Genes are everything when it comes to attraction. When you get past most of a woman's bullshit, the things they say to justify what they are attracted to, it always comes down to finding the best genes for their offspring. Women are attracted to honest traits of a mans genetic worth: Face, Height, Wrists, natural leadership. This is why women ridicule PUA and Bodybuilding. They are repulsed by it because you disguise your true genetic worth (Poor social skills and small build) and it fucks with their sexual strategy. Girls would rather date a handsome couch potato who is naturally gifted as an athlete than a guy like GSP who works his ass off for it. This is why when you ask girls, like people do on AskReddit, 'what can us guys do to talk to you better' they say 'just come up to me and say hi, be a gentleman.' They don't want you to weasel out of their selection process. Look at all our heroes in movies and sports. It's not the insecure guy who overcomes his shortcomings who looks like a badass. It's the guy who calmly walks in and beats the crap out of everybody making it look easy. This is why we like superheroes so much! It's also why you should never tell women you workout or do self improvement. Either way, when it comes down to it, you can only do so much to hide your true genetic worth. Even men are aware of this on a primal level. Ectomorph brahs who lift know what I'm talking about. No matter how big we get we've all stood next to some skinnier dude who doesn't even lift and felt small because of his thick neck, shoulders and 8+ inch wrists.