Limits of game

redpillschool · 2013-03-08T16:13:20+00:00

I'm not sure everybody will agree with me here, but there are a lot of factors surrounding attraction.

You don't really need to be hot, just built. If you work out and wear good clothes, you can score.
Game is important so you don't shoot yourself in the foot. It's not a magical catchphrase to woo women, it's more about not fucking up the attraction that's there. Being smart and knowing how to deal with shit tests doesn't exactly increase attraction, so much as minimize your risk of losing attraction.
The more captive your audience, the more you can attract a women via game/humor/conversation. If you're a bar and she has options, you're going to need to be physically attractive to even get her attention long enough to use game. However, if you're in a group and you're bowling, you can use charm/game over the course of a night and build attraction that way, where you wouldn't be able to if she had an out.

roe_ · 2013-03-08T21:03:25+00:00

http://heartiste.wordpress.com/2009/09/18/how-much-can-game-do/

sosueme · 2013-03-08T16:36:50+00:00

ss_camaro · 2013-03-09T07:13:02+00:00

Here is the real definition of game. It helps post modern men get over their disgust and natural aversion to girls gone wild, sluts, feminists and otherwise generally over-entitled, propagandized, conniving wastes of space.

"Game" makes believe that you are chasing these women, when in fact they sit on their SMV and con what they can get out of any and all suckers that think primarily with their dicks (PUAs). Some lucky PUAs make it through life with rye, Tucker-Max stories, an STD or two, books and speaking engagements. Many more 'losers' or 'ex-PUAs' get stuck cohabiting with a slut, married, put in prison on false rape or harrassment charges, divorced, knock up a hoodrat, etc. etc.

You get the picture.

CokedUpArmenian · 2013-03-08T16:30:14+00:00

...will it just make you improve a point or two...?

This is the old way of thinking of game, and frankly I think it's the most down to earth explanation. If you're a short man with down syndrome, you're probably never gonna be gaming high status women. It's not to say you can't, but you know, let's be realistic.

It's also assuming you were trying your hardest pursuing women originally, so if you weren't, you're going to get vastly different results.

GaiusScaevolus · 2013-03-08T17:23:45+00:00

I look at it this way. 'Game', is a perspective tool. Think of your question as asking "Does an instruction manual help me build and use my bike better?" The answer of course is "Yes, provided you have the requisite tools at your disposal." Game shows you how to maximize the effectiveness of each tool in your kit, but you still need to have said tool to begin with. The good news here is if you're a 5 in most areas who knows game solid, you can pull a 7-7.5, because the average man operates below their full capacity.

CoupeDeVillain · 2013-03-09T03:48:18+00:00

The only limit to game is the amount of heavy effort that you're willing to put in.

All of the criteria you mention in your subsequent questions are really questions of effort.

[deleted] · 2013-03-11T01:02:57+00:00

What exactly are the limits of game?

Game in a sense, is designed to help you reach your maximum seduction potential, so this is dependant on the person we are talking about.

Do most people who study and apply it significantly improve or only a talented minority?

You shouldn't be studying game as much as you should be practicing it. Some people seem to improve rapidly, others very slowly, and a small minority (usually the ones that don't take it seriously) not at all.

How much of a role do natural aptitude, IQ level, and physical genetics play?

Considering genetics is one of the key currencies men can trade for sex these all play a big role. The bigger question is, what can you do to improve these qualities however. You aren't stuck with the same physique, IQ, and aptitude granted to you at birth for a lifetime. ALL of these can be modified through intense biohacking.

Can game make everyone capable of banging 7s and higher, so will it just make you improve a point or two from whatever caliber you currently bang? For example, a guy banging 4s will now be banging 5s?

Obviously everyone will be different in how "high" they can go, and how often they can get there. For some people (a small minority), all the "game" in the world won't make them attractive because they were doomed genetically from the start. This is an extreme outlier case however, and most people should be able to jump up quite high on the attractiveness scale. My own personal change was quite drastic. At my lowest low I'd say my SMV was around a 4, and at my absolute height I'd have rated myself a 9 easily. That's a 5 point SMV change in attractiveness, which took me from women stone cold ignoring me and telling me to fuck off because I'm "ugly," to women approaching me at clubs / parties and practically soliciting me for sex within moments of meeting me. Because I went through such a huge transformation myself, I feel game has a lot to offer people who are looking to get ahead in the SMP.

razorback83 · 2013-03-08T20:03:33+00:00

So based on some of these answers, I wonder, if a big part of game is approaching more, is it possible some of these guys just weren't approaching enough before because of lack of confidence, game gave them the confidence to approach, and that extra approaching is what caused the better results rather than the game? Say a good looking and successful but shy, low confidence guy is not getting laid. He learns game and feels confident enough to approach 30 girls a night and starts getting laid. Is it the actual game techniques responsible or the fact that he's exposing more women to his looks and success by doing more approaching?

TheIslander829 · 2013-03-08T16:24:14+00:00

There are no limits.

Read 'The Game', by Neil Strauss. You'll see.

Title	Limits of game
Author	razorback83
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Date	March 8, 2013 3:20 PM UTC (13 years ago)
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