looking for ways to become self-employed, and financially independent. Take away their power to attack you.
/r/TheRedPill06/05/16 03:25 AM
15

I interrupt people when they are boring, stupid, wrong, or wasting my time I imagine you interrupt the overwhelming majority of women you meet.
/r/TheRedPill06/05/16 03:23 AM
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The dangling of blue-pill candy is a known persuasion technique in manipulation circles. You start off by presenting safe, agreeable statements and building trust, then slowly walk the individual to the place you want to take them. You play to people's instinctive biases. Play on people's inherent desires for fairness and equality, and to be seen as socially upstanding. The presentation of a "Purple pill" works because it plays on these biases. It's truly insidious how easily it can take root. P…
/r/TheRedPill04/05/16 04:51 PM
1

I'd argue that's the dominant one, especially among the EC's and top contributors. I know myself and at least two other Vanguards are ENTJ's.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/16 06:36 PM
6

No, not really. There is a significant amount of predictive power with MBTI, something a generic Barnum statement like a horoscope doesn' encapsulate.
/r/TheRedPill24/04/16 05:43 PM
25

The medium matters here. Outing yourself as a TRP supporter has far more negative externalities than positive. But making this place more visible and discoverable to men searching for an answer? Few downsides, if any. Not that I think it'd happen, but if TRP somehow became so widespread that everyone was taking advantage of this knowledge, I can't say that I'd mind such a society.
/r/TheRedPill24/04/16 04:37 PM
16

While it's not TRP's direct mission, some individuals have made it their personal mission to aid as many men as possible. Expanding TRP helps in that regard.
/r/TheRedPill24/04/16 04:34 PM
13

It's only a scam if you can't use heuristics as a guideline. MBTI is a means of providing a rough model of human personality types. As /u/bsutansalt mentioned in his interview, it encapsulates a significant portion (80-90%) of people accurately, even if not 100% so. Understanding how probability works and the degree to which it provides you useful information is an important skill for finding success in life.
/r/TheRedPill24/04/16 04:32 PM
6

Women's natural inclination to trade up. They always have a radar going for a potentially better partner, no matter how good their current partner is. It's rooted in evolutionary psychology, women who kept chasing better and stronger alphas produced stronger children.
/r/TheRedPill22/04/16 05:31 PM
2

As a rule of thumb don't ask questions. It puts you into an implicitly submissive position. Naturally you can't avoid it for all things, but you'd do well to make affirmative statements in lieu of questions where possible. Further, don't ever inflect your tone upwards at the end of a sentence. That's how women talk and it makes you look desperate for validation and safety.
/r/TheRedPill22/04/16 05:21 PM
18

You were a good Beta Bux at a time when she wanted Alpha Fucks. Her rational brain succumbed to the pressures of her lizard brain, as they always do. It's why we say AWALT. She did you a really huge favour by dropping you now, rather than post-marriage. You're out a much smaller chunk of change than had you married and impregnated her. Spend some time reading here. Your self-improvement journey starts now.
/r/askTRP22/04/16 04:47 PM
2

My LTR knows I write here as well. It takes a fair bit of finesse and a large amount of personal value to get away with discussing TRP. When you're high value women tend to see the best in everything you do. For the majority of people learning about TRP it's a terrible idea to discuss it with anyone offline.
/r/askTRP22/04/16 04:24 PM
5

University of Toronto, no less. Toronto is a breeding ground for ultra-feminazis. They literally teach kids to be feminized little twats from an early age. This is the city that gave us Big Red. No surprise this asshat is from here.
/r/TheRedPill15/04/16 03:12 AM
5

I suspect they do enjoy it, it's very much a part of their nature. Comes as easily as Fight or Flight comes to us. They were only conditioned to behave differently in the past. Today, they've had any limiters removed.
/r/TheRedPill15/04/16 03:11 AM
6

We've only slowed down because other subs smartened up and started adding TheRedPill to their automoderator flag lists.
/r/TheRedPill15/04/16 03:08 AM
3

One part I found rather amusing was how he had to defend locker room talk from the vitriol of his progressive peers. Even though this was far from a flattering commentary on TRP, he couldn't find the fortitude to lie to himself about the nature of the way men talk when in the privacy of one another's presence. His colleagues' surprise and indignation was entertaining though. I think you're on the money with the claim that he believes more than he does, but I suspect he's married and long removed…
/r/TheRedPill15/04/16 03:04 AM
2

This right here. They'll play all kinds of mental gymnastics to maintain their illusion that they're empowering themselves while you throatfuck them. Seriously, something about being a rebellious contrarian that makes them open to everything. The more depraved, the better. As long as you do it confidently and in a dominant fashion they will hamster that this is something they've chosen for themselves.
/r/TheRedPill14/04/16 02:42 AM
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Women only tell the truth when they think no one is looking. The hamster can't see all of your eyeballs online, and sometimes forgets.
/r/TheRedPill14/04/16 02:33 AM
2

The funny thing is that a lot of us could simply sit on this knowledge. I know myself and a few other senior guys have very well for themselves. We don't need to be here. We gain nothing by disseminating what we know. It's quite remarkable how people manage to spin that as something they're entitled to.
/r/TheRedPill14/04/16 02:27 AM
1

There's a theory that he's a closeted homosexual and that Deborra-Lee Furness is just his cover. Personally, I can see it.
/r/TheRedPill13/04/16 04:16 PM
1

Her friend's behaviour is one of the most important red flags to watch for, second only to her relationship with her parents.
/r/TheRedPill13/04/16 04:15 PM
2

Getting good sleep the night before and rubbing one out before fucking her are both good ways to help last longer. Failing that, if you're really in a bind look into Viagra/Cialis/etc. For some people it makes them able to last forever after their first shot. Eventually you end up fucking enough women that you stop caring so much and you don't pop so quickly.
/r/askTRP12/04/16 10:30 PM
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Anything that's a 10/10 on the female alarm scale is around a 2/10 on the male one.
/r/TheRedPill11/04/16 06:21 PM
12

Yep. One of the first pieces I wrote here. Religion has been pivotal in getting our civilization where it is, but not for the reason most people suspect.
/r/TheRedPill10/04/16 08:40 PM
3

What you are referring to as love isn't the same as male love. They are wrapped up in the excitement, the validation, the status. They live for this type of elevation of social status. She will be enamored with the person providing these things to her, but only for that provision. Once a man has provided her the wedding, it's curious how that love quickly dissipates. Women want a wedding, not a marriage.
/r/TheRedPill10/04/16 05:32 PM
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Even if you're not attached, and don't care about losing her, why care/love something that can never truly return it? Because it's still rewarding. People love irrationally because it's rewarding. Think of people who buy pet snakes or spiders. Those things cannot love you with anywhere near the same capacity, but people develop emotional connections all the same. Just accept that it can all end at a moments notice and find peace with that, and you'll do fine.
/r/TheRedPill10/04/16 03:17 PM
2

You'd get more help on AskTRP, but the short answer is that it doesn't really matter. I'm not white either. You need high value, and being ethnic is only a tiny knock against that. Asian guys who are fit, have game and some social status do just fine.
/r/TheRedPill10/04/16 03:12 PM
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It's not about purity. The mechanics of love are simply different between us. Male love is wholly irrational and intentionally intoxicating. We're designed to irrationally stay with our partners for evolutionary reasons. Women have no such mechanisms. Their biological reality plays out differently.
/r/TheRedPill10/04/16 03:10 PM
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Women want marriage because of the status and validation. Use some critical thought here; women are far more excited about the particulars of a marriage than the person they are marrying. They literally plan the weddings in their heads before they meet the person they marry. You're at that crossroad. Challenge your pre-existing ideas, or run back to safety.
/r/TheRedPill10/04/16 03:08 PM
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For an LA girl? 2-3 at best. Any of you kids who haven't been to Long Beach need to add that to your bucket list.
/r/TheRedPill09/04/16 10:37 PM
11

You eventually come to grips with it. False expectations lead to disappointment down the road.
/r/TheRedPill09/04/16 08:58 PM
21

I went indifferent on her. Focused on the show. She tried her faux-indignation act, didn't talk to me for a bit. I just acted like nothing was the matter, because it wasn't. A good way into the show she started getting into it and we were singing our favourite songs towards the end of it. She just needed time for her emotions to play themselves out. They really do behave much like children. That said, she did try to weasel the topic into conversation the next day in order to eke an apology out o…
/r/TheRedPill09/04/16 07:02 PM
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They don't actually want his love. They want the validation and the shared value that comes with it. They want what his saying "I love you" represents. They don't actually care for his love. A high value man's love by itself isn't worth anything to women.
/r/TheRedPill09/04/16 05:38 PM
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Touching on the same point, this works incredibly well if you run into a non-toxic ex while you're with your LTR. I ran into an old plate at a concert I went to with my LTR. We chatted, got caught up, had some laughs. LTR was furious. Angry with jealousy. Full of "How could you"s. Bonafide pissed off. Fast forward a few hours and she's more attentive than she's been in weeks. Sex quality off the charts. Doesn't matter what a woman says, pre-selection always results in an attraction bump.
/r/TheRedPill09/04/16 05:03 PM
11

You know what the number one commonality male charlatans and hucksters have in common? People who lie and swindle others for a living. I'll tell you -- they're all highly charismatic. When people like what they see, their guards go down. TradCon women are the female version of this. Men who are otherwise RP drop their guards when they see the green flags they like. A few honeyed words and they leave the keys to the vault out in the open. And they get hustled all the same. AWALT. TradCon or femin…
/r/TheRedPill09/04/16 03:09 PM
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My boyfriend is the most accepting, loving, kind person I've met. You can still be this and be a manly man. It's not a bad thing as long as you are genuine about it. That's just a social cover so that she doesn't come across as callous or shallow. Women are good at these kinds of pre-emptive statements, their entire lives revolve around their social image.
/r/TheRedPill07/04/16 08:40 PM
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They only concede the points that still leverage women power. Lift, be more confident, be more funny, etc. The second you suggest having standards or acting in your own self-interest first, you start taking power away from women and that flies in the face of the female imperative. That's literally the only difference between what's acceptable and what's not.
/r/TheRedPill07/04/16 08:36 PM
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They want to normalize low-SMV behaviour as it represents an increase in value for themselves, much like socialism represents an increase in life quality for those living in poverty. I don't doubt that she knows how unattractive being fat is. She's just hoping that she can shame people into compliance because that's easier than getting on a treadmill.
/r/TheRedPill07/04/16 08:31 PM
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No, it's a widely circulated myth that precum causes pregnancy. Unless you have trouble with control, it's an option. You're better off just using rubbers the entire time though.
/r/TheRedPill05/04/16 04:31 PM
0

There's no solid evidence that precum results in pregnancy. It's a non-risk factor. The risk of the condom breaking is significantly higher.
/r/TheRedPill05/04/16 02:38 AM
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Guys, listen carefully. Do not nut inside a woman, unless you've got a rubber on or you've been snipped. Women cannot be trusted with responsibility. Women should not be entrusted to have your best interests at heart. If you need to, fuck her without a rubber and then pop one on right before you need to bust. Gambling with your parental status is just stupid.
/r/TheRedPill04/04/16 05:47 PM
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Never be the one to bring up your concerns verbally. Acta non verba. Simply withdraw your attention, start focusing on other girls. Should she ever bring up concerns about your behaviour, state it as matter-of-fact as you can without sounding butthurt or admonishing her. She's likely going to want to bring you into an emotional argument set in her frame; avoid this at all costs. Deflect and turn her attention to something more fun. If she resists, tell her you have some things you need to take c…
/r/askTRP02/04/16 04:33 PM
2

sex isn't immoral You are introducing morality where none is being inferred. Sluts aren't bad people; they're just shitty partners. They come with a host of issues that make them not worth your time and commitment. They are good for what they are -- easy access to pussy, and nothing more. Note that moralizing is strictly against the sub's rules here, and a bannable offense. Surprised one of the mods hasn't snagged this yet.
/r/TheRedPill02/04/16 04:05 PM
2

You can usually make a second go for it after warming her up. Play with her butthole while fucking her doggystyle. Insert the tip of your index finger while fucking her in other positions. If she's receptive to that you can try your dick after she's sufficiently turned on. Some girls will outright reject all attempts though. Not all of them are into it.
/r/TheRedPill01/04/16 05:11 PM
1

It's an addictive vice that a lot of low-motivation betas get trapped under. Same with videogaming. It trains your brain to seek immediate gratification through dopamine-releasing behaviours. These things aren't conducive to your growth. There's nothing inherently wrong with masturbating, it just needs to be a moderation thing. Once or twice a week, spend the rest of your time you'd have been wasting by developing yourself instead.
/r/askTRP01/04/16 04:56 PM
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Sleep. Get adequate sleep. The heart is like any other muscle, poor ability to replenish itself when your body is sleep deprived. This will give you more immediate benefits than any cardio routine. For the actual cardio, go swimming. Easy on the body and joints, very heart-intensive.
/r/askTRP01/04/16 01:33 PM
3

Everything you've said is true. That said, like all aspects of life there are tradeoffs. Asian women are unabashedly hypergamous and materialistic, but at the same time their culture often forbids entertaining thoughts of divorce. It's literally a non-option as it creates enormous shame on the woman, something that's unacceptable in Asian "face" culture. Cultural Asians are the least-worst of all demographics to get into a long-term relationship with.
/r/TheRedPill30/03/16 02:41 PM
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Women will always test the limits of your boundaries. For every inch you're willing to accede, that's an inch she's more than happy to take. Women are only as shitty as you let them be.
/r/TheRedPill29/03/16 10:31 PM
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Women have all the tools necessary to legally fuck you over in Western society. Quite literally the only thing stopping them is fiat. No reason to play with fire if you don't have to.
/r/TheRedPill29/03/16 05:12 PM
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There's a common misconception that the women that end up destroying men have obvious tells; that they're visibly broken in some way that with sufficient diligence you can catch before they cause harm. The reality is quite different. All women have the capacity to do this. Time causes circumstances to change. Never get married.
/r/TheRedPill29/03/16 04:56 PM
22

That entire thread could be summed up by the "Pointy knees, would not bang" meme.
/r/TheRedPill18/03/16 06:37 PM
1

Either uphold your morals and lose the game, or play the game and win. Those are your options. Can't make the decision for you. Pragmatism means sometimes taking the least bad option.
/r/askTRP18/03/16 04:18 PM
10

Their advice for women amounts to "Go for the opposite of things that trigger your sexual attraction" Great advice. Let's see how effective that is.
/r/askTRP18/03/16 04:11 PM
27

I'm proud, son. That was some grade-A blackknighting. You're going places.
/r/TheRedPill18/03/16 03:49 PM
0

His value with respect to TRP is in his behaviour, not his book. He is a great, real-world example of how to dominate a crowd using charisma. Regardless of your politics there is a lot to be learned by observing him.
/r/TheRedPill08/03/16 11:14 PM
1

Cover letters are 80% for HR staff. You literally want to connect the ideas. It's all they're looking for. Same with your resume. Literally use the same skills wording they use, word-for-word.
/r/TheRedPill19/02/16 01:54 AM
1

Your cover letters need to convey the same fact. It's a little harder, because you're operating from a position of weakness, as you're trying to convince them they should want you, through written words alone. Your cover letters should absolutely contain no begging-type language, no language that indicates desperation. It's fine to be eager, but only in the sense that you already know you're a great fit and you really want them to know it. Example of a good sentence: "You're looking for someone …
/r/TheRedPill19/02/16 01:43 AM
1

Because you are asking for men to take all the personal responsibility and accountability into their hands, and absolve women of it. Adult women aren't children. Society has dictated that they get treated as equals with men, so that means taking the same level of responsibility. If a woman does not want to get taken advantage of in a drunken state, she should be careful where and with whom she drinks.
/r/TheRedPill18/02/16 06:49 PM
1

In my experience they don't really have much guilt. More in line with "Don't tell my boyfriend, he'd be really upset if he found out". Like, bitch really?
/r/askTRP17/02/16 05:21 PM
10

I wrote about this some time ago. It's unsurprisingly one of the most controversial posts here in TRP. You're somewhat close, but you left out the crucial element -- the man raping ravishing her needs to be an apex alpha. A man so attractive so as to be unattainable. For such a man to lose his restraint to have her signals her own value and gives her the biggest spike of validation she could ask for. You're not wrong. Ignore some of the hate, TRP isn't a place that shies from uncomfortable truth…
/r/TheRedPill17/02/16 05:13 PM
1

The analogy is that it's a locker room, not that it's literally filled with jocks. Though they too make up some portion of the demographic here.
/r/TheRedPill11/02/16 04:25 PM
44

TwoX is simply a game of who can out-victim the other. 1 upvote = 1 validation. It's even more skewed than the regular extent to which women crave validation, since there's little to no social stigma in TwoX for trying to blatantly validation-whore, unlike in real life.
/r/TheRedPill10/02/16 05:36 PM
1

I love it. The sheer vitriol that one post has produced has been rewarding, to say nothing else. Naturally, I'm not the actual target of that email, it's the BP schmucks that they're trying to monetize. My post simply serves as an easy polarizing point.
/r/TheRedPill10/02/16 05:22 PM
12

People really don't like hearing this advice. Gaming is painfully hard to give up. It's perfectly cocktailed to drive modern men to addiction. You can get so much shit done when you give up gaming, or even just reduce it substantially. Clocking 100 hours in a game isn't hard. Putting 100 hours into a new skill is somehow seen as daunting. And yet the rewards are vastly different.
/r/TheRedPill10/02/16 05:15 PM
5

Good capitalists know to fill in demand to make a profit. I don't personally fault someone from making a legal buck. The old adage is always relevant, if it's too good to be true it probably is. No shortcuts in life.
/r/TheRedPill10/02/16 05:11 PM
6

Women absolutely crave mystery in their men. The more you pull back the curtain the more she'll find herself unimpressed by the naked man she sees underneath. Stay mysterious. Only talk when it's socially in your benefit.
/r/TheRedPill03/02/16 09:11 PM
2

I wrote an article recently that touched on the important of accumulating money as a means of expanding your power. In cases such as these you can easily turn things around if you have enough disposable cash lying around for legal fees. Use progressive laws against progressives. Progressives are remarkably myopic in their thinking, they never account for how these things can backfire. With a successful ruling you can indict Google to remove those photos. It's not a guarantee but it's a possibili…
/r/TheRedPill02/02/16 03:56 PM
7

In LTR's, especially ones of greater length, you'll likely need to spend a small token amount here and there to keep things going. The important thing is to treat them like the rewards that they are, and never spend more than a nominal amount of what you have. Don't drop a dime on plates. Ever. Small, nominal amounts pooled into a savings vehicle accumulates faster than most people realize. It's the smartest thing you can do as a man in your early-mid twenties.
/r/TheRedPill02/02/16 03:34 PM
1

TRP never claims to have a model that 100% describes reality. It's a heuristic; it describes the majority cases, the most common and likely scenarios. There are of course outliers, and over time the model adapts slightly to account for them. "TRP is immune to criticism" is simply a cheap attack on the part of TBP for lacking any substantive answer to the fact that TRP is a model.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/16 08:11 PM
3

The male experience that results in waking up RP differs from the female one. RPW discover that there is an active component in achieving their goals and that it's not up to fate and that their actions matter. Men discover that they've been living a lie for decades. Not just a lie, but a pernicious one designed to keep them as useful tools in a woman's long-term mating strategy. Guess which one is going to be angrier?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/16 08:08 PM
8

Spot on. My experience was identical. The second you change your behaviour you get the scorn of your female peer group, but simultaneously their attraction. Good trade.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/16 07:54 PM
3

Nearly all human behaviour has some root in evolution. We're highly complex, but somewhat predictable organisms.
/r/askTRP29/01/16 07:32 PM
7

Men historically effected change in his surroundings with power and brute force. The strongest male wins, takes resources, procreates, has strong sons. Women never had this luxury. Evolution favoured women who could effect change using men's power. This is why they're naturally good at manipulation. This is why they're so comfortable with lying. They had to be.
/r/askTRP29/01/16 05:23 PM
1

That doesn't seem to detract from OP's point, nor does he seem unaware of that.
/r/TheRedPill29/01/16 04:03 PM
2

The only real discernible benefits are from the increased discipline and increased time and motivation to pursue other tasks. Jerking off 4 times per day just because you're bored is a surefire way to train your brain to chase after instant gratification at the soonest opportunity. Moderation is key. Less is better.
/r/askTRP27/01/16 05:57 PM
2

That's possibly a justification for their continued existence, but not the reason for their initial presence and growth to power. I work in IT, have dealt with many tech startups. If there's one thing in common with the tech startup scene, it's that it's overwhelmingly dominated by low-testosterone, mewling beta men. Guys like this guy. They eat up the feminism scene because they're the type of thirsty beta that's willing to do anything for some of that female validation. The reddit admins are e…
/r/askTRP27/01/16 05:54 PM
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Marriage largely restricts your ability to apply dread. Even if you're vastly ahead of her in terms of SMV. A divorce isn't the worst thing for a woman. She gets cash and prizes, the kids, and there's no longer any real social stigma for it. Dread works best when you're in a position to walk. Marriage completely takes that away from you.
/r/TheRedPill26/01/16 02:22 PM
5

I tried a variant of this. When we were at about 2 months in, I grabbed her phone casually and asked "Hey, what's your password?". She gave it up willingly. Good litmus test.
/r/TheRedPill26/01/16 02:14 PM
8

There is no such thing as equal control. One party always has more than the other. Just so happens relationships are more stable when that person is the man.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/16 08:46 PM
1

Read the article -- people who have not been charged with crimes. Not sex offenders. Lay off the drugs.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/16 07:58 PM
2

I love how you immediately gravitate towards weasel words and reframing the scenario. It's like you can't help it. Our society believes in proactively going after sex offenders. Being proactive is good now, right? Perhaps we should make it so women aren't allowed to be with children alone after they give birth. After all, they're almost always the ones that drown children. Our society believes in proactively stopping child drowning. I'm sure you agree. I, and many other people don't have a probl…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/16 06:56 PM
0

Value in this context is the V in SMV -- sexual market value.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/16 03:34 PM
1

Some men? All men. Some men also place a token amount of value on other qualities, but all men find looks to be the majority indicator of a woman's value. This is the mistake that feminism imparts onto women, that they can build their value the way men can. There are some things a woman can do, but for the most part (~85%) your value is based on your looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/16 03:33 PM
17

This right here. Was quite literally the first chip in my feminist leanings as well. Women say they love equality, but absolutely abhor the responsibility that comes with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/16 03:23 PM
5

Did you read the article? The law applies to anyone who the police believe pose a risk -- someone who hasn't actually committed a crime. You're okay with punishing the innocent on the off-chance they might one day be criminals?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/16 03:18 PM
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If you ask a sub full of men who would die for any attention, male or female, whether you should date a dude with tits, one really can't be surprised by the answer. If I was dying of thirst in a desert I'd drink muddy water too. Drink enough muddy water and you get relationshits.
/r/TheRedPill24/01/16 04:53 PM
2

She gets the paycheques no matter how much income she's bringing in. It's a freebie. Only remarrying nullifies it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/16 12:52 AM
2

My uncle used to pay $6948 CAD yearly for alimony. He made double what she did. $5000 USD doesn't sound implausible to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/16 12:44 AM
1

To a degree. There's a point in the future where new dick is valued more than the dick she already has. You need to be really on top of your game.
/r/TheRedPill22/01/16 11:19 PM
18

Modern progressivism is self-destructive. Which given its name is rather ironic.
/r/TheRedPill22/01/16 08:42 PM
2

Sounds like you just need inspiration then. Oftentimes the things you really want to do are things you didn't realize were things at all. Like scuba diving missions to WW2 wreckages. May be worth your while to just try something new just for the sake of it and see where it goes. Especially if it's somewhere that leads you to new people who might help you arrive at your inspiration.
/r/TheRedPill22/01/16 04:21 PM
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There is one critical corollary to this. Women "love" you more the more they perceive your high value, but this "love" is much like water in a leaky bucket. It's continually draining. Your value experiences inflation. Unless you're continually building that value, there is a predictable day in the future when that love completely drains out of that bucket, and where your woman goes is a complete toss up. Worse, some women drain faster than others, meaning that even if you're on an improving path…
/r/TheRedPill22/01/16 03:06 PM
1

You're absolutely allowed to have standards, and checking that they don't have a history that suggests she will derail your future together is just smart.
/r/TheRedPill22/01/16 03:47 AM
4

Depends on the state, but in some places if he involves himself in the child's life knowing that he's not the father, he is considered the de facto father for child support payments. OP definitely needs a lawyer, now.
/r/TheRedPill21/01/16 09:40 PM
2

Now that's a good question. Female happiness comes from actualization as well, but not in the same way that it does for men. Men derive satisfaction from building things, but it's not the same for women. For women, happiness comes from validation, attention, security, respect and having children. A proper endgame for a woman requires her to position herself to be the most desirable prospect in the eyes of a cohort. The best bait, if you will. That cohort could be just a small social circle or th…
/r/TheRedPill21/01/16 09:25 PM
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Recall that feminism is a sexual strategy. Women want men to be maximally attractive while being maximally available as both sperm donors and resource-donors. For any individual woman, this means that Alphas are ideally at the pinnacle of fitness, appearance, dominance, status, etc. while simultaneously relegating any and all power to her. It's the ultimate sexual selection methodology. This is why feminists are always okay with advice like "Go lift. Be confident. Dress well" but not advice like…
/r/TheRedPill21/01/16 07:35 PM
13

If there's one truism that is rarely false, it's that people are inherently self-motivated. When you apply that parameter first and foremost, just about every other detail falls into place. People are selfish at heart, because evolution favoured it. The "why" behind most people's decisions and actions is almost always "because they benefit". Feminism exists not to create a morally superior platform, but because they benefit, societally, financially and sexually. You're right that TRP is the same…
/r/TheRedPill21/01/16 07:05 PM
1

Talking to a lawyer is always a good idea, but simply ignoring people who are out to destroy your life isn't necessarily always the best idea. These are people who want to get you fired, socially ostracised and destitute. You can no more ignore them than you can someone with a gun to your head.
/r/TheRedPill21/01/16 03:18 PM
2

Do you make good money, or great money? Because I guarantee you new doors open up once you make enough. Do you make enough to invest in investment vehicles that earn you passive income? If so, consider shifting completely to that model. Free up your time. What makes you passionate? Do you care about your neighbourhood and social climate? Consider stepping into politics. Do you want recognition and admiration? Start building something. Something grand, something challenging. Something you can sho…
/r/TheRedPill21/01/16 11:28 AM
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Here's some actionable advice for handling SJW's should you ever find yourself in their crosshairs (courtesy of this blog) Rely on the Three Rs: RECOGNIZE it is happening. REMAIN calm. REALIZE no one cares. Much like a large predatory cat people look for cues of weakness before striking. The worst thing you can do is react. Act as if someone told you there are 30 days in most months. Don’t try to reason with them. Reason is the tool one uses to elucidate the true answer to a question. SJW's don'…
/r/TheRedPill21/01/16 12:43 AM
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It's really interesting what conviction does to a person's sense of right and wrong. People will perceive a weak man as a bad person, and similarly view a man with rock-solid frame as a good one. Men who actively write for the manosphere should be prepared for this scenario, as a precaution. We all take measures to protect our identity but sometimes shit happens. Being ready for the worst case scenario makes it that much easier to hold frame.
/r/TheRedPill21/01/16 12:19 AM
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Step one: accept that you're an idiot. Done? Good, on to step two. If someone brings it up, agree and amplify, then deflect. "Hey, remember all that shit you were saying last week about Mr. X's divorce? Can't believe you said that" "Yeah, I hope I never meet his second wife, she'd hate me. Anyhow, have you seen last night's episode of <insert pointless TV show>?"
/r/askTRP20/01/16 06:21 PM
2

It's always a chore explaining things to women. Your employers dictate whether or not your job-jumping past is important, not you. Men get to dictate whether your cock-jumping past is important, not you. Being judged for your past is something that is in the hands of others, not you.
/r/TheRedPill20/01/16 05:51 PM
2

You don't get to dictate that, your employer does. And most would judge you to be a shitty prospect. Actions have consequences, sweetheart.
/r/TheRedPill20/01/16 05:42 PM
2

A man that's exceptionally good at bedding women is an attractive man. A woman that's exceptionally good at bedding men is an unattractive woman. If you have a decorated past of jumping between jobs, no serious employer would take you. Same goes with men and their commitment to slutty women.
/r/TheRedPill20/01/16 05:25 PM
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I don't understand why your post aims to conflate economic theory which in practice leads to a wide array of differing viewpoints with no overall consensus I'm fairly sure that most economists agree that capitalism has elevated more people out of poverty than any other system ever tried, and is universally superior to communism in every way. The specifics of how to best implement capitalism may not be ironed out yet, but that is no failing on capitalism on the whole. The way you've worded it sug…
/r/TheRedPill20/01/16 04:57 PM
2

"I believe in equality/feminism/non-gender conformity" Translation: "I fully expect you to live up to all of the male gender roles because that's what I find attractive, but I don't want any responsibilities for myself. You're also paying for the first date because reasons"
/r/TheRedPill19/01/16 05:06 PM
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Hot chicks often aren't hot. Fastest way to abundance mentality isn't necessarily fucking a ton of sluts, but seeing their faces and naked bodies the next morning. That HB9 suddenly doesn't look that great with her acne scars and droopy tits. Bear in mind that the photos you see of women are the ones they've handpicked to be them at their best. They're not that hot.
/r/TheRedPill18/01/16 02:18 PM
5

He's one of the best non-fictional demonstrations of how to hold frame and power through shit-tests. No one has to take as much shit as a presidential candidate, and the fact that Trump is able to do so is precisely why he's popular. You can still learn from people you disagree with. People gravitate towards alpha charisma.
/r/TheRedPill17/01/16 01:46 PM
3

Men who don't use their "penis" and "locker room talk" as an excuse to dehumanize people Oh come off it Mother Teresa. Or have you never heard women exclaim "Men are such pigs!" Sometimes, just sometimes things aren't meant to be taken literally.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/16 05:19 AM
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Because you lack a penis and have never bantered with another man locker-room style. It's just the way guys talk.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/16 05:08 AM
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I used to genuinely hate women about a decade ago. Actual, unbridled hate. It's nothing like what these guys are going through. These guys are simply frustrated. Men don't spend all their time and energy trying to figure out how to be with someone they hate. They don't spend countless hours trying to improve themselves to receive the attention and respect of people they hate. You're seeing something that isn't there.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/16 04:45 AM
1

You define anger differently than others do. To you "saying mean things about women" is the equivalent of anger. It's commonplace for men to discuss things they dislike without being angry. Just as an example, discussing how a movie sucked doesn't necessarily make you angry.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/16 04:17 AM
5

Hate and anger are two different things. Anger is a useful tool. Hate is something altogether, which you've conflated in order to arbitrarily attack RP'ers.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/16 04:15 AM
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The two aren't mutually exclusive. Girl gets mad at her guy, goes out seeking validation and ends up falling on some other guys dick.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/16 04:04 AM
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Nope. Either she's telling the truth and has enormous baggage that undermines the most important part of the relationship, or she's lying about it for validation. No thanks. Plenty of non-broken girls out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/16 03:54 AM
1

Fantastically happy. There's no way to say this without coming off as self-aggrandizing, but my life is amazing right now. I make good money, my side business is slowly picking up, I've had lots of interesting women in my life, travelled extensively and am planning to have children very soon. I literally can't pick out one thing in my life not going well for me. Contrast that to 20 years ago when I was strongly considering ending my life. If I could bitchslap some sense into my teenage self I wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/16 03:50 AM
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The environment where women were being pumped full of multiple men's semen was responsible for a lot of modern psychological behaviour today. As a fun example, ever wonder why you find female vocalizations during sex attractive? Because it was meant to draw the attention of males in the vicinity so that the local alpha could get his seed in her while she is ovulating.
/r/TheRedPill16/01/16 03:32 AM
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While it's little solace from your vantage point, there are very good reasons for the female inability to value loyalty, devotion and gratitude. These constructs aided male hierarchies, allowing them to become more powerful than the sum of their parts. Uniformity and trust among your male peers was a trait selected for by evolution, as competing tribes without these qualities were simply eradicated. Women however had no such developments. For them to sink investment in a product that no longer p…
/r/TheRedPill15/01/16 11:55 PM
1

You don't have to be smarmy about it. You simply spend more time and focus assessing them than the other way around. Subconsciously this gives you confidence while simultaneously signaling that you're high value. People pick up on these things without even realizing it. Do yourself a favor and stop worrying about looking like a douche. "Assholes" and "douches" are just people who prioritize themselves, and they get further ahead in life than people who aren't willing to impose themselves.
/r/TheRedPill12/01/16 07:34 AM
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AWALT. We don't just say it to shit on women. Thing with women is they're actually pretty clever at hiding their faults, at least initially. Takes a little bit of stress to bring out their childish behavior. I'd sooner expect a genuine apology from Kim Jong-Un's dead father than Lucy-types. They never seem to learn either.
/r/TheRedPill12/01/16 07:16 AM
1

Shoot me a PM and let's talk. EDIT: Got your pic. Here's my advice: Let's get the good news out of the way first. You're not ugly at all. Got that? Good, let's move on to the meat of it. For starters, look into some basic aesthetic improvements. Look up advice regarding skin care. Here is one such post on TRP, but you don't have to limit yourself to it. Your hair is boring. Look at these guys for inspiration: Hair Style #1 Hair style #2 Hair style #3 Lose the goatee, get some even, light facial …
/r/askTRP07/01/16 05:31 AM
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Despite his failings, Mystery has always been a role model for me. We shared similar paths. Guy lost his virginity at 20 and went on to become one of the most prolific PUAs. Good-Looking Losers are often the ones best situated for figuring out game dynamics. They get chances to re-enter the SMP easily after screwing up and try to correct for past mistakes. Over time they develop the heuristics that eventually become the core theory. He's basically the Freud of modern sexual socio-psychology. It …
/r/TheRedPill07/01/16 05:27 AM
3

No, guys orbit because they have no other choice They do have a choice. Approach and potentially get rejected. And a lot of reasons they are forced to orbit is because they are creepy. Precisely backwards. They're labelled creepy because they're orbiting. Sycophantic behaviour is unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/16 05:15 PM
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In fact, a reason a guy may orbit instead of getting that ONS can sometimes be because of a lack of trust That's not why guys orbit, at all. They orbit because they do not want to come across as aggressive, and because they feel there's a high risk of rejection without first building up rapport. In essence they're hoping to build that trust that will easily transition them into a relationship. They'll literally doing what you're outlining they should do.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/16 04:45 PM
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By helping men who are not "natural alphas", it makes individual lives better... but in the long run, the male of the species will become more naturally beta, as men who would otherwise have been shut out of the breeding process manage to finagle and trick their way into getting pussy It helps if you frame the conversation in terms of goals. Ideas are only flawed in relation to their goals. You can make the argument that modern medicine fails to make people healthy by breeding more unhealthy peo…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/16 04:42 PM
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There is no "best" evolutionary strategy But there are optimal ones. In the presence of selection processes (like starvation and danger) optimal strategies play out better over time, resulting in their propagation. In that way there are several strategies that end up being "best" (i.e. better than other strategies) Modern mating isn't subject to many selection processes, so there are many "bests". This conversation is more helpful when looking at it from the lens of ancient times.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/16 04:37 PM
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If you want a woman to sleep with you, she needs first to trust you Because women never have one-night stands. Because nice guys who spend months secretly seeking approval from women they're orbiting get laid much more than alphas who do nothing to chase women. Your post doesn't align with any parts of reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/16 04:32 PM
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I don't buy that. Status trumps race. Status trumps all. I think perhaps OP was using hyperbole to demonstrate that being white in itself is an increase in status. An Asian man has to raise his status through various other channels to be on the same footing. The rest is as you say. Race is a minor handicap at the very worst, an easily overcome obstacle.
/r/TheRedPill06/01/16 04:26 PM
1

You literally can't, if I recall correctly their automoderator strips any mention of TheRedPill.
/r/TheRedPill06/01/16 04:00 PM
1

God what I wouldn't pay to watch a reality TV show of your life Get yourself a subscription to pornhub, close enough approximation.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/16 04:13 AM
1

You are spouting the same common talking points repeated ad nauseum on r atheism. Stop. I used to post there for years. I'm not unfamiliar with them. I'm a life-long atheist. You're missing the key element of religion. Consider this. Why do you think all successful nations were religious up until very recently? If you consider yourself intelligent then I expect you can come up with an intelligent answer for that.
/r/TheRedPill05/01/16 09:21 PM
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You're looking at it from a very limited angle in an emotional manner. Yes it had detrimental externalities. The positive upswing is civilization as we know it. It literally would not have occurred otherwise. There are many reasons to find religion abhorrent, but that makes it no less integral to our creation of modern society.
/r/TheRedPill05/01/16 09:07 PM
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I won't be part of your sick pedo fetish.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/16 08:49 PM
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I can't wait to read your next entry "TRP fuccboi negged me, I'm still drying myself off"
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/16 08:35 PM
6

Sure it works to get any girl, but it doesn't work on every girl. And never have we claimed that it did. It works on most women, which is pretty good as heuristics go. You and I have similar backgrounds. TRP (and by extension, PUA) works on a very large segment of the female population. The ones it doesn't work on are usually undesirable to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/16 07:11 PM
2

Good for you. Lots didn't. Some kids who were diddled when they were young turn out fine too.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/16 06:34 PM
5

Funny, all these girls born in the 80's are still consider teenagers now? Guess I missed that memo.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/16 06:29 PM
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You have to understand that they don't interact with average women True but with young hot girls Also true Regular girls are invisible to them You misspelled 'ugly girls'. They don't care about her personality all that much so they end up with more girls that have no or a shitty personality. Partially true, we don't give a fuck about the personality of one of our plates, so long as they're tolerable. Those of us in LTR's very much do care, however. In fact, it's the defining element that separat…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/16 06:28 PM
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You as a woman confirm that men following BP advice regularly get laid. Cute.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/16 06:22 PM
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Naturally, with the advent of the internet it's mostly impossible to maintain the indoctrination model anyhow. That said, people are still brought up under this system, which worked perfectly fine up until just a few decades ago. It's rather pointless to disparage people for it.
/r/TheRedPill05/01/16 03:09 PM
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Read my post. I've laid out the mechanism by which we transformed tribal lifestyle into civilization. That doesn't happen organically. You need to disrupt asymmetric assortive pairing to ensure that it happens. The only way we've ever accomplished this was through indoctrinating forced assortive pairing as a dominant sexual strategy for both genders.
/r/TheRedPill05/01/16 03:04 PM
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If a bad thing happens in a forest and no SJW's are around, are you still required to call a white person a shitlord?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/16 05:02 AM
3

Wrong there champ. Some of us are pretty aesthetic. We just sucked with social interactions because we were given a shitty script without any intervening male influence.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/16 04:32 AM
1

I regret to be the one to inform you but you might be a lesbian.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/16 04:28 AM
1

It just shows that even in the church, the Feminine Imperative is alive and strong. Not entirely. The church is merely enforcing the male half of the marriage contract that built society. Bear in mind that when the bible was written the contractual obligations of women were taken very seriously. In the modern era churches still attempt to enforce both halves of the marriage contract, but women simply refuse to uphold their half because it's not societally limiting nor punishable any longer.
/r/TheRedPill05/01/16 04:19 AM
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Regardless of its veracity, religion was integral in building civilization as we know it. Without the channelled productivity of betas there would be no society beyond the tribal hunter gatherer system. I wrote about this a long while back. Religion was necessary.
/r/TheRedPill05/01/16 04:16 AM
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We've seen this story play out. He'll be happy for as long as she can hold her nose at being with a beta. A period of months, a few years tops. You can tell she's convinced herself in her first paragraph that she's finally found the "right" guy after a period of dating "assholes". You can't negotiate attraction. No person, man or woman, can go decades without sexual satisfaction unless they're asexual. She'll eventually get annoyed by his behaviour and start lashing out, bit by bit. It'll culmin…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/16 08:31 PM
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Exactly this. Some of us were former feminists. Finding out it didn't work or make us happy is precisely what made us ex-feminists.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/16 08:17 PM
1

100% yes. How many things would you like to do today that you're simply unable to, due to lack of means? Power brings happiness, because it gives you options. Even if it's your goal to be generous in life, you can't do that until you're in a position of power. The last $50 in your savings account aren't going to help anyone. Bringing in half a million a year, there you can start to make real changes.
/r/askTRP04/01/16 08:13 PM
3

I don't understand this about the Red Pill: how is a guy (me for example) supposed to be capable to spin plates if the sexual market is so broken? Because within TRP you have tools at your disposal that are hidden from the vast majority of society. You have the playbook on how to get into the top 20%. Merely making an effort to get there puts you far ahead of most as it is. It's not actually that hard to get into the top 20%, unless you're starting with a massive handicap.
/r/TheRedPill04/01/16 02:27 AM
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More than one half of the women agreed that nice guys have fewer sexual partners, however, more than one half also reported a preference for a nice guy over a bad boy as a date. The former is socially acceptable, whereas the latter isn't and triggers the hamstering. Reality isn't as important to women as maintaining a positive social image. Women's words are worthless, listen to their actions.
/r/TheRedPill04/01/16 02:22 AM
1

It was actually a meta study of 33 studies. My experience is similar to yours, I'd peg the number at closer to 50%-60% based off my experience, but it's worth remembering that our sample size is dwarfed by that of these studies.
/r/TheRedPill03/01/16 12:19 AM
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It's rather unfortunate that the manosphere is still divided in terms of the advice they give regarding vulnerability. I'm looking chiefly at Mark Manson and his conclusion that vulnerability can be used positively. I flatly disagree. It works the same way that juggling chainsaws sometimes impresses women. It's an incredibly stupid thing to play with and consistently expect results. Women are extremely well adapted to identifying weakness in her mate. A mate that couldn't protect himself was one…
/r/TheRedPill02/01/16 04:17 PM
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Rawdogging isn't going to get a girl pregnant unless you cum in her. The odds of pre-cum making a girl pregnant are lower than the failure rate of condoms. A lot of creampie porn is faked. The real ones aren't typically the famous guys.
/r/askTRP02/01/16 03:49 PM
3

Boston, Austin or Seattle are better if you care about tech. Similar tech presence, less SJW retardation. Though I hear Austin is getting worse these days.
/r/TheRedPill02/01/16 12:52 AM
3

Good Korean and Persian food? Not a lot else. The only people who enjoy living there are those who've never experienced anything else.
/r/TheRedPill01/01/16 08:23 PM
4

Marriage isn't as much of a problem if you point a gun at her head too. Alright, you'll get your cash and prizes but society will literally treat you like the scum you are. Funny how that was the only thing keeping them from filing papers historically.
/r/TheRedPill01/01/16 08:20 PM
2

Successful blacks tend to lean right too. Their wealth is probably the easiest way to guess their political allegiance.
/r/TheRedPill01/01/16 08:18 PM
1

So you agree with the concepts, but not how they're worded. TRP doesn't care for the tone of the message, just the message itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/16 07:08 PM
1

Dread game, AWALT, treat women as you would children, don't be afraid to soft/hard next, treat yourself as number 1, abundance mentality, just to name a few.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/15 11:55 PM
1

If you walk into a classroom with your mind already made up, you will learn precisely nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/15 09:22 PM
1

That's a bit of a spurious question, by definition anything that you don't see as mainstream is considered misogynist. It's a tautology.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/15 09:04 PM
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Male love is more irrational than altruistic. Men will often tolerate the worst from women before cutting her out of his life. Women can afford to lose a significant amount of SMV and not be abandoned. Part of the reason why divorces are initiated by women 70% of the time.
/r/TheRedPill31/12/15 07:15 PM
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Not quite an alpha widow, that refers to a woman whose pair-bonding mechanism is ruined by having her status artificially inflated in her head by past successes. She was never with Alex Turner the frontman, she was with Alex Turner the regular schmo. She just regrets her past decision making.
/r/TheRedPill31/12/15 06:34 PM
11

Have you ever seen women in a fight? Men will throw a few fists then walk it off shouting a few expletives at the other guy. Women actually try to kill their opponent in a frenzied rage. They're like feral wolverines. A woman who gets her fee-fees stepped on is pretty fucking terrifying when she has an entire nuclear arsenal at her disposal.
/r/TheRedPill31/12/15 05:13 PM
2

Facts perpetuate the patriarchy, as you know.
/r/TheRedPill31/12/15 05:04 PM
3

Women will always cheer men sacrificing themselves for their own betterment. White knights cheer the same behaviour because it reinforces their beliefs that self-sacrificial behaviour is rewarding. Maybe he reacted out of instinct, but from a rational perspective he did nothing to improve anyone's life, at great personal cost. I'd call him an idiot too.
/r/askTRP31/12/15 05:03 PM
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Naturally he doesn't. Nothing kills oneitis faster than true abundance. The noteworthy aspect is that she developed the female equivalent of oneitis: inescapable attraction to a man's value. Had he become Alex Turner the successful accountant her thoughts today would have been "Alex who?"
/r/TheRedPill31/12/15 03:24 PM
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“It’s mad seeing your school boyfriend become a worldwide star. I just wish I’d treated him better.” Women don't love you, they love your value. This chick hasn't spoken a word to him in a decade, yet here she is harbouring feelings for him. If the band were to break up and Alex were to go broke again you can bet that she'd disappear in heartbeat. Be wary of a woman's honeyed words. They never, ever mean anything more than what she's feeling in that moment.
/r/TheRedPill31/12/15 02:31 PM
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It's important to note that the term "asshole" here is largely defined by women. When women throw around terms they aren't using an objective definition, they are using it as a descriptor of how they feel. "You're an asshole" doesn't necessarily mean you're an asshole when a woman says it, it means that she's feeling frustrated by your actions. When a man prioritizes himself over others and defines clear boundaries for himself, women lose a lot of power over him. Women who are used to bullying a…
/r/TheRedPill31/12/15 02:25 PM
18

You should've seen my inbox the day I posted it. Don't think the Westboro Church has even seen so much hate.
/r/TheRedPill31/12/15 01:33 AM
1

There was a thread the other day where we covered this.
/r/TheRedPill31/12/15 01:31 AM
42

I wrote about this topic in the past. Most women have some form of latent rape fantasy. 50 Shades of Grey outsold any given Harry Potter book. Women say one thing, but their actions suggest another. The curious part of all this is the fact that there's a strong genetic component to it. Only 25% of women can orgasm from penetrative sex alone, yet experts state that anywhere between 10%-50% of rape victims orgasm. This is one of the darker sides of female sexuality that you'll never see them admit…
/r/TheRedPill30/12/15 09:21 PM
1

For all their talk of privilege, it's really amazing how little women give deference to their own. Being absolved of responsibility for nearly everything you do would be pretty fucking fantastic. I'm curious to hear the spin feminists put on this one.
/r/TheRedPill30/12/15 04:46 PM
1

It's interesting that you bring up celebrities as an example. There is a reason why they get off scott free for many egregious crimes (like DUI's) whereas another individual would face serious jail time: value. Celebrities have high value, and bring value to society (whether or not you agree that they should be valued is irrelevant). When your value is high, people who have a vested interest in your continued success will do what they can to catch you when you fall.
/r/TheRedPill30/12/15 04:42 PM
1

Is she actually an LTR or a plate? It's fine to tell your LTR you love her, so long as you weren't the one who said it first and she's actually a long term partner. If she fires it at you in the first few months give her an amused mastery line instead. Never tell your plates you love them. Pointless.
/r/askTRP30/12/15 04:35 PM
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You need to learn to be witty and punch back a bit. It's how male social hierarchies are formed. We test each other's strength to ensure the unit is cohesive on the whole. Something like this: they see a dog they say go eat it "Nah, I prefer pussy. Your mom's, especially." You need to gauge what level of civility to employ based on the group, but it sounds like yours is a fairly close, casually speaking one.
/r/askTRP30/12/15 04:21 PM
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China, Hong Kong, Japan and Korea mostly, from my experience. Very, very strong social pressures not to be fat. They exist, but they're exceptions to the rule. HK girls have started buckling this trend in the past decade though. They're becoming Westernized more rapidly than the other ones.
/r/TheRedPill30/12/15 02:13 PM
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Korean girls, man. Gorgeous faces, but body of a 10-year old boy. Chinese/Taiwanese girls are where it's at though.
/r/TheRedPill30/12/15 02:11 PM
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My city has both, and they've very easily differentiated. Imagine the good little church girl without the religious hangups.
/r/TheRedPill30/12/15 02:08 PM
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It's a shame you didn't put more substance into your post, because there is some meat here. Some cultures lend themselves better to LTR's than others. Asian (specifically Chinese and possibly Phillipino/Thai) culture greatly promotes traditionalist attitudes that make commitment harmonious. They all have traits in common, the core of which is that women have a role in a relationship and deviance from it is tantamount to social suicide. You may want to rewrite this and cover those elements. A lot…
/r/TheRedPill30/12/15 02:06 PM
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You're being disingenuous here and you know it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/15 06:51 PM
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They're free to select the parts they want, but TRP has core elements that define it. It's no different in other areas; one wouldn't be respected as an evolutionary biologist if they questioned evolution. This post is clearly for actual RP'ers.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/15 06:50 PM
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The problem is inherent in the dynamics of a friend relationship versus those in a love relationship. If you read the original piece, he describes how the relationship dynamics fall apart once the man starts placing a woman on equal footing.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/15 06:23 PM
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Not as we've defined it. Not all men desire to spin plates, and those who do often eventually want to slow things down. George Clooney comes to mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/15 06:22 PM
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Not sure where you're getting that notion, it's always described as attraction. The inverse is disgust to sluttiness. The same way women are unattracted to men who are 5'1". The only difference is that men speak about it openly in locker-room environments like TRP. It still doesn't change how it fits other definitions that seem to offend you. Others don't get to define what's true for us. Unless you'd care for men to decide what parts of female sexuality are insecurity.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/15 06:10 PM
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Because women are notorious for being unable to understand an experience that isn't theirs. Women don't understand how chastity can be an attraction trigger because it doesn't exist in them. "Insecurity" is a rationalization for it. That and it's common for women to lash out at things that make them feel bad. Being rejected for your sexual past is probably the easiest way to get the hamster going.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/15 05:49 PM
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Not necessarily, though we may simply be dissecting semantics. There are commitment minded alphas out there. "High beta" as TRP puts it are simply those who exhibit a mix of of beta and alpha traits, with a slight emphasis towards the latter.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/15 05:47 PM
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Wanting a tall guy is insecurity? What about wanting muscular men, intelligent men, successful men? Are those all insecurities? Honestly never heard this line of reasoning before.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/15 05:25 PM
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Come on now Grid, you're not as dumb as some of the rest here. You know that some guys simply prefer chastity the same way chicks dig tall guys. Has nothing to do with insecurity.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/15 05:19 PM
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What you're describing is an idealistic fantasy. Women innately find being pedestalized unattractive. Which makes me sincerely doubt that you're a woman. Probably a bored man pretending to act like one.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/15 05:15 PM
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You already know it is. You have an inkling it's true and you came here hoping to get validation for your behaviour. This isn't the sub for that. Being a gamer works against your social development and wastes time that could otherwise be used to advancing your life and building SMV. Giving up gaming is probably the number one thing you could do for your personal development.
/r/askTRP29/12/15 05:08 PM
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Then you're not really a good candidate for a "Question for RedPill", are you? You admit that your beliefs don't really align with much of the concepts.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/15 05:06 PM
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Not sure where you got that notion. My post history outside of PPD doesn't make mention of any of my past relationships. The Endorsed members are those who typically exhibit signs of having had extensive experience dealing with women, such that they can effectively communicate that experience towards others. That's the commonality that you'll find with most of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/15 05:05 PM
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Interesting, attractive men have options. And those options often preclude being with bitchy, difficult women. This isn't a particularly difficult concept. If you want a man you can talk to, find some friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/15 05:03 PM
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Based on the levels of insecurity Male preferences = insecurity. The feminist brainwashing is everywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/15 04:59 PM
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You do you. If you want a beta that worships the ground you walk on you literally have all of Western society to choose from. Most women don't want that. The women in RPW recognize that and modify their behaviour to attract those alphas.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/15 04:58 PM
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To me, there are very few, true alphas in that sub That has never been a hidden element. A selected few established men guide thousands of aspiring alphas. That's why an endorsed system exists, and why it's constantly reiterated that it's not a democracy there.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/15 04:52 PM
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Maybe in your neck of the woods, but places like San Francisco, Toronto and Portland are feminist havens. You can't really ignore them because they're everywhere, and what you say could potentially be a legal landmine.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/15 04:50 PM
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Given what they look like this isn't terribly difficult to follow.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/15 04:45 PM
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Is this actually what terps believe? The wiser ones, yes. Could this be a reason why so many terps think "divorce rape" is such a problem? No. Divorce rape is a problem because a man can have his life utterly fucked for no reason other than because a woman feels like it. Women never have to enter a similar situation in life and accordingly have no understanding of it. Another question is why so many terps feel like it is a woman's duty to take care of the kids, but on the same breath they are fu…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/15 04:42 PM
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"I'm not an RP'er so let me say something anti-RP on their behalf" wut
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/15 04:39 PM
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Talk about Disney-fying relationships. You can still love your partner without treating her like a best friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/15 04:37 PM
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It's smart for a man not to be trusting yet there must be something wrong with a woman not to have a childlike trust. Guess who has more to lose in a divorce? Further, guess which behaviour is more likely to attract a highly successful, dominant male? Loyal, kind, submissive behaviour, or combative, aggressive and untrusting behaviour?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/15 04:35 PM
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That's more or less the definition. BP is equivalent to mainstream, commonly-held sentiment. RP is the alternative to that mainstream.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/15 04:29 PM
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TRP suggests you do what you want Only when you look at the bigger picture. Do you want to be romantically successful with a large number of women? Because video gaming is detrimental towards that end. Not impossible, but it works against you. If your goal is to simply play a lot of video games you don't really need this sub, do you?
/r/askTRP29/12/15 03:51 PM
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Gaming feeds that need to indulge in immediate gratification, which builds on the short-attention hyperactivity. It literally wires your brain in a way to exacerbate the effects. Had no idea until I gave up gaming and focused more on longer-term rewards. Just something to consider.
/r/TheRedPill29/12/15 03:25 PM
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4 years of your life wasted and a cruel reminder of the branch swinging nature of women All the more reason to get the HoFax from a chick asap if you're thinking long-term commitment. This chump only now discovered that he was a consolation prize nearly half a decade into it. Don't be Billy Beta. Find out her past and judge accordingly.
/r/TheRedPill29/12/15 02:51 PM
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Naturally you don't want to break the illusion for her. Let her believe that she's dating her best friend. It's part of her fantasy. The "Marry your best friend" trope is pervasive because of female solipsism, they naturally assume what's good for them is good for men. They can't really see past the curtain towards male sexuality. You can't date your best friend. If you see her as your equal it's a matter of time before she feels the same way and starts shopping for a superior alpha.
/r/TheRedPill29/12/15 02:40 PM
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Unfortunately it's been repeatedly shown that children require both a father and a mother to grow as functional adults. I'd argue that a lack of father is substantially worse than a lack of mother, but having both is far superior to the lack of either and the science backs this up. In the best interests of your children it's your responsibility to hunt out a suitable mother. Finding one from a foreign country isn't a terrible idea.
/r/TheRedPill29/12/15 02:31 PM
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You're an interesting case, a man with genuine abundance mentality without actual abundance. Naturally when a high SMV chick digs her claws into you you buckle. The whole point of actual abundance is to ward off the effects of oneitis. It's a chemical process in your head, you should know it's going to happen. Your body was designed over tens of thousands of years to behave this way. Seriously, spend more of your time hunting high quality women. Online is a good way to get access to thousands of…
/r/TheRedPill29/12/15 02:24 PM
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Start small. Talk to everyone, not just women. People in line, waiting for the elevator, the cashier, retail staff, etc. Just get used to talking to people. Make it effortless. Once you get there, start going out with the intent of getting rejected. I'd recommend going solo, you're more likely to have hangups about your performance in front of your boys. Just approach women with the intent of talking and asking her out, fully expecting rejection. The goal is to completely desensitize yourself fr…
/r/askTRP26/12/15 02:13 AM
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You don't seem to give a fuck about things that require some thought. Amusing.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/15 04:40 PM
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One doesn't need academic support when someone is describing reality through the lens of their personal experience, and disregarding the realities of others. I grew up with incel guys. Lots and lots of them. They're not guys who were able to lower their standards; they were willing to accept any female attention. No one wanted them, because they were unattractive. This is not the case with women, a woman who lowers her standards will eventually stumble on a man who will take her. Solipsism defin…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/15 04:38 PM
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I honestly don't give a fuck about TRP definitions of solipsism Because you prefer to stay ignorant. Your words are not couched in reality at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/15 04:33 PM
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Brand matters too. If I recall correctly, Durex had the best reputation for not breaking.
/r/TheRedPill24/12/15 04:21 PM
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Sounds like a relationship that fosters friction and tension. In my experience the only guys who put up with that are those that don't have a lot of romantic options. Whatever works for you though.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/15 03:52 PM
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Social interactions are more than just who's right and wrong. Otherwise we'd simply be robots.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/15 03:35 PM
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The current incarnation of Roissy isn't particularly alpha in my opinion, but your logic is flawed all the same. -He spends a ton of time discussing the "art" of picking up women on the Internet with a bunch of desperate dudes. Beta Mentors training their proteges doesn't make them beta, it makes them a leader. He has no ads on his site. He is ostensibly making no money off his effort Neither does The Rational Male. Rollo is pretty damn alpha. A natural alpha actually sounds like a frat boy Huge…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/15 03:32 PM
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There are not enough "blue pill" progressive feminist women who would give non-traditional non-masculine men And there never will be. You can't negotiate attraction. Attraction is biologically driven. Tall, strong, high-status, masculine men will always do better than their inverses. Not that that matters, mind you. Feminism isn't looking to aid non-traditional men. That's not a bug, it's a feature. Feminists want beta men to be available on hand as a source of sexless provision (Beta Bux) while…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/15 03:24 PM
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When it comes down to most incel, nerd guys will look past a smart, even elegant average or below average looking girl You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. This is a particularly egregious example of female solipsism: "This is true for women, so it must be true for men"
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/15 03:20 PM
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It is about the ease, albeit indirectly. Women can have sex on tap, it's always been this way. Being easy signals both low value and the idea that you have another man's sperm in you already. Both are evolutionary dead-end signals. These are mechanisms that would have come about a long, long time ago, likely before we even had language. So "eww, that's gross" is accurate, but overly simplified.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/15 03:16 PM
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Well, there can't be a carousel if there's commitment, because commitment basically stops the carousel from moving. So which is it? This is the fault in your assumption. Look up AFBB -- Alpha Fucks, Beta Bucks. It's the dualistic mating nature inherent in all women. Feminism promotes the female imperative by simplifying the path towards both Alpha Fucks and Beta Bucks. Not all women can reliably get both in the same man, and resultingly the environment becomes one where women can ride alpha cock…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/15 03:14 PM
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Evolutionary mechanisms that gave us differing biology. Most men have slut-aversion as an innate property. Unless we assume that in this hypothetical that we came from a completely different reality than one where women give birth, it'd always be the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/15 03:07 PM
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They do all the time. It just so happens that women from non-Western cultures are also considered. Western women have partner counts an order of magnitude higher than girls from very conservative backgrounds.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/15 03:05 PM
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Be careful with this. Smiling, especially if done eagerly, often signals softness and submissiveness. Smiling is found to be less attractive overall. That said, you can get away with smirks, flashed grins, and bursts of laughter if used sparingly and appropriately. The context of a situation matters a lot.
/r/askTRP24/12/15 02:21 PM
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Certainly. There was an IAMA by a child therapist here on reddit a while back. She states that the number of women who reach orgasm is anywhere from 10% to 50%. Potentially half of women who are raped orgasm. When you consider that it's commonly accepted that only 25% of women are able to orgasm from penetrative sex alone, something clearly doesn't add up. When you think about that, it's mindblowing. The obvious answer is that an underlying evolutionary mechanism exists.
/r/TheRedPill24/12/15 12:12 AM
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Probably the best evidence that not only do BP'ers not visit TRP, they don't visit the RPW sub either. The BP camp has some strange caricatures of what both RP men and women look like.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/15 05:27 PM
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The discussion originated by a comment that suggested that women were oppressed throughout the majority of history, which eventually spiralled into a conversation about gender roles and their necessity. That's how we got here, discussing how those gender roles (culture) were derived from biological realities.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/15 05:07 PM
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Unfortunately there are far too many members who are not at the level of the seniors for that to be reasonably implemented. The sub needs to be a mentoring system first and foremost, and the message as clear as possible. Philosophical debate is a very distant secondary purpose.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/15 05:04 PM
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The point is that most cultural principles (religion, marriage, nationalism, etc) are all rooted in biological principles (evolution and selective pressures). You see very little variance in the adoption of these cultural practices because of their biological roots. That's actually how scientists differentiate purely cultural ideas (like musical aesthetic) from biological ones (liking music in the first place). Is that more clear?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/15 04:53 PM
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No, PPD is the antithesis to TRP. Most of the main contributors, including the mods, have been banned from this sub because their ideas are deemed too toxic. What's discussed here is essentially "TRP-lite", mostly discussed by those who bear ideas that appease non-TRPers. Off the top of my head only /u/Whisper and /u/ciswhitemaelstrom are good representatives of TRP who post in this sub. I can't speak for them, but my involvement here is purely for my benefit. I enjoy arguing and debate for the …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/15 04:50 PM
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In some ways yes, other ways no. Indian culture is still largely patriarchal, which works for them. At the same time the culture promotes men to become providers to showcase their value. In patriarchal environments that works fine, but in the West it simply gets your labelled as a Beta Bux.
/r/TheRedPill23/12/15 04:31 PM
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I wouldn't use the term "moderate" to describe myself. I'm one of the original members of TRP, hence the Vanguard label. If you find me reasonable, presumably it's because I aim to be logically consistent and clear. Most of the men in TRP are not fully developed alphas. That's the purpose of the sub, to aid men who came from beta backgrounds by reshaping them under the guidance of successful mentors. Our Endorsed Contributor system is how one differentiates the mentors from the learners. Most of…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/15 04:29 PM
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Turning down sex with a woman is dividing by zero. It's fucking black-knighting gold.
/r/askTRP23/12/15 04:14 PM
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This requires a lot of time on my part to explain, and I'm not really that invested. However, briefly: In the absence of cultural limiters, women desire sex with the top males as it gets them the highest quality DNA in their offspring, which ensures their own genetic propagation. Evolution selects for this. Men desire sex with all but the lowest quality women, as that gets them the highest chance of propagating their DNA. The net result is a soft-harem model where the most women procreate and fe…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/15 04:03 PM
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A big problem with extremely Liberal cities like Toronto and San Fran is that betas are encouraged to beta it up. Asians and Indians naturally gravitate towards beta behaviour due to their culture. The net result is that they're selectively removing themselves from the dating market of the most attractive women (including women of their own race). Worse, it makes it hard for the few that aren't like that as it strongly pervades the stereotype. I've seen this dynamic as I've been to San Fran and …
/r/TheRedPill23/12/15 03:56 PM
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"These lonely and bored men make fertile recruits for terrorists..." There are no stable societies with an excess of disinfranchised men. It's the basis for why religion dominates every successful culture, which I wrote about here. Religion gives the hapless beta a chance at procreation, allowing you to channel his productivity while keeping him from extremist behaviour.
/r/TheRedPill23/12/15 03:47 PM
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At the same time, I'm not above telling the dumb bitch "let's see 'em then." Literally my first exposure to the fact that luck favours the bold way back in my university days. Simply asking a pierced girl to show it off works more often than it doesn't, in my experience.
/r/TheRedPill23/12/15 03:41 PM
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Ever wonder how so many raped women report experiencing intense orgasms during the assault? Part of our dark history is the selective pressure rape put on female sexuality. Rape was a very real part of our ancestral past. Women who were receptive to it, and could bond with their aggressors and bear his children simply passed on their DNA better than those who resisted and got stabbed after being passed around like a joint. Combine that with the inherent validation seeking behaviour in women and …
/r/TheRedPill23/12/15 03:29 PM
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No. It's a pointless exercise. Race doesn't affect your SMV as much as you think. A minor offset at worst. Harping on it isn't conducive to your development. You literally can't do anything about it anyway.
/r/askTRP23/12/15 03:22 PM
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This lead to them not resenting women and feeling confident in themselves. They don't feel the need to "spin plates" to feed their egos because they already know that women like them--a lot. Mistaken assumption number one: Men don't spin plates to assuage their egos, they do so for sexual variety. Men evolved to want to fuck the top ~60% of women because that was evolutionarily advantageous. The most attractive men are desired by women in the same way that the most attractive women are desired b…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/15 03:05 PM
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There was once a post at PPD from a handsome guy who got laid all the time and sincerely thought that this was because he was so witty and charming Repeating for emphasis. A lot of the guys who come to TRP are actually decently attractive. They got burned in a relationship because they were attractive enough to get into it in the first place, but beta enough to get discarded and heartbroken.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/15 02:52 PM
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It reminds me of Creationist "satire" subs. They're only funny if you're woefully ignorant.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/15 02:49 PM
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What you describe is the absolvement of asymmetrical assortive pairing model. That's a great example, because it demonstrates how it's a cultural element built upon biological premises. Every successful ancient culture had a few things in common. They all had a marriage-like model, they all promoted early and frequent childbirth, and they all promoted in-group preference over the out-group. Do you know why that is? Because these groups out-compete and more successful procreate than groups that d…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/15 02:36 PM
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I believe so, yes. Invest yourself things that people already value. Be a good person, a good wife, a good mother. Be smart, but not combative. Be confident, but not abrasive. Maintain your looks relative to your age. Develop interesting hobbies. Maintain wide social circles and establish a local community. There are many ways a woman can be high value later in life, but they all require work. More importantly, what you choose to invest your time in matters. Being a high-earning career woman or …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/15 02:30 PM
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Yes, sincerely. Not sarcastic.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/15 02:23 PM
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You're right that it was harder for all, but that's not the narrative being pitched by feminists here. They're making it out as if women were universally oppressed and men were the beneficiaries. Outside of the upper echelons men and women both had it bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/15 09:37 PM
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You're assuming that experience correlates with promotion at the same rate for both genders. This assumption is simply false[1] Nope, they didn't control for negotiation. Once that's controlled for the wage gap disappears. Given that women get paid less throughout their lives, You know what? You're not worth arguing with. This is the third time you've brought this up, despite it being untrue -- women are paid more in their 20's before they exit the force. You lack some serious reading comprehens…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/15 09:00 PM
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Absolutely, but you're doing nothing of the sort. You're creating strawmen and rather condescendingly assuming the other's argument is invalid before you've considered it. I see through you and what you're doing, you're not being clever. I'll preface by saying that I've changed my worldview tremendously in the past decade or so, on issues that are normally very polarizing. Liberalism vs. Conservatism, gun ownership, American military imperialism, religion, among others. I'm more open-minded than…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/15 08:55 PM
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It's literally the parent you chose to reply to. You perceived childishness on my part, despite it not being conveyed, and chose to retort in a childish manner yourself. Part of developing maturity is having the introspective capabilities to recognize when you've made a mistake. If you assume the world is out to attack you you're going to see false positives everywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/15 08:52 PM
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Hard for those who don't already understand that to adopt it with conflicting noise. The message needs to be clear for those who are learning.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/15 08:49 PM
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many of them being social This is where we would disagree. Social memes arise from our innate biology. Traditional gender roles were nearly universally the practice in every culture; were it mostly a social construct you'd see heavy variance.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/15 08:47 PM
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Your post smacks of intellectual dishonesty. That you're attempting to be smug about it is slightly annoying. Not much I need to say there, is there? You provided a link showing that the outcomes in the workforce still strongly favor men. Men in senior positions. That is, after women exit the workforce to have kids. Men with more experience get paid more than women with less experience. Women with the same experience aren't paid less. This is fair. So you feel that women are so unfairly favored …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/15 08:45 PM
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Can you cite me anything that suggest that any of these things actually give women, as a whole, enormous advantages over men? I'm rather confused, you don't think that scholarships exclusively for women, college-recruitment programs just for women, and hiring campaigns exclusively for women won't have significant impacts on the success rate of women in the workforce? I should think this is obvious, it's not something that can be studied, it simply follows. This is different from racial benefits,…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/15 08:37 PM
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why not just admit you don't like women? Because it's simply not true, it's only BP'ers who closemindedly can't accept any viewpoint except the one they're invested in. Believe it or not, some of us actually love women, myself included. That doesn't preclude me from speaking candidly about their nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/15 08:30 PM
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You've set up your worldview as one that's closeminded; you're not looking to visit alternate viewpoints, you're looking for validation of your original premise, that we're all misogynists. Nothing I can say will convince you otherwise. You may as well be honest about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/15 08:29 PM
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It started slowly and shifted over time, with concern trolling and tone policing. /u/redpillschool likely saw it all happening in real time. The rules are in place for a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/15 07:29 PM
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It's not that he has views opposed to mine, he has two views that are opposed to each other. My original comment remains unchallenged. Ball's in your court.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/15 07:27 PM
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It then seems obtuse to me that the space could so easily be influenced by 'leftist dialectic' and slowly become another leftist space It has literally happened already. Go look at /r/seduction, compared to what it was 4 years ago. Complete shift in tone and appeasement towards women. "Leave her better than you found her". Fuck me, that shit is supposed to help men? It's a slow subversion that starts with incremental steps. The analogy of boiling a frog in hot water applies here.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/15 07:25 PM
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Women in their 20's out-earn men. Women are favoured for STEM jobs. Women majority in colleges. (Note that this is because of sexist policies, not anything to do with men -- their high school graduation rates are unchanged from 20 years back, whereas female rates skyrocketed) It's not a small advantage. It's not close to equal. The outcomes for men are very negative, increased depression, suicide, loneliness. You keep suggesting it's inconsequential, which tells me you're not open-minded regardi…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/15 07:16 PM
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makes you appear immature. Responds with /r/iamverysmart instead of forming intelligent rebuttals Pot, meet kettle.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/15 07:10 PM
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No, no more than any other sub. There is nothing about TRP that is inherently pro-nationalist.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/15 07:07 PM
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I'm not interested in reading your post history.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/15 04:40 PM
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It's not that he has views opposed to mine, he has two views that are opposed to each other. To have a debate you need to be on the same intellectual footing.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/15 04:36 PM
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You're having some trouble following what I've written and are coming up with some odd interpretations. You mentioned feeling that since there is now roughly an equality in outcomes (for early 20's college graduates at any rate), No, that's the exact opposite of what I've written. Women have a very clear advantage now, in this one area, which puts their overall, female experience at a huge advantage, to the detriment of men. Historically the male experience was on par with the female one. Give o…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/15 04:35 PM
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You've essentially stated that men and women are essentially the same when it comes to foreign aggression, as a counter to your point that it's men that are responsible for foreign aggression. Thinking isn't your strong suit, is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/15 04:13 PM
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Do you feel that you're oppressed for being male? Only in the legislative sense. What does that mean? How can you have equality without equality? You're looking at a localized equality without looking at the bigger picture. When it comes to things like the draft, it's unequal; when you look at the overall male experience things are overall equal, as it's balanced by some of the positive aspects of being male. I'd argue this was true for most of human history, give or take. Throwing a wrench into…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/15 04:12 PM
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I sincerely hope you're able to maintain that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/15 04:06 PM
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It's cute that you think wars exist because of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/15 04:05 PM
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I'm going to be happy in older age, make more money, show off, and prove society wrong You're almost certainly in your early 20's. It's no sweat off my back, but you're setting yourself of for some crazy disappointment down the road.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/15 03:44 PM
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this takes something away from men, and so should be stopped? I believe in equality of opportunity, not equality of outcome. Our outcomes are roughly equal today, give or take. What we have is legislated inequality of opportunity against men. What this implies is that you believe that when women are allowed to compete with men on equal terms, women will outperform men No, it implies that women are given several undue benefits because of the mistaken assumption that they're underprivileged. Femal…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/15 03:42 PM
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That's rather dishonest.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/15 03:37 PM
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The trajectory can be higher as a woman too. No, female trajectory is aimed downwards, it takes a lot to remain valued into older age. Ask any woman here over 40. Money won't bring you happiness. A high IQ won't bring you happiness. You're offended by my words, but work your way past it and you'll see evidence that it's true.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/15 03:37 PM
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Even if it were hypothetically shown that one gender is clearly superior at the task? Imagine you lived in such a world.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/15 03:35 PM
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You're quite amusing.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/15 03:34 PM
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Your Machiavellianism is like an early Christmas gift to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/15 03:33 PM
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It's pretty tiring seeing you guys guess what it's like in TRP without ever visiting the sub. Pretty intellectually dishonest. Wildly racist/nationalistic comments are always downvoted or stripped by the mods. Seriously, make a fake account and talk about how much you hate niggers and wish they would stay away from your white women. It won't last.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/15 03:32 PM
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since now they're only about half of college graduates No, not half -- 40%. 20% less than women. Literally millions of American men displaced because of faux-inequality. apparently earn less than women in one part of their lives The area when they're on even footing. Women only start to make less because they exit the workplace to have children. We give women extra benefits for free, at the expense of men. All under the false assumption that women are inherently disadvantaged. Surely you can see…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/15 03:31 PM
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The vast majority of people manage to date and find love without red pill The vast majority of people manage to eat food and not die, but there's a massive range between "eating well" and "eating poorly".
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/15 03:28 PM
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Relationships depend on so many variables that any guide is automatically flawed "The system is too complex for my understanding, therefore no one can understand it" I see this all the time with my clients and their computers. Things are "random" and "just happen". In truth, nothing about computers is random, it's entirely based on logic, but if you don't understand any of the machinations of the system it appears random. TRP will never make sense to under-experienced individuals.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/15 03:27 PM
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Because equality is nearly always zero-sum. The endless pursuit of forced equality has given rise to this era of screwed up males. Women now account for nearly 60% of all college graduates. Out-earn men in their 20's before they go off to have kids. This takes away from men, without ever acknowledging anything about how women have some things better in life already. We don't need to create generations of unhappy men for an unaccomplishable, idealistic goal.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/15 03:24 PM
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Right and i don't care if they're male or female i just wish people would do what's best for the country to make us prosperous, safer and happier Seems to conflict with your statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/15 03:21 PM
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Otherwise you would not be working to becomes alphas. You figured it out. TRP only exists to get the validation of BP'ers. I thought we did such a good job of hiding that fact under the layers of actualizing happiness and getting laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/15 03:20 PM
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I'm asking for your opinion in my hypothetical world.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/15 03:18 PM
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We have it good in some areas. Worse in other areas. We can never force 100% equality -- I can never give birth to children as a man. Instead it's preferable to acknowledge reality play to our strengths. Forcefully closing one area of inequality doesn't necessarily make things better, as it ignores the areas where things are unequal the other way. Overall there's balance.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/15 03:18 PM
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Yes. You're erroneously assuming I strive for equality -- I don't. We aren't equal and that's fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/15 03:06 PM
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What if that were objectively proven to be men? What if we could definitively show that women were woefully inadequate at doing the things you describe? Would you be okay with 100% male governments, if they were best suited for the goals you laid out?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/15 03:04 PM
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You've got it backwards, TRP'ers see that the world already exists as one where the strong get stronger, and decide that they want to be part of that winner pool. The theory is simply the methodology by which one can get there. your choices, and the results they yield should define you. What are you, if not for the actions you take?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/15 02:57 PM
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I think he means "Not designed to stand up to scientific rigour" which is correct. Science plods along at a snail's pace because they make sure every step forward is absolutely, 100% the correct step (for the most part). TRP's scientific analysis is more akin to pattern seeking and drawing conclusions. eg. Aggregating the advice from entrepeneur millionaires on how to start a business, asking multiple bodybuilders on fitness regimes, etc. Not scientific, but still largely accurate.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/15 02:53 PM
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A lot of low-value, beta men here have said that they wish more women would approach them FTFY. The type of guys who have enough value to be considered attractive by a large section of the female population do not care for women approaching. When women approach, it often signals their low value.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/15 02:49 PM
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I think you're ignoring a few millennia worth of military service. How old do you think soldiers were? No, I I don't care for forced equality. It doesn't serve any purpose since we're biologically differentiated such that we have different strengths. Women aren't suited for the military. Drafting men exclusively makes sense, I simply don't buy the asinine argument that women had it much worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/15 02:47 PM
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STD risk doesn't impact evolutionary mechanisms unless it kills the host before they can procreate and raise their child. Not many STD's are immediately fatal, so there would have been little selective pressure. Having sex with a low-quality male guarantees that their genetics will hit a dead-end and disappear in a resource-scarce environment.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/15 02:44 PM
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What a useless exercise. Unless you're willing to weight each pro and con respectively. Being sent off to die in your teenage years doesn't exactly compare to not being able to buy property.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/15 02:38 PM
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It's cute that you think your opinion of us matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/15 02:36 PM
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No, you've merely assigned a label to someone you don't like, in the usual mentally deficient way most Leftists do. Someone asking that white people be treated exactly like others doesn't make them a supremacist. There aren't any more white supremacists in TRP than there are in the general populace. Logically, there should be fewer since most BP'ers are convinced that white people have life so easy, they're less likely to need TRP than a less privileged race.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/15 02:35 PM
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Feminism is literally the belief that women are so inferior that they need men to make decisions for them. "Change laws for us" "You take responsible for drunken romantic encounters" "Give women more money for nothing so they can catch up to harder working men" Feminism does more to infantilize women than anything ever written in TRP does.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/15 02:33 PM
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It's what TRP is. The path from point A to point B is riddled with angry men, who are justified in their anger. The senior guys mostly see women the same way.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/15 02:30 PM
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If that were true then immigrant Asians would have much lower IQ than whites. We can see that the opposite is true. Racial IQ differences are real. Are you not familiar with the Ashkenazi Jews?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/15 02:26 PM
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Did you forget what life was like for a woman in most societies throughout all of history? Comfortably protected by men, who went off to wars and did all of the dangerous manual labour? You conveniently look to where men were advantaged and ignore all areas where women had such benefits.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/15 02:24 PM
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All of your points are true, and from the perspective of a man anywhere below the median on the SMV curve it seems obvious that being a woman is better. They have a pretty hard glass floor. Except you'd have to give some things up. Your capacity to be valued for something other than your looks, which disappear after a dozen years or so. Your intellectual superiority. Your problem-solving and understanding of reality. Your ability to always improve your life on your own. Your strength, size and d…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/15 02:20 PM
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TRP isn't groupthink, it's a framework with which to create a working model of reality. There is a specific set of immutable principles, much like how modern biology demands that you accept specific truths like evolution. Within that framework there is a lot of discussion and ideas. Not to toot my own horn, but I have some of the most controversial posts in TRP history. There isn't universal consensus, the idea is to push the envelope and see which ideas withstand scrutiny and fact-checking. Tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/15 02:11 PM
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That's not entirely true. There is a specific set of immutable principles, much like how modern biology demands that you accept specific truths like evolution. Within that framework there is a lot of discussion and ideas. Not to toot my own horn, but I have some of the most controversial posts in TRP history. There isn't universal consensus, the idea is to push the envelope and see which ideas withstand scrutiny and fact-checking. That's how we develop the model.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/15 02:09 PM
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Yeah, I'm starting to lose track of these "I've never read TRP but this is what I believe anyway" type of posts. From recollection the EC's are more than a third ethnic minorities, and not just the same ethnicities either. Far more diverse than say, AskReddit which is the epitome of White America.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/15 02:06 PM
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A girl who does none of that potentially still has decent SMV. I'm humouring you when I know it's pointless, as a woman you can't understand anything but your own experience. Don't stress yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/15 08:21 PM
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Not much, unless you consider being born taxing.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/15 08:16 PM
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You're doing a good job proving that women have no idea how much work goes into male SMV. Go ahead though. Bulk up like GLO, spend 2-3 years developing a following based on your well-written and intelligent articles. Should only take you half a decade or so.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/15 08:09 PM
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You'll have to clarify what you mean by "unable", because I've seen some pretty loser guys develop themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/15 08:00 PM
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Because people go out and try the techniques, and they work. That's the reason for TRP's enduring longevity, the advice cuts through the bullshit and simply works. There are also youtubers who apply the theory with success. You can actually watch it happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/15 07:54 PM
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This topic comes up so often I wrote a post about it a while back. It's easy to be a male virgin, but hard to be a male slut. It's easy to be a female slut but hard to be a female virgin. These basic realities create distorted market forces, and affects the demands within that market.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/15 07:46 PM
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GLO has been with the sub for years, giving life and nutrition advice for free, sans shirt sales. You want to discuss trolls, I'm thinking of some much more obvious examples.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/15 07:38 PM
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TRP is a mentoring system of sorts. The vast majority are betas learning what works from a handful of successful alphas. The sub will never be predominantly alphas, that's not what it's for. What do they do after failing to achieve significantly improved SMV? What does TRP tell those guys? They mentor them some more. If you're failing to raise SMV, you're doing something wrong somewhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/15 07:36 PM
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Yep, and going even further, it's the ones who learned how to do it in adult life that are best suited to teaching others. Just like those who learned to speak another language. Natural speakers don't understand which parts are difficult for others, nor are they necessarily good and communicating their knowledge.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/15 07:34 PM
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Being born as a trust fund baby is the easiest way to be rich. There are however, many ways to be rich, some easier than others. Same applies to being sexually attractive to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/15 07:25 PM
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Most men who have persistent relationship and sexual failure are there because they aren't attractive and haven't done what they can to maximize their attractiveness. Many of them don't have a reality-based view of what "attractive" is to most women. Absolutely bang on. Listening to other people offer their interpretations of the incel phenomenon is similar to hearing the ultra religious describe why homosexuality exists. Nonsensical answers like "they were raped by their parents as children so …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/15 07:23 PM
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Barring being wealthy or really famous Why would you bar that? It strictly proves the counter to your main argument: looks alone aren't required to get laid as a man. Really famous people are just the most visible examples of this. You don't get to see the ugly club promoter that has girls sleeping with him just because he's well-known in those circles. They're all over. You can't be simultaneously ugly, low-status and low-wealth. At that point, game only bumps you up a few points.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/15 07:12 PM
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My experience in the IT industry is similar. Couple of things: Be honest Only if you're a terrible liar. Otherwise lie through your teeth. Keep the lies to those that are difficult or impossible to verify. If I find you're lying to me you're not getting hired, but ultimately I don't really care if you have 5 years of experience with Oracle DB's, I just need to know that you can do the job and quickly learn what you don't know. I don't want to hear you say it that way, because that's code for "I …
/r/TheRedPill21/12/15 06:15 PM
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Same way you do it with women, by maintaining a demeanour that appears at ease and unassailable. Don't react in a spazzy or erratic way. The kind of thing you get from genuine abundance. When you go to interviews, you want to adopt the mentality that you're doing them a favour by getting a chance to speak to you. You're a hot commodity and your interviewers are getting a chance to snag you. Doesn't matter if that's true, you play your strengths in your head and convince yourself of the fact.
/r/TheRedPill21/12/15 06:07 PM
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You're misunderstanding what "invisible" means in this context. It means invisible romantically.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/15 04:28 PM
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The most damning evidence was the OKCupid study that showed that women found 80% of men to be below average in looks. Bear in mind that this study came out years after this theory had been floating around. From an evolutionary standpoint it makes perfect sense. Women get the best genetics from sleeping with the top males. She's limited by her gestation period, she can't afford to mate with sub-par males. Note how that's different from men, who don't hit evolutionary dead-ends by sleeping with lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/15 04:04 PM
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RP opinions are rooted in facts about evolutionary biology. Women having sex with promiscuous alphas is a evolutionary advantage, men having sex with promiscuous women is an evolutionary dead end. It's hard to make the same inferals with homosexuals because we don't understand them that well. How are they mentally similar to men vs. women? They often have the adaptations of both, much moreso than heterosexuals do. If one can assume that hetero female brains are identical to homosexual ones, then…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 09:01 PM
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TRP is like a high-value man. No amount of calling him an asshole and warning your friends will keep them away from him.
/r/TheRedPill18/12/15 07:01 PM
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If you won't fuck her, I will. There's money to be made if you can put together a video. I only ask for 10% as your agent.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 06:04 PM
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Being a slut or a stud is a label derived by the perceptions of others. Even if you had a hypersexual lesbian, it's the perception of other, non-hypersexual lesbians that matters, not just the one. It's very common for lesbians to stop having sex in a relationship. I don't think they value it enough to make value judgements the way heterosexuals do.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 06:02 PM
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No. Women movie goers just have no choice. Because it's men who are buying up tickets to romcoms right? Hollywood execs hate money, they make these movies out of principle, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 05:58 PM
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We don't really care what works on the fully secure uggoes.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 05:52 PM
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I dabbled in PUA for a bit too. If you cut out the bullshit, there's a lot of good meat in there. It's not entirely inaccurate. Where PUA falls down is in not encouraging that you build your value in addition to learning game. One is incomplete without the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 05:51 PM
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Devil is in the details.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 05:44 PM
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I have to pretend to be feminine and not weird, men don't like weird It's off-putting, but not by as much as you'd think. Lots of guys find it quirky if you're decently attractive. Not at all comparable to the work men need to put in. Countless gym hours, practice approaching, socializing, building a career, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 05:43 PM
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TRP doesn't really work the same with with homosexual markets, but I can offer my take. Being a gay male slut isn't a problem for other male sluts the same way that hetero men don't mind fucking female sluts. It's in committing to them that's problematic; I'd assume that gay men likely don't want to marry gay male sluts either. No idea how it'd work with lesbians. Sex doesn't seem that important to them at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 05:39 PM
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That's exactly the underlying assumption to any generalization made in TRP. It's true for the general case. There are exceptions to literally every rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 05:32 PM
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Not really, when you consider that most women can't size up how good you'll be in bed before they've fucked you. Women selectively filter their fuck prospects because a hotter guy increases the prospect of hotter sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 05:29 PM
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Becoming a hot guy isn't that easy. Most guys who are considered hot had to work for it in some way or another.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 05:28 PM
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It's funny how they don't like it when the privilege argument is used against them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 05:27 PM
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Yes and no. I went from one extreme to the other. Most women sizing you up for commitment care predominantly about whether or not you're still like that. They want to rule out the risk of getting played. If you had a slutty past they often don't want to know the extent of it. You're right that some women will cut you off once they figure out your real number. It's not as many as you'd think.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 05:25 PM
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To be fair, it's easier to be aloof once you're sitting at the top. I get where these angry kids are coming from.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 05:22 PM
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Count your blessings for not having the male sex drive then.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 05:19 PM
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Men outside the top 20% are invisible to most women, especially with younger women. Most men are pretty keenly aware of this dynamic, which makes female lack of self-awareness about the issue rather amusing.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 05:11 PM
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OTOH, after we broke up he was in a dry spell for over a year while it was easy for me to start dating again. So there's that is the reason for my HS BF got congratulated for fucking me It's easy to be a female slut and hard to be a male one.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 05:07 PM
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The day fish jump into my boat is the day I quit fishing. Nothing feels better than accomplishing your goals through hard work and perseverance.
/r/TheRedPill18/12/15 04:50 PM
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Then said guys go out there and do said things. I'm going to pre-empt BP'ers by clarifying that these behaviours are already the default in these betas, they're not doing them just so they can score. Common feminist fallacy. These guys are told that the way they are is inherently attractive to women and that they simply need to find the right one. The rest is exactly as you say. It doesn't work, and feminists shit all over him saying he's entitled. He gets so put off that he abandons feminism an…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 04:48 PM
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Complaining about women's sexual habits By this, do you mean that whenever a man complains about women's sexual habits it's means he's entitled? That doesn't really seem like a congruent thought. Expressing bitterness over how relationships work Same deal, not sure how you come to the conclusion that it's automatically derived from entitlement. Being angry that there is a differences between men and women Most men are mad because they're told there are no differences, but that's observably false…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 04:45 PM
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Never understood why men were envious of the female experience. Maybe because it's easier initially. Being a man is fucking awesome. Wouldn't trade it for a second. Your life can be one large upward trajectory if you set about it. Doesn't matter where you initially start on the SMV curve, your fully actualized self is a fair bit higher than where you are now. Be grateful for that.
/r/TheRedPill18/12/15 04:14 PM
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Most men are only two experiences shy of becoming full-fledged TRP'ers. It's hard to appreciate this sub without the proper perspective. A fairly universal theme I've seen among the more senior members of this sub is that they've all been around the block. And if you've ever dug up the post history of our biggest detractors, they're nearly always either young or they're virgins. Life has a funny way of teaching you how little you actually know about the world, one shitty experience at a time.
/r/TheRedPill18/12/15 04:09 PM
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Female SMV is ~85% her looks, so yeah, she only has a little wiggle room with the rest.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 02:03 PM
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"Only on Tuesdays" "Why? You want to go beat up some white guys together?" Delivered with amused tone, and immediately followed by changing the topic. They usually let up, but when they don't you just keep deflecting with other shit. Ignore and ask a different question yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 02:02 PM
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It's hard to have empathy for ass holes Too funny. You literally just proved my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 09:49 PM
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No, but I wouldn't lie to her either about what's making her unattractive. Nor would I pretend to be ignorant so I can maintain a platonic relationship with her. That's what this discussion is about.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 09:06 PM
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Simplified, but essentially yes. Women would rather laugh than fume.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 08:29 PM
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who expect a (typically sexual) reward for being courteous No, not true at all. This is the lie that's repeated over and over again by feminists. Nice guys don't think they're entitled to sex because they're nice. They're inherently nice, they're not faking it. It's the way they grew up. They mistakenly believe that their niceness is an attractive quality that women will find attractive. They're simply looking for a romantic relationship, like everyone else. They're just confused why their nicen…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 08:26 PM
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Agree and Amplify, works like a charm. Most women prefer to have fun instead of wage ideological war, unless they're of the Tumblr feminazi variety.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 08:22 PM
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We'd love you over in Canada, particularly feminist-entrenched hellholes like Toronto. If you want to maximize the number of Leftists who hate you, your time would be well spent there.
/r/TheRedPill17/12/15 08:11 PM
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Or simply not discuss it at all. Women want to fuck fun guys that give them a range of emotional experience, not guys that can wax philosophical about feminist theory. "Are you a feminist?" is a shit test.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 07:36 PM
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You know this because you went out and tried it? Or do you simply believe it to be true and that's good enough for you? Sounds awfully Catholic.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 07:33 PM
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Women want a man who is aggressive and dominant towards everyone but them. You can see how that doesn't play out well a lot of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 07:30 PM
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You forgot the part where it completely kills her libido. No thanks. Just get snipped if you're done with kids.
/r/TheRedPill17/12/15 07:28 PM
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Great answer. When your value is high, new, interesting people will come into your life one way or another. Don't waste time with close-minded morons.
/r/TheRedPill17/12/15 06:15 PM
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I disagree, and I personally think you're taking that route because it's easier for you. It's startling lacking in empathy. This is why TRP often states that women are incapable of it. He's low SMV after all. Billy beta doesn't know better. A woman in a comparable position would be treated differently.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 04:25 PM
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The right's moral absolutism is different, and mostly entrenched in its religious followers. Secular extreme-right conservatives are ideologues, but not moral absolutists.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 04:22 PM
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Loving and traditional. Mom was the younger trophy wife that took care of the home and kids, dad was out earning money and making all the major decisions. Couldn't picture a happier couple. The only way it influenced my ideas was that dad was never home to raise his son on how to be properly masculine. In terms of the Captain/First Mate dynamic, I got to see it first-hand for my entire life and it works fantastically.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 04:20 PM
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I couldn't even imagine having a ONS, but I am okay with other people being into that Because as a woman you don't quite understand male attraction triggers. It's a preference. Men are entitled to them just as women are. It'd be no different than women preferring to be with tall men, except that you can't choose to be short whereas you can choose to be a slut.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 04:18 PM
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Alpha = sexually desirable man. Some subset of the alpha population is commitment-minded. Those are the alphas that RPW want.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 04:15 PM
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Not unfair at all, given how many other social interactions are governed by social cues and not overt communication. Women exclusively deal in social cues, except in this one arena. TRP advocates being direct because it's masculine and effective, but Billy Beta doesn't know any of that. It's still unethical to take advantage of the clueless.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 04:13 PM
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You can fight arguments. You can't fight "tone". Implying that TRP aims to become accepted by those who reject the tone. TRP is a set of objective facts presented raw, take it or leave it. The BP camp chooses to leave it for reasons purely related to the tone. OP's point is precisely that RP clearly works, but TBP just hates the words we use.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 04:09 PM
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All she can do is acknowledge he has sexual desires. That's the point OP was making, is that women often don't acknowledge them. Either out of fear of confrontation, fear of losing the relationship, or for purely manipulative reasons, women often allow the "friendship" to continue by pretending to be unaware of the beta's romantic interest. She'd rather keep the relationship going for her benefit than take the risk and reject his sexual feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 04:07 PM
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But I wouldn't call that being nice, I would call it being supplicating That's a rather disingenuous way to put it. You're rephrasing the situation such that it paints the nice guy as a villain. Supplication is a form of niceness -- just excessive in its application. A nice guy who supplicates doesn't stop being a nice guy for it. A lot of the things you're describe, especially where it relates to not being spineless, are things that often get you labelled as an asshole (when truthfully you're s…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 04:03 PM
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By OP, I meant /u/ExpendableOne. Should have been more clear. Reading his posts that's the angle he seems to be driving at. I take the eunuch comment as "Because he's not sexually appealing to you it's okay to treat him as if he does not have sexual urges", which is what friendzoning a guy whose romantic interests you're aware of is. I don't think he was making any kind of argument that a clueless woman is somehow at fault for not sexually entertaining a guy whose sexual interest isn't even perc…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 03:57 PM
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I've heard other people parrot the same thing, but in heavily feminist-entrenched cities it's still the case where saying you aren't one is a social handicap. Online it's definitely as you describe though.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 03:52 PM
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Not always, no. If you're collectively high status and high wealth, she will often categorize you as AF. I'm reminded of a concert promoter I knew several years ago. He knew all the big names in Canada, regularly scheduled acts for them. Guy made big money. Women were dying for his cock, all HB8's and 9's.
/r/TheRedPill17/12/15 03:50 PM
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At this point all she knows is that he's a friendly guy. I thought the assumption was that she was aware of his interest. What OP was driving at was friendzone behaviour from women who are either too afraid to say something for fear of changing things, or are simply manipulating men to collect orbiters. In both cases the woman knows (or senses) some romantic interest from the guy. If she's completely unaware, then she can't do much. Sucks for beta boy.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 03:45 PM
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Because once you opened your mouth I would next you so hard This is my favourite repeated mistake from the BP camp. The notion that you can instantly tell an RP'er when he speaks. You'd have no idea. There is no way that you'd identify an RP'er from an attractive, charming man. RP'ers know not to discuss their true thoughts or feelings. I live in the most feminist friendly city in Canada. I've slept with several feminists. Intelligent, "self-respecting" ones. Once you know what women want to hea…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 03:43 PM
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Only to those who value fluff over substance.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 03:36 PM
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This is a sunk cost fallacy Which is something people commit all the time. Emotions override logic in most people. What you're saying is true, but most people don't act that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 03:34 PM
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How should she treat him going forward? Let him know how she feels. Tell him that she's not interested in a romantic relationship, but she enjoys spending platonic time together. She knows how he feels, to ignore it in order to maintain the relationship is manipulative and cruel. In a lot of cases speaking your feelings spells the end of the relationship, but women aren't entitled to platonic relationships anymore than men are entitled to sex. If the guy was never interested in being friends, sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 03:31 PM
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I had a bit of a slut phase several years back. The most derisive, contempt-filled talk comes from women describing the betas they're cheating on during pillow talk. Quite eye-opening.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 03:28 PM
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I agree with this. It's a common trait in Leftist ideology, it's okay to hate and destroy those that don't agree with you. Leftism is the practice of moral absolutism, you're either with us or you're evil and deserve what you get. It amuses me mostly because the Left claims to be the party that aids the disenfranchised, but seemingly only those that share their ideology. Most of the men who arrive at TRP are there because they're on the lower end of the success curve and miserable for it, but th…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 03:25 PM
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No, because men want sex for the sake of it. It has less to do with social pressures and conformation, though those do play a part, than simply being frustrated and lonely. What you're describing is a hypothetical, it's impossible to live in a world without pressure or expectations, since those things are founded on peoples biological desires.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 03:21 PM
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I think he meant "deserving to pursue sex", which everyone is entitled to. Feminism largely spells out that low-SMV men are not even entitled to pursue sex. Feminism perpetuates male suffering by keeping the beta blind to what actually makes women want to fuck you. That's why it's evil and worth combating.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 03:16 PM
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"No one who has ever referred to themselves as a hard worker has ever been a hard worker" "No one who has ever referred to themselves as a good person is a good person" I too can say pithy things that are meaningless.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 03:14 PM
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Women do not shame nice guys I've seen it. But typically it comes from the more high-testosterone, CC-riding loudmouth types than the demure, introverted ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 03:12 PM
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It's absolutely a boogeyman. Most feminists don't actually spend time with nice guys, except to manipulate the useful idiots that make up male feminists. A lot of us either have these guys as friends or were these guys at one point. Feminists don't have the same perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 03:08 PM
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It starts with the lack of sexual interest, and culminates with the world telling the beta that he's to be ashamed. Understand that most pre-TRP men grew up in an environment without a strong male influence, so societal ideas of masculinity were all they had to work with.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 03:06 PM
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Niceness is actually a bump in SMV in women. BP men make the mistaken assumption that their own attraction triggers also exist in women. Women don't care about niceness as much as they care about the myriad of other male SMV aspects.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 03:04 PM
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It's true of the majority. My situation was the same as yours, but most arrive at TRP as completely hapless betas.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 03:02 PM
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If you're not even willing to put in the work to tell us a bit about yourself, chances are you aren't putting in any work towards improving yourself. You're low SMV. Simple as that.
/r/askTRP17/12/15 03:00 PM
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This does not mean all women act on these behavioural drivers in the same way, or that said behaviours manifest to the same degree or frequency. The degree to which, and the frequency of which AWALT traits manifest certainly differs from woman to woman, but that is all that differs, the degree and frequency of behaviour, not the type of behaviour This is often the most misunderstood element of AWALT. Likely because not everyone perceives the world in a probabilistic fashion, they see the world i…
/r/TheRedPill17/12/15 02:40 PM
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Not getting fucked results in getting frustrated, which results in getting mocked. Try to keep up, the adults are trying to have a conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 07:39 PM
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That's not why peace and prosperity don't last. At all. Lack of resources is the core reason why conflict arises. Resources vary from food, to land, to women, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 07:33 PM
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Countries that are third-world, where survival is difficult, are typically patriarchal in order to maximize survival chances. Western countries are full of excess resulting in less need for male provision, and conversely less patriarchal. War resets that playing field by making life a struggle again. Interestingly, an excess of disenfranchised males often ends up leading to war. Perhaps why war and peace are so cyclical in history.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 07:03 PM
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As long as it's not interfering with any other aspect of your life, go for it. Build up your confidence now, less performance anxiety down the road.
/r/askTRP16/12/15 06:31 PM
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Girls want to see the magic tricks but don't want to know how the trick was done. Don't reveal your ties here. Law of Power #30: Make your accomplishments seem effortless. Women chase after naturals, not trained alphas.
/r/askTRP16/12/15 06:29 PM
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Yes. 100%. ...and you accomplish that by elevating your SMV and deleting everything you have that connects you to her. Look forward, not backward.
/r/askTRP16/12/15 06:24 PM
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Pretty much. Feminism is arguably as toxic for women as it is for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 05:31 PM
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Or not blame women. Seriously, it's all women's fault they can't get laid? The dude in this situation has zero responsibility? You're not thinking like a beta. Betas were sold on the following package: "Women are attracted to nice guys who treat them right and respect them". Betas repeatedly see that this is not true. More often than not the hottest women end up with guys who are "assholes" (re: men who prioritize their own needs over others). The beta doesn't understand this discrepancy, but he…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 05:29 PM
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Male SMV isn't only comprised of looks. I'm talking about men who do not have status, wealth, dominance, etc. Men who are SMV 2-3 overall.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 05:14 PM
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The divorce rates are really several different toxic factors, including modern 3rd wave Feminism, the college cock carousel, messed up gender roles, and bringing women into the workplace. And other shit, like big daddy government coming in and taking over a man's role. Those are the things that undid women's innate propensity to divorce low-value men. They were failsafes against their default behaviour. The reason women inherently wish to leave low-SMV men is because of what I stated earlier, th…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 05:13 PM
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A lack of confidence can be more than made up by aggression and dominance. Those men have that in spades.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 05:07 PM
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Men who blame women as a collective for their lack of success are not nice. You've essentially stated what I said earlier -- men who open their mouths about the nature of the issue get branded as "not nice". Their only options are to shut up and continue to fail, or say something about it and get hated for it. Women collectively maintain the lie that niceness is itself an attractive quality, while lying to betas about their inherently unattractive qualities. You said it yourself, women will say …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 05:06 PM
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Both people are capable of loving each other for who they are Reality would disagree with you. There's a reason why divorce rates are so heavily lopsided. Men are willing to endure shitty women, women aren't willing to endure even average men.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 05:00 PM
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Plenty of dudes aren't successful romantically but aren't mocked for it. Only because they aren't complaining about it. By complaining about his situation he automatically becomes "not nice" in the eyes of most feminists and women. The only good nice guy is one that accepts his fate as a loser. It's a catch-22 for him.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 04:51 PM
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What I'm driving at is that "wifebeater" isn't divorced from "high-value alpha". Poor alcoholics with lousy self-control can still be alphas by having status, confidence, or dominance. They're in no way bottom of the barrel, at least not in their immediate environments.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 04:48 PM
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Uncommon in what sense? They're less common than average males, by definition. Is it your belief that there are more "fake" nice guys that are romantically unsuccessful than genuine ones?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 04:32 PM
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If they were genuinely nice to everyone, then I doubt they were given shit for being a "nice guy". This is your quote. You don't believe that nice guys get shit on just for being nice, you assume that either: 1) Those guys do well romantically 2) Those guys aren't actually nice after all Which is it? I charitably assumed you believed the latter, since the former is very easily observed to be false.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 04:28 PM
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A genuinely nice guy can find a woman if he lowers his standards enough No, you're making the mistake all feminists make, by picturing an average, SMV 5-6 male. Picture a guy who's a 2 or a 3. He cannot lower his standards; he's already willing to take anyone, but women of all SMV don't consider him an option due to hypergamy. Women of all ranges can fuck and secure the commitment of a higher status male. Men cannot do the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 04:23 PM
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No, not at all true. Chris Brown, Ray Rice, Chad Johnson, I could go on. Hell, in Chris Brown's case women were actually posting on twitter that they wouldn't mind getting beat up by him. "Alpha" does not mean an upstanding individual. It simply denotes a sexually successful man. If a man has significantly more SMV than his partner, he can get away with a lot, because a lot of women crave alphas more than they crave good behaviour.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 04:21 PM
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You either agree that genuinely nice, but sexually unsuccessful men exist or you don't. It's quite simple. I know for a fact that they do. When you deny their existence, how else am I to interpret that? Imagine if our roles were reversed.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 04:17 PM
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I grew up in the most feminist city in Canada. Feminism wasn't just true, it was obvious and the Right ThingTM . I could have been their poster boy. I believed that women were truly underprivileged, and that men were colossal assholes for treating them so badly. Whenever women behaved badly, I rationalized it away. Either I fucked something up, or I just got a bad apple. Except it kept on happening, over and over, both to myself and all of my male peers. My deeply held feminist beliefs were chip…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 04:14 PM
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Tell that to the women in stereotypical "he did me wrong, but I still love him" marriages. High-value males with lower value women. Women would rather share an alpha (even an abusive, shitty one) than have exclusive access to a beta. That's the transactional part, she wants his alpha value. Men are capable of loving much, much lower SMV women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 04:09 PM
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Some people aren't prepared for reality. However, those people aren't exactly happy in their BP delusion either. Chasing the dragon that doesn't exist doesn't bring the beta any happiness. If he can work past that phase his life will almost assuredly improve.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 04:08 PM
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If they were genuinely nice to everyone, then I doubt they were given shit for being a "nice guy" Because you refuse to even entertain the idea. I love that you made this response, it's a textbook example of how women and feminists cannot reconcile uncomfortable ideas about female sexuality, and so they must invent a narrative that fits. Dude, you don't know me or how I behave, No, I have plenty information to go on. I'm telling you that genuine, warm, loveable nice guys exist and they're plenti…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 04:05 PM
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It is transactional in part, but not in its entirety. Men are capable of loving women who lose SMV. Women who treat them terribly. Men who pair-bond with their women tend to do so irrationally. There are countless examples of this with deeply beta men. Hop into /r/DeadBedrooms or talk to some divorced men for some great examples. It's very unlike female love. The only time women experience something similar is when they're getting fuckzoned by an alpha way out of their league, but even then it's…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 03:55 PM
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They cited the original study however, which does divulge the types of questions they use to define rape: "Have you given into sexual intercourse when you didn't want to because you were overwhelmed by a man's continual arguments and pressure?" Really? Being persistent equates to rape? Are pushy salesmen thieves then? If you use asinine definitions of rape, you will get broader results. If you limit it to the ones that actually do define rape, then you get a smaller pool of men who do not respon…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 03:49 PM
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That's laughably untrue. I used to know dozens of guys who were the absolute nicest to everyone, regardless of station. They were unattractive and did poorly with women, but they didn't lack for genuine niceness. What you've written is a rationalization to justify your behaviour.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 03:37 PM
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Agreed. Women hamster reality to make uncomfortable truths go away. This is the reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 03:35 PM
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Women hamster reality to make uncomfortable truths go away. Simple as that. The notion that a genuinely nice person could be romantically unsuccessful is uncomfortable, it implies all kinds of things about female romantic attraction that most women do not want to admit to (as is evidenced everyday in this sub). The product of this is that she will hamster reality in such a way that the nice guy isn't nice after all. That way she can feel better about her inability to empathize with him. It's pro…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 03:33 PM
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No, women are quite incapable of empathizing with low-value males that are not their sons. Female romantic love is transactional; they love a man's value, not the man himself. Your post isn't too far from the truth though. Women hamster their realities in order to make uncomfortable truths go away. In this case, the idea that she isn't capable of empathizing with a good person makes her feel like a bad person. In order to correct that, she needs to invent in her mind the idea that the person isn…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 03:30 PM
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The apparent contradiction between your advice and “Stop Chasing Women, Chase Money Instead” exists because you've assumed a specific element that /u/MAX_Fury didn't imply, but didn't exactly clarify. Money can be used in a right way and a wrong way. The wrong way is as you suggest, to present yourself as a beta chump with a fat wallet that's ripe for being plucked by gold-digging whores. That's not what the aim of getting wealthy is. Getting wealthy means you have more options for obtaining sta…
/r/TheRedPill16/12/15 02:39 PM
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An important element to consider is that no one gives a fuck about you even if you're high value. They only care about your value and what it means to them. People are inherently selfish, subconsciously. People will gravitate towards your high value, and disappear in an instant when you lose it. There are very rare exceptions to this, family and close friends, but even then not all of them. Learn to take care of number one as your highest priority, because literally no one else in the world does…
/r/TheRedPill16/12/15 02:15 PM
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I'm always one to take the silver lining in any given situation; learning to handle women is fantastic prep work for learning how to handle kids. Nearly identical treatment when it comes to regulating their misbehaviour.
/r/TheRedPill16/12/15 02:08 PM
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Nope, not even close. BP traits are inherently unattractive to women, whether they were there at the start or if they emerged as a property of getting lax in the relationship. Long before I came to understand women I was the poster boy for BP ideology. As an attractive guy that meant I got into a lot of relationships, but they all ended within a few short months with absolutely no behaviour change on my part. Went through four near-identical relationships with women who were completely different…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 07:48 PM
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Your penis responds to anxiety, which in turn is only resolved by experience and indifference. Everything that genuine abundance offers. To eventually get over it you're just going to have to fuck enough women such that you become familiar enough that you no longer get any anxiety. In the meanwhile, see if a doc can prescribe you some Viagra. It'll get you past the first hump.
/r/askTRP15/12/15 07:16 PM
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Based on the language he uses, I guarantee you that Bill Burr is on some level aware of the manosphere, if not a reader.
/r/TheRedPill15/12/15 06:52 PM
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My own uncle set me down a path towards masculinity when I was young, so this is a little closer to my heart. You're going to want to be part of his life if you care about him at all. You won't be able to dump TRP on him out of the blue, that's a surefire way to become ostracized. Spend time developing trust and rapport with him. Talk to him where possible. He's going to want to speak with other males, that's simply natural. Once you've gotten some comfort with him, start seeding him with RP ide…
/r/askTRP15/12/15 05:27 PM
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Warning, if you're not high enough smv, this will unleash the dragon in response. Fuck it, black-knighting is its own reward.
/r/TheRedPill15/12/15 04:31 PM
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They are in love in the sense that there are chemicals in their heads creating a pair-bond with their partner. That state in women is contingent on a dozen conditions that must exist with her man, none of which are ideals set in BP fantasy.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 04:24 PM
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There is that one woman who has a medical condition where she overproduces oxytocin, and literally falls in love with everyone. Quite possibly the only exception. Women do not love unconditionally, or even semi-conditionally. It's entirely transactional.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 04:06 PM
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Which is why its silly that TRP's way to avoid rape is "lift bro." In my 3 years on TRP I have never once seen that suggested as advice for women. 10 times out of 10 TRP men will point out that even trained women are laughably inadequate for handling a man with 30 lbs on them, nevermind the sudden stress of aggressive combat.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 04:00 PM
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One of your more insightful posts from memory. You can usually tell who has the most interactions with women based on their general cynical attitude about their nature. Much like everything else, idealism is smashed by the hammer of experience and reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 03:57 PM
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Spinning plates is: Cheaper More satisfying to the ego Sex is better There's no way a professional girl can replicate the raw lust that a horny plate can.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 03:53 PM
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An unusually insightful post. That said, where your objective analysis breaks down is here: I don't think that what men want is impossible, because I know that women do actually love men This is what you want to believe. You don't want to accept that we live in a world where your attraction is largely transactional. Believing it would put you in a weird negative space; the only form of love you're capable of isn't terribly romantic. What you've personally felt as love feels real to you, but from…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 03:45 PM
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The one thing that everyone here should be aware of is that admitting to this is social suicide in most circles. Whether you're male or female. It's one of those inconvenient truths that needs to be understood and never spoken. Those with deeply-entrenched BP ideas won't even consider the evidence, it's not true because they don't wish it to be true. The vast majority of women, whether knowingly or unknowingly, are extremely aroused by the idea that a very high-SMV alpha can lose control and dom…
/r/TheRedPill15/12/15 02:58 PM
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If you read between the lines, there are some clever power plays going on here. Note the language she uses throughout the whole video; "this happens to me, that happens to me" and it all bears the inkling of inevitability. The message she's conveying is that Women are not actors, they are acted on. It's remarkable how humans innately respond to that message; women are weak and powerless to affect their surrounding reality, and need others to do something about it. This type of self-victimization…
/r/TheRedPill15/12/15 02:34 PM
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Your stats quite clearly show that East Asians do worse. You seem to have an agenda here. That said, it's interesting that this study conflicts with the OKC one. Do you have the original study?
/r/TheRedPill15/12/15 02:14 PM
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Women do not have stress tolerance to the degree men do. Men are both culturally and genetically wired to handle stress better. As a man, making a wrong decision is a bummer; as a woman it ruins her entire day and likely has her running off to her Prozac cabinet. Women will step up to responsibility when they have to, but they dread every second of it and will pass off that anguish to you. They don't want to lead. They don't want to decide. Making her do either is synonymous with giving her stre…
/r/TheRedPill14/12/15 08:05 PM
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There's a reason why reformed alcoholics don't occasionally have a small sip here and there. Brain addiction can be incredibly powerful and not easily overcome by sheer willpower alone when confronted with the addictive substance. Oneitis is a mental addiction. Your brain wants you to stick with her, for no other reason than because your biology thinks it's the best way to pass on your genes. No contact is the only solution, you already know this. The only way you can trust yourself to do it is …
/r/askTRP14/12/15 05:56 PM
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You're adorable
/r/askTRP14/12/15 05:46 PM
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Chances are you're lying but whatever works for you.
/r/askTRP14/12/15 05:37 PM
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probably because they haven't found that one special person You've misread my previous post if this was your takeaway. Sexual variety is more appealing to the vast majority of men than monogamous relationships; the latter is simply easier more more socially acceptable. In much the same way that the allure of sex is over-inflated by virgin males, so too is it with sexual variety and average men. Some men continue to spin plates into old age. Others decide to do away with women except for the odd …
/r/askTRP14/12/15 05:09 PM
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The men spearheading most of the theory are successful men who haven't been divorce-raped. Those guys aren't the ones crafting most of the theory; if they were good at the game to begin with they likely wouldn't have put themselves in that position to begin with. One can simply look at it from an outsider's perspective, see that the deal is simply awful with no real benefits, and see the enormous costs associated with it and declare it to be a raw deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 04:31 PM
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You can emotionally bond with your LTR, there's nothing about TRP that says you can't love your woman. Just recognize that she isn't special, and that there exists a line that once crossed disqualifies her from future commitment, regardless of your feelings or attachments to her. Establish those hard mental boundaries for yourself, and otherwise feel free to emotionally connect with your LTR where it doesn't interfere with relationship staples like maintaining frame and commanding respect.
/r/TheRedPill14/12/15 03:36 PM
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In the event you're not trolling, the answer is simply that you start looking for something different in life as your priorities change. Believe it or not, the allure of fucking different women gets old and tired after a while. For some men the work involved in setting up the logistics is outweighed by other priorities. The emotional provision of an LTR is a very different thing. Spinning plates doesn't leave a lot of room for emotional attachment. You've always got them an arms-length away for …
/r/askTRP14/12/15 03:27 PM
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I would say that Arabs and Persians (unless they look completely white) probably have it the worst of all the races when it comes to getting white girls Arabs, yes, Persians, not as much. Unless you're talking about your typical immigrant Persian fob who fetishes blondes. Westernized Persian guys do nearly as well as white guys do, simply for the fact that they look like exotic white guys to some white women. If you look at the OKCupid race stats, Middle-Eastern men do fairly well relatively spe…
/r/TheRedPill14/12/15 03:15 PM
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"Damn, that's too bad. Hope you change your mind. Anyway, as I was saying..." That's pretty good, similar to my own experiences. I usually use something to the effect of "That's cute" and laugh it off like they're silly for having attacked your character. The idea is to socially shame them for doing so. It's a variant of Powertalk. There was one bitchy chick at a lounge that was just having a shit night, and wanted to make sure everyone felt the same. I used that line, which only amped her up, f…
/r/TheRedPill12/12/15 08:06 PM
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It's funny, 26 was around the time I had my RP awakening as well, more or less for the same reasons. That was close to a decade ago, I would have killed for TRP back then. Perhaps it ought not to be surprising that it takes some combination of experience and setback to properly open ones eyes.
/r/TheRedPill11/12/15 02:21 PM
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You can just as easily transition from one to the other. Get a degree, build some capital with your middle-class income, start up a business. Going right into business by taking huge loans and no backup capital is very risky, not really recommended unless you have a passion for that kind of thing.
/r/TheRedPill11/12/15 02:15 PM
1

There's no reason to believe that pre-cum is a credible risk for pregnancy. The failure rate of birth control is almost certainly higher.
/r/TheRedPill10/12/15 08:23 PM
1

NMMNG is an easier read for newbies. TRM is a much more thorough, in-depth look at masculinity in the modern era.
/r/askTRP10/12/15 08:10 PM
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Wasn't the case for me, I was always attractive physically. Wasn't until my fourth consecutive failed relationship that I made some attitude and behavioural changes. And like magic, the response from women was night and day.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/15 07:31 PM
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Personally, I've extended this even to LTR's. Fuck them raw, but don't come inside them. Pop on a rubber right before you nut. Undesired children are easily the worst sexually transmitted disease.
/r/TheRedPill10/12/15 07:20 PM
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Men and women are not the same. The standards you hold for women need not be the standards you hold for men. Male virginity is easy and male promiscuity is hard; female promiscuity is easy and female chastity is hard. This creates a very different set of standards within the SMP. Further, that feeling of aversion to female sluttiness is biological. It's a massive red flag in women. I wrote about this a while back. It's not hypocritical to demand chastity from women while being promiscuous yourse…
/r/askTRP10/12/15 03:25 PM
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and before you say it's a BP wussy sport, I was a goalie Don't apologize or feel you need to justify your choice of sport. Sports are good for male development because of the competition, socialization and athleticism involved. Doesn't matter if you're a soccer goalie or a football linebacker. If you have a behaviour that constantly needs justification, chances are it's something you ought not to be doing it.
/r/TheRedPill10/12/15 02:53 PM
9

I honestly had no fucking idea I was attractive until I started working out and giving a fuck about how I look. The SAME fucking kid I spent 10+ hours with helping him through an anxiety attack after I found TRP is telling me "I don't like the new you." I'd confidently say that describes more than a few people here. The lack of success with women growing up leads you to believe you're simply unattractive physically. No one tells you it's mostly behavioural, nor which behaviours are unattractive.…
/r/TheRedPill10/12/15 02:37 PM
3

Humans are incredibly malleable in adolescence. A child raised by religious parents adopts the same religion. A child with Neo-Nazi parents develops white nationalist attitudes. A child raised by a shitty, failure of a human being -- a single mother -- will similarly raise weak, unprepared children. When one realizes how much of a child's entire life is decided by the attitude and demeanor of his parents, one can't help but think it isn't some form of abuse to raise a child to be woefully unprep…
/r/TheRedPill10/12/15 02:26 PM
1

It's not that men are pathologically loyal, such black and white thinking doesn't apply to mostly anything. Men naturally trend towards loyalty, meaning that as a percentage of the population more men than women value loyalty. Further, just because one values loyalty does not preclude one from having a breakpoint; what justifies as a cutoff for breaking loyalty is higher in men than in women.
/r/askTRP09/12/15 09:57 PM
4

1,A man have been diagnosed with Cancer. Hypergamy and Briffault's law. A man is only as valuable as his current value, not any previous value he might have offered. Honour and loyalty are male constructs -- they do not come naturally to women. All female ideas of loyalty are taught, not innate, and hence not as strong. 2,A man and woman enjoys their life in college Women are social, herd creatures. A negative social reputation is death to a woman. Historic roots in evolutionary biology. If a ma…
/r/askTRP09/12/15 05:24 PM
1

Cities like Toronto, and to a lesser extent London and Kingston, are heavily skewed in favour of women. There are thousands and thousands of thirsty betas of all ranges of SMV willing to throw themselves for a fraction of female attention. It seriously fucks with these women's heads, women of below average SMV genuinely believe they're 9's and 10's. If you want to do well here, ramp up that SMV. Even being top 20% isn't good enough. It has less to do with you being French-Canadian than it does w…
/r/TheRedPill09/12/15 02:43 PM
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I'm reminded of that infamous EMSK thread that stated that adopting TRP will only end up in unhappiness. Such is the power of BP delusion; anything and everything must be done to preserve their precious worldview that being beta is the One True Way. Don't even try to consider alternate viewpoints. Most of us know what that was like. Every man I've spoken to one on one in this sub via private message all stated how much TRP has worked to bring happiness to their lives. Lives that were otherwise m…
/r/TheRedPill09/12/15 02:24 PM
16

Men who grew up outside of the West often still have their heads screwed on right. Without the poison of feminism men aren't as deluded.
/r/TheRedPill09/12/15 02:11 PM
3

That's exactly what it is. Women are pair-bonded for a few years because the first few years of a child's life were historically the most vulnerable, for both child and mother. Evolution worked out such that cheating at around 5 years was a more optimal reproductive strategy for women than simply remaining pair-bonded to the same mate.
/r/TheRedPill09/12/15 02:09 PM
1

Pubmed article. Divorce rate peaks at 5-9 years post-marriage. I can't find the specific article that documents the declining trend of oxytocin, I'll update if I can locate it.
/r/TheRedPill09/12/15 02:06 PM
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Not sure if your grandfather was aware, but that's exactly what oxytocin does (along with vasopressin). They're the love chemicals responsible for pair-bonding. After a few years they diminish to almost nothing -- the median age in which the effects of this were documented was around 4 years. Unsurprisingly divorce rates start heavily climbing after this duration. Your grandfather may not have been a learned man, but you can tell he was a wise one.
/r/TheRedPill09/12/15 04:50 AM
1

In Western society it's very dangerous to share any real opinions on social media. Twitter, Facebook et al should only ever be used as tools to further a goal, never a platform for thought. While it's disheartening to see colleges enact censorship to what amounts to thought crime, you're doing yourself no favours by fighting it. Law 38. Think as you like but behave like others. Especially true on internet spaces with your identity visible.
/r/TheRedPill08/12/15 03:06 PM
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An emotional reaction isn't the same thing as experiencing emotions. Everyone experiences emotions, no one's a robot. How one reacts in response to emotional stimuli is what determines the outcome. An emotional response in OP's case would have been to try to bargain and reason with her. To ask for an abortion up front. It's the instinctive response. Instead, by fighting that immediate reaction and taking a tactical overview of the situation OP came out way ahead. That is the crux of stoicism.
/r/TheRedPill08/12/15 02:03 PM
2

Everyone is accelerating their life progress at roughly the same rate in high school. You start seeing a gap by the time you reach college, some men are on track for wealth and success, others completely uncertain. Everyone's value and networth is still similar-ish. By the time you're 30, that gap has widened. Men are out of shape, in dead-end jobs they've been at for nearly a decade, with all their money tied up in debt. By 35 it's very obvious that there are clear winners and losers in life. O…
/r/askTRP07/12/15 04:03 PM
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I really hope everyone is paying attention to one crucial detail: OP's decision to play the game from a Machiavellian fashion literally from the moment he discovered he was a father. No emotional reaction, no attempts to plead and play for sympathy or mercy; just cold, ruthless game tactics to win. Understand that in situations like these the other person is no longer a human being, but an object that threatens your autonomy and well-being. Stoicism saved your life, friend. Very impressed with h…
/r/TheRedPill07/12/15 02:47 PM
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Listening to the rationalizations of BP men and women for our existence is one of the most entertaining things out there. "Have they ever talked to a woman?", stated as if the entirety of TRP came about as the theory-crafting of a hundred thousand virgins, rather than the detailed analysis of the culmination of our life experiences. The best parts of TRP exist because of the men who have been with so many women were able to pick apart the commonalities. Simple minds want simple answers, of cours…
/r/TheRedPill05/12/15 08:04 PM
1

The fact that you're here asking about it suggests to me that you don't really want to get into one. You just don't relish the thought of this one plate breaking. It's scarcity mentality. I've been in a LTR only because my life priorities changed as I got older and I no longer found much excitement in spinning multiple women. Wanting children, and focusing on my main projects. A woman should never decide for you that commitment is in your best interests, only you can decide that for yourself.
/r/askTRP04/12/15 09:13 PM
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Are we the ones in control when we play along with their game? Only if you frame it that way. Men don't need women to be happy. You don't have to play the game if the game disgusts you. In the sexual marketplace, however, everything is transactional in nature. If you want access to a hot chick's pussy, you need to put up something of value in return, and the currency in this marketplace is your SMV. Effortlessly deflecting shit tests is merely one of many ways to elevate one's SMV. Rico and Cung…
/r/TheRedPill04/12/15 07:37 PM
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Laughter is easily one of the best shit-test handling tools. Legitimate, uncontrollable laughter at the shit she's spouting. Much like you, the first time I discovered it it happened to me once purely unintentionally and it immediately extinguished the tension of the situation. It's when I realized that engaging in direct conversation wasn't always the best method. It works because unlike men, women don't care about the specific details of the argument, they care about the feelings involved. Tha…
/r/TheRedPill04/12/15 07:25 PM
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Game is roughly broken down into Stoic and Amused varieties. Depending on your personality one set of answers will work better for you than others. /u/Metalaggeddon's answers are definitely more in line with Stoic game.
/r/TheRedPill04/12/15 03:25 PM
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The more an industry trends towards meritocracy, the fewer women you will see. That's not an accident. It's living evidence of male superiority in task completion and problem solving. There's a reason why the tech sector and VC is mostly men, the more women you introduce into the mix, the more likely you are to kill your business.
/r/TheRedPill04/12/15 02:43 PM
2

That or an effeminate gay man. In any event it doesn't matter to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 09:45 PM
1

My LTR of 3 years is fully aware I write to TRP. She admires the fact that I'm in a position to mentor younger men. It's a situation not so dissimilar to Rollo Tomassi's. Other high-profile RP'ers, like GLO, do the same. True to female nature you mistakenly assume your experience is the only one. Most women want men with TRP ideals, many of which are fine with TRP'ers themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 09:37 PM
2

Evolution only favours that which promotes genetic replication, nothing else. It doesn't care that you got hurt, or depressed, or broken down. It just cares that your little swimmers grew up to have kids of their own. Women have a similar pair-bonding mechanism, but they have one massive confounding factor: hypergamy. As soon as she has given birth, getting impregnated by the most alpha male present without losing her provision is her dominant strategy. When she broke up with you, it's because y…
/r/askTRP03/12/15 06:08 PM
2

One-itis exists to ensure you stick around long enough to raise children past their most vulnerable years before you go off hunting for new mates. Wrote about this a while back. Evolution doesn't understand "breaking up". All it knows is that making you emotionally pair-bonded to women you've ejaculated in increases the chance that your genes replicate. Moreso than just fucking and walking away. That's why you're still thinking about her.
/r/askTRP03/12/15 05:38 PM
2

Is he really any better than the women who say they want to be treated like a queen, but spend their time with Chad? Yes. Male SMV isn't significantly impacted by their sexual decisions the way it is with women. Male SMV is affected by the quality of women men historically have chosen to commit to. Women are the gatekeepers of sex, men are the gatekeepers of commitment. That's why the standards are different.
/r/TheRedPill03/12/15 03:13 PM
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That's exactly why religion and marriage were so interwoven. It's why every successful nation has a marriage contract built into its societal views. Marriage is a contract that allows society to channel beta productivity by guaranteeing them some of the pussy that would otherwise go to the top 20%. Wrote about this a while back.
/r/TheRedPill03/12/15 03:08 PM
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I suspect the same is true with Joe Rogan. When you listen to them speak, they channel nearly the same language we see here. They're savvy enough not to reveal their ties to this sub.
/r/TheRedPill03/12/15 02:04 PM
1

Approaching isn't simply about numbers, it's also about maximizing the success of each approach. That's why there's a right and wrong way to go about it. This approach is simply about maximizing the number of approaches without consideration to the efficacy of the individual approach. It's not likely to yield great results, unless you have great external SMV, and even then the type of person who responds will be a specific type.
/r/askTRP02/12/15 03:23 PM
1

But when asked in person I give an inflated range I've done this, repeatedly. Bump up your salary by $10,000. Then negotiate for another $10,000 as your desired amount. I've gotten the $20,000 or close to it each time. It helps if you have an excellent working relationship with your manager, you can request that they not disclose your salary on reference checks (depending on where you live, it may be illegal to even ask that question anyhow).
/r/TheRedPill02/12/15 03:08 PM
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Because the same troll kept posting that question over and over, despite all the feedback and good advice he was given. It's the same as with any other women; raise SMV and put yourself out there.
/r/askTRP29/11/15 09:23 AM
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Joint bank accounts must have been invented by a woman. What man in his right mind thought, "You know what would improve my life? If someone with zero impulse control could get instant access to most of my funds"
/r/TheRedPill27/11/15 12:31 PM
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Arguably the biggest pitfall for already-red men is absolving the need to maintain their actual abundance. You see this with guys who get into LTR's. It's easy to think that once you've raised your SMV it's safe to get complacent. Easiest way to get blindsided by some broad who thinks she can do one better. Even in an LTR it's in ones best interest to keep playing girls. Flirt, tease, everything short of cheating. If your girl ever starts thinking you don't options then hypergamy plays out it's …
/r/TheRedPill25/11/15 12:19 PM
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By age 35 most women have little of value to offer other than ready access to their pussy. They're using the last of their bait to hopefully catch a big fish.
/r/TheRedPill25/11/15 06:16 AM
15

Solipsism accurately explains most female behavior. Pretty sure it's the case here, mixed with a dose of male-preference shaming.
/r/TheRedPill25/11/15 06:12 AM
4

It doesn't always play out like this, especially with hotter women that can still snag an upper beta while in their early 30's. When it does happen it's like watching an impending train collision in slow motion. You can always tell which chicks will drop below the commitment threshold once they hit the wall. You want to feel bad for these chicks because you know they're proper fucked now that there's almost nothing they can do to salvage their lost SMV, but then you remember that they had a lite…
/r/TheRedPill25/11/15 05:55 AM
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Aw. Don't intentionally be one of these guys, they will wind up dying alone unless they grow out of it. "Please don't change, I need a nice comfortable beta cushion to land once I fail to secure an Alpha's commitment in my 30's" OKCupid sub is one of the worst ones on reddit. Feminazi women got to it early and shaped the dialogue right from the get go. Have to laugh how she threw in a little extra solipsism on the side there. Attractive, powerful men of any age don't end up alone unless they wan…
/r/TheRedPill13/11/15 07:55 PM
1

Beta Fucks was more or less the tried and true strategy back in the 50's here in the West as well. Civilizations all ultimately needed a system that favoured betas to channel their productivity. It's largely the reason why immigrant Indian guys (and to a lesser extent, Asian guys) fail in the West. Failure to apply an effective strategy. Those who apply strong AF game do perfectly fine.
/r/TheRedPill13/11/15 04:36 PM
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Naturally. The net result is that it has no true negative downside for us. Though they've appropriated this sub's name, it's really MRA's who are going to get the shit end of the stick. What will happen is that awareness of this sub will go up, only increasing the number of men who get directed to good, actionable advice. It's like /u/redpillschool stated earlier, this is ultimately a good thing for us.
/r/TheRedPill13/11/15 03:27 PM
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One of the better ways in which the idea that women are children is exemplified, they often have zero ability to see past their noses with regards to decisions they make. Children make amusingly uninformed statements like how they'd prefer to have cookies instead of dinner. They only know what they immediately desire, with no thoughts to consequences. Women are precisely the same. They lack the ability to see things on a systemic level, and to see how their decisions have downstream effects. It'…
/r/TheRedPill12/11/15 03:24 PM
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Part of it is these organizations implicitly recognizing women's inferiority when it comes to actually accomplishing things. Much as one would let an 8 year old "win" at checkers just to entertain her, pretending women are capable of accomplishing the same things as men is Google's way of patronizing women while paying them lip service. Women are ultimately children. They need things like this to preserve their egos.
/r/TheRedPill12/11/15 02:49 PM
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Here's a quick guide for posing. As far as photos go, nothing but high quality DSLR photos. The image quality makes a big difference. Find a friend with a nice camera, get them to take "natural" photos of you. It'll make a world of difference to your online game.
/r/TheRedPill12/11/15 02:41 PM
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Whether you admire him or not is not the issue, it's whether he's seen as more socially dominant versus you. Deluca has to save face in light of Bilzerian's antics, however childish they were.
/r/askTRP12/11/15 02:11 PM
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"Remind me to shake Dan's hand for reminding me that hoes ain't loyal" He got one-upped by a more dominant alpha. Reacting to him in a butthurt manner is a strong DLV. Remaining stoic and opening a channel for a potential silently-worded peace treaty is how you come out ahead of that shitty spot.
/r/askTRP11/11/15 09:20 PM
15

Both the industry and the target demographic are entirely lacking in hetero men. It always amuses me when gossip rags are used as evidence of male patriarchal oppression.
/r/TheRedPill10/11/15 05:28 PM
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Of course they do. Feminists and MRA's have one thing in common in that they want the world to change for them to value them for what they are, rather than work to develop elements that people already find valuable. Being feminine as a man is easy. Act weak, play the victim, have someone value you and give you handouts to bring you up. Of course, no one cares for men like that. Weakness in males is exactly like fatness in women. It's disgusting and rejected by men and women alike, for wholly bio…
/r/TheRedPill09/11/15 05:41 PM
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That's been happening in every first-world country, and has everything to do with excess labour in the market relative to the availability of jobs. Women in the workforce, globalization and technology advancement has made the labour supply blow up relative to the number of jobs, bringing down everyone's wages. Most of these things aren't being driven by conspiracy, they're simply the result of market forces.
/r/TheRedPill09/11/15 05:00 PM
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That only applies to a tiny percentage of the rich, arguably only a few thousand people. Sanders has made mention of doing away with corruption in politics, but that's not what I find to be contentious; what's contentious is the idea that the most productive members of society need to be bled even more in order to give the least productive a comfortable life. I'm not against safety nets, but no one owes you a comfortable life. No one owes you the things you want, rather than need. Sanders pitche…
/r/TheRedPill09/11/15 02:16 PM
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Grew up extremely poor. More poor than most people who claim to have been poor. Used to play with the few cups we had as toys. I'm now an IT consultant now with a business I started on the side in the works. Most of Sanders ideas are predicated on the idea that the rich all earned their success through ill-gotten gains, which couldn't be further from the truth. Two-thirds of billionaires and millionaires are self-made in the U.S. The reality is that most people aren't as motivated or as intellig…
/r/TheRedPill09/11/15 03:57 AM
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He's pandering to the types that want something for nothing, and feel entitled to other people's wealth and earnings. He's well-meaning, but his policies and his politics will ensure he'll never overtake Hillary in the primaries.
/r/TheRedPill08/11/15 02:38 PM
0

'Alpha' denotes a successful individual. We normally use it to apply to men, but there is a dominant female strategy as well.
/r/askTRP06/11/15 01:48 PM
2

Depends on how mom sees the deadbeat dad. Part of why it's a red flag is that mom might have been injecting anti-male sentiment onto her daughter. Her way of getting back at the alpha who wrong her, by creating an alpha female that goes around breaking hearts.
/r/askTRP06/11/15 12:39 AM
1

My only take away from this is that you still need to work on your poker face. You can easily get a lying bitch to open up if she thinks you're on her side. Not that you needed it in this scenario, but a useful skill when dealing with these broads.
/r/TheRedPill05/11/15 08:11 PM
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I think sleeping next to someone you're fucking does things to you hormonally, gets you attached or something That's literally what happens. Ejaculation triggers an oxytocin/vasopressin response in order for you to develop temporary attachment to the woman you just fucked. It was an evolutionary mechanism designed to ensure you stuck around and raised children past their most vulnerable years. I wrote about this some time ago. Knowing how your body is designed to behave this way is the best way …
/r/askTRP05/11/15 04:51 PM
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That's what oneitis does to a man. Women can flip a switch in their heads and go into full battlemode to destroy you, while men spend those precious first few encounters self-handicapping themselves under the notion that a "loved one" would never take advantage of that. That's what the OP of your second example did wrong. He could have came out ahead if he similarly switched off his affection the moment he realized his autonomy was being threatened. The quote from Heat perfectly encapsulates the…
/r/TheRedPill05/11/15 02:33 PM
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Not a guarantee, but you can avoid women with the risk markers. Feminist women, women who have claimed to have been raped (whether true or false), women with any kind of mental issues like BPD, Borderlines, Anxiety, etc. They're the ones who are most likely to feed their insatiable narcissism with a good self-victimization story.
/r/TheRedPill05/11/15 02:17 PM
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Women who legitimately oppose having sex on the first date don't usually say it. They assume it's obvious. No way a guy would just move that fast, right? Women who spell out that they're not having sex on the first date say so precisely because they have a decorated past of fucking on the first date.
/r/TheRedPill05/11/15 02:11 PM
15

When you think about it, from a purely "winning" standpoint they are playing the game perfectly. Their moves are like a ruthless C-level officer using whatever legal and not-so-legal maneuver in their arsenal to get ahead of everyone else. From a Machiavellian perspective their game strategy is nearly flawless. Unless you possess information into their playbook, their strategy will always result in them being the winner in any social standoff. And there isn't a woman alive who doesn't in some wa…
/r/TheRedPill05/11/15 02:09 PM
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Women intuitively know how to say what's most socially acceptable. It's innate. And because they do it all the time, it's as natural as breathing to them. In their minds it's always better to tell a lie that preserves their social standing than to admit the truth. Go on a date with any woman over 25 and they'll all tell you they don't fuck on the first date, right up until the point you have them prostrated against the side of your bed pounding them furiously.
/r/TheRedPill05/11/15 12:31 PM
2

The thing with that is that even that scenario isn't all that bad for these women. They're simple creatures, they'll spend 8 hours at their empty desk job, spend the paycheque on clothes and shoes, then go get fucked by some Chad and call it a night. Or they could cut out the fucking bit altogether like the women in Japan. They don't really live for much more than that. Modern society is structured so that women never lose, and if they're leaning on a precipice then the government only needs ext…
/r/TheRedPill03/11/15 02:14 PM
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Male communal groups (Cigar clubs and the like) largely existed to rectify this issue. They've fallen out of favour alongside men not developing hobbies for themselves. The net result is that modern men are truly lost and without direction. Male mentoring is frighteningly rare these days. Ultimately, TRP is a replacement, albeit a lousy one, for that lack of male support structure.
/r/TheRedPill03/11/15 02:07 PM
1

There are some reasons to believe that certain aspects of being Jewish, both cultural and genetic, lend themselves towards becoming wealthy more often than one would expect. There are only 14 million Jews in the world, yet they account for 22% of Nobel prize winners. 46% of Jews make over $100,000 a year. It's not unthinkable to believe that it's more likely that a Jew will become ultra successful than other ethnicities.
/r/TheRedPill03/11/15 01:53 PM
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I'd argue that the inability to get sex/affection from women is the number one cause of male suicide. Countries like Japan and South Korea have high suicide rates mostly for this reason. It's not easy to get laid for the average male born there. Women have no concept of what it's like, and true to their solipsistic nature they can't even try to fathom what it's like. Problem is, we live in a feminine primacy society, meaning that focusing on these issues with the intent to resolve them will neve…
/r/TheRedPill03/11/15 01:40 PM
3

What about when the mother is single because the father decided to cheat? Either of two things, she knowingly married a man knowing his non-committal nature, or she was duped. The latter is far more rare than the former in my experience. s it possible we are mistaking what a true alpha male is or "co-alpha" as this particular blog called it? People often have trouble defining "alpha". The most simple definition is "a successful, highly valued individual". Chads are alphas with respect to their i…
/r/TheRedPill30/10/15 08:31 PM
5

I gave up my warm, comfortable Saturday mornings to attend CCNA classes several years ago. My salary has quite literally doubled since then. Keep at it. The prize at the end is worth it.
/r/TheRedPill30/10/15 04:11 PM
7

Not every homosexual is a faggot.
/r/TheRedPill30/10/15 04:05 PM
12

TRP is largely predicated on pragmatism. Ultimately we need to do what brings us personal happiness. Impotently raging against the machine does nothing towards that end, so it only follows that one should learn to play the game instead.
/r/TheRedPill30/10/15 01:43 PM
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"Don't say anything or act weird okay? He'd be really hurt if he found out" Said to me by a married chick in my wider friend circle. They have no remorse whatsoever, they know what they're doing is harmful.
/r/TheRedPill28/10/15 01:58 PM
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It doesn't ultimately matter how untruthful they are about this place. The rest of reddit demonizes us as if we literally sacrificed children to get our dicks wet. And yet their doing so has culminated in thousands of new subs. There will always be those whose curiousity will be piqued by a new phenomenon, and will go to see what it is for themselves. This movie can't really work against us.
/r/TheRedPill26/10/15 06:50 PM
18

Fantastic advice. I'm doing this right now, I've got a startup I'm working on with a partner while still at my 9-5 for the time being. Some advice; be very careful when you cross the two, most HR teams see it as a fireable offence. My partner mostly handles the calls during the day, and I use a VPN for accessing side-business related work. Sysadmins can see your traffic, so be careful what you access at work. Even if you don't mind working for someone else, salaried pay is peanuts. $100k isn't t…
/r/TheRedPill26/10/15 02:44 PM
8

You disagree on the basis that it feels wrong for you to do so, not that it's more effective, which it is. It's a Machiavellian strategy, and it works. You need to decide for yourself which is more important, your personal ideals for your work ethic, or advancing up the corporate chain. The two are mutually exclusive in cases like yours. This isn't a value judgement, merely how the game is played in the West.
/r/TheRedPill26/10/15 02:33 PM
7

I have precisely zero love for Hillary, but it simply can't be denied that she's a better politician than anyone else in the game right now. Sanders is going to get a dose of how Game Theory plays out when you constantly pick "Trust" with a Machiavellian.
/r/TheRedPill26/10/15 02:05 PM
8

If women are children, then Canadian women are the ones that sit in the corner eating crayons while drooling. They're a special breed of entitled little shits. The advice to ignore the words coming out of their mouth goes doubly true for them.
/r/TheRedPill25/10/15 02:24 PM
5

It's partly because women are much better at compartmentalizing reality than men. They're perfectly capable of picturing themselves as good, upstanding human beings by separating their good, empathetic behaviour from their psychotic, self-serving behaviour. Most women will mentally rewrite the facts such that she is a victim entitled to the things she's taking from others. In that way she only sees the good in herself. You could literally ask all 3.5 billion women if they think they're a good pe…
/r/TheRedPill23/10/15 01:18 PM
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Were that the case. "Good" discrimination, like male-only shelters, are met with opposition. They literally shut them down in Canada because they were too "controversial". If I recall correctly, the guy spearheading the shelters ended up killing himself.
/r/TheRedPill22/10/15 04:57 PM
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They'll do well in the first year. Computer Science draws all kinds of thirsty beta/omega losers (not to say they're all like that). They'll happily "help" them with their coursework. Of course, once they're in upper years and shit gets really complicated, all those supposed coder chicks find themselves up the creek without a paddle. You see this shit in a lot of male-dominated classes.
/r/TheRedPill22/10/15 04:55 PM
8

A thousand women go for a drive. Nine-hundred of them end up bumping into other women. A thousand men go for a drive. Nine-hundred and ninety-nine of them get home safely without issues, but one guy is a complete numbskull and decides he needs to drive 150 mph in a school zone. He smashes into a family killing all of them. Come to your own conclusions.
/r/TheRedPill21/10/15 10:53 PM
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They do. Women get in a great many more accidents per mile driven than men, but men tend to speed and get into much more expensive accidents. The largest payouts tend to be those with personal injury claims. Millions of soccer moms causing fender benders sadly doesn't add up to a few high-speed car ejections that careless men cause.
/r/TheRedPill21/10/15 10:45 PM
1

A better way to say it would be Alphas do whatever they want in order achieve their goals. That is the nuance that distinguishes it from the poor advice given earlier. Most people "do whatever they want" by sitting on the couch getting high and watching Netflix. Doing what you want while without impeding your personal goals is the Alpha (re: attractive) behaviour.
/r/TheRedPill21/10/15 01:54 PM
62

"Follow the money" If you want to understand the underlying mechanisms of most human behaviour, it pays to invest in the dynamics of incentivization. Nearly all human behaviour is rooted in some self-serving personal incentive. When you see retarded ads on tv, or some schlub shilling some new pseudo-intellectual book, or some whore spending hours making videos on Youtube about how video games are more oppressive than the house of Saud, take a minute and think, "Is there money exchanging hands he…
/r/TheRedPill21/10/15 01:37 PM
23

More of an attempt to steer people away from legitimately bad advice.
/r/TheRedPill20/10/15 10:22 PM
97

Pithy, but not inherently true. Marrying a single mother of 4 children from 4 different fathers, while being 200 lbs overweight doesn't make you a man by anyone's measure. Even if you stand by the fact that it's what you really want. Real men are masculine. Masculinity isn't wholly subjective.
/r/TheRedPill20/10/15 08:54 PM
1

Out of the countless thousands of men she walked by in her 10 Hours of Attention Whoring, how many of them do you think she would be happy to trade places with? Conversely, how many of them would love to swap out their lives for this entitled bitch's comfy sit-down-and-collect-paycheques life? Who's really privileged here? I wonder if shit like this is resonating in the mind of the average clueless beta. Her only real contribution in life as a human being may be to wake up more men.
/r/TheRedPill20/10/15 03:11 AM
7

The post-WW2 era was one in which safety and security were ideals that were held highly. You didn't have brazenly aggressive, in-your-face wymyn thinking they were invincible because no one felt that way. Women recognized that their safety was a complete function of the graces of the men around. They knew voting in favour of traditionalism was their ticket to the security they desire so much. A generation has passed in which no real threats exist to the Western world. Many women now grow up thin…
/r/TheRedPill20/10/15 02:45 AM
1

Because contrary to what people believe, looks aren't the only deciding factor. They're important, but things like photo quality and composition matter a ton too. Being interesting and not sounding like a boring beta matters a ton. Good looking guys taking shit photos handicap themselves. The guy obviously has charisma and speaks confidently, which is how he closes with the few women he does meet up with.
/r/askTRP18/10/15 09:51 PM
94

The OKCupid sub is worse than all the relationship subs combined. It's been entrenched with high testosterone, bitchy, post-wall women since day one. It was one of the first subs I browsed when I made this account nearly 7 years ago. Beta guys would come to the sub looking for help with their lack of game, and instead they're instructed on how to worship pussy. Even pre-TRP I knew the advice was shit. However, not knowing better most guys would do exactly what they were told. After all, women sh…
/r/TheRedPill18/10/15 02:33 PM
14

A barbell with several plates on it is the best anti-depressant. Once you get into a regular lifting routine it's amazing how your brain rewires itself along with your muscle growth.
/r/TheRedPill17/10/15 03:28 PM
2

Morality isn't pointless. It's only that it has no place here. This place is a collection of data. It's a guide on what works and what doesn't. If your personal morality dictates that you won't do something that's proven effective, then more power to you. This is not the sub for pushing your personal ideas of morality onto others.
/r/askTRP17/10/15 01:28 AM
3

That you invoke a "True Alpha" and use the word "should" suggests that you haven't really grasped the core of TRP. This sub is about maximizing your personal success and happiness. On an individual level, modern society isn't a problem that any given individual can solve. It's often youthful arrogance to assume you can really effect such a change by yourself. If raging against the machine brings you personal happiness, go for it, but leave your ideals to yourself. Not everyone cares for your cru…
/r/askTRP17/10/15 12:19 AM
2

Bier Markt on Esplanade. Had a lot of good times there. The one on King West is okay, but a more clique-y vibe. Great music and a younger crowd though. If you know how to dance, salsa nights at Six Degrees over at Yonge and Eglinton has been an easy pickup spot too.
/r/askTRP16/10/15 11:43 PM
3

Some of us recall a time way back when we didn't have our shit together. This is just one way we make sure others don't go through what we did. It's what we would have wanted for our younger selves.
/r/askTRP16/10/15 11:26 PM
12

I think it's quite brilliant that Taylor Swift understands the female psyche on such a deep level to make songs You're giving her far too much credit. For most men, the female psyche is deeply mysterious. But to a woman like Swift? It's all feelings and intuition. All the stuff we write in TRP, the countless thousands of pages of notes and observations, all of them are intuitive to the average woman. She may not be able to verbalize them clearly, but she knows exactly how the game works. It just…
/r/askTRP16/10/15 10:42 PM
2

Fair enough. Personally, "Straight From the Whores Mouth" encapsulates RP pretty well by being both direct and cheeky.
/r/TheRedPill16/10/15 10:26 PM
3

You can be stoic and still call people mean names. Don't get so worked up about what others might think of you for thinking less of someone. If it walks like a whore and talks like a whore, it's probably a whore. Call a spade a spade.
/r/TheRedPill16/10/15 10:07 PM
2

Obsessive Comparison Disorder Not sure if you made that up but that's fucking brilliant. There are people with actual disorders that are less handicapped than these attention-starved whores.
/r/TheRedPill13/10/15 10:14 PM
8

Maybe she's smarter than she's letting on. When there's something important you want done, you get a man to do it.
/r/TheRedPill13/10/15 10:12 PM
21

With women, words are literally reality. They're not bound by pesky details like facts and objectivity.
/r/TheRedPill13/10/15 10:08 PM
2

A big part of maintaining your partner's attraction is in establishing a constant image of competence. Being unable to buy your own shoes in a timely manner simply signals to her "My Captain is not a good leader". Doesn't matter if it's irrelevant to the way you normally handle things, women make all kinds of illogical connections. When she sees you not acting like a leader she's forced to step up in your place, and women hate having to do that. She wants you to lead. You need to be the image of…
/r/askTRP12/10/15 04:02 PM
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The reason for it, like virtually all sexual preference, is rooted in evolutionary biology. Historically men couldn't ensure their paternity. Having a natural aversion to sluts meant that you uccessfully procreated more often than the guy who was simply indifferent. There are a number of such adaptations. Children look more like the father upon being initially born as well, for this reason.
/r/TheRedPill12/10/15 03:30 PM
11

It always warms my heart to see a young buck make it. Nothing cements RP ideas more than seeing them play out like textbook in front of you. The less fucks you give, the more she does. Both figuratively and literally.
/r/TheRedPill11/10/15 02:29 PM
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Abusers use male privilege as well by doing things like treating her like a servant, making the decisions without her input But a woman having orbiters, and choosing to divorce a man against his will and take his kids away isn't privilege of any kind. Forcing him to pay you over half his paycheque isn't privilege of any kind. This sounds like some Kafkaesque nightmare. This type of nonsense can only ever happen to those experiencing apexes of prosperity. The American military wouldn't be subject…
/r/TheRedPill09/10/15 03:12 AM
3

Honestly, GLO is doing arguably the most RedPill thing, by building value and then leveraging it to further his success. That's the entire premise of this sub. His methodology is something to be observed and learned from, not to be scorned. Newbies especially should take note.
/r/TheRedPill09/10/15 02:45 AM
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You nailed it. It's a fascists' control tool. The pinnacle of Leftist ambition. It's literally only a step removed from actual Thought Crime. If this thing ever gets off the ground, you're going to have to be very careful what you say in the presence of a woman.
/r/TheRedPill03/10/15 03:22 PM
5

Or had rabid radfem mothers themselves. Probably the most common way an attractive woman ends up still becoming a feminist.
/r/TheRedPill02/10/15 05:42 PM
11

From what I'm reading, his father was absent as well. Don't doubt the mother's feminism played a part in that.
/r/TheRedPill02/10/15 05:22 PM
3

It's not the fix you're envisioning. It's fully legal up here in Canada, and things are unarguably worse for betas here. It's a shot of vodka to help assuage the pain of having your leg sawed off. Not a fix by any means.
/r/TheRedPill02/10/15 04:18 PM
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I've been saying this for a long time, there are no stable societies with an excess of disenfranchised men. If you push a man into a corner with absolutely nothing to lose, you will get results like this. Feminists ignorantly think they can indefinitely push people around without consequences, that people will just accept their misery in peace. Such is the critical thinking skillset of women. TRP would have helped this guy. Same with Elliott Rodger. These guys just needed real, actionable advice…
/r/TheRedPill02/10/15 02:01 PM
5

The modern man has a lot of child support and alimony to look forward to.
/r/TheRedPill01/10/15 08:59 PM
-9

No joke, the very first time I visited U.S. soil I went to a firing range. I refuse to call anyone who hasn't fired one an adult.
/r/TheRedPill01/10/15 08:58 PM
7

Trimming down the number of wombs hurts a tribe, trimming down the lowest-performing males boosts a tribe. Makes sense to me.
/r/TheRedPill01/10/15 01:18 PM
7

It's really interesting how male SMV works. I was also lucky enough to be born attractive, but grew up without male direction in my life. It's hard for a lot of people to believe that attractive guys can still be total losers and strike out with women. In my youth every relationship I was lucky enough to pull off was a ticking time bomb until she got fed up with my beta bullshit. They'd last months at the maximum. Learning to spit game changed everything. And to think that such things are so tab…
/r/TheRedPill01/10/15 01:15 PM
19

I've always internally thought of TRP as the Unifying Theory of Relationships. Most of us have seen bits and pieces of it here and there, but never has there been such a comprehensive compilation of it anywhere else.
/r/TheRedPill01/10/15 01:10 PM
1

Go forth and fuck, you have my blessings.
/r/TheRedPill01/10/15 01:01 PM
1

If they naturally came to those ideas, without any knowledge of TRP, would you consider him?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 05:54 PM
1

It clearly requires the accompaniment of something other than being covert, don't be obtuse. Unless it's your opinion that all covert activity is manipulative, in which case secretly buying presents for your partner is manipulative. You don't seem to have a response for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 05:46 PM
3

It's possible, sure. It's possible for the moon to be red sometimes too. Most the time it's not.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 05:30 PM
3

Yes, of course. We'd avoid discussion about the controversial topic. You can't logic someone out of a position they didn't logic into. Only life experience changes that, and a good parent knows that sometimes you need to let your children fail on their own to get it. No need to ostracize them because they lack your experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 05:21 PM
5

Then we'd have a falling out, but I'd still support them as my children. I grew up in a traditional, non-Western household, family bonds are unbreakable.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 05:16 PM
13

Some people are going to think this is tryhard, but it's worked fantastically for me: if you know a friend who's casually into photography, get them to snap a few semi-professional photos of you on their DSLR's. The quality of the photo itself makes an enormous difference. Couple that with good poses for the camera and you've already pole-vaulted ahead of legions of losers with their iPhone 2 potato photos. I'd even go so far as to propose getting them professionally done if you're serious about…
/r/TheRedPill30/09/15 05:12 PM
3

Given that all teenagers are stupid, I fully expect them to go through a phase or two. I intend to be somewhat strict in my parenting, but not draconian. Kids surprisingly do well in environments with clearly established rules and boundaries that are logical in nature. Teenagers have this wonderful quality in that after a decade or so they stop being teenagers. Eventually the good advice you planted years ago bear fruit. Unless your children are braindead jackasses (and you have only yourself to…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 05:00 PM
1

One correction: Being positive about women does not preclude sexism, nor does have negative opinions of them necessitate sexism. You're right that TRP is in general sexist when it comes to women though. It's rooted in the belief that we're biologically different.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 04:24 PM
1

The definition includes deception, which isn't present. Covert activities aren't inherently bad; I buy gifts covertly for my partner. Not a terrible crime by any measure.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 04:15 PM
0

Why is something being covert bad? I buy gifts for my partner in a covert fashion. Is that a horrible crime? It's clearly the deceptive part that's bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 04:14 PM
1

Every flock of sheep needs a shepherd.
/r/TheRedPill30/09/15 03:44 PM
2

The only difference in the pizza example and the relationship one is the unspoken nature of the latter. Women don't use direct communication, which is why TRP advises against it. The pizza-for-moving-help example is often, but not always, stated overtly because that's how men communicate. Does not saying it outright make it deceptive? Are you deceiving her, or are you making the situation very known to her by making her aware of the consequences?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 03:43 PM
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I suspect you don't hear much about it because men typically air their dirty laundry only in the presence of other trusted men. Wish I could say I've shared your experience, but I haven't. The majority of married men I know complain of missing their freedom, and how much they're nagged by their wives. They don't say it spitefully, and claim to love their wives and married life, but they do wish that they had more genuine appreciation in their lives. Number one biggest complaint. Regarding female…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 03:38 PM
2

Didn't answer the question.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 03:34 PM
5

Yeah, sounds about right.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 03:33 PM
0

Do you think dread game is manipulation then? Seems to not fit your definition, since it's overtly offering X (a relationship) in exchange for Y (her respecting you).
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 03:32 PM
1

Of course. Mind you, I'd heavily steer them towards LTR-minded men, not those wishing to spin plates. Male sexual strategy is directly at odds with female sexual strategy. Of course I'd guide her towards maximizing hers. It's what a good father would want for his children. I'm starting a family soon, so this has been on my mind quite a bit.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 03:30 PM
1

So it's just the label that you dislike? What if he espoused many TRP-specific ideas, without knowing anything about the sub itself?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 03:14 PM
6

The "mysterious" thing is showing simple, genuine appreciation for your man. And not in the way you perceive appreciation from a feminine perspective; men want to be appreciated the way men do. In Bill's anecdote, creating a sandwich for him, without being asked, and giving him a little bit of personal time was that thing. Most married men would agree that Western women surprisingly can't be bothered to even do that. Western society focuses on female primacy, so women can literally do no wrong i…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 03:07 PM
5

I'll save everyone the effort. Fat girl #1 Fat girl #2
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 02:59 PM
0

I suspect that's only the case because getting sex isn't rare for women. I'd imagine that women would feel much like men do now if both sex and love were both rare, as it is for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 02:57 PM
5

Is negotiating a raise unethical? Is convincing your friends to help you move, with the promise of buying them pizza unethical? Is any act to effect a certain behaviour in another individual unethical? Your definition seems so broad as to include everyone, including yourself, I suspect.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 02:54 PM
11

Believe me, they're gross over-exaggerations. I live in Canada but I frequently travel south, and have family there. Americans have life really good. Ignore the millennial angst you see on reddit, it's a huge mischaracterization of the country.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 01:57 PM
5

Not liking something doesn't make it less of a reality. Women are more classist than men by far; they're much more concerned with status than men are. When women go BB-hunting that very class is the first thing they look for.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 01:54 PM
5

Not before some serious social and economic instability. There are no stable societies with an excess of disenfranchised men. One needs only look at Japan or the Middle East. Disenfranchised women get depressed and complain. Disenfranchised men are dangerous.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 01:51 PM
6

They've given an entire generation trauma flashbacks whenever they see measuring sticks.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 01:48 PM
3

You can't negotiate attraction. You need an overpowering level of indoctrination in order to do so. The only thing that has ever worked historically is religion. Women are biologically driven to seek out the top males. More so than the reverse.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 01:46 PM
15

You're not wrong. The idea that violence is never the answer is one of the most feminine ideas to ever become mainstream. Violence is most definitely the answer some of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 01:44 PM
6

The reason why "get back to the kitchen" is worse for women is because women are more affected by that social stigma than men. "Neckbeard virgin" is the male equivalent that has virtually no impact on women. Men and women experience life differently, and thusly have different insecurities. Women would love to see gender-attributed insults go away because those are the ones that actually hurt them. Similar to how men would love for masculinity-challenging insults to go away. It's not that one is …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 01:39 PM
3

When people troll and bully others online, they use the most effective tactics. With men, it's in challenging their masculinity ("You're a fag", "homo", "cocksucker", "neckbeard virgin" etc). Such threats aren't as effective on women since they don't experience life the way men do. Instead, their biggest insecurities stem from body image, social image and loss of bodily control ("I'll rape you bitch", "Fat slut", "Get back to the kitchen whore"). Notice how these threats would be laughable if le…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 01:35 PM
3

Rush is a Machiavellian wordsmith, much like Bill O'Reilly. They're good debaters and orators, which is how they earn a buck. They're too smart to believe most of their bullshit.
/r/TheRedPill30/09/15 01:29 PM
2

I'm assuming you mean charity that isn't meant to improve your social standing, which is a very valid, RP method of getting ahead. Charity only conflicts with RP ideas when it limits your ability to self-advance. Once you've reached a certain threshold you can be more generous with your time and disposable income without limiting yourself. Personally speaking, I donate to charities that aid causes that are important to me. Men's causes, like homelessness and suicide. I volunteer my time here and…
/r/TheRedPill30/09/15 01:17 PM
1

The person who isn't even prepared to challenge their long-held ideas about genders.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/15 10:00 PM
1

You touched on a little secret known to a lot of upper crust elites. Generosity in the form of frequent, small handouts opens up a lot of doors. They say that you should reserve 10% of your income for these purposes and I'm inclined to agree. Obviously not for everyone, you need to have your expenses covered first. It's the single easiest way to get into high networth circles and collect high SMV friends.
/r/TheRedPill29/09/15 06:16 PM
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I remember going through the same thing around the turn of the millennium, that screaming internal voice ripping a hole through your stomach is something hard to get past. Thing is, it'll never be as bad as that first time. After you get used to the whole thing you wonder why it ever bothered you at all. Keep at it, you did well for a first run.
/r/TheRedPill29/09/15 06:07 PM
2

Fair enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/15 03:36 PM
3

If people are falling for it then too bad :/ I sympathize with them and anyone who gets scammed Pick one.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/15 03:32 PM
1

Don't need to know you. The few sentences you've shared are illuminating enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/15 03:23 PM
1

That's not the argument I was making, spare me that tired BP counterpoint. It doesn't matter how bad it is, women do not sympathize with weak men. Both these things are identical in process, only worse in outcome for the women. But you don't feel less sympathy for men, you feel none. That's the point you're missing.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/15 03:18 PM
1

There is no nuance here. You're only sympathetic to things that women are prone to, not those that men are. You empathize with those who are sex trafficked because you know it's only women affected. You say you'd sympathize with men in that situation knowing men aren't affected by it. Male protector instinct is something you're not aware you're being controlled by.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/15 03:16 PM
2

If people are falling for it then too bad :/ Can't have empathy for men now, can we.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/15 02:55 PM
1

It's exactly the same, the only difference is that you're incapable of having empathy towards men. You're not self-aware of it, but you've demonstrated it all the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/15 02:53 PM
5

Presumably after Chad has nexted you for the chick working the cashier. She's got bigger tits anyhow.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/15 02:45 PM
8

but I think most can acknowledge that women can get much shittier treatment than men on the internet No, I don't agree to that at all, and that's the problem. You've presumed victimhood, without any evidence. Men have been getting shit on the internet since time immemorial. It's just that women now use it more frequently as well, and they're starting to experience it. They don't have it worse. They have it the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/15 02:43 PM
2

While this is certainly true for the most part, you've probably noticed that most TRP advice amounts to doing non-nerdy things. Including giving up video gaming. That said, there is a sizable portion of non-nerds, and they're typically the ones dispensing the advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/15 02:41 PM
5

McDonalds' dollar menu is still dinner. Just sayin'
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/15 02:38 PM
1

It's hard to measure something like this. Are you basing it off approaches alone? Because you'd be hard-pressed to get very high numbers, simply because of the nature of vetting for receptive women. A lot of the time you reject them too. I think online dating probably gives a more realistic view. I got response well over half the time, could convert around a third of those to actual dates. I eventually got better at selecting for women who were less likely to flake, so that number went up consid…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/15 02:37 PM
1

Some of us transition from one to the other. Can't really stop us.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/15 02:34 PM
1

Is that how you feel about women who get tricked into prostitution? Too bad?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/15 02:31 PM
11

Worded differently, he could have just as easily said "Worse in some ways, better in others. You don't value the things that she's better at".
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/15 02:28 PM
6

It's my usual strategy when I screw up; sincere apologies, food, sex. That's every woman's strategy. Apologize, then get Chad to buy you dinner and rail him without beta boyfriend's knowledge. Beta will forgive you and all will be back to normal.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/15 02:25 PM
2

MGTOW still fuck women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/15 02:21 PM
7

What do you call being able to solicit the United Nations to censor criticism, something that the largest corporations in the world can't do? Privilege.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/15 02:21 PM
5

Yep, her and Zoe Quinn of GamerGate fame.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/15 02:20 PM
20

Dread is the Yin to values' Yang. Need both for harmony. Some guys seem to be hung up about having to employ dread life-long.
/r/TheRedPill29/09/15 02:02 PM
6

Can't really blame the guy if he grew up in a society that told him that the morally upstanding thing to do was spend his 20's making money to have a shot with a used up slut. He's simply acting according the the script that society set for him.
/r/TheRedPill29/09/15 01:23 PM
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It's the consequence of granting one demographic unilateral power to act on whatever they desire, with the assurance that they'll never experience consequences. Imagine if tomorrow you were allowed to do anything, no rules, no laws, no restrictions, no consequences. How well would you behave? Women have had this luxury for a few decades now.
/r/TheRedPill29/09/15 01:21 PM
3

No, you've misattributed my experience. What you think is empathy is merely your current state of attraction. Male weakness undermines that attraction, and severs your ability to feel empathy. I'm sure you're balking at the suggestion, but I guarantee you it's because you haven't yet been placed in that situation yet. Further, as a woman you're incapable of reconciling negative ideas about yourself with reality. I'd wager it's you who were fortunate to have had a good background. Those of us who…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/15 01:13 PM
1

You'd end up nexting every woman you came across. It's just easier to find outlets other than your romantic partner for discussing your struggles. In any event, you'd do well to avoid the "If it's not happening to me it can't happen at all" mindset. Very easy to trip up and fall like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/15 07:09 PM
1

You may even have been generous with the number of highly successful males. What of it? It's a sub meant for recovering betas, a process that can take years. The sub has only existed for just shy of 3 years. To me that doesn't strike me as a particularly unexpected outcome. Truly, the longer the sub is around the more we should expect it to be predominantly betas learning how to unprogram themselves. It's why the EC system and the corresponding respect is necessary.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/15 06:13 PM
2

The entirety of your post sounds like you derived it from your personal feelings. How did you come to the conclusion that sexually successful men don't have time to write in online forums? Are there no attractive people online? Did you actually try OmLaLa's guide? Or did you just assume the outcome? It almost certainly sounds like the latter. I've actually done very well dating online about half a decade ago. OmLaLa's guide is spot on, and not just because of the numbers aspect. I learned it all…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/15 06:11 PM
5

No, I disagree entirely. This is more of the BP propaganda that women are capable of empathizing with men and only the "bad" women behave poorly in the presence of male weakness. Men should never be weak or vulnerable in front of their women. Ever. In the best case scenario it only mildly negatively affects her perception of you. Her opinion of you will never increase because of it. Women are incapable of empathy towards men. I've had multiple discussions with RP-aware women in this sub who repe…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/15 06:05 PM
4

I think it has to do with men's boner tolerances. Men, generally speaking, will fuck the top 70th percentile (HB4 --> HB10). This means that any woman in that range has the potential to be fucked by hot men. Women who are HB1-HB3 never have this experience. Their expectations are tempered based on their reality. Other uggoes are their only options. They don't feel like male 7+'s are a reality. Conversely, female HB4-HB8's all feel like they can snag the calibre of alpha they fucked earlier in li…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/15 06:01 PM
2

I wouldn't seriously date a woman long-term that wasn't college-educated. I've been with dumb women, they're good for sex and not much else. A lot of college-educated women are still dumb as bricks, but at least a good number of them have been filtered. That said, it's the career-chasing that's the huge turn off. A woman that sees herself climbing the corporate ladder is a waste of my time. I make enough for the two of us. I need a good mother, not a business partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/15 05:53 PM
2

the low when she comes around to collect That's an interesting way to describe a literal knife to the kidneys. BPD women are seriously bad news. We throw around a lot of hyperbole around here, but never dating a BPD/Borderline chick isn't one of them. Not even once.
/r/TheRedPill28/09/15 05:47 PM
1

The feels over realz mindset, where they believe that if they act friendly and smile that everyone will act in kind. It's a mindset only brought about by those who grew up facing no danger in their lives. Hence, middle-class white women. They foolishly assume that by inviting Muslims to their countries that the worst consequence will be an excess of shawarma restaurants.
/r/TheRedPill28/09/15 05:34 PM
1

Anticipate the worst, but hope for the best. Even when you have all your ducks in a row it's all a big gamble. Trick is to mentally prepare yourself for the worst case scenario so you're not eaten up every day by these kinds of concerns.
/r/TheRedPill28/09/15 05:06 PM
1

Intelligent women have some of the most masterful hamsters. The cognitive hoops and hurdles they come up with are far more difficult to dismantle than those of a dumber woman. Same process, just more elegant.
/r/TheRedPill28/09/15 05:04 PM
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It took me decades to properly learn how to be masculine. I've no doubt that if I were to do it all over again with my knowledge intact that I could guide a young man towards the right path, and have been doing my part here on TRP towards that end. But raising a young woman? I couldn't fathom guiding her blindly the way most of us blindly charted the waters as young men. It'd almost be considered cruel. Even though I understand what ideals a good woman should have, I don't doubt for a second tha…
/r/TheRedPill28/09/15 04:26 PM
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It's exemplified with women who chase higher level degrees. They look down on those who haven't done similar. Even if you happen to have more earning power (which in all likelihood you do, Graduate school pays almost nothing). It's all about that status. Once you're a somebody do you elevate yourself as being "good enough" for them and their hard-earned degree. Meanwhile, women a decade younger with no such pretenses are more attractive in all departments. They're setting themselves up, and I'd …
/r/TheRedPill28/09/15 02:45 PM
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The fuck is everyone trying to shame OP? This isn't the fucking Feminism sub. OP, there's only one way to look at it. You leave whatever tip you want. You aren't legally, morally, or spiritually obligated to give one. The obvious corollary is that people will perceive you to be an asshole, regardless of your circumstance. It's a social expectation, and deviating from social norms gets you labelled an asshole. The question is, do you care? Do you care what some barista who you'll never meet again…
/r/askTRP26/09/15 12:43 AM
1

You made the claim that we lack credentials to be authoritative.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/15 07:13 PM
1

You made the implication that we lack the credentials to make the assertions we're making, which suggests that there exists some level of credentials that is sufficient. That is what you stated. So what is sufficient to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/15 03:11 PM
1

Let me ask you this, what do you qualify as sufficient credentials to assert what is real science and what is not?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/15 02:22 PM
6

Good call. Maybe we just need more boy bands then.
/r/TheRedPill25/09/15 02:21 PM
2

While he's coming across harshly, his point is cogent. There exists a class of men who in their current state are literally unattractive to the entire female population. It's not as small as you might imagine, I'd wager it's as high as 5-10% of men. There is absolutely no equivalent for women. Even the ugliest woman has options, albeit poor ones. You will never experience this aspect of being male. You cannot possibly understand this unless you've had several male incel friends. If you have any …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/15 02:20 PM
2

The range is much wider for men. Most men would fuck in women in the top 60th percentile or so, give or take based on circumstance and abundance. Most women are not content to fuck anything less than the top 20th percentile or so.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/15 02:09 PM
2

Are you kidding? Literally every time this type of comment is made, the go-to response from the BP camp is that "your standards are probably too high. Lower them and you'll see results". It's asinine for the reasons Arch stated. Not all men can go down, when women can date up.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/15 02:07 PM
2

There's a huge issue with reproducibility in Psychology, far more than it exists in harder sciences. Couple that with the inherent left-wing bias in all of academia and you have the recipe for creating a system where you can push any interpretation of reality to further your agenda. TRP rejects it because it's simply propaganda a lot of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/15 01:59 PM
1

Some of us have actually worked in academia. I'd wager that makes us more qualified than a lot of others, at the very least.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/15 01:53 PM
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This is purely anecdotal, but I've seen quite a few vulvas in my lifetime. The type of woman who is inclined to be highly promiscuous more often than not has an ugly vulva. If I had to wager a theory for it, I'd be inclined to think it has to do with elevated pre-natal testosterone levels, causing their genitalia to warp and look more male-like. You see this with chicks who take roids. Fucking a ton in and of itself doesn't change a woman's vulva, not noticeably anyhow.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/15 01:50 PM
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Those things get you through only the first door, getting a woman to potentially date/fuck you. They're not enough for getting them to remain committed to you. How do you explain the success of /r/marriedredpill and Athol Kay's MMSLP? How do you explain those of us who are finally able to have long, stable, satisfying LTR's?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/15 01:47 PM
1

Women pick up on social clues much, much better than men. Often because they legitimately care about how others feel in a social situation. Men can sometimes do the same with some deep introspection, but women just naturally intuit it. I couldn't ever see myself living with anything other than a IDGAF attitude, but I do admire that there are those that naturally seek to elevate others feelings where possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/15 01:44 PM
2

It's very low from my reckoning, I've seen weeks-old accounts post on TRP all the time. The vast, vast majority of TRP'ers can post. It honestly sounds like you're willing to make up any facts to hold onto your original premise. Biased.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/15 01:40 PM
1

What? Anyone can post on TRP if they've been there for more than a few days. Where are you getting that from?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/15 01:36 PM
2

This is my experience as well. Rounding up the boys to go for an impromptu trip isn't too hard, getting the women to do it is like pulling teeth. Unless it's something that a lot of people are already committed to, then it becomes a big social event.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/15 01:33 PM
1

I posted in your last thread that statistically there should be at least 390 6'+ men making over 100k. I can't remember the last time I saw anyone claiming to be both. You didn't respond to that one, I'm assuming you're not going to respond to this one either because you're simply here to troll.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/15 01:31 PM
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There are a lot of people who thought this post by /u/illimitableman was overblown or hyperbolic. Honestly, he was too charitable if anything. There is nothing a good mother wouldn't be willing to do to secure a future for her child, and if that means outplaying you using whatever brilliant Machiavellian strategy needed, she will. Using a baby as bait is one of the softer tools in her disposal. Tricking you into adopting fatherhood-by-proxy, creating another oopsie-baby, or using your own self-w…
/r/TheRedPill25/09/15 01:22 PM
5

Happened to my uncle. Had to loan him a ton of money to help out.
/r/TheRedPill25/09/15 01:15 PM
8

College-aged white, liberal middle-class women are probably the dumbest shits on the planet. We need a war or something to keep them from getting bored and stirring up shit.
/r/TheRedPill25/09/15 01:14 PM
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Oh sweet summer child... That's just the tip of the iceberg. Not only do they toss you in the slammer for not making payments, but if your income drops, you need to challenge your payments in a court to get it reduced. A process that can take months. What happens if you can't make payments while you're not earning money? Better hope you like orange jumpsuits.
/r/TheRedPill25/09/15 01:11 PM
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Want to know a universal truism about women? They're always unhappy about something, and to them it's always the worst thing ever. An ugly girl is unhappy about being ugly. An attractive woman is unhappy about the attention she's getting. Women are a bucket with a hole in it, there is literally no way to keep their happiness topped up.
/r/TheRedPill25/09/15 01:08 PM
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The person who I originally replied to is literally a prostitute who enjoys having sex with virgins. By her own admission. Call me crazy, but I don't think that accurately describes many women, much less most.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/15 03:50 PM
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I'll take your word for it, but it still doesn't invalidate the fact that it's very atypical.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/15 03:33 PM
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There are literally women in this sub posting how they are put off by high numbers. Like this one.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/15 03:32 PM
8

I'm pretty sure most women aren't literal prostitutes that find sex with virgins fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/15 03:28 PM
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I don't think it's a stretch to say that your situation is definitely different than most people's experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/15 03:17 PM
1

If you're LTR chasing you're not applying the same standards for sex. Different standards for different goals. My own LTR wanted to wait a few weeks before we had sex, but she'd only had one partner before me. Of course expecting her to put out on the second night wasn't going to pan out, that's how she kept her number low.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/15 03:01 PM
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Because a higher count works in favour of men, but it's cheating to simply pay for it. A higher count simply works against women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/15 02:53 PM
1

No, I disagree about the media being right-leaning. The most popular newspapers here are the Star and the Metro, both very left-leaning. The Globe is popular but not as much as those two. National Post has nothing on any of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/15 02:25 PM
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Think about what's going on in that beta's mind right now. He's on cloud nine. This is his "big break". He's fucking the hottest girl that ever gave him attention, and she wants to marry him. He thinks he's lucky. Informing him of his bride-to-be will only engage his hamster. He'll rationalize why that doesn't matter, if he believes you at all. He genuinely believes they're mutually in love. It sadly takes life experience to recognize why that situation is terrible.
/r/TheRedPill24/09/15 02:18 PM
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The exact comments aren't clear, but you can use your imagination. He made a joke about having a "big dongle" and how he's good at "forking". In what world does saying that to a receptive person justify termination? Because that's insanity to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/15 02:02 PM
1

Trust me, if it weren't for the suburbs Toronto would be a wash of red. I've lived here all my life. The current mayor was the best of a group of mediocre options. Chow really only lost because she has the personality of burnt toast. Lots and lots of people wanted to vote her in, but she didn't engender confidence. Tory is actually pretty centrist. You have to understand that Ford only won because he used the Trump tactic of bluster and confidence in a sea of candidates that were meek and pathet…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/15 01:50 PM
2

If I can't convince you that it's wrong to make someone lose their jobs over a harmless joke meant for a receptive party, then nothing I can say will convince you of the craziness of Feminism. You endorse it wholeheartedly.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/15 01:07 PM
1

I could live to 80 and I'll still never live down the shame of Ford. Didn't vote for him though.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/15 01:06 PM
1

I've always had fondness for Eastern Canada, but that just cemented it for me. You can imagine what it's like being a Conservative in Toronto.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/15 03:01 AM
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No, I mean Feminists who get guys fired for laughing about the word dongle.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/15 02:59 AM
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Feminism goes a little bit further than say a sports rivalry. Many feminists feel it's okay to make a man lose his job if he believes things that are contrary to their narrative, for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/15 12:38 AM
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I'm sure half their future earnings in alimony is quite awesome. Women always speak highly of their betas when they're in the epiphany phase. One more reason to listen to a woman's actions and not her words.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 05:52 PM
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29-30 was the magic year for all the women in my circle. The fact that so few of them deviated from it is pretty funny to me. Textbook epiphany phase behaviour.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 05:28 PM
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I agree actually. My problem is that feminism teaches men to behave in a way that is not conducive to getting laid or getting the respect of women. It only makes their problems worse, not better. A society that properly teaches men how to be masculine will have fewer problems with life-long incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 05:22 PM
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I was 20 when I lost my virginity. My libido literally changed once I started having sex with more than one woman concurrently. It's most definitely a mental thing. Something about the reassurance that I could get laid without too much effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 05:05 PM
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That's exactly my point. Every 25 year old I knew said exactly what you're saying. And some ~80% of them are now mommies. When you were 15 you had no idea what being 25 would be like. Your 25 year old self doesn't know what 35 year old you will be like, unless you're actually talking to a bunch of those 35 year olds about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 05:03 PM
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I disagree with the living healthy bit. Being a virgin into your 20's has some very real mental health effects, similar to how forced isolation causes mental instability in most people. We are a social species, and while it's not as important a need as food or air, it most definitely is a need.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 05:01 PM
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http://gifrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/Jennifer-Lawrence-ok-thumbs-up.gif Funny how the women I knew when I was 25 miraculously changed their ways once all their friends started having kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 04:38 PM
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Feminism is deeply integral to Toronto's past. It's much more entrenched here than in Chicago (visited, by the way. Beautiful city) Women who are 4-7's look down on average guys. They believe they're entitled to anything and everything. Worse, there are legions of thirsty white knight betas that thoroughly back them up. Every CC rider here has a comfortable, rich cushion to fall back on once she's used up. Female sexual primacy is highly revered here, men figuratively willingly cut off their own…
/r/askTRP23/09/15 04:36 PM
2

Well there you go.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 04:31 PM
2

Are you a feminist?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 04:29 PM
2

You sound exactly like a teenage woman. Trust me when I say that you'll change your tune once you have children. There's wisdom in it that you won't get elsewhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 04:29 PM
2

Nothing screams "I'm a low-value attention whore, pay attention to me" than dying your hair some neon colour. It's to feminists what fedoras are to neckbeards.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 04:18 PM
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For every one of the women you describe I can think of a dozen who burned got burned out by riding the CC. Playing the lottery is a great idea if you actually win too.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 04:18 PM
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Average dudes have it harder in Toronto. If you're legit ugly you've got an uphill battle here. If it's seriously important for you I'd strongly consider relocating.
/r/askTRP23/09/15 04:15 PM
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No, she can't. Like it or not, women have very real biological realities to deal with. A good parent knows when to guide their children, the hands-off approach isn't always best.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 04:06 PM
3

It's not as important once you've had it a few times. It disproportionately affects incels. I don't nearly need it as much now either, but it was an all-consuming thought way back as a virginal teen.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 03:58 PM
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Because contrary to what you likely believe about TRP'ers, I actually do care about women. I have sisters, female cousins and likely will have daughters that will grow up in a world that encourages behaviours that lead to their unhappiness. Feminism does not actually create an environment that leads to female happiness. I know all too well what it's like to live up believing a lie. I don't want that for anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 03:55 PM
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Other studies have shown that motherhood is typically what women report as their greatest source of happiness in life. With marriage and birthrates dropping, it's really not hard to put 2 and 2 together.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 03:48 PM
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No, a lot of women won't, that's the lie that Feminism is desperate to sell. Women are unhappier now than at any point in the past, that's an established fact. "Where have all the good men gone?" isn't borne out of nothing. You might be fine, but it's callous to be indifferent to other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 03:39 PM
2

Definitely this. I've seen it more than a few times with women who married early and are still young. They see nothing wrong with collecting orbiters to keep their lives interesting. They assume their ring will make it obvious to guys of their platonic intentions.
/r/askTRP23/09/15 03:37 PM
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It's perfectly okay. But the reality is that most women are simply eliminating options from their pool, since all women want those same top-SMV men. A PhD does nothing to make a woman more attractive to those men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 03:30 PM
2

Literally all of that applies to myself as well, yet my experience has been different. It's one thing to be in a liberal centre and another to be one where Feminism is a deep, integral part of the city's past. My partner is one of the few people I know that openly adopts RP beliefs.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 03:28 PM
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They're not the "kill all men, keep a few for breeding stock" types, but they most definitely hate them enough to want to see them suffer a bit. I live in one of the most feminist-friendly cities in the world. You can't throw a rock without hitting a blue-haired chick railing about how men are the cause of all her life's problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 03:21 PM
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The only difference between that hypothetical world and this one is in the acceptance of the fact that women typically only want to date their own level and above. You reject hypergamy, so naturally you come to the conclusion that you have.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 03:19 PM
3

Not the mainstream definition I've heard, but refreshingly more honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 03:13 PM
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So you'd always choose career over life partner. Can you understand why women in that hypothetical world might have different values and choose not to pursue a PhD though? Can you appreciate how it would be a perfectly logical decision congruent towards her life goals?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 03:12 PM
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I'm not surprised that you can't be intellectually honest enough to answer my simple hypothetical. It speaks volumes to the mental tricks you'll play to ignore reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 03:01 PM
3

Kind of flies against "Feminism is an equality movement" then? "Feminism is a female empowerment movement" is more apt.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 02:58 PM
4

Feminists want to ban that too.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 02:57 PM
2

Sex is much, much higher on the list of needs for men than it is for women. I can't really explain this to you if you don't already grasp it, it just is.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 02:56 PM
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It's concerned with every aspect of women getting laid. From freedom to do so, to removing judgement against their indiscretions, to enabling all options after pregnancy/marriage/divorce. Feminism cares a ton about women getting laid, but not at all about men getting laid. Some equality.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 02:55 PM
4

What if you also wanted a life partner?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 02:53 PM
3

Even inferiority of one aspect isn't "inferiority of person". Women are strictly inferior when it comes to physical strength, but no one would use that as an argument for why women are inferior on the whole. It seems odd to me that TBP ignores the things that women are superior at as "not counting", if they're not superior at everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 02:51 PM
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Let's try a thought experiment. Let's say you're transported to a world where your degree was the sole thing that determined whether or not someone would date you. Nothing else. The more advanced your degree, the less likely you'd be with someone. In this hypothetical world, would you pursue a PhD?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 02:49 PM
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Not saying this to attack you, but you likely live in a sheltered bubble. You probably live in a large metropolis, with only Liberal friends. 100% of your experience seems completely at odds with what you see online, because naturally you wouldn't associate with those who are different. Except online, of course. RPW exist if you go looking for them, just like Conservative Canadians (representing). You just need to leave your liberal circle. Neither is like the caricature you have of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 02:40 PM
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Feminists absolutely hate men...that aren't kowtowing to their exact set of beliefs. Try living in a feminist mecca. If you so much as imply you have a singular different belief from them you are essentially dead to them. And they will use that knowledge as justification for ruining your life. I wish I were exaggerating.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 02:35 PM
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Doesn't really work like that. The majority of feminists makes up what constitutes feminism, not what you aspire for it to be. You're right in that it's what it should have been, but it's not.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 02:33 PM
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This is my take on it too. Feminism paints a picture where women are completely incapable of accomplishing anything without men giving it to them. It also paints women as incapable of exercising agency the way men do; when a bad thing happens to a woman, she's treated like a child. One only needs to look at how differently drunk sex is treated to see it. Feminism is more misogynistic than TRP will ever be.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 02:31 PM
1

Even MGTOW is a poor primary resource for what TRP is. I think perhaps you have an innate bias and like hearing the answers they give.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 03:08 AM
2

Probably more than it would help heterosexual women. Also depends on if you're typically the more submissive or the more dominant partner in the relationship.
/r/askTRP22/09/15 07:13 PM
1

Literally the same argument for fat-shaming.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 06:09 PM
4

Blacked out doesn't mean passed out, it means to the point where she doesn't remember the events the next day. Fucking a passed out chick is clearly rape, that's not what I'm asking. Most feminists classify black-out drunk as too drunk to consent. What's your answer?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 06:07 PM
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You didn't answer my question.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 06:01 PM
3

It's always about the money. How many female viewers would watch a show that prioritized male sexual imperatives? A show where a cad pumped and dumped women for new, hotter options. It's TV marketed to women. Of course it's going to be setup to pander to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 05:56 PM
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No, that's not how a lot of feminists define it. Most would argue that if a woman is too drunk to remember (i.e. blackout drunk) then she wasn't in a position to consent. It's very possible for a blackout drunk to still be moving and functional, albeit impaired.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 05:53 PM
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Most of us were. I was literally indistinguishable from a modern BP'er over a decade ago. We found out through trial and error that BP (i.e. mainstream) advice doesn't work unless you happen to unwittingly have innate value and a fraction of luck on your side. TRP exists to guide men going through the same thing so that they don't have to fall and stumble on their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 05:52 PM
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What a nonsense post. You realize TRP isn't a perfect subset of the general population right? Even if we were to humour you, 6' or greater is 15% of the pop. TRP is 130k readers strong. So 19500 TRP'ers are 6' or taller. 2% of that is 390. How many posts would you wager someone claimed to have made claiming to have both (nevermind the obvious correlation between height and wealth)? At most a dozen or two. Do you really think ~20 users out of 390 is an impossible feat? Further, guess who's going …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 05:44 PM
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Not sure I follow. Let's say you both get blackout drunk, but you're still able to do basic motor functions (fingering, oral sex, etc). Who, if anyone, raped who in that scenario?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 05:36 PM
3

What happens when both are extremely drunk?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 05:32 PM
1

That only solidifies his point. None of those are good primary sources for TRP knowledge.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 05:30 PM
2

TRP never advocates for people's preferences. You're free to like whatever you want. If post-wall sluts with four kids from four dads is your thing, go for it. TRP merely offers advice practical advice; dating such a woman would be a colossally bad decision. Practically speaking, you should behave differently. TRP is a praxeology. The entirely of TRP is rooted in pragmatism, not advocacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 05:26 PM
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Do you believe the inverse is true for men? Is it possible for a man to be too drunk to give consent?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 05:20 PM
4

You nailed it. Post-secondary education serves as a means to differentiate yourself from the masses. It's already starting in Ontario for Bachelor's degrees to be the normal expectation for getting hired, and Graduate degrees being the means of differentiation. The reality is, not everyone can win. Life is a competition, not everyone can get first place.
/r/askTRP22/09/15 04:43 PM
2

The truth is almost always somewhere in between Argument to moderation fallacy
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 01:13 PM
1

The average 20-something doesn't have a very developed worldview, no, but at least the ones in TRP have the benefit of the wisdom imparted to them of those much older.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 01:12 PM
2

By BP, I mean those with mainstream beliefs, not the BluePill sub specifically.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 01:10 PM
2

There's a world of difference between a religious, traditional household, and a non-religious traditional household. Guarantee the ones you were referring are of the former variety.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/15 08:52 PM
1

Start measuring your calories precisely. Slap on another 500-1000 a day. It's possible that you simply don't process all of the calories you consume due to an inefficient metabolism. Chocolate milk is a good way to get extra cals in if you're struggling to eat more. When lifting, be extra careful with joints and ligaments. Be mind of strain you're feeling, especially with your shoulders. Need to be extra careful, as there's a maximum load they can take irrespective of your muscle strength. Chang…
/r/askTRP21/09/15 07:02 PM
1

It's not always the case. Some guys have seriously inefficient metabolisms. It's possible to put away thousands of calories but only process a fraction of it.
/r/askTRP21/09/15 06:57 PM
1

Both are possibilities for women in that range. Self-reinforcing too, women who are unattractive are less likely to act out on their hypergamous instincts for fear of not securing another partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/15 06:55 PM
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Religious upbringing isn't RP. Religion enforces beta behaviour in men, it just correspondingly demands that women value that behaviour over alpha behaviour.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/15 06:36 PM
1

I did no such thing. I never stated that it was impossible to come to those mathematical averages.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/15 06:25 PM
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That's exactly the opposite point the user was making though. What you stated is in line with RP beliefs, that the top 20% of men get the vast majority of the sexual partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/15 06:22 PM
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I suspect that both the women in this sub and TBP are on the older side. They tend to be the ones that are most bitter about TRP and anti-feminists, i.e. those that discuss women as a depreciating asset.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/15 06:06 PM
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Arch is one of the most prominent RP'ers. Author of one of the more important RP pieces written since the sub's creation.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/15 06:05 PM
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No, UW. But there were way too few chicks, so I hopped down the road for easier action.
/r/askTRP21/09/15 05:26 PM
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How is that an argument for morality? I don't associate "correctness" with "moral superiority". I understand you do, but that's not how I think. As a less attractive guy, yeah, you won't have the benefits of a more attractive guy. I get it. Not going to begrudge that point. TRP only ever states that you can maximize your potential given whatever point you're starting at. You think think your lack of attractiveness is stopping you from making lots of money?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/15 04:49 PM
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An ex-RP'er in my mind would have the potential for a more developed worldview. At the very least he wouldn't be lacking in the information needed to come to a potentially correct conclusion. It doesn't necessarily mean that he'll be correct (no more than it's a surety that the RP'er is correct), only that neither would be operating from a fractional worldview.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/15 04:44 PM
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The Reddit demographic trends young. We'll probably never know for sure, but I'd guess that it's the picture is actually the other way round - the bulk of TRP appears to be made up of late-teens/early 20 year old men No, there's a slight skew older than the reddit average, if anything. I know that most EC's are in their late 20's or older. Fair number of over-30's regular posters too. Compared to the male demographic in TBP, it's considerably different. It seems to me that much of the thinking a…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/15 04:41 PM
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Well, that's a big can of worms right there, I can entertain you in depth if you really care to hear the reasoning for it. Briefly, it's mostly women that slut-shame. When men do it, it's some combination of openly voicing thoughts about low-value women, or adherence to traditional views that gave rise to civilization.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/15 04:37 PM
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It's just a reminder that she'd rather be with an attractive dude who's emotionally abusive than an unattractive dude Or rather, she'd prefer being with a dominant, self-motivated attractive guy than one that lacked any of those qualities. It's not that we think ourselves morally superior (that's a BP way of thinking), it's that we simply see that you're wrong about the way attraction works.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/15 04:34 PM
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So what about those of us who are attractive, but were clueless about how to engage women? I'm in the upper percentiles for looks, yet it wasn't until I learned some TRP principles for myself that my situation changed. You'd be surprised, a lot of TRP men are average or above average looking. A lot of us simply didn't have a masculine presence to guide us.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/15 04:21 PM
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I was being facetious, I actually somewhat agree as well. We'll probably see more "partnered parenting", where two people don't necessarily live together the way they do now, but still agree to raise children between them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/15 04:16 PM
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I think you touched upon what I was getting at, especially the part about "the Red Pill people just did it all wrong". In their minds, there is only the BP/mainstream narrative. The idea that it's flawed and doesn't work in the absence of alternative sources of power/value doesn't even register to them. They only see the instances where people did well in spite of mainstream narratives and point to it as an argument for its success.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/15 04:04 PM
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Now I know you're just being silly. Women are never happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/15 03:58 PM
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If the goal is creating a sustained environment that's conducive to everyone's collective well-being, yes. Unless an equally viable alternative is suggested, but I have yet to hear one. Believe me, it's not an easy thing to grasp as a life-long atheist.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/15 03:43 PM
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Wish you BP'ers would stop being so pedantic sometimes. But to humour you, male sexual preferences in women are unsurprisingly similar across cultures. Unsurprising because it's genetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/15 03:39 PM
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I happen to like the benefits of a functioning civilization, and think that perhaps you're not giving it nearly enough credit. Things could be much harder for all of us right now. Not saying this is the case for you, but a core reason why feminism's chief supporters are middle-class white women is precisely because they have no idea how comfortable their lives are because of a well-constructed civilization. They've never known true discomfort.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/15 03:34 PM
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I think you can spot a tiny bit of difference between the upper 60th percentile and the upper 20th percentile, which is what women chase.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/15 03:31 PM
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Even if you took out all of the evopsych stuff and every study, TRP would still exist and serve its greater purpose (i.e. helping men get laid). The rest is supplementary, to aid men in understanding the why of things.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/15 03:30 PM
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Yeah, I just don't believe those numbers. I'm sure they've included the pool of undesirable women in there too, 1-4 range. Honestly, a woman who is HB5+ and have a partner count less than 5 is downright virginal by comparison in today's society.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/15 03:28 PM
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Most of reddit is early 20's, but TRP has a fairly large contingent of over-30's, yours truly included. Most of the EC's are late 20's or older. Yes, I do believe that sexual revolutions lead to the destruction of civilization. I'm surprised you saw that one comment, I've only posted there that one time. I did however write in TRP about religion's role in controlling female sexuality in order to give rise to civilization though. Are you suggesting this is an uncommon view? Pretty sure it's menti…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/15 03:25 PM
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I've seen it go both ways, but you're right that the chicks with the highest numbers tend to be in the middling range.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/15 03:21 PM
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I agree with this, and it was something I tried to get through in my post about the usages of the word misogyny. For BP'ers, "saying negative things" is directly interchangeable with "hate". They can't seem to grasp the notion that you can form a poor opinion of something and not hate it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/15 03:20 PM
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If you remove the pool of women that RP'ers aren't interested in, i.e. 1-4 range, that number is pretty accurate in my opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/15 03:17 PM
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Pareto principle applies, top ~20% of men don't need a woman to provide income, so there's no desire for it. Meanwhile, nearly all women desire it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/15 03:10 PM
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Doesn't that lack of experience necessarily translate to a less-developed worldview? This isn't to say they're incapable of having insightful ideas, only that they're operating with a significant chunk of information missing.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/15 03:03 PM
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RP'ers have experienced life through both a BP and an RP lens, whereas BP'ers are only operating from the former.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/15 03:02 PM
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We don't claim to be hard science. Never have. There was a post about this just last week.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/15 03:01 PM
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There's still the incentive for the woman to lie to herself. It's a core TRP idea that women cannot exist in a state of accepting a negative reality about herself. It's literally the reason for hamstering. She needs to legitimately believe an alternative, any alternative to eliminate the dissonance between her knowing that she's a good, upstanding person, and the uncomfortable evidence suggesting otherwise. Further, women subconsciously forget or don't count minor acts of sex towards their count…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/15 02:54 PM
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You think that men respond to the incentive of inflating their partner count, but women don't respond to the incentive of reducing theirs?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/15 02:50 PM
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To further their agenda? Because they genuinely believe their bullshit? Because they can't remember/don't count certain acts as sex? You're not honestly asking me why people might lie on the internet. It's a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/15 02:38 PM
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It's more accurate to say that men with options are more willing to act on their preferences. Virtually all men want thin/good looking women. This study was just posted in the TRP main sub today. If there was an infinite supply of fit, young women and they were accessible, virtually no one would be fucking the fatties.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/15 02:32 PM
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It sounds like you're adopting a female mindset here. Male-male friendships often work very differently than female-female ones. Ribbing one another is a sign of friendship, not assholery.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/15 02:28 PM
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It's most certainly the opposite. There was that study in here a while ago that showed that women perceived egalitarianism as sexism, and benevolent sexism as egalitarianism. You're used to pro-female leanings being status quo.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/15 02:22 PM
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Yes, men are surprised, because that's not what we were told growing up. We were never told that being dominant, bold and aggressive are the triggers for female attraction. Men are taught that sexual meekness, and deferral to a woman's feelings and considerations are the proper way to do it. The question is, are you surprised that men who were lied to ended up believing the lie?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/15 02:19 PM
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I don't think the average BPer hates or looks down on virgin or incel men. They most certainly do. BP'ers believe it's okay to hate those who have "wrong" ideas. The only incels they respect are those that toe the line and say only the things they want them to say. The idea that they could be coming from a different place, or that their virginity might be affecting their life negatively is beyond them. And that's just the men; the women there predictably revile virgin men, as they're low SMV, an…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/15 02:16 PM
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Why are you recreating this thread? /u/thegreasypole already demonstrated that women lie significantly about their counts. There's a strong incentive for them to do so. What part about that isn't logical? Want to know what is illogical? This comment of yours: Men usually report higher (7), women report lower (4). Obviously men don't actually have more sexual partners than women Why is that an impossible scenario? If two men fuck the same 100 women, they both have partner counts of 100, whereas t…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/15 02:05 PM
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Pro-tip, hit up the Turret over by Laurier if you get a chance. Not sure if it's still the case, but they used to have way more women than dudes there.
/r/askTRP21/09/15 01:59 PM
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A problem-less female is a highly unstable state, like an atomic compound with a free radical. She needs to have something be a problem in her life, regardless of how trivial. You fix one problem for her, she'll substitute another. It's pointless to try to fix everything for her.
/r/TheRedPill21/09/15 01:26 PM
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Men inherently gravitate towards ideals of fairness, justice, virtue, etc. Couple that with male protector instinct and you create the necessary components to want to secede power over to women. It's innate. It literally only happens in periods of prosperity and safety though; only when an empire is peaking without the present danger of an invader can men safely hand controls to women, only for them to drive the whole ship aground. Note how third-world countries are typically patriarchal. That's…
/r/TheRedPill21/09/15 12:55 PM
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This is one element of nuance we don't see enough of here. TRP is a response, a disaster-management solution to optimize a shitty scenario. It's analogous to ripping apart your boat to patch up sections that are quickly taking on water. Mind you, there isn't anything we as a tiny collective of like-minded individuals can do, but things most certainly aren't fine in society. It's on a downward spiralling path, and things will only get worse for the average male. Every one of us knows at least one…
/r/TheRedPill21/09/15 12:38 PM
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That's what gets me, dating college-aged women as a late-20's isn't even all that uncommon. Lots of women prefer it. I was with a 20-year chick at 28, she was excited to be with someone my age. Chicks at that age are pretty dumb, they place a lot of extra value on simple things like owning your own place and having a car.
/r/TheRedPill21/09/15 12:30 PM
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Going off this, this is doubly true for naturally thin guys. Very easy to get tendon tears as you're bulking, there's only so much load you can put on them. Good way to avoid injury for a lot of workouts is to simply avoid hyperextension. Some people swear up and down that you need the full range of motion to get the benefits, but it's not true, and it's safer.
/r/TheRedPill21/09/15 12:21 PM
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Depends on what you're looking for. If you're chasing an LTR, I'd pretty much expect her to show resistance against putting out the first few dates. You don't want to LTR up the chick who gives it up right away, because you can guarantee you weren't the first cock she hopped on (and likely not the last). Doesn't mean she's not pretending not to have ridden the CC, so do your homework. If you're just plate-spinning, waiting more than 3 dates is usually a soft next for me. You want a sexual relati…
/r/askTRP19/09/15 04:36 AM
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I think you just won shitlord of the month. Congratulations. Your medal is in the mail.
/r/TheRedPill19/09/15 03:25 AM
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There's still the odd post showing the connection between RP ideas and validated scientific research. It's simply more evidence to make the case for an argument. Even if there were literally no studies whatsoever, TRP would still serve its purpose. They're supplementary.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/15 08:29 PM
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At some level you need to find that she has a token interest. OP picked a pretty good example with lifting, most chicks want to be fit and sexy. If you want to make the sports thing work, she has to have at least a passing interest in them. It shouldn't be all that hard to find something you have in common that you're better at, most women can't do anything beyond watching Netflix and updating Instagram. If you literally can't think of anything, she's not LTR material.
/r/TheRedPill18/09/15 08:26 PM
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You seem to be completely missing the purpose of TRP. It exists as a resource to guide men towards success in the dating market (and life in general). To achieve that end, TRP'ers relate anecdotes, stories, and observations and come have up with a collective pool of advice that is pretty good at achieving what it's setting out to do. It's no different than weightlifting advice given by professional lifters, or entrepreneur advice given by self-made millionaires. It doesn't need to be scientifica…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/15 07:39 PM
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Believe me, you're not the only one. I have a few stalkers to this day over that exact post.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/15 07:09 PM
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This one right here. It's like the 5th highest most controversial post in TRP of all time, though a good amount of it is from SRS brigading.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/15 06:28 PM
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Create a fake male profile and go scouring some dating sites. Most women have some kind of listed height preference, not just tall ones. Frankly, a lot of women know it's socially unacceptable to be overt about it, but that kind of goes out the window with dating sites. I'm not short, but it's frankly maddening hearing women deny the pervasiveness of it. It's easily the most common preference among women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/15 05:48 PM
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one problem with the red pill is, you can take any positive things and co-opt them into being red pill. I think the inverse is more apt, that BP'ers believe that the only generalities that are true are those that are positive things, and that all negative generalities are false. It paints a very clear picture that the individual is coming from an emotional position rather than an intellectual one.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/15 04:58 PM
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Though I recognize the slight irony of doing so, I'm going to posit that the moral absolutism stance seems to be more prevalent coming from the Left. Leftists seem more prone to idealism and objective moral positions than the Right, in general (though I recognize that also applies to some, like the religious right). I rarely meet Liberals who believe in collectivism but recognize how someone who is more individualistic isn't evil or misguided.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/15 04:23 PM
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True, but a lot of the men who end up becoming beta bux don't have the requisite knowledge to properly vet these women. In a lot of cases, they were guys with minimal relationship history because they weren't attractive until they developed some wealth.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/15 04:14 PM
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Basic market principles. The most I'm willing to pay is the least someone else paid.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/15 04:10 PM
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It's not illogical if you understand RP, which these women do. They're not dumb. They know men want chaste women. Making a guy wait gives the illusion that she's not a hyper-slut. And that's why guys get pissed off when they find out about her past.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/15 04:07 PM
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What's the maximum threshold for normal, in your opinion?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/15 04:06 PM
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Because women initiate divorce 70% of the time. And that's just the paper value; some percentage of male-initiated divorces were coerced by a manipulative woman who blackmailed their partners with threats of taking them through divorce hell. If a woman is single with child, 70-80% of the time it's because she chose that life willfully. Nevermind all the women who chose got knocked up outside of marriage and still chose to raise that child without a positive male influence in her life.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/15 04:04 PM
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Just for arguments against AWALT, because it's literally a heuristic.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/15 03:51 PM
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The typical "woman" described by the red pill theory only touches on one specific type of woman: the superficial gold digger. This to me simply sounds like more of your indignation. It's hard for you to self-identify as a woman who regularly engages in immoral activity, so you rationalize that we must only be talking about a certain type of disreputable woman. In truth, most women bear to some degree all of the characteristics we lay out for women. All women are hypergamous, but the degree to wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/15 03:49 PM
3

Poe's law definitely applies here.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/15 03:36 PM
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Be honest, how many women do you know that prefer shorter men? It's stretching it a bit. Also, what's your stance on men not being attracted to promiscuous women?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/15 03:32 PM
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You're shifting the goalposts now. You asked for a source, and he provided one. You said you were (intellectually) honest. It's on you to prove that now.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/15 03:29 PM
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Classic case of hamstering. CEOs and Presidents are taller than the average population, on average. Is that because the shorter ones also look weird with their wrong proportions? Or is that post-hoc rationalisation you came up with because it allows you to reconcile liking tall men and not believing it has anything to do with masculinity?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/15 03:27 PM
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I'd be careful with that one, because I guarantee you that applies more to the BP camp than either TRP or Feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/15 03:14 PM
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There was a post in TBP about creating a false flag operation to get TRP banned at the same time. Similarly, when I wrote one of my more controversial pieces there were posts about how "we can finally get them banned for promoting rape". It's not a one-off thing, happens quite regularly.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/15 03:09 PM
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To me that was the line that stuck out. It's laughably transparent in the politics subs. "Conservatives vote against their own interests" and "They're all temporarily embarrassed millionaires". Or even better, "Conservatives are dumb rednecks, Liberals are enlightened" The idea that personal accountability is important to some people isn't even a consideration. The idea that some people have different values without them being evil isn't even a consideration.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/15 03:02 PM
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There's a certain psychological effect when when you're dispensing information to someone. We naturally grant admiration towards someone who displays some kind of mastery, even if they're really only good at one particular thing. It creates a natural mentor-student authority dynamic which is healthy in male-female relationships. As an example, if you're really good at a sport your girl is into, she will similarly have massive admiration for you even if you never teach her. She just needs to know…
/r/TheRedPill18/09/15 01:54 PM
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Without the patriarchy, women would want to have sex with average people, too I guarantee you that's the hidden motivator for 90% of male feminists. There's a reason why male feminists tend to be awkward, unattractive dudes.
/r/TheRedPill18/09/15 01:41 PM
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It comes down to women being able to perceive reality in a fluid manner. They're able to lie to themselves -- literally change their perception of reality by saying the same thing to themselves enough times. Any person can lie, but only women truly believe their bullshit like this post-wall slut.
/r/TheRedPill18/09/15 01:30 PM
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You haven't met the Toronto/Vancouver brand of hyper-entitled feminazi megacunt, I take it. I shit you not, they believe the more belligerent, aggressive and in-your-face they are the more attractive they are. I'll take the dumb, over-entitled Basic Bitch from any given U.S. state over one of these any day.
/r/TheRedPill18/09/15 01:29 PM
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Well, as long as she likes cats she'll be fine I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/15 05:04 PM
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I don't know who Bren Staller is, but let me ask you this: how many abodiginal BP'ers do you see in modelling?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/15 03:26 PM
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Shit, I've been doxxed.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/15 03:19 PM
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Hah, nope. I've been with hotter women. Nice bait though.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/15 02:29 PM
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That Nicole photo would be a 6. She's just slightly above average looking, and not fat. Pretty most of the hype over Rai is due to her popularity.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/15 02:16 PM
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As I said, that speaks more to women's risk-averse nature than to their inherent greater morality.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/15 02:06 PM
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How much harder will it be for your daughters when there is only 1 available man for every 4 women? How many women will experience the inverse issue China is having today?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/15 02:00 PM
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Do you believe that those pageant winners are the hottest women? Or the ones that are the most presentable? Aishwarya Rai is highly overrated. There are better looking Indian women. Archana Vijaya comes to mind. A 6 is above average. Nicole Richie isn't just plain looking, she's unattractive in that photo.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/15 01:52 PM
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Because you espouse a worldview wherein morals are objective. Morals aren't objective, they vary from individual to individual. To you, empathy is the greatest marker for morality, because you believe the feminine standard of morality is the right one. Others feel precisely the same way about the masculine standard.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/15 01:48 PM
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Crime isn't the only indicator of immorality. Women typically engage in less illegal forms of immorality, due to their risk-averse nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/15 01:46 PM
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Why do you assume that dark triad types wouldn't hang out on reddit? Especially if they're already sitting in front of a computer at work. It seems like a rather silly thing to be incredulous about. I've seen several photos from men who have confided in me for advice. Most of them are really attractive guys. Is it hard to believe that coupling good game advice with physical looks will result in women throwing themselves at them?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/15 01:43 PM
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Not that I doubt it, but I've heard similar tell about London girls. Frankly, I can't see how either place is worse than Toronto. Roosh felt similarly.
/r/TheRedPill17/09/15 01:32 PM
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Guys who haven't spent a lot of time analyzing men's looks are hilariously bad at estimating male SMV. Men have no real push to get male physical SMV right.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/15 01:25 PM
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Your male scale seems accurate to me, but your female scale seems very off. Both your 8's are potential 7's with all their movie-star makeup. Nicole Richie is less than a 5, in my opinion, would say she's a 4 like your white girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/15 01:20 PM
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To me, not even a little bit. All of the women are sub-5's.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/15 08:12 PM
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Female 4 Female 6 Female 8 You didn't ask, but here's a female 9.5, in my opinion (slightly NSFW).
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/15 08:05 PM
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Hell yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/15 07:50 PM
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Honestly, I've only ever seen one hardcore feminist that I'd use the word "attractive" on. And even then, she had a financial stake in being a loud and avowed feminist. Wondering is some it isn't pandering a la Anita Sarkeesian. There's a reason why feminazis are the way they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/15 07:45 PM
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That's a weird assumption to be honest. Don't think RP'ers are out to ruin the lives of PPD'ers. I've had women in this sub show me their pictures before. Not asking you for photos, incidentally.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/15 07:43 PM
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The Chad thing comes from lacking understand about the nature of the term "Alpha". A lot of people mistakenly assume that being Alpha requires that you be cool, collected, and flawless. The suave James Bond type. In truth, it only means behaviours that are attractive to women. Meathead Chad is as much an Alpha as is Mad Men Chad. The latter typically has ideals that most of us share. Most of us would rather not be the hardened pot-dealing street criminal, or the Jersey Shore audition prospect. T…
/r/TheRedPill16/09/15 03:53 PM
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It's the ultimate victim-validation card. Every girl strives to have a rape-survival story.
/r/TheRedPill16/09/15 03:09 PM
1

Mormon chicks have a thing where they go from super-chaste to ultra-sluts. Something about discarding their past and making up for lost time.
/r/askTRP16/09/15 02:45 PM
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You seem to have mischaracterized what Alpha means. Guys working in bars or at music festivals can be alpha. Further, alpha refers more to behaviour than to a character archetype. A man can have alpha and beta moments.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/15 02:18 PM
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TRP teaches us to subvert our natural tendencies in order to get what we want. Male honour is a construct we have to learn to undermine. It's not trumpeted as a virtue, but as a characteristic that's easily abused by women in Western societies. Your assumption that we lack self-awareness is humourously lacking in self-awareness.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/15 02:14 PM
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Your mistake is that you think gender roles exist only because we've arbitrarily decided on them. Gender roles are derived from biological bases in things like attraction. Men are expected to be stoic and dominant because that's what women are attracted to. No amount of "smashing the patriarchy" will change that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/15 02:11 PM
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They are like this. They don't think they are, often they're well-meaning. They genuinely believe that they'd be capable of listening to their man's issues and being supportive. What happens in their brains is beyond their control. They can't help but lose attraction. I've seen it play out too many times.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/15 02:10 PM
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Literally happened to me, in two successive relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/15 02:08 PM
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I disagree that you can open up about anything, even in this way. There are some things, regardless of how it's presented, that will kill your SMV. Doing what you suggested only works if they're minor sources of insecurity. Women cannot maintain their attraction to you if they see you as genuinely weak, no matter how well-meaning they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/15 02:07 PM
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I assume you're referring to guys who are physical 8+, correct? Male SMV is only partly looks. Those guys are male models. Literally the cream of the crop for attractiveness. Do you believe that there exist a pool of men significantly more attractive than them? Those guys aren't the top 20% at all. 8/10 is elite, but there exists two full classifications higher. These guys are 9.0-9.5's in terms of looks alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/15 02:04 PM
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Pics or it didn't happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/15 02:00 PM
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You don't need a high sex drive to procreate. You literally only have to fuck a half dozen times or so.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/15 01:56 PM
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The fact that women were present means that you should never have engaged in StraightTalk. Women have no capacity to speak without involving their emotions. And nothing charges up their feelings more than a discussion about rape. Their brains shut down. Consider it a lesson learned.
/r/TheRedPill16/09/15 01:46 PM
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That and having your forearm musculature clearly showing. It sounds retarded, I know, but it's something more than a handful of women have commented on.
/r/TheRedPill16/09/15 01:19 PM
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I don't doubt that this worked for you but I've had more success focusing on hinting at sex. For reference I was getting more than a 50% response rate. You don't want to be overt about it, no "u want sum fuk?", but hint at it in an amusing way. Something like "We're easily the hottest people on this site, I'm pretty sure it's our duty to create the next generation of models". The chicks that want to bone on the first date want guys that are sexual and fun. I agree with the rest of your tips, but…
/r/TheRedPill16/09/15 01:16 PM
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Holding frame doesn't always require that you remain silent. It's possible to go on the offensive without breaking frame. It's a scenario where using Amused Mastery towards men works quite well.
/r/TheRedPill16/09/15 01:07 PM
2

Non-metros make up their voter base. Calling someone "Harper" in Toronto is a worse insult than child-murderer. That's nearly a quarter of Canada's population right there.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/15 12:58 PM
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Could I not make a similar point (to the one I think you're hinting at here) that perhaps women were historically portrayed as crazy, or medically diagnosed as hysterical, because they lived under a male-ruled system? That's why I carefully chose quotes from both alien cultures and those that existed thousands of years ago, to demonstrate that it's a behaviour that has transcended cultures, i.e. biological. I suppose you could make the argument that a patriarchal society itself makes women crazy…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/15 09:57 PM
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Dont put that antique plate on the wall just because its fragile, just put it in the dishwasher cycle with all the other plates and never put it away when its wet. Fucking brilliant ♂
/r/askTRP15/09/15 08:52 PM
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It saddens me that that's literally happened.
/r/TheRedPill15/09/15 08:08 PM
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No, I absolutely ascribe to the male tropes as well. Stereotypes exist for a reason, they speak to underlying generalities that are common to a demographic (though the "Husbands are stupid and lazy" is a recent development existing only in feminized societies). Being aware of one's normal inclinations is how one supersedes them. The women of RPW are aware of this. Personally speaking, most of the gay men I've spoken to (and believe me, living in one of the most gay-friendly cities in the world, …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/15 07:45 PM
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Male love, in it's tenacity, is the only form of irrationality noted in historical texts. Don't patronize me with amateur pseudo-intellectuals like those in the lit sub. The reality is that you're guilty of the very thing you're accusing me of, that your mind is so closed you can't even observe reality. The trope of "women are irrational and crazy" is literally one of the most common stereotypes about women. You're offended by this, I get it. Your brain refuses to accept it because it's damaging…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/15 07:24 PM
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What a crock. The kids' only crime was not knowing how to play women like naturals do. At 13. At that age, the number of things I knew could be counted on one hand if I had both arms dismembered. Imagine playing a new game for the first time and the penalty for not getting 1st place was a lifelong criminal sentence. How fucked up is it to do that to a kid?
/r/TheRedPill15/09/15 07:18 PM
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I wrote about this a while back. Men and women have different biological realities. What makes men attractive is different from what makes women attractive, and this is something innate.
/r/askTRP15/09/15 06:38 PM
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There is no trope that men are irrationally crazy in any literature. The fact that you, a woman, think this could be true speaks more to point that women are irrational to the point of not being able to observe basic reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/15 06:21 PM
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I prefer the FWB 50. When I'm horny I whip out my cell phone and look up which one of the past 50 sluts is willing to come over.
/r/TheRedPill15/09/15 06:05 PM
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It really comes down to one thing, your needs. If they're not being met, change things so that they are. Consider this though. Do you plan on having an LTR down the road? If so, how ideal is this chick for that? Sounds to me that you're only with this chick because she thinks so highly of you, not because she's necessarily a keeper. If she is a good prospect for a LTR/mother, consider the opportunity cost of cutting her. Not many chicks are good LTR prospects, most are just good for fucking and …
/r/askTRP15/09/15 05:46 PM
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Nice pressure flip. That's an interesting way to look at it, but it doesn't bear out. When men talk to other men they regularly conclude that it's women who are irrationally crazy. There are dozens of variants of this trope. The Japanese express it as 女心と秋の空, "a women's heart changes as does the autumn sky". Aristotle observed it as "woman is more mischievous, less simple, more impulsive ... more compassionate, ... more easily moved to tears", and in more modern times referenced as "Bitches be c…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/15 05:33 PM
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Running away only wounds your pride. In this feminized society it's sadly the only real choice.
/r/TheRedPill15/09/15 05:23 PM
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Agreed. If you're already there might as well make the best of a bad situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/15 05:20 PM
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The major cities anyway. You can't throw a rock without hitting a blue-haired hambeast fighting the patriarchy.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/15 05:12 PM
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What would you consider evidence? Would you accept the fact that women initiate divorce 70% of the time or that single mothers largely responsible for raising the next generation of criminals? Some studies peg women initiating divorce as high as 80% of the time. Would you accept that 50 Shades of Gray outsold any given Harry Potter novel, at 100 million copies sold, as evidence that women are aroused by a top alpha ravishing them? What sort of evidence would actually cause you to take an intelle…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/15 03:21 PM
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As with all generalizations there are exceptions. We shouldn't have to play that game over and over, you should know this by now. College professors are a perfect example of the indoctrinated types I was speaking about. From cradle to the grave they're expected to toe a certain line. I've worked in Academia before, it's very left-leaning. The idea that you can espouse Conservative beliefs and comfortably get through Academia is almost unheard of. I recognize that there are liberal TRP'ers, I use…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/15 02:47 PM
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Not true. This is RP rhetoric and not based on actual research. Just like workout advice from large muscular men isn't actual research. Just as entrepreneur advice from a self-made millionaire isn't actual research. There are ways to convey information without needing peer-reviewed studies, this is perfectly normal for everyone. As in all humans, men included. Doesn't mean women can't be honest with their partners about issues in the relationship. Or are men always dishonest as well? No, women f…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/15 02:28 PM
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Women are only capable of rational thought and introspection in the absence of emotional feelings towards the subject matter. Women can readily deduce cause and effect when it pertains to things that don't concern them. When it comes to themselves, there exists an intrinsic need in all women to protect her ego from damage. This is most evident when you date women, because it's when you can see them at their most vulnerable. They can't reconcile realities that make them feel bad about themselves,…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/15 02:19 PM
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In Canada it's all about the Irish brogue. Not a dry panty in a 1-mile radius when Irish brothers speak up here.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/15 02:14 PM
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Past behaviour is the best indicator of future behaviour and all that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/15 02:11 PM
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Well obviously. Generalizations are only untrue when made of women, not men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/15 02:10 PM
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Of course actions are important-they will follow after succesful communication. No, not at all. One works, the other simply doesn't. You're assuming women are rational actors that have "maintaining the relationship" as an active goal, the way men do. It's not the case at all. Women act in accordance to how they're feeling at that moment, and words don't change that. Saying it doesn't make it true. I think it is naïve to assume attraction is the only cause of dead bedrooms. I'm loathe to resort t…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/15 02:08 PM
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I did a complete 180. I used to be a dyed-in-the-wool liberal. I could have been a poster boy for TBP in my youth. I literally avoided certain restaurants once I found out they had voted Conservative. Naive shit. I had trouble grappling with the idea that we're all in it together, and that by looking out for everyone's best interest that the world would be a better place. Learning how the world actually works makes it hard to hold on to the delusion of Liberalism. It's naive idealism, limited to…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/15 02:04 PM
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No, BP'ers highly overestimate how effective communication is. Communication only works on women who are already receptive to their partners. If she has lost her attraction to her partner, nothing he can say will resolve the issue. It's fantastically naive to think otherwise, and a hallmark of someone who hasn't been in many relationships. Women don't care much for a man's words, so much as his actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/15 01:50 PM
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I've heard this complaint when the sub was only 10,000 members. The post you're complaining about was written by /u/illimitableman, who was there well before even that. /u/redpillschool, the head mod, submitted a post suggesting that women should not be allowed to vote if they're unwilling to fulfill their duties. I wrote a post about how women want to be raped by high value men. TheRedPill has always been a place for controversial ideas that aren't allowed to get traction in public spaces. That…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/15 01:39 PM
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TRP exists mostly for aiding those users, not those of us who have already progressed out of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/15 01:31 PM
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Any woman that pounds down liquor while under the weather is plate-status, at the very best. Not exactly a paragon of good decision making.
/r/TheRedPill15/09/15 01:28 PM
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You left out arguably the most important one, the post-fuck text. Something like "That was fun, we should do it again sometime". Forget how cheesy it sounds, your goal is to get her to say something like "Yeah, I had fun :) :)" I suspect that mattress girl over at Columbia largely lost her tribunal case because of her errant texts. Most tribunals are more than happy to throw a man under the bus, so you can imagine how useful these texts are.
/r/TheRedPill15/09/15 01:25 PM
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Of course feminists are going to oppose it. Feminism is at its core a movement to maximize female sexual strategy. That means having exclusive, uninhibited access to the top alphas while securing the resources to carry out their children. Feminism accomplishes this by making female preferences sacrosanct ("Tall guys are just my preference") whereas male preferences are made socially untenable ("How dare you reject her for being fat/slutty. You're just insecure") This has bled over into male adap…
/r/TheRedPill15/09/15 01:18 PM
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Don't knock it until you've tried it. Lots of chicks there with their guards down.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/15 10:27 AM
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Would caution against striking back, even in retaliation. Connery's assessment is spot on, but we don't live in his world anymore. Chick could be swinging at you with a knife, if you bruise her most courts will pin you as the aggressor, and the one spending time behind bars. No bitch is worth jail time.
/r/TheRedPill15/09/15 12:31 AM
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No, you've misunderstood. Let's take the median white girl. Half of white girls are hotter than her, half are uglier. More men, of all races, will find her attractive than the same median black girl. It has to do with average features and behaviours that are common to each demographic. Black women typically have more stereotypically masculine features and behaviour, which is the reason they score lower. You can call it racism, but men typically find femininity attractive which is why Asians and …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/15 08:54 PM
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All men, on average. I can make up numbers if you'd like, to demonstrate. If 90% of men find white women attractive, then maybe 60% find black women attractive. The actual numbers don't matter; the point is that white women overall are generally considered more attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/15 08:38 PM
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It helps if you see things as percentiles, rather than binary facts. White women are more likely to be in the "attractive" camp than the unattractive camp by an independent observer, just as short men are more likely to be in the unattractive camp. When men discuss black women falling in the unattractive camp, they mean that they are more likely to be considered unattractive by any given person than attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/15 08:30 PM
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Because it wouldn't be true. If you made a post about how Asian dudes are shorter on average and get shafted in the dating market because of it, you'd be upvoted to the top.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/15 08:10 PM
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Doesn't mean there aren't risk factors for the longevity of the relationship. I don't consider cycling a new woman every 2-3 months as LTRs; LTRs are long by definition. Sounds like you're just spinning a single plate, and there's nothing wrong with that. Doesn't detract from the fact that partner count is an important consideration if you want to keep them bonded to you for as long as you can.
/r/TheRedPill14/09/15 06:58 PM
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One of the best go-to responses when you're called out on something is to own it. Own it and act like she's weird for her to even question it. "Why?" works really well here, especially since it's so brief.
/r/askTRP14/09/15 06:35 PM
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Depends on the circumstance. I've been to gay bars. Happened a ton in undergrad as well. Why does the frequency matter? You stated that we'd dislike being objectified by people who we don't want to fuck, and I'm telling you it's not true. The same is true of all the ugly women who used to message me online.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/15 06:21 PM
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Not going to lie, you definitely smell like a troll. But on the off chance you're not, good on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/15 06:17 PM
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That's 95% of TBP. Think of how creationists make fun of scientists. They're on the wrong side of reality, so they need to misinterpret or completely invent things in order to demonize the other party.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/15 06:16 PM
2

I know this sounds unrelated, but bear with me; how often do you prefer having sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/15 06:14 PM
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I've been approached by men several times. Don't really give a fuck. Why should I be mad that someone finds me attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/15 06:08 PM
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It's not the fact that they're Asian that's surprising, but that you prefer them to be omegas. Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/15 06:03 PM
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I have an east asian omega male fetish That's...different. What do you like about them?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/15 05:51 PM
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This is the pivotal reason why nothing a woman says is worth paying attention to, not until she's well past the Wall. A woman's experience in her 20's is so alien to the male experience that it's maddening that people try to equate the two. Average women have value intrinsically as soon as they sprout tits. And that value only increases into their late teens and early 20's. Men conversely have zero value initially outside of the few born with exceptional genetics, and even then, those lacking in…
/r/TheRedPill14/09/15 05:43 PM
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It's almost always the case that the Alpha in the group can provide you with more value. Associating with high value people in and of itself provides you with value. Associating with betas does the precise opposite. You are the average of the top five people you keep in your company.
/r/TheRedPill14/09/15 05:02 PM
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They literally prescribe testosterone for low libido.
/r/TheRedPill14/09/15 04:59 PM
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it isn't difficult to figure out how you will be treated in a relationship Wrong. Dead wrong. Women are innately Machiavellian. The way she behaves when courting a beta isn't how she'll behave a few years into the LTR, and without the requisite TRP knowledge you'd be none the wiser. The only thing you have going for you is the subtle tells she leaves behind that she can't simply dismiss. Her partying past is the best indicator of her future monogamy potential. There are ways to broach the subjec…
/r/TheRedPill14/09/15 04:07 PM
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There are scenarios where it's plausible. Introvert from a sexually reserved culture that's only had 2-3 committed LTR's in her life, for example. That said, if she has all the party-girl red flags and she's still touting a low number you could probably multiply it by 10 and still not be too off.
/r/TheRedPill14/09/15 03:42 PM
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You're not looking in the lens of LTRs. If it's a girl just polishing your dick, yeah, partner count doesn't matter too much (barring STD risk). I'm not much younger than you, and I couldn't see myself going monogamous with a chick who has a huge count. Why set yourself up for that pending disaster?
/r/TheRedPill14/09/15 03:28 PM
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There are definitely ways to get a woman to reveal her real count, or her approximation of it.
/r/TheRedPill14/09/15 02:47 PM
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It's one of their Powertalk words. No cost to use, yet extremely potent all the same. Imagine you could literally change reality by stating it. Women in modern society are afforded those powers when they use words like "Abuser" or "rapist". Too tempting for them not to use.
/r/TheRedPill14/09/15 02:23 PM
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There's a fine line between doing this and self-associating with betas. You need to be careful, because it's easy to give off the perception that you self-identify as one of the betas yourself. You run the rest of being seen outside of the alpha circle. Even if you hold frame and maintain a confident air, you'll be seen as just a leader of the betas. The trick is doing what you described but only minimally. Get the beta involved, but don't engage him too much. An Alpha values his time, and for h…
/r/TheRedPill14/09/15 01:22 PM
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It won't be the body bags that do it, those soldiers will be "praised for their bravery" far more than any male recruit would. It'll be when the first gang rape video is published by an ISIS clone that the hysteria will ramp up to 11.
/r/TheRedPill11/09/15 04:07 PM
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Dr. Phil and Bill O'Reilly are both Machiavellian in that they know how to play to an audience. They almost certainly don't believe everything they say, they just know how to craft arguments in ways that are very hard to counter.
/r/TheRedPill11/09/15 03:14 PM
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One of Feminism's primary goals is to make men having preferences unacceptable. They're literally working towards a world where men are indentured slaves.
/r/TheRedPill11/09/15 02:39 PM
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This post is similar to those cop-training videos where they fuck up so badly they serve as a training lesson to everyone else. [RPer] is young so he can be forgiven, we all do dumb shit at that age. Devotion isn't something women find attractive, not the way men do. And even then, even men are turned off by low-SMV Stage 5 clingers.
/r/TheRedPill11/09/15 01:05 PM
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A long while back I made a fake female profile on OKCupid just to scout the competition. It was an entirely blank profile, no picture and nothing but basic (made-up) attributes. I had dudes sending me paragraphs telling me how much they wanted to talk to me. If I had ovaries they would have shrivelled and died that day.
/r/TheRedPill11/09/15 12:59 PM
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From a upper management perspective, optics. Give the impression that you're one of those progressive, forward-thinking companies that the average idiot consumer dotes on. Also, to prevent discrimination lawsuits. Upper management typically works differently, you don't let someone get to the top if they don't deserve it, not unless you want to tank your company.
/r/TheRedPill10/09/15 05:47 PM
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You're not wrong, but accepting the reality of it doesn't preclude discussing it in a specialized forum like this one. A lot of people here have a need to discuss these things in TRP because there is literally nowhere else it can be done.
/r/TheRedPill10/09/15 03:23 PM
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It's simple logic really, most CEOs are white males, therefore all white males have life on easy mode. What's so hard to understand about that?
/r/TheRedPill10/09/15 03:21 PM
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Male SMV is only partly derived by looks. A physical 6 could have a SMV anywhere between 3-9.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/15 01:22 PM
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If he has other desirable qualities, he is not a 6.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/15 12:38 AM
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I wasn't aware that we had evolved into something other than humans since then.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/15 12:29 AM
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There is no "winning" this war. Men's right's will fail because the strategy of playing the victim doesn't work for men. There's literally nothing that can be done by men at this moment, we need to simply wait for things to get bad enough that cultural perceptions change. People are remarkably stuck in their ideas until things get really bad. Likely not going to happen in our lifetimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/15 08:41 PM
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I assure you, the thesaurus is quite consenting.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/15 08:08 PM
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With women, he has this sort of patronising carnal attitude with them which is absolutely accurate to the Bond of the books. But then by creating very strong women he is given quite a run for his money and his attitudes are challenged. You know what makes men lose themselves in reckless lust? Strong independent wymyns who are challenging and combative.
/r/TheRedPill09/09/15 07:09 PM
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Doesn't mean that there isn't a difference between the 6's and the 9's, even if we'll fuck both. You underestimate just how much guys like getting their dicks wet. Given a choice, a guy will choose the 9 over the 6 to bone.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/15 06:45 PM
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Doesn't count as losing your V-card if she's crying.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/15 06:41 PM
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TRP isn't an advocacy group. It's a methodology for optimizing an individual's experience in a declining society. Banging hordes of sluts is the silver lining in the shit show that is Western society. /r/MensRights is more concerned about advocacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/15 06:40 PM
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Male dominance, not equality, is associated with relationship longevity. TRP (i.e. traditional masculinity) results in less divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/15 06:33 PM
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So do creationists.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/15 06:28 PM
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