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Off TopicGaiusScaevolus/r/TheRedPill01/03/14 06:11 PM
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Red Pill TheoryGaiusScaevolus/r/TheRedPill09/09/13 01:07 AM
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GaiusScaevolus/r/becomeaman29/10/13 10:07 PM
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Red Pill TheoryGaiusScaevolus/r/TheRedPill08/05/13 05:39 PM
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Off TopicGaiusScaevolus/r/TheRedPill20/11/13 09:20 PM
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Red Pill TheoryGaiusScaevolus/r/TheRedPill19/12/13 10:36 PM
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Field ReportGaiusScaevolus/r/TheRedPill18/09/15 07:41 PM
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Red Pill TheoryGaiusScaevolus/r/TheRedPill21/03/13 01:06 PM
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Off TopicGaiusScaevolus/r/TheRedPill15/11/13 07:12 PM
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CMVGaiusScaevolus/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 06:04 PM
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Red Pill TheoryGaiusScaevolus/r/TheRedPill06/05/14 03:50 AM
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Red Pill TheoryGaiusScaevolus/r/TheRedPill07/08/13 09:53 PM
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GaiusScaevolus/r/becomeaman27/12/13 03:38 AM
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Off TopicGaiusScaevolus/r/TheRedPill03/02/14 07:09 PM
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Off TopicGaiusScaevolus/r/TheRedPill25/03/13 03:13 AM
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Red Pill ExampleGaiusScaevolus/r/TheRedPill02/05/13 09:27 PM
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Men's RightsGaiusScaevolus/r/TheRedPill08/05/13 08:22 PM
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GaiusScaevolus/r/becomeaman20/11/13 09:25 PM
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Off TopicGaiusScaevolus/r/TheRedPill12/03/14 01:29 AM
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Blue Pill ExampleGaiusScaevolus/r/TheRedPill31/03/13 08:30 PM
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DiscussionGaiusScaevolus/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/16 02:43 PM
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DiscussionGaiusScaevolus/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/16 02:06 PM
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GaiusScaevolus/r/TheRedPill14/03/13 10:06 PM
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GaiusScaevolus/r/TheRedPill04/03/13 12:29 AM
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DiscussionGaiusScaevolus/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/15 06:22 PM
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Men's RightsGaiusScaevolus/r/TheRedPill25/05/13 08:24 PM
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GaiusScaevolus/r/becomeaman24/08/13 01:57 AM
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Men's RightsGaiusScaevolus/r/TheRedPill29/10/13 10:04 PM
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DiscussionGaiusScaevolus/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/14 06:26 PM
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Red Pill TheoryGaiusScaevolus/r/TheRedPill05/04/13 05:44 PM
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GaiusScaevolus/r/becomeaman27/07/13 06:57 PM
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Men's RightsGaiusScaevolus/r/TheRedPill02/08/13 05:16 AM
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DiscussionGaiusScaevolus/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/16 04:02 PM
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Red Pill TheoryGaiusScaevolus/r/TheRedPill12/02/14 10:07 PM
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GaiusScaevolus/r/becomeaman04/07/13 03:48 AM
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Ask Red PillGaiusScaevolus/r/TheRedPill04/07/13 08:34 PM
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Red Pill TheoryGaiusScaevolus/r/TheRedPill12/12/13 12:57 AM
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CMVGaiusScaevolus/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/15 01:39 PM
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GaiusScaevolus/r/becomeaman28/02/14 06:11 AM
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Men's RightsGaiusScaevolus/r/TheRedPill29/07/13 09:51 PM
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DiscussionGaiusScaevolus/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/16 03:41 PM
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GaiusScaevolus/r/becomeaman01/10/13 10:49 PM
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The sentence for rape should be the Death Penalty, whereas currently, in 39 states the sentence is Death by Chocolate.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/17 03:05 PM
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TRP is a body of knowledge, and therefore amoral. We show and explain how someone is likely to react to you given your words/actions, and it's up to you to decide if it's within your moral sphere to behave in such a manner.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/17 02:57 PM
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So in other words, women make hundreds of little choices that men don't, and that results in a lower average wage. Doesn't seem like any sexism or evil patriarchy at work giving women choices.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/17 02:45 PM
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Date yes, I'd be more hesitant to marry only because I believe a couple should know if they're sexually compatible prior to marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/17 02:30 PM
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No it's not. I think from now on we can assume any proposal put forward by a CA legislator on social issues can be pre-emptively considered unreasonable.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/17 02:27 PM
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In my experience, even women who are into ONS and flings occasionally encounter guys they want to keep around.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/17 02:05 PM
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She's clearly an overt misandrist and should be shamed out of her job.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/17 02:15 PM
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I don't know if I'd say broken "deeper", but men don't generally receive the same level of care or social support women do regarding emotional trauma.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/17 01:56 PM
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For example Scrubs, Friends, Clarissa, Everybody Hates Chris, Big Time Rush, etc etc JD marries Eliot Ross ends up with Rachel & Chandler marries Monica Chris dates Tasha I don't know the other shows, but at least 3/5 of your examples are contrary to your point.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/17 02:05 PM
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1-9, add 10 if I've been drinking and it's a layup. The whole thing is to maintain a feminine frame, and to not reach the point of outweighing me (not difficult)
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/17 01:52 PM
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TRP: The radical notion that women are people. Be B+ If it's so wrong, tell me why it works so well?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/17 01:47 PM
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Cheating is never acceptable. It becomes understandable when a flagrant disregard for a partner's needs is demonstrated. It also isn't acceptable to trap someone in a sexless marriage, or to require them to forfeit a bunch of their property/income in order to feel any physical pleasure/validation. It's a real rock and a hard place situation. That's why I said it's never acceptable, but occasionally understandable.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/17 04:35 PM
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Amused Mastery is more used for sh*t tests and flip outs.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/17 02:05 PM
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In non marriages, I normally agree. When it comes to marriages, I think cheating is awful and cruel, but I also don't believe anyone should have to pay 35% of there income to get to have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/17 01:48 PM
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Cheating is never acceptable. It becomes understandable when a flagrant disregard for a partner's needs is demonstrated.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/17 03:30 PM
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Violence may be implied, but the type of hooting and demonstrating you're describing is something I've never seen from an alpha. Let me put it in more concrete terms: While working at a nightclub, I've seen plenty of < 165lb kids behave in the way you describe. I've never once seen either a bouncer behave that way. Why? They own the situation by default. No need to compete when you own the game board and prize already.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 03:20 PM
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Women forgo agency when intoxicated, but men do not. Men need to be taught not to rape/ Women do not need to be taught how to assert their desires and minimize their potential victim hood.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 03:07 PM
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Being quick to anger and breaking things and punching holes in walls and yelling and chest thumping and dick measuring are alpha style emotional displays. No? The alpha approach to any situation implies control over said situation. Getting angry and acting out are beta behaviors, rooted in insecurity. The alpha approach would be amused mastery.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 02:48 PM
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Is the exam sexual in intent? If not, then no.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/17 08:28 PM
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For me to answer this properly, you need to describe how, specifically, you think "Pushing through LMR" works.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/17 03:24 PM
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I actually met a woman once who tried to explain to me what TRP was and told me I should act more "alpha" if I wanted to take any of the girls at the bar home. She then insisted on winging for me, which for her took the form of hanging of my arm and rubbing my chest while I was ordering a drink from my fairly confused friend, who happened to be bar tending that night. In fairness, not the worst wing-work a woman has ever done.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/17 02:57 PM
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I think this example is a bit of an apex fallacy. Now, that's also not to say that every girl who rejects your approach is destined to become a 55 year old spinster with only her cats to keep her company either. But I do think for the majority of women, a high level of promiscuity in her peak SMV years increase the likelihood of it becoming more difficult to settle down with a quality guy and a "happy"tm life. If she's rich/famous/9+, yeah, she's probably still going to come away with a 'win' re…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/17 08:00 PM
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I don't consider sex a basic human right. But if I did, it would still not follow that birth control should be publicly funded. Considering something a human right does not mean society is accountable for the over indulgence or irresponsibility of an individual.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/17 09:27 PM
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For an LTR, I'd depend on the type quality of each of these things. A PH.D in Womynz Studies is a hard next, but a cool job/course of study would interest me. As far as ONS, I'd probably consider the Ph.D student or hard going career girl as better prospects, since they, like me, have demanding schedules meaning they're less likely to waste precious free time on games.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 09:08 PM
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Important by my definition or theirs? Important topics for feminism by my standard would include; Combating radical Islam and other cultural strains that encourage the rape and mutilation of girls and women. Raising the standard of living of third world women with economic investment Providing contraception as well as education to reduce rates of unsustainable pregnancy and STD's in low income areas. Issues of importance to Feminists (defined as such because these are the topics most popular fem…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 03:43 PM
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With rape, as with most actions, there are 3 kinds of people; Those who do it. Those who do not/ would never do it. Those who might do it depending on the social mores and cultural values of those around them. The thing is, western culture is somewhere between very to extremely anti rape of women* , So the feminist idea of "Teach men not to rape" is redundant and insulting to the 95% of men who never would, and the 4.99% who might have if they lived in an actual rape culture (*see: Middle East) …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/17 04:58 PM
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I think what's arousing is not only the visual stimuli but also the brain's perceived proximity to sex. So while I definitely feel something looking at a picture of a scantily clad woman, I have a stronger response to a video of the same and an even stronger response to a video of actual sex, and an even stronger response to an actual woman in her undergarments in front of me. It's similar to how a woman in lingerie is sexier than a woman in a bikini, even though the bikini shows the same amount…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/17 04:32 PM
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Can a featherweight hipster in super skinny jeans be alpha? He can be the dominant person in a social situation, in that sense, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/17 02:50 PM
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How one should act is situationally dependent and takes time to calibrate. However, if you're having trouble with women, the vast majority of the time, "more alpha" will help as opposed to "beta". Most guys could stand to hit the gym. Most guys are months if not years of working out away from toned. Strength is alsosomething women generally seem to find attractive. TRP advocates a number of self improvement strategies and activities. Controlled emotion is fine. Being overly emotional, or display…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/17 04:01 PM
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If she has had a few ONS at 16 and then leaned that guys she has sex with right away won't stay and now at 24 only has sex with guys she knows then it isn't just randomly. That's not who we mean at all. If I've known a chick for 2 years and she's slept with 30 guys in that time, and I know as a factual matter, that they all at least started as ONS or hooking up before dating, should I not be skeptical if she starts wanting to "hold off"?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/17 09:35 PM
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This discussion isn't about women like you. It's women who randomly make a specific guy wait or jump through hoops when her standard MO is ONS or first date.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/17 05:16 PM
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Well if you can't follow this actual, real life situation, you're living too much in the theoretical. One doesn't have to be consistent their past behavior. Period. Fair enough. Except, comma, this discussion is about being compelled to act a certain way. It's about how one's actions are perceived and why they are perceived that way. Flipping your hair and going "I don't have to." is useless in this conversation. Period.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/17 05:09 PM
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Apparently, it needs to be spelled out that a man with a SAHW is paying her to stay home. She is not doing it for free, because she likes it. Then division of assets won't come as such a shock to him. So do you also spell out that a big part of that "pay" is in the form of rent, food, heat, and a bed?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/17 04:18 PM
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You make out she's withholding sex out of spite, I can tell this is a sticking point, so let me give you a scenario where she's trying to do the right thing, but still string a guy along unintentionally. After getting pumped and dumped by the 4th guy in 3 months, J is feeling distraught. She resolves to make a change in her dating life. S asks J out for dinner. S isn't her normal type, but they used to work together and hang out in the same circles and he's had a thing for her for a while. S is …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/17 04:03 PM
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I don't think it's a lack of respect for betas, I think it's an understanding that that strategy doesn't bear fruit anymore. I don't respect a janitor less than a CEO, but given the benefit structure, I know what I want to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/17 03:26 PM
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we gain experience and we (hopefully) change. Except, from experience, it's much more likely she's stringing the guy along than she's magically learned her lesson at guy #137.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/17 02:57 PM
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I don't think the mother can adopt a baby away without the consent of the father. In many states, she can. The exception being married couples.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/17 02:56 PM
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Feminism: The Patriarchy exists to benefit men and subjugate women. Men: Well that's not right. Look at all these men who don't benefit at all. /u/BrownEyedENFP: Well, not everyone with a penis counts as a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/17 04:05 PM
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Seems like you're moving the goalpost. But I'll bite, what do you think these characteristics are?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/17 04:02 PM
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Do you also condemn science for the nuclear bomb? Philosophy for the Holocaust? Trade for Slavery? Knowledge/Thought/Philosophy are all amoral. The actor chooses to be moral or immoral with them. That is poor reason to condemn thought.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/17 04:00 PM
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I'd want to know basics, How many, Any crazies I should know about, and Why'd they break up.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/17 03:25 PM
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If you understand the difference between Bernie Sanders and Josef Stalin, or the difference between Mother Teresa and the KKK, you understand that philosophy and ideas are not inherently dangerous, but the application of the men who are swayed by them can be.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/17 03:05 PM
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So if you believe this, then the standard paradigm empowers women at the expense of men. Why should men seek something that is harmful (your word) to them?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/17 02:59 PM
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Some critiques/explanations on why you may have gotten the results you did. Face shots. Don't get me wrong, a pretty face is great, but for a lot of men the real sexual attraction is to a woman's body. There's a reason women get beads on Mardi Gras to take off their shirts, not their masks. Marks/10 does not equal "Would bang" or "would pay attention to if she was nearby IRL" Sitting in an office writing this, it doesn't occur to a single guy that these are potential sex partners, so no one eval…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/17 02:55 PM
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Not attractive enough to pass the dick test Not having their sh*t together to at least an age appropriate degree. Multiple kids Easily offended/ Delicate sense of humor Obnoxious/toxic friend group
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/17 03:13 PM
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Just World fallacy and Apex fallacy are two pretty big ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/17 04:16 PM
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Friend zone =/= Man who is friends with a woman but also might f#ck her if the opportunity ever came up. Friend zone is a thing, but I think the phrase is overused here and in pop culture. 'Friend zone' is the disconnect where a man's romantic/pursual behavior is treated by a woman as 'friend' behavior. I will also go out on a limb and say that most woman (22+) have a fair idea of what they're doing when they 'friend zone' a guy. Romantic interest isn't always obvious, but there are usually stro…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/17 03:31 PM
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That's one of the most misused terms around here. 'Friendzoning' is a thing, but it only applies in a certain set of instances. Friend zone is when a guy (or technically girl, but realistically,) who fills the emotional and support functions of a boyfriend, but is rejected for the sexual aspect of a romantic relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/17 02:52 PM
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why should good girl Mary put up with your bullshit and baggage when she can lock down her high beta fucks when she's 21 and avoid all this bullshit? Not OP, but I suspect he would argue that she should, and that he would have loved to been Mary's high beta at 21, but Mary was busy "finding herself", and looking in multiple guys beds for herself. I think OP words it poorly, using terms like "judge", but it's a fairly common issue, the gap between what you want and what's available at the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/17 03:11 PM
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Really? I'd consider that perfectly acceptable. Especially since that's essentially what every rejection ever actually boils down to.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/17 08:51 AM
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Sure, I understand the economic aspect. I'm more asking for the moral argument, a la the original article.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/17 07:12 PM
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Clearly the ugly man. The first hurdle of the dating market is 'Would I have sex with that person?' UVM: No [Eliminated from dating pool] HNW: Yes [Proceed to step 2]
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/17 07:11 PM
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People in general are fairly good at short term effort, but not so great at long term effort without some kind of support or hand holding. So while men will put in tremendous short term effort into sex, it's tougher for them to see the value in the long term effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/17 03:09 PM
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"No, you're a great guy and all, but i'm not attracted to you." Not difficult. Here's the thing, most fat guys have a decent idea they're fat, and even if you give the nice, gentle response anyways, at the end of the day they still suspect that's why you rejected them. So no feelings our actually spared, just left underneath the surface to fester.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/17 02:58 PM
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The challenge I have for BP/ non RP folks on this on is not to debate whether he was being a prick, because he was. But to explain why he should be removed from the site for stating what many women state just as openly on their public profiles?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/17 02:45 PM
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In fairness, it's only because your point was ridiculous and based on misunderstanding how English works.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/17 05:52 AM
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"Creep" is used to describe your opinion of a woman's behavior. "Slutty" is used to describe a feeling you have as a result of a person's behavior. The suffix "y" typical means “characterized by or inclined to” the substance or action of the word or stem to which the suffix is attached. Compare slutty to creepy or creep to slut, and they convey very similarly.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/17 11:14 PM
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You would be surprised at how many men need exactly this. There will always be the hard seller, and there will always be the girl who will drink all night on a guy's tab, the have her bf pick her up at last call, but generally, 9/10 times, he'll take the hint if she gives one. They may not understand at all that "being nice" and giving a guy a little bit of kind attention can be interpreted by him as something else. People generally see an interaction through the prism they want. That's why the …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/17 08:29 PM
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Creep and slut are similar ideas in that, while certain behaviors are objectively creepy/slutty, especially in certain contexts, the point where the label 'creep'or 'slut' is applied is much more subjective. The problem with 'creep' is that it's commonly overused. A guy who sniffs your hair is creepy, no one disagrees, but to give that same label to a guy that politely if somewhat awkwardly asks a woman out is unnecessarily harsh on guy #2, and diminishes the label guy #1 deserves.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/17 08:11 PM
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I'd generally say go with option A, but be aware of and shut down obvious expressions of interest. There's no need to scream "I HAVE A BF!!!" at every dude who makes eye contact, but you should give the guy an out once it becomes clear he's building to/ after something. I think most women understand and generally (try) to do this. But some guys are bad at sending the right messages, and some women are bad at receiving them, and a minority of women claim ignorance to justify being sh*tty people.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/17 07:27 PM
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Firstly, advice from TRP isn't really for you. It's exclusively male centered, and while you can benefit from it, it is male advice for males. I'd recommend asking RPW for a better take. That said, If you really are a pretty attractive, fit, 21 year old attending University, you shouldn't really have trouble getting prospects. As far as holding off on sex, the main concerns guys have in waiting are that they're being used or that the girl isn't really attracted to him. The trick to putting off s…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/17 05:07 PM
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As an ideology/philosophy, it's a nice thought. Most people on the TRP side don't necessarily like having the views/opinions they do. BP pictures a kinder, gentler SMP, and I wish they were right. I also think it's broadly a genuine conclusion, in that BPers genuinely believe what they're saying, and their life experience supports what they believe. As a sub, it makes TRP ever stronger and more successful by being willfully ignorant or self righteous in misrepresenting even basic stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/17 03:10 PM
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N count is fairly black and white as a measure, but I would agree that the specific # at which it becomes "too many" is different.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/17 03:01 PM
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The male equivalent of a vibrator dildo is a fleshlight. FTFY. Fleshlights are not (that i'm aware of) battery operated. Personally, I don't find using devices, powered or otherwise, inherently more shameful than f#cking one's own hand/fingers. But since OP seems to find the idea of a powered device absurd, I'm wondering if she feels the same about vibrators, which she clearly doesn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/17 02:33 PM
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Can you imagine a man using a robot to get off!?! It's preposterous! Anyways, I got a new vibrator...
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/17 06:41 PM
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Actually, OP never said anything about just positive, OP asked for something positive. Sometimes, you have to give the negative context to explain why a trait is so positive. ex. Sally was a heroin addict, but she's been clean for 6 years./ Dave used to be 100lbs overweight, now he looks good./ Carol used to be a party girl and slut, but she's really stepped up since becoming a mom.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/17 05:58 PM
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Actually, I'd say this is more illustrative of a non RP issue, namely the inability to understand or accept nuanced or mixed views of women. /u/LewisCross opened with three obvious and forthright positive traits he sees in his wife, My wife works hard for our family and kids.[1] She is intelligent and has a lot of common sense,[2] and can take care of things without me micromanaging her.[3] He then compliments her ability to change herself for the betterment of their relationship, and gives some…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/17 05:35 PM
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a man is fat and loses weight revealing attractive traits beneath the fat; he's extremely scrawny and builds muscle (and does some roids that make his face features more manly if they are weak); he's homeless and dresses/smells like one and solves this situation; Just those three encompass the majority of people in the U.S. There's no promise you'll be a perfect physical specimen, but optimizing what you have will bear fruit in most cases. If a guy is a 4, and cleans himself up to a 7, that guy …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/17 03:38 PM
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Less than ten percent of all women expect that having sex will lead to relationships and for those that have casual sex the number is even lower. Got a source on that, Chief?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/17 03:31 PM
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If you use fair here to mean equitable, then your point is patently wrong. If fair is meant to mean just, then I tend to agree with you, but that's a subject of personal philosophy with no real correct answer. Are the strongest among us entitled to the whole of the fruits of their abilities? Or must they share some of the spoils with those lesser among us?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/17 02:35 PM
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So every women who expresses a preference for taller men is automatically shaming shorter men, even if all they're doing is stating a personal preference. Also, anytime a woman expresses a preference for taller men, she should be labelled a weak, insecure loser.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/17 06:10 PM
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they'll get into serious relationships and act like selfish idiots and randomly neg their girlfriends who may or may not be a bit hotter than them This isn't acting "like alphas". It's a lack of confidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/17 02:48 PM
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How so? Where am I using your definition of insecure?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 07:17 PM
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So now that we've gotten that out of the way, I'll redirect you to my point and then maybe you'll be able to move forward with the discussion I don't think insecurity (or what I would call a healthy dose of caution) necessarily makes someone weak. The same way wearing a seat belt when one drives doesn't mean a lack of confidence in their driving abilities, it doesn't mean a guy is weak or low value to think that maybe no, the 23 y.o chick with the n of 50 is maybe not the best relationship mater…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 06:50 PM
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Then let me help you, Dictionary definition of insecure What you're talking about, a healthy dose of caution
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 06:46 PM
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You have a very odd definition of insecure.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 06:36 PM
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Feel free to challenge the view. Personally, most of the guys I know understand on some level that there's no percentage in it for them to dissuade a girl who wants to put their dicks in her mouth < 3 hours after meeting. It disservices them and single men in general. It's women who I've seen time and again pull out the long knives on each other over who's f#cking whom and how often.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 06:18 PM
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I don't think insecurity (or what I would call a healthy dose of caution) necessarily makes someone weak. The same way wearing a seat belt when one drives doesn't mean a lack of confidence in their driving abilities, it doesn't mean a guy is weak or low value to think that maybe no, the 23 y.o chick with the n of 50 is maybe not the best relationship material. To spin this around, I could say it's only weak, insecure women that care about some men not wanting to date sluts. If they were secure i…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 05:57 PM
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Don't men do this to virginal women all the time? I'd suggest to you that there are very few men going after virgin women for relationships in the U.S, partially because I don't think I've met a female virgin over 18 in years. it's just a trait that people find attractive at certain points in their lives, surely. The thing is it was never in a "I've grown up and realized you're what I want and I'd really like to go out sometime" kind of way. It was more of a 'suddenly want to hook up randomly on…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 03:41 PM
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I don't know if I'd fully qualify it as gold digging, but the end goal is to have the stability and provisions. I've never been particularly rich, but I have had a few instances of clear security seeking. It wasn't that I was rich, but that I was stable, and they thought I had the ability to give them the whole stable home, good father, happy life thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/17 06:29 PM
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They don't, considering they're .01% of the "female" population, and not a group that shows up on my radar in terms of dating/sex. If I had to give it thought, I'd probably draw parallels between the distinctly feminine behavior and thought process of my buddy's twink boyfriends and what I suspect is going on in the head of a person with a penis who identifies as female.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/17 05:31 PM
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I'm less partial to the third measure. Too much government intervention, too expensive - especially when the cases of paternity fraud are very low. I'd agree, if the existing system wasn't the government intervening to demand a man pay out a significant chunk of his earnings in child support. And what if a man didn't want to know? He shouldn't be forced to That's fair, but you could just do the test and they could opt out of receiving the results. I think the French instituted a system like this…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/17 04:40 PM
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Okay so women don't get called 'sluts' or chastised for wearing certain clothing? Big difference between calling specific women sluts (which can be unjustified) and treating all men as would be rapists.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/16 10:11 PM
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"Woe is me" is a stupid, useless viewpoint no matter what kind of adversity you face. That said, it is a valid point to be made in a discussion of sex and gender relations that male sexuality is treated more negatively than female sexuality, especially when we consider people with low SMV. For example, a fat girl is never labelled a 'creep' for hitting on a guy, and we don't pretend that young women need to learn not to rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/16 07:42 PM
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I kind of wonder about that. Even at my fattest (which was considerable) I've always been able to see it when looking down. So I was either never as fat as I thought, or better hung than I thought.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 03:02 PM
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You really find those terms offensive? Even SMV? I'd think it'd be harder for blues to go without saying terp, misogynist, toxic, problematic, or dripping edgy sarcasm.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 02:36 PM
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Ah. In that case, not really. Most of the guys I know with high counts outperform low count guys in both LTR length/quality, and casual FWB situations. How they do vs. guys with middling experience? I can't say for sure other than that the two strongest relationships I know of among my contemporaries, the guys are both fairly high N.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/16 04:51 PM
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I find that having a significant history helps me with women. They don't want to know my exact #, especially if it's significantly higher than hers, but most of the women I've dated generally want to know that I've had some experience with women before, and that those women were fairly attractive. This is particularly observable in how each gender would feel with a virgin partner. For a significant percentage (if not majority) of women, virginity is a negative or a deal breaker. Meanwhile many m…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/16 03:37 PM
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Bottom line is; Women (and men) have the right to f#ck whomever they please, as long as it's a non related consenting adult. Men (and women) who're unsuccessful in the SMP have the right to be upset about it. They also have the right to realize that becoming bitter about there situation doesn't help, and apply different strategies to become successful. Women (and men) have a right to mock and deride those who are unsuccessful or bitter. Everyone else has a right to mock them in turn as catty b*t…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/16 03:10 PM
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Finally, a woman is allowed to arrange a gangbang with 50 guys. When the 51 shows up, she's still allowed to say no to him. If he refuses, that's rape. Agree wholeheartedly, but you must admit that'd be a difficult thing to prove beyond a reasonable doubt.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/16 03:33 PM
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Low SMV woman I'd define as bottom 30%. Not only would I not f#ck them, I can't think of more than 1-2 men who would. She's the girl you wouldn't even bang when you're sh*t-faced drunk. Aesthetically, a low SMV women is not necessarily but usually fat/doughy, to the extent that she looks unfeminine. Bad skin and noticeable body hair are two other factors usually present. do you derive pleasure from rejecting them? I've never taken pleasure from rejecting someone. It's tough to put yourself out o…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/16 03:31 PM
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The idea is to present superiority. He won the engagement, but by going full on, suggested the other guy as his equal and his jokes as damaging. If you're above someone, you don't punch down.
/r/askTRP23/12/16 08:29 AM
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He was saying this stuff trying to make his best friend laugh, while laughing himself, in front of everyone. And I lost it. I kept my cool, I laughed and said to those near me (including the girl) how "he's just pissy because he's still trying to figure out which dick his ex is currently riding". [FULL STOP] What you did is essentially show how much he got to you by lowering yourself to his level. If you had stopped at the point above, you'd have a much easier time passing it off as a friendly c…
/r/askTRP22/12/16 09:53 PM
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The 3 factors are status, game, and looks. You need a baseline level of all 3, and a strong showing in at least 2. The average guy can't do it, but the average guy has the ability to get to a place where he can do it. Mid 20s, Northeast
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/16 08:59 PM
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Gonna need a link to that one. Also, that wasn't the question. Do YOU consider rape a viable sexual strategy in the same way you call prostitution a viable sexual strategy?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/16 05:28 PM
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So by the "illegal and socially unacceptable but still exists" standard, you also consider rape a viable sexual strategy?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/16 05:04 PM
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In the same way Bank Robber is not a viable career strategy, prostitution is not a viable sexual strategy for most in the West. Generally, if you are required to break the law to do something, then it is not considered a viable strategy.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/16 04:37 PM
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For me, actions and how one lives their life in practice is more important than ideology. For example, I'm right wing, some of my best friends have at different times been, an anarchist, a liberal, a democratic socialist (Bernie supporter), a fascist, and a conservative. But these people basically all live their lives centered around being decent and enjoying their friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/16 03:58 PM
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Men are generally easier to shop for, we have simpler, more obvious tastes.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/16 03:44 PM
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In short, 3rd wave feminism. 3rd wave feminism is fairly unique among ideologies, in that it tells it's target audience they are weak, and need Government/culture to warp from centuries of precedent specifically for there feelings. 3rd wave feminism creates mythical problems, rather than face legitimate problems. While girls in the Middle East get disfigured for trying to get an education, feminists in the U.S march around topless to protest men looking at them. While Saudi women cannot be in pu…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/16 03:37 PM
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I find a good general heuristic to determine if dating advice is bad is to see if the word 'Just' can be affixed to the front of it without making it feel awkward. If 'Just' fits, it means the advice is too shallow to be of any real use. (ex. Just be yourself, Just be nice) ...learn to love yourself before you love somebody else" This is among the douchiest, least helpful non-statements people make. Humans are such social creatures, of course an extended period feeling unloved and severely under…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 05:24 PM
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Hang out in social groups with plenty of people of the appropriate sex. Talk to people. Learn how to recognize when somebody's into you. Let other people know you're into them, by a bit friendly flirting if there's any mutual chemistry. If somebody's interested in you, it will be easy to make things happen. If it's a struggle, take the hint. Don't get too emotionally invested in somebody unless they're reciprocating. Looks matter! Do what you can to look clean & well-groomed, and going to the gy…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 04:57 PM
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Skeptical, but pleased.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/16 08:07 PM
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While I don't like the term 'fair', and tend to discourage it's use, I think here it generally can be considered shorthand for 'structural inequality'. They mean 'fair' as in balanced and equal, not necessarily fair as in morally just. My question is, if she is capable of landing that kind of guy, why would she lower her standards? She doesn't care if you think she's a 4/10 and doesn't deserve a 9/10 guy if she can land that 9/10 guy. If she can't land a 9/10 guy and she's perfectly fine being s…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/16 08:03 PM
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In my opinion/experience, "women's intuition" is the product of women never being corrected by the men in their life re: romantic/emotional matters. It's the macro effect of thousands of men saying "Yes dear" to their partners thousands of times, because whatever the topic is isn't worth a 2 hour fight.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/16 04:20 PM
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In my opinion/experience, "women's intuition" is the product of women never being corrected by the men in their life re: romantic/emotional matters. It's the macro effect of thousands of men saying "Yes dear" to their partners thousands of times, because whatever the topic is isn't worth a 2 hour fight.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/16 04:20 PM
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You shouldn't f*ck other people outside your relationship. If you absolutely HAVE to, the honorable/moral/right thing to do is tell them and face the consequences of your actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/16 05:06 PM
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"Be yourself, don't ever change." "Just put out, that's all it really takes." (In fairness, both of those came from women, but it's the worst advice I've heard given to a guy/girl)
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/16 04:34 PM
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Pragmatic conservative/ social libertarian.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/16 03:45 PM
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Do you agree with people who are locked in a dead bedroom who cheat? Do you condone it? I'd say I understand without condoning. In the case of shared loans, too many expenses, can't divorce or won't, would you see it as wrong? Cheating is always wrong, some instances are more understandable than others, but it's always wrong. Should the cheater have permission from the cheated on or should he/she hide it? By definition, having permission is not cheating.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/16 03:23 PM
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I agree sobriety is much less conducive to hooking up than being a drinker/partier, but your descriptions here come across as off putting. I messaged men on Tinder, in a perfectly sober, punctuated way, telling them where and when to meet me. I met with a few of these men. They kept asking me to drink, offering me drinks etc. Not only I refused, I also told them nothing would happen if they got too intoxicated themselves. This comes across as off putting for being too formal and judgmental, not …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/16 08:13 PM
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but videoing a rape is incredibly impractical as, lets assume its somewhat violent, mininal holding someone down from behind and raping them. just set one up before hand? Hey, you're the one that listed it as potential evidence. What if the defendants story keeps changing, and it becomes obvious he has lied multiple times on the stand? Would that sway you? The standard here is 'beyond a reasonable doubt'. That means the cumulative effect of the evidence has to add up to a 99% chance that they di…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/16 06:18 PM
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I was speaking of household income, but practically speaking, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/16 03:13 PM
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A rape kit would prove sex occurred and that she was uncomfortable with it in a reasonable amount of time to consider an assault. A consistent story would decrease the likelihood she was lying. Bruising would prove that some physical contact occurred at some point, it could corroborate but not definitively prove sex or unwelcome use of force. Video evidence would be conclusive as long as it shows sex occurring and the victim clearly telling the perpetrator to stop, or made clear she could not do…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/16 03:10 PM
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Men care about physical attractiveness more than women. Campuses are a perfect example of a closed market where a 6 with money or a 5 with great personality can really date up in terms of pure looks. Also, (and this is more of a tangential point then an answer to your question) I've noticed what appears to be a trend where, if there's a noticeable gap in attractiveness between the couples, a higher SMV woman tends to correlate with higher income, whereas a lower comparative SMV woman correlates …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/16 02:55 PM
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When you're doing this, range is only one number, and arguably the least important. For example, in your previous thread, guy #1 did have a range of 2-8. However, to conclude that this means their was no consensus on his attractiveness is simply a false conclusion. When you take the data set, 8, 5, 6, 2, 6, 5, 5, 5, 4, 5, 4, 5, 4, 6, 6, 5, 5, 5, 6, 2 You end up with an average of 4.95. This is a decent indicator of the guy's attractiveness, but not perfect, because it still allows the possibilit…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/16 03:36 PM
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For relationships, The absolute best is an extended social network. Look a degree or two outside your core group and you'll usually find an easy 5-10 people that are at least fair candidates for dating. For quick and easy sex, usually a local watering hole or nightclub. Wherever 20 something girls show a bunch of cleavage and do shots.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/16 09:03 PM
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Barney is a (admittedly enjoyable) cartoonish attempt at manosphere/PUA types, and in the end he abandons all that. they[sic] story of how Marshall and Lily fell in love teaches us to be tall, hung and to smoke weed with the ladies. Teaches us to be tall and hung? Super helpful. It also stays that it was True LoveTM.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/16 04:22 PM
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What about normal series like How I Met Your Mother? Yeah, Ted and Marshall would be super out of place in a rom/com.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/16 03:37 PM
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Romantic comedies are hard to avoid. Unless you have a great HBO package, your ability to find "predator and terminator and goodfellas and apocalypse now." is fairly limited. Rom/coms are an extreme example of the media trend. HIMYM, Friends, Big Bang Theory, virtual every sitcom or TV show about young adults portrays the same idealistic, BP bullsh*t.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/16 03:04 PM
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She is explicitly saying no no no and struggling. He hold her down has sex and finishes in her. Rape
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/16 03:00 PM
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Emulate what you see in rom/coms Be yourself Listen closely to advice women give and ignore actions that seem to contradict that. If you're already physically attractive, you can trip into success, but many guys are left wanting.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/16 02:58 PM
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(also why did you censor the word shitty when this sub contains so much more nonPC discussion than that word? No problem with it, just wondering why.) Purely a personal/stylistic choice. True, you could turn it around, if the conversation wasn't about single mothers.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/16 10:00 PM
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Why do people always take the women initiate 70% of divorces statistic to show that women are fickle? The statistic doesn't mention why the divorces were initiated. It could have been the man's fault just as much as it could have been the woman's fault. Which, for the purposes of this discussion, means; a. She was a sh*tty partner. Or, b. She was sh*tty at choosing a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/16 09:00 PM
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I think the lack of motivation you'll have throughout the next day or so, when you should be productive, is a problem. and if you feel that lack of motivation, you should cut back or stop. But if you feel that you're doing what you need to, or that it's better than the distraction of persistent sexual frustration, then you're probably ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/16 07:15 PM
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Personally, I know people who use cocaine and are not addicts, but rather are productive, well adjusted people. Just like enjoying a night out drinking with the boys doesn't make you an alcoholic, watching porn doesn't make you an addict. Now, if you're downing a sixer by noon or beating your meat to a paid video in the company bathroom at 12:30pm, you have a problem, but that's not most porn consumers. If you consider the amount of porn/alcohol/tobacco/caffeine/carbs/video games you consume to …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/16 06:05 PM
2

Like anything else it's fine for those in the majority who can use it in moderation and not have it overtake their real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/16 05:15 PM
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I'd call it 75%. The other 25% include women who; Are independently/familial wealthy, and have the resources to raise the child as a single parent. Divorcees/Widows, who had a reasonable expectation of partnership (though if she initiates divorce, that's points off her "score"). Low IQ, poor women in severely economically depressed areas, where public assistance is the most stable form of income.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/16 03:05 PM
1

I wouldn't sleep with any woman who has a significant other that has a reasonable expectation of her fidelity.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/16 05:04 PM
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Since starting to read it, I have initiated sex with my husband more, made more of an effort to look attractive, and been more attentive to his needs. This has all made me feel good in the relationship as well. If reading what I write means another guy can have a happier, better relationship without having to go through what I went through and feel the pain I felt to get to this point, then I'm good with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/16 10:22 PM
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I put men in the friend zone right and left. Nice humble-brag dude. Why would you WANT to be with someone who you have to beg and chase to be with you? I think it's fairly obvious we don't get to choose who we want to be with. If that were true, there would be a lot fewer women dating cheaters, prisoners, and dealers, and a lot more women head over heels for Dave the Accountant. Why would you even want to have sex with them? That's not a serious question. It's like a dog waiting in the rain hopi…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/16 04:05 PM
1

I've always held the belief and will continue to do so, Everything a man throws at you to get laid, no matter how stupid or off-putting, has worked before, either for him or someone he knows. Otherwise it would disappear into the ether with other failed tactics.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/16 03:07 PM
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That's typically the strategy of either the very high quality product that knows exactly what it's target is, or the very low quality product that would never be bought without a hard sell. So the SMP analogies would probably be the 9+ who knows she wants to date an actor/NFL star, or the 4-5 who isn't attractive enough for guys to really hit on, but will still get laid eventually if she goes around throwing herself at them.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/16 03:02 PM
3

Women wouldn't take charge of the dating arena, as evidenced by the fact that women have never led in the dating arena.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/16 02:53 PM
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I overlap in some viewpoints with MRAs, but don't associate with some of there whiny, feminist-like tactics. I think men are screwed royally by our legal system when compared to women, particularly by family courts and incarceration rates. I think men should have same rights re: parenthood that women do. (i.e, Choosing whether or not to be a parent, even after sex/ Presumed 50:50 parenting/Presumption of fitness/State mandated family leave) I think DV laws are currently very anti-male, and that …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/16 02:51 PM
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In the SMP, men are the buyers and women are the sellers. Men actively pursue, women make themselves pursuable, but are mostly passive. Therefore, women have more incentive to make themselves as visually appealing as possible, so as to maximize both the size and quality of her pool of potential suitors. Essentially, women work harder on looks for the same reason someone selling a car invests in an interior cleaning or new coat of paint.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/16 02:34 PM
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Like most subjects where people are prone to lie, I don't ask about n-count to get a number. If I ask, it's to get a reaction. Approximate n-count is something I can usually suss out from observation/conversation. EDIT: The question is also ridiculous. Others propensity to lie about something has no effect on whether one cares about it or not. Cheating husband usually lie, should wives also not care?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/16 04:19 PM
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True, but in the court of public opinion and socially, it's not sexual assault, or by degrees, it's RAPE. We call the guy who banged a drunk co-ed who had regrets the next day the same thing we call the beast that tears a woman's skirt off in a back alley at knife point, and that is rapist. I think we should all collectively take a deep breath and acknowledge that people can do some sleazy/ douchey things to have sex, and still not have committed rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/16 06:32 AM
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If she says 'no' and you still stick it in, that's rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/16 06:27 AM
1

Do you have an example of a different situation involving exclusivity? For instance, If a woman wanted to be considered my girlfriend, we'd need to be exclusive. My buddy is cool with open relationships, but eventually wants a closed marriage. Another was fine with an open marriage, but wanted it closed before they had kids. However, it's entirely possible to love more than one person, so I do not need or expect sexual exclusivity on either of our parts. I think part of the issue for some men is…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/16 09:46 PM
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The word 'rape' has a very established and culturally understood meaning, namely the forcible and brutal penetration of a woman. This definition also has a strong gut level cultural response, revulsion and anger for the perpetrator. The problem is that feminists have tried to widen that definition while maintaining the gut level cultural response that the established definition engendered, and that just doesn't work. F#cking a visibly drunk but still responsive woman is just flat out not worth a…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/16 08:15 PM
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I guess for me, sexual exclusivity is not a requirement for dating.\ Is that true at all levels? I know several people who are more lax on the exclusivity thing (as long as their needs are met), but even they draw a line requiring exclusivity at some level. Part of it could also be that i'm not really emotional, so while I understand that emotional intimacy is something a lot of women need in a good LTR, for me it does very little. The (admittedly somewhat flawed) way I know she has those feelin…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/16 07:47 PM
1

I think it's a misunderstanding to think that 'spinning plates' qualifies as 'dating', or that plate spinning is seen as the optimal solution for all guys in all circumstances. Plate spinning is not a relationship. You can upgrade a plate to relationship status, but my main requirement there is sexual exclusivity.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/16 07:19 PM
2

Someone's still salty about 1776.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/16 04:52 PM
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The thing is there are a lot of folks asking new lambo prices for used toyota quality. Nothing wrong with a used Toyota, but it isn't worth the same as a new Lambo.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/16 04:39 PM
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Because statistically, poor areas populated by refugees are more likely to see violent crime. Also, because unlike the West, many of the cultures sending us refugees nowadays are literal "rape cultures", where the idea of raping a woman not in your special club varies from encouraged by radicals, to frowned upon and tsked by moderates.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/16 03:38 PM
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Would you date someone who was upfront about being non-exclusive with you? The question just doesn't make sense to me. A defining feature of "dating" (STR/LTR) for me is sexual exclusivity. Otherwise she's at best a friend, or more likely, 'that girl I sometimes bang'.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/16 03:31 PM
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It may not be better for the whole, but it's better for the individual. Each individual woman is better off maximizing her SMV in comparison to the other women in said market. This causes them all to maximize, which in terms raises the beauty standards overall. I think philosophy majors would call it the Prisoner's Dilemma.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/16 02:37 PM
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Funny, most of the girls I know would describe their exes as "asshole", "jerk", "douche bag" "loser". Very few "good" or "honorable". So how can women like a certain type of man, but by their own admission date/f#ck exclusively the other type? The answer is they aren't and don't. But things like good, respects me, and honorable, sound like nice features a guy should have, so she ascribe them to him. Otherwise, she'd have to admit that she's letting a PoS with no respect for her f#ck her. And if …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/16 03:22 PM
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Someone that isn't sexist and gets turned down harshly thinks "oh she's a bitch", someone that's sexist thinks "women are bitches" and someone who gets turned down 5 times consecutively turns a little resentful of the whole thing. 10 time the resentment turns to bitterness. Bitterness creates a feedback loop where all X are Y.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/16 03:08 PM
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People's perspective on a given pairing can be broken down into 5 categories, based on the his physical SMV compared to hers. WTF is he thinking?!?! She must s*ck a helluva dick. Yeah, seems about right. He must be charming/well endowed/funny. I wonder if he gets a discount for paying by the month instead of by the hour? Preselction works at classes 3 and 4. Class 4 is optimum, because it suggests to other women that you have some impressive hidden quality, worthy of the attention of attractive …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/16 02:53 PM
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Get this through your head now; She's not your girlfriend. That relationship is over. From her you have 2 options: Hard Next: No contact, it's a full breakup. You're done. She may try to backpedal, if she does, you dump her. She asked to f#ck other guys. It's over. Downgrade to plate: If the sex is good, keep having sex with her. You have to make sure you keep it strictly casual. That means No to dates, No to hanging out w/o sex, and No to anything a boyfriend would be expected to do but a frien…
/r/askTRP17/11/16 05:05 PM
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if a guy goes years without a relationship or sex, he gets used to it. Humans have the capacity to get used to a lot. Doesn't mean it stops bothering them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/16 05:48 PM
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So do you also think poverty doesn't exist because one can rob an ATM?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/16 05:47 PM
2

Sometimes. I respect myself, but I wouldn't say I always like myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/16 02:42 PM
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The problem with incels in discussing these things is that they're so deep in the pit of hopelessness and self-loathing that they can't see a way out, much less one that's a long term solution that will slowly increase one's odds over 6 months to a couple years. On the other side, the issue with some BPers (many of them women, I'd guess) is an utterly ridiculous denial that inceldom exists. Inceldom is based on not getting to have sex, the atttraction is implied, as any single woman who claims t…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/16 02:59 PM
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But they aren't hot, they're housewifes who watch sitcoms. The reality of their husbands decline is obvious to them, but they like to imagine they haven't lost a step.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/16 02:07 PM
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Unfortunately, the nature of our anonymous discussion means we're trapped using famous people for comparisons, but I find this idea holds steady for most groupings of women. TRhat doesn't mean women can't have very different looks and be on the same 'level' ,just that fairly uniform levels exist in a culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/16 07:37 AM
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I always kind of thought that the "hot sitcom wife" was a trope more designed to appeal to women watching the show by mirroring how wives see/want to see themselves; Witty, Nearly always right, Incredibly attractive despite the kids and years of life stress, Long suffering and loyal wife to a lovable dolt who in no way deserves her.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/16 09:08 PM
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This is fair, but not so wildly that the average is far of from the mode. Also worth exploring, women put less weight on looks than men do when determining attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/16 08:25 PM
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It sounds like what feminism should be, an affirmation of the power of feminity.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/16 06:09 PM
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The fact that there is some variance on the exact number doesn't change that there's a fairly objective scale. If I asked 1000 men to rank Kate Upton, Lena Dunham, and Rosie O'Donnell, from most to least attractive, at least 975 out of the 1000 will put them in the same order. The quibbling about whether Kate is an 8 or a 9, or whether Lena is a 3 or a 4 is secondary, and even those would circle tightly around an average consensus.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/16 04:46 PM
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The main cause here was an out of touch ivory tower elite making the terrible assumption that average Americans agree with their assumption that they are better/smarter than average Americans. They also assumed you could just insult your opponent rather than debate ideas or answer charges against your side. That said, RP thought was definitely more "mainstream" during the election. Milo was treated as a normal political pundit, and the anti-PC approach is basic TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/16 03:57 PM
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The fact that she married you probably means you went from a yes, to a not now, back to a yes. I don't think that's the same as starting from No.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/16 03:33 PM
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I think some men who're already "bisexual" are choosing to go primarily gay due to the general terriblness of our dating culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/16 03:08 PM
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Genetics gives you a hard ceiling, but the average person doesn't come near that ceiling due to sh*tty diet, lack ogf exercise, and a poor understanding of style. Genetics may peak you at an 8, but a genetic 8 with poor diet, exercise, hygeine and style will probably look like a 4-5.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/16 02:26 PM
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It feels better to be reviled than ignored.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/16 03:44 PM
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My gut response is that making it an ultimatum should result in a hard next, but you know that already, so if you're here looking for the 2% hail mary chance of salvaging this, I'd use a paraphrase of what I used to say if a girl I'd been seeing was slow or underenthusiastic on the physical aspect: " Look, I like you. I like having you around, and i'm attracted to you. I wouldn't be dating you otherwise. But I'm an adult man, and I'm looking for an adult relationship. Sex is a part of that. My p…
/r/askTRP10/11/16 04:55 PM
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I'd agree that Winona Ryder is on his level. Interesting point, they actually dated for 3 years, so maybe that age difference isn't so outlandish.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/16 03:51 PM
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Johnny Depp is also an objectively better actor than all but maybe one of those women. PS, Keira Knightley wasn't really his "love interest" in Pirates.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/16 03:12 PM
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Okay, I'm intrigued...why does anal count twice? Anal is more...serious? intimate? That's not the right word for it, but basically it seems less common outside a relationship, very few people are going back door in a ONS. And do you count pegging twice as well (or is that 3x, because of how rare it is)? I don't know honestly. I guess? Truthfully, I don't care about male N, so that's up to women to decide.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/16 05:49 PM
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Late to the game here, but here's my two cents: Some guys are liars and jerks. Not all, not even most. You need to learn to filter those out. Same way we need to learn to filter gold diggers and validation whores. Sometimes sex is the only value a woman offers. Sometimes, men are clear about the relationship but women think they can "change him", so they stick around too long then act like he lied when they leave (my personal experience) Sometimes, a man can genuinely think he likes/loves a woma…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/16 05:33 PM
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" I have the two qualities you require to see absolute truth: I am brilliant. And unloved."
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/16 04:49 PM
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Would you be encouraged and think "this an easy lay"? Or would you be turned off by it? Both. I'd still go for it, but I'd be likely to remain completely casual, and would be willing to deal with a lot less bullsh*t.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/16 04:21 PM
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I'm talking hetero here because homosexual N matters exactly zero to me. Basically, I think oral counts for half and anal counts for double.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/16 03:55 PM
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I vaguely remember reading a while ago that women and men watch porn differently. Men watch it and think: "She's hot, I'd like to do that to her." Women watch it and think: "That's hot, I'd like to have that done to me."
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/16 07:27 PM
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The right of someone to have a child is kind of up there with societies needs however, after all, none of us would exist if people didn't have children. That's an outdated argument. Obviously, reproduction has and will always occur. But we clearly don't believe in a public policy of maximum population growth anymore, otherwise abortion would be illegal. There is also the factor of the kid itself, the child does not live in a vacuum where the parent's poverty doesn't effect it. Isn't it unfair th…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/16 03:26 PM
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To me, guaranteeing someone the right to make a choice does not guarantee support/funding of that choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/16 02:25 PM
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Rape is the denial of sexual agency. Therefore the situation you describe is clearly rape. But here's the flaw in your hypothetical. The reason rape charges are so damn tricky, is because the rapist is doing something that under normal circumstances, would be normal and pleasurable. The act itself does not imply criminality, but the intent and desire of the parties involved. People don't generally view being shot as a normal, positive thing. Or a stranger taking your car, or even a straight man …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/16 02:07 PM
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I'm guessing most people aren't going to get what you're doing until it's explained.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/16 05:14 PM
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I can think of a couple off the top of my head. Both were definitely on the thicker side, but very pretty. One has a big, squat-made ass, and the other has a fantastic pair DDs. It's not the norm, but it's doable in some cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/16 04:29 PM
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That's decent. I think the key point in the question is to presume an existing attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/16 04:26 PM
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My N3 program here.
/r/TheRedPill02/11/16 03:52 PM
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Gonna take a shot at interpreting this more succinctly: What are some traits you look for in a partner beside sexual attractiveness? What are some traits that make you want to upgrade a person you're already seeing?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/16 03:39 PM
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Intellect Curiosity Compatibility with my group of friends Similar cultural views (family/sex/drugs&alcohol/etc) Compatible sense of humor. A baseline level of having her sh*t together.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/16 03:27 PM
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Assuming the weight gain is a. Unhealthy b. Unattractive. How long would you wait to tell them? I'd probably say something if she gained or lost ~10% of her own body weight in a month, or I noticed a consistent increase over 3+ months. How would you tell them? I think the fairest thing to do is to be upfront about it. Tell her you still love her as much if not more than you did the day you married her, but that the unhealthy choices in the past X months are detrimental to both her health and the…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/16 03:06 PM
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110lbs is a perfectly fine weight for a 5'5" women, depending on body type. 160lbs is also a perfectly fine weight for a 5' 5" woman, depending on body type. It all comes down to body type, which is fairly widely variable. If the man who married her, says he recognizes her to have moved into the overweight column from gaining 50lbs, then short of pictures, his judgement of the situation is probably the best barometer. I think if the women in the 110lbs picture gained 50lbs, most reasonable folks…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/16 02:43 PM
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women themselves are not always 100% sure they are liked by the guy they are dating. This sounds of course absurd from a male perspective because who the fuck goes on four dates with a woman they have no interest in. I've never understood this, and in all likelihood never will. To me, it's obvious that the guy is interested, if only because the guy has to take the active/pursuer role in the dating game. I could understand wondering if the interest is beyond sexual, but to me effort is an obvious…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/16 09:17 PM
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I agree with your assessment and prescription, the thing is we come by it honestly. Half the time I wouldn't even call it a lack of confidence, I'd call it a lack of feedback. We don't have the daily feedback loop women have telling them they're sexually appealing. This is why some of us think the commotion about 'catcalling' and 'sexualizing women' is overblown. We'd actually like some sort of affirmation that we're attractive. We have met four times and he still hasn't kissed me (next time I'm…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/16 08:36 PM
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I actually did use treatments to combat it. The problem is that teenagers by and large just get acne. Mine was the kind that would be no more than 1-3 pimples on my face at any given time, but since my skin tone is very fair (Irish), the red 'stain' would persist for a while.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/16 08:22 PM
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How much have you improved your looks? What did you do? I'd say I've gone up a good 1-2 over the past few years. Lost a fair amount of weight, and found a hair/beard style that suits me. My skin has also cleared up with age. How hot do you think you could be if you really worked it? Why? If it became my job (actor/athlete/etc), I could probably make it to 8-8.5.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/16 07:26 PM
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The general rule I think is once you realize it's becoming a "Relationship". I think some stuff should be brought up when they realize it's going to be an issue. If a rape victim, for instance, I'd want to know about that before going too far physically.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/16 03:26 PM
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Barack Obama is a pretty tame, non-extreme yet also well known feminist. And Michelle. Elizabeth Warren. Joe Biden. Bernie Sanders. Patrick Stewart. Ivanka Trump. So were more or less just assuming 'moderate feminist' is another term for Liberal/Democrat?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/16 02:36 PM
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The idea is they "see themselves" as the heroic knight in shining armour, riding in to defend M'lady against the scourge of 'misogynists' and 'jerks', with the secret hope that M'lady will reward his noble deeds with her favour. Also this.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 08:08 PM
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You asked about the value of promiscuous men in a thread about the preferences of men in response to an OP about the preferences of straight men. Their value is nothing to the people being discussed in this thread, they are irrelevant to this conversation. If you want to make a post about promiscuous men and their value to women and gays, I bet you can find someone nice enough to teach you how to create your very own post about the subject.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 04:18 PM
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Never understood how women can be so comfortable telling the man in their life; What to wear How to act Where to go What to say What to do How to do it and then get all shy when it comes to telling him how to f#ck her best. Ladies, that's the one area of knowledge you are indisputably a world expert, and men will gladly take any and all advice that yields results. (In b4 he should "just know": Fine, have fun with your subpar sex, you deserve it for being so aggressively passive.)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 04:10 PM
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What's the value of the town carousel horse? Irrelevant to a straight man.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 02:00 PM
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So you're saying i'm correct in saying a no can't be turned into a yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/16 08:30 PM
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Well, the way I parse it out; 16-17: Loses virginity to high school sweetheart. 18: Graduates high school with an N: 1-2. 18-22:College. A few random hook-ups, but generally 1-2 boyfriends/fwb. N: 3-7 23-25: Post college: Continue with college fwb/bf, or start dating a bit more seriously/ selectively. N: 4-11. PS: I realized in writing this I appear to have misunderstood OPs question, in that I've given what I find reasonable instead of what I think the average is. I'd consider the average for a…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/16 06:25 PM
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Ah. Well in that case, ignore the first paragraph and assume my response starts at part II.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/16 02:44 PM
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I'd say normal range is anywhere from 4-10. I'd consider < 2 low. I'd consider 15+ high.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/16 02:26 PM
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My parents prepared me under the rules of the SMP they grew up in, the 60's/70's/80's. The current dating scene is so different I don't see how they could have possibly.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/16 02:15 PM
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If I remember right, HSV 1 is oral, and not really STD associated like what we commonly call genital herpes. It also has an extremely low probability of being transferred to the genitals. Assuming this is correct, I'd tell her to let him know, if only because it's weird for her to hide it and could cause a bigger freak out down the line if she keeps hiding it. Apparently this is NOT true. Personally, I don't care so much about herpes. While it is permanent, it always seemed to me the worst sympt…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/16 02:14 PM
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I think men can have (good) sex without developing emotional attachment, particularly if the woman in question is not his sole dispenser of orgasms. That said, I strongly believe in keeping your word, so if I told a woman we were exclusive, we'd be exclusive.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 02:56 PM
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Twice a day. With maybe an after lunch BJ when it's an especially stressful day at work.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 05:28 AM
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Here I think there's a greater variety of people, but I picture the guys on TBP as Pajama Boy from the Obamacare ads. I think the Blue guys here are generally younger (as is all of reddit), and while their are probably a handful of good looking guys/ "naturals", I assume most hover in the 5-7 range. I also picture most of you as left of center, and relatively non muscular.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 02:22 AM
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Legs: Keep those smooth. Armpits: Smooth is optimum, but as long as it isn't prominent. Crotch: I shouldn't need a weed whacker to go down on her. At least some maintenance is strongly preferred.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/16 05:38 PM
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I was thinking dating a month.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/16 03:01 PM
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However, that same kind of guy is also the kind who tends to be all right with waiting at least a few dates before having sex. This is the part of this line of reasoning that deserves an asterisk. If a girl's MO is to wait a while until she feels a real connection with the guy "read: commitment by the guy", then I'd have no problem waiting provided she was a. Worth it and b. Was demonstrating sufficient attraction in other ways. But if I know her standard procedure thus far has included ONS, and…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/16 02:58 PM
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The reverse of saying I love you too soon is having sex too soon because otherwise the man is compelled to spent more time with you, especially under the influence of his unrealized lust, and is more likely to forge a connection. This argument may be worthy of it's own thread, but I've always found this claim dubious. The type of guy who is using a woman for just sex won't wait around, and the type of guy who wants to date her won't just run off if she f#cks him on the first date rather than mak…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/16 05:43 AM
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In some cases, this would be a fair and valid observation. The difference is a lot of men have been burned by displaying commitment/ emotional behavior too early or too strongly. Coming on too strong is a common mistake most young men make that routinely leads to relationship failure. It is rare for a relationship to fail because a woman is too sexual with her partner. Plenty of relationships have failed because the guy says "I love you" too early, I'm yet to hear of a relationship that fails be…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/16 10:26 PM
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If she's happy being single until she finds the right one, then no, she doesn't need to adjust her standards no matter how high they are. If you're turning to the internet for your love life, you're at that point. It might be but she has a right to ask for what she wants... This is such a stupid argument. Blues always retreat to the "she has a right" motte when pushed on poor behavior. Yes, she has a right to say whatever and behave however she wants. That said, she does not have a right to be f…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/16 08:11 PM
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If a reasonably attractive woman can't find a man in a large urban city without going online, she probably needs to adjust her standards. I'm going to assume this is a rare honest profile and that her idea of 'curvy' is more Kat Dennings/ Christina Hendricks, and not Rebel Wilson/ Melissa McCarthy, thus sparing us all my tirade on how fat girls have ruined the term curvy for everyone. To me, the brutal honesty here comes off as entitlement. Obviously we all want our S/O to be hot and rich, but o…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/16 05:24 PM
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I think the difference is how high the creep bar is set for attractive guys vs. normal guys. It's not that a girl won't be creeped out by a good looking guy doing his best Hannibal Lecter impression, it's that an average guy can be treated as equally creepy for such transgressions as speaking to her, or smiling.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/16 03:31 PM
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It's in correlation to each other. If i'm in law school and she's working FT supporting us, I'd expect to bear the vast brunt of the housework. If she wants to quit her job and my income is the only one for the household, I'd expect her to handle housework. If we both work FT but I make $120,000 and she makes $40,000, I'd expect her to handle about 75% of the day to day chores.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/16 03:15 PM
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So by your logic, unless you belong to a celibate religious order, your putting p*ssy on a pedestal. Almost all guy like sex, want to have sex, and are willing to expend significant resources (tangible or otherwise) to get sex. TRP helps guys realize that women aren't inherently better than men through the magic of having a vagina.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/16 03:10 PM
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Sophomore Alpha-bros: They've been reading TRP for 1-3 months, and start telling RPS he's being a beta, or tell me I don't understand DREAD. Some of the Blues are solid debaters and thinkers. They haven't changed my mind, but they force me to distill my concepts and make my arguments more polished.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/16 08:45 PM
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I get it. Being tired after a long day of dealing with people and not wanting to deal with more people, and then others just need to keep being in your space. It's annoying, I wholeheartedly agree. I'm not saying don't reject guys, i'm not even saying you have to go out of your way to be nice/gentle about it (I actually think that can hurt more than help). What I'm saying is I don't understand why a certain subset of women makes the choice to actively make the interaction a bad experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/16 08:01 PM
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Most aren't. Some are. The thing is the one's that are stick with you for a bit, and since the human mind is really good at taking something that makes you nervous and imagining the worst possible outcome, the bad ones tend to have an outsized impact on men. If we want to get into the realm of shoulds, I don't think it takes a lot of extra effort to say some version of "Flattered, but not interested." If he doesn't take the hint, then by all means follow up however you want, but I never understo…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/16 06:14 PM
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As I've discussed in a previous thread, I actually don't believe in free will. That said, I believe I am an individual consciousness that still perceives information, including pleasure and pain. As such, I don't see how non belief in free will would necessitate a change from RP thought.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/16 02:33 PM
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I respect people for who they are, man or woman. I'd argue I like women more than most BP guys. This is because I like women for what they are, not what I want them to be. I don't get disappointed when the women in my life don't think or act like men, because I don't expect it from them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/16 08:16 PM
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I'm putting my money on Mark Cuban.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/16 06:18 PM
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Sounds like you'd get the most benefit out of /r/RedPillWomen
/r/askTRP19/10/16 01:56 PM
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Porn is like any other pastime, as long as it doesn't negatively impact your real life, it's mostly fine. How did you get into porn? Because 12 year old boys don't have many other sexual outlets. Why do you like it? Instant gratification. Is there any no-go kind of porn? How come? Anything not made by consenting adults. Getting into turn ons and offs would take too long. I'd say my porn choices generally reflect some sexual variety I don't have in real life (ie, I live in an area that's 94% whit…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/16 05:17 AM
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It'd be considered as a factor in deciding whether to upgrade the relationship. (Casual -> STR -> LTR -> Live in -> Kids/Marriage) Would a higher n than I had previously supposed be a deal-breaker in itself? No, but other qualities would have to be that much stronger to cancel that out, and high n seems to correlate with some other negative qualities. Outright lying about n count would be qualified as a deal-breaker.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/16 09:09 PM
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I've never been asked about my N-count by any of the guys I've been with, whether my relationship with them is an LTR or casual. I'd almost never ask outright, if I were looking for an answer. In strong part because I wouldn't expect an honest answer. Rather, n-count is something that is generally sussed out over time. If i'm asking outright, it's simply to test her reaction.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/16 08:39 PM
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or that these men make up that women with high n-counts are x number of other horrible things totally unrelated to their n-count, Well, I mean, they ARE starting out of the gate being dishonest about something the guy may or may not consider important, so... ...i'd assume it's either because they are ashamed of it, or for the same reasons RPers claim to keep their mouths shut in public: because even if you don't think it's a problem, other people do and that affects you. I agree with this. But w…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/16 02:10 PM
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That I would agree with. Men in particular are adept at ignoring red flags when the girl is hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 07:42 PM
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Giving looks too much weight in assessing women. If he is unattractive this narrows his options to the point where they are statistically negligible... It always confuses me when women say that. I can't alter who or what I consider attractive. and I kind of doubt women can either. Believe me, If I could pull a "Shallow Hal" and make it so what really gets my engine revving is an obese girl or a girl with unfortunate features, I'd do it. But I can't control being attracted to good looking women a…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 07:09 PM
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The only time I ever made a comment like that re: Maggie Gylenhaal was when she replaced Katie Holmes in Batman Begins. It's not that I find her unattractive, just that she's a tick less attractive than a lot of the other women in her hollywood niche. I generally find that when it comes to spoken standards vs. actual standards, men talk big but have a fairly low bar, whereas women who "just want a nice guy" will reject a guy for 1000s of little reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 06:34 PM
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Men: Chasing "the one" Being complacent in self improvement Putting p*ssy on the pedestal Women: Trying to "change him" Having children too young/ with unfit fathers. Not putting effort into relationships with "good" guys/ making "good" guys jump through more hoops for less reward than "bad boys".
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 05:22 PM
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Believe it or not, the first few girls I dated in college were self described feminists. I wasn't the TRP Darth Vader I am now, but my political views were distinctly right wing, and my social views were similar to my current views. It worked fairly well because in both major instances the girl liked debate almost as much as I do, and because they were both very much theoretical feminists as opposed to applied.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 04:06 PM
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Does having standards really exclude one from being an incel? No. That's a fairly extreme definition of incel used by people who don't believe incels exist. If you can't get sex with a woman you'd find reasonably attractive, that makes you an incel.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 03:59 PM
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Even so. All communication is about getting to the big game with very little advice about how to play well once you get there. So once there, people basically revert to "If it feels good to us, it probably feels good to them."
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 03:37 PM
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There is a distinct lack of honest communication on the subject. PS: In fairness to men, a lot of women are not great at sex either, male genitalia is just operated much more simply.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 02:27 PM
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The places where I disagree is that when it comes to looks, the red pill focuses way too much on lifting which is only one portion of good looks and I would say not the most important. We focus on the improvable portion of physical attractiveness. Unfortunately, there's no way to upgrade your genetics to be taller, or have a movie star tan, but a good physique is an attainable goal that raises your SMV. Same with a good haircut, decent fitting clothes, and optimum facial hair.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 02:12 PM
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Points for the Nassim Taleb reference.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 05:31 AM
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My husband wasn't/isn't happy about it, but frankly, I don't care. Maybe your simplifying it for brevity, but it sounds like you're using his lack of eloquence as an excuse to dismiss his feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 08:23 PM
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At that point they aren't presumed to be his legally, anyway. In America, they absolutely still are/can be.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 08:04 PM
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This doesn't sound particularly good/healthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 07:50 PM
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Because they're hot, probably. Or at least the hottest they can get.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 05:54 PM
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I'm not sure where you're from, but where I live (Texas USA) most women don't change their names when they get married. It's not a "feminist" thing, it's just an outdated practice. That is interesting. I'm in New England and all the recently married couples I know the wife took her husbands last name.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 05:20 PM
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No. She's confusing "It'd be nice" with "It'll happen". I know instances where it has happened, but I don't think anyone was demanding it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 03:08 PM
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Don't know if you've considered this avenue, but my mother changed her maiden name to her middle name when she got married, as a way of honoring her father. So instead of C. Julius, she became C. Julius Scaevolus.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 03:02 PM
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but the idea that you guys think women are going to change names for their boyfriend with no marriage is literally hilarious to me Is it literally hilarious because I didn't say that? Is the fact that I stated multiple times that while I'd find it ideal, I'd complete understand and accept her keeping her last name as part of the whole 'not-getting-legally-married' deal what makes the hilarity so literal to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 02:59 PM
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For my part, I'd be okay with my 'wife' not taking my last name if and only if it was a non-legal marriage. Ideally, I'd want her to change her last name, but fair's fair. However, any children I have will have my last name if I have absolutely any influence over the matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 02:45 PM
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I agree with vetting potential partners for compatibility, but telling a woman to figure out all of this in one date seems absurd, especially since 1st dates are by definition casual and low key. If a woman started rapid firing these questions at me, or jumping from marriage to rape to female authors, I think my cuckoo alarm would go off and I'd be done with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 02:11 PM
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Flattered? Sure. Would I encourage her? No. Would I consider it sexual assault for her to try to kiss me? No.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 07:30 PM
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Well, I imagine. At least I would.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 04:21 PM
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Historical reference here. I've also always kind of liked the duality of the latin word Scaevola, which, in different contexts can mean either 'evil' or 'left handed'. I consider that a fitting metaphor for the way I'm seen on Reddit, some people think I'm an evil misogynist, but really I just see the world a little differently, a little left handed.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 02:18 PM
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From what I've seen of gay relationships, there still is very much a 'guy' and a 'girl'. The 'guy' still has to fill that role, albeit with slightly different rules.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 02:03 PM
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Worth pointing out that we have government programs which already take my money, and the money of others to help Becky (I assume in this scenario her name is Becky). So, assuming I'm correct that this is a clunky metaphor for incels who complain "Why don't women just f#ck me hurr durr" Is that a solution you'd be good with? Publicly run and subsidized brothels? PS: Ignoring post tag because I don't think you'll get the quality of discussion you want from just incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 01:56 PM
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Don't women eventually run out of fucks to give? I appreciate you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 01:46 PM
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Do you honestly think the way he stated it it was implied that he was asking first? I read it as he sees a pretty girl he gives her a kiss on the cheek. I think he was boastfully lying to impress his buddy and make himself look powerful. I highly doubt he actually did the things he talked about doing. The "grab her by the p*ssy" thing sounded like machismo jesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/16 03:55 PM
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He explicitly states that women are OKAY with it when you're a high-value man. This is the part I can't believe people don't get. I mean hell, I know some pretty ugly f#ckers that get laid just because they're bouncers at a local nightclub. Women will obviously f#ck men because those men have status.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/16 02:26 PM
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Groups of women can be intimidating when you're starting out, but are generally more social, and have a more conducive 'vibe' to being hit on, once you figure out how to get past the fear factor. Singles are easier and less scary to open, but my experience is they'll be extremely shielded unless she's there for the express purpose of f#cking tonight. I'd say the sweet spot is 2 or 3 women, depending on your approach and what everyone else is doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/16 08:50 PM
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I suspect most BPers would argue that sexual poverty isn't as detrimental or even lethal as economic poverty.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/16 03:46 PM
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Rejection's a real bitcharoni there, sport. There isn't really a good way to feel from "I understand that you find me attractive and want to be in/around me. I however do not find you attractive and therefore do not want you in/around me." It's a sucky situation, plain and simple. As such, a minority of guys will try to assuage their bruised egos and hurt feelings by lashing out. It's similar to how every guy who has ever dumped a woman is an a$$hole.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/16 03:32 PM
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From what I've seen, most of the time, these persistent (not necessarily your case) guys come from situations where the girl doesn't give a flat "no". Rather, they give an answer which can be interpreted as "Not right now" or "Try harder", particularly by an infatuated guy whose brain is trying to avoid rejection. The other instance (which actually can be effective when done right) is what I call 'persistent salesmanship'. You'd usually use this on someone within your group that at least has an …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/16 02:14 PM
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She's meeting and dating multiple men - she's playing the numbers game. This is true, I'll give you that point. But I think if we use a definition of slut that isn't ultra conservative, her numbers advantage is outweighed by her slut penalty. For instance, I don't think a 22 year old woman who has slept with 35 men and 'dated' 40 has a much better numbers game than a 22 year old woman who has slept with 10 and dated 30. That's why the smart sluts sleep around outside of their friend group. Reaso…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/16 09:31 PM
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Most people can find someone willing to marry them. The better questions to ask are; Can a slut land a quality man as easily as if she were less promiscuous? Are former sluts as happy in monogamous marriages as non sluts? Are the husbands of former sluts as happy as the husbands of non sluts? I can say that for me, as well as my friends and most men I've observed, there seems to be slut penalty in terms of evaluating women for LTRs. For every guy I know that a woman has slept with, I'm just a bi…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/16 09:13 PM
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"...Being a woman and consciously choosing to vote for this [wo]man, is choosing to vote against your gender. It's choosing to let this sexist bully get away with discrimination..." Weird, it works with Hillary too.
/r/TheRedPill06/10/16 04:36 PM
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Just to be clear, are we talking the ability to do double anal while simultaneously cooking a 3 course meal, or consecutively? You seriously underplay women's wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/16 03:22 PM
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From a TRP perspective, Chad is a stand-in for the reality that there will always be someone more attractive than you. There is always someone taller or more defined or richer or who has a bigger dick, he is essentially a placeholder to represent a theoretical '10' in SMV. As such, he is a reminder to keep working on the non tangible aspects of oneself, like 'frame' and outcome independence.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/16 01:38 PM
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Any counter normative group will necessarily attract those who lose under the existing norm. That said, I can tell you on a moderator level that your assumptions are untrue. The only one that applies to me is being "technically" 3rd generation (on my father's side), but I think you underestimate how Americanized people become after the 2nd generation. (For example, President Obama is 1st generation in the same way i'm 3rd.)
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/16 03:48 PM
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If the man doesn't define the relationship with a sexual component early on, being friends first is deadly to potential intimate relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/16 03:17 PM
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I think the issue stems from the fact that it is repeated again, and again...and yet again when it's something women are already well aware of. So what's you're opinion of "Teach men not to rape" thought processes?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/16 02:29 PM
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Women hit the wall at 30 and become uglier than sin: Now, it's obvious that aging does decrease attractiveness. However, the way in which the wall is discussed implies there is a massive drop off at 30, or even 28, where women are undesirable anymore. This is obviously not true, and it stems from the just belief that women whom do bad or wrong by riding the CC will be punished for it via the wall. This is a BP misinterpretation of the wall. All 'The Wall' is is the concept that, controlling for …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/16 02:05 PM
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I'd say it has more to do with applying an existing power disparity.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/16 09:30 PM
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So dominance for you is strictly physical, not psychological? As far as sex goes, I think psychological dominance generally requires either at least the possibility of physical domination, or some preexisting relationship where the dominance is already established.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/16 09:15 PM
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Mine was a few months where I'd just nuke any woman I thought was trying to sh*t test me. Then I moved onto a phase I'd term 'practical misogynytm' where I was calibrated enough to get laid, but had a hairpin trigger for cutting individual women off. That lasted about 6 months, and isn't truly anger phase, but not near acceptance yet. Do you still have residual anger/bitterness left over, and if so, how do you feel it affects your day to day interactions with women? Have you tried to shake it? I…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/16 08:59 PM
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Trump doesn't get away with sh*t because he's a man, Trump gets away with it because he's Trump. We wouldn't accept his antics/history from Jeb, Rubio, Paul, or Cruz. On the other hand, If a candidate made disparaging comments about men's appearance, we wouldn't/don't care. I also think media is nicer to Hillary because she's a woman, and if they go after her like they would a man they're afraid to come across as sexist.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/16 08:47 PM
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Or do you not consider that a female dominant position? I'd consider that female aggressive, not dominant. Tbh, because of the size/strength difference between me and most women, I can't think of a position I would consider dominant for her that doesn't involve bondage. Maybe face sitting? But even then I'm mostly in control.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/16 08:21 PM
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Boredom. Advertising. Putting my understanding of certain components of the world through any anti-fragility test.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/16 05:34 PM
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When the Chinese invade with their drones that hover at 5'10" with spinning razor blades, then we will have our vengeance!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/16 04:28 PM
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You're overweight and/or don't work out. You don't have a job, and are in no hurry to find one. Always found these odd. It's possible to be working towards a goal but still unsuccessful/not yet successful in it. You don't attempt to talk to women within your looks range. You can't dictate attraction if a guy is a 4 but only women 6+ are attractive enough to get him sexually interested, then he's an incel if he can't get a 6+.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/16 07:57 PM
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When looking for ONS, most red pill women won't be looking for ONS because many of them want LTR or marriage. So red pill men will have to look for someone else. You're confusing 'want' with 'will do for now'. The woman I want to end up with would be a cross between Jackie O and Lady Macbeth. That woman is hard to find in the world, and even evil misogynists get lonely occasionally, so in the meantime I work with what I've got.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/16 06:22 PM
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A 10 is a 9 in your particular niche (i.e, black, latin, ginger, goth, rocker, nerdy, etc). A universal 10 may not exist, but a girlcan be realized widely as a possible 10.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/16 07:01 AM
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I've seen it. Guy's in shape, but nothing particularly special. Pretty regularly sleeps with 8+s in the 20-25 range.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 07:14 PM
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Agnostic/Deist. I think it's probable, but un-provable that there is some 'force' that created the circumstances/'rules' of the universe. But I don't think it has a personal interest in any of us, or even Earth, for that matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 04:53 PM
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I take anything written on anonymous website with a grain of salt. That said, I've had some highly improbable nights in my life, so who am I to really say.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 02:55 PM
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I'm sure that many women that date men have also gone through this transformation beyond passivity, Why? This does not follow from what you've said. Since women are so heavily pursued, what incentive do they have to develop an active strategy? For the vast majority, they won't. Some women will drop strong hints and consider themselves pursuers. They aren't. It's more active than nothing, but dropping bait still relies on an active party to take that bait, no matter how alluring/strong the bait i…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 02:50 PM
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I like to troll neggers (unfortunate habit). You can't use that word!!! That's our word!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 05:07 AM
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Both are 50+
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 05:00 AM
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No. My hectic thoughts are too raw, too convoluted, and too sensory, I don't really see people being comfortable reading them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/16 08:42 PM
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I'd be hesitant to have it used on me. My thought process is too busy and 'gray' for others to have access to it before I've concentrated and filtered it. If it was just emotions, I'd be okay with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/16 03:52 PM
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Weight matters way more for women. Eh. I'd say it comes down to the degree of overweight. A chubby girl has more success than a chubby guy, as long as she maintains a feminine frame. Most guys will look past a spare tire if the boobs and ass are big enough. A chubby fat guy can be funny, rich and charming and have success, but a chubby fat woman is basically worthless because personality matters a lot less and men care way more about looks. I'd say they can both get something, but not the whole …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/16 02:57 PM
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In slight defense of guys, most of whom I suspect have violated these, I want to provide some context on a couple of points. 3)Knowing things about you that he shouldn't have known and getting your phone number and address from a third person. This is a tricky one in the social media era, because many people think nothing of putting everything about them and everything they do on Facebook, but we don't yet have a solid social convention for whether social media posts are fair use in real life. L…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/16 02:39 PM
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14 year olds are not women. Once you reach the age of adulthood/ alcohol consumption, women don't lie upward.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/16 02:39 PM
1

The secret to good winging is picking up the slack in a given interaction.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/16 02:35 PM
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Women are great for passive social proof, but I haven't met a single woman that was good at active winging. They just don't have the experience with approaching to understand mechanically what their role is.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/16 02:33 PM
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If you've never worked in nightlife, you'd be surprised how many people get black out or brown out drunk. From personal experience/observation, women seem to make up a large majority of folks who do that, as well as a majority of the ones who do it regularly. However, that is irrelevant to the fact that people who get black out drunk are behaving irresponsibly and not performing their due diligence. Does it mean they deserve to get raped? Obviously not. Does it make raping them less of a crime? …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/16 02:03 PM
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Agreed. That said, one can take precautions to ensure they continue to 'get lucky'. Not getting black out drunk is a reasonable precaution. Do rapes sometimes happen in instances where the woman took every precaution? Sadly, yes. Does that mean they shouldn't play a part in their own defense? No.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/16 01:48 PM
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1st wave feminism generally got on ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/16 04:18 PM
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unless you consider the act of drinking while female to be innately irresponsible. I consider getting black out drunk irresponsible.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/16 03:57 PM
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Speaking of strawmen! 🎃 I prefer to think of it as creative license. Can they really not control their sex drive to that extent? No, some can't. And when we as a society find those men, there lack of self control is generally punished, as it well should be. That doesn't mean that women should feel justified in making themselves easy prey for bad people. If anything, the understanding that there are such men in the world should cause women to be more cautious.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/16 03:33 PM
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You might as well say "women shouldn't go out and get drunk at bars because rapists can't help themselves" because that's really what all this moralizing boils down to. Look at that, you're just in time for fall. 99.99% of the times I've gone out drinking, I manage to not get black out drunk. Most nights, I even maintain my ability to drive. On the rare occasion I know i'm likely to exceed my limit, I surround myself with friends, at least one of whom has the express task of drunk wrangler and m…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/16 03:08 PM
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From a legal perspective, they are. But just like how we teach children to look both ways before crossing the street to avoid being hit by a car, despite it being legally the driver's fault if said collision occurs, in our society we recognize that some people won't do what they're supposed to and we should take reasonable steps to protect ourselves. Not getting black-out drunk at night in a public place seems a reasonable step to protect yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/16 02:19 PM
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We go out in groups, use the toilet in groups, catch PT and taxis on groups and have one person act as "des" (designated driver/group mum) to make sure the rest of us get home safely. We have check in arrangements with friends who leave with a man, watch each other's drinks and bags, and only accept a drink that we've seen poured or opened. We carry personal alarms, capsicum spray and tampons with a drawing pin in the end. And yet, we still get raped, even when we take all these precautions. The…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/16 02:01 PM
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People would want alimony/more child custody and therefore come up with baloney reasons to put the other person at fault. Which is no worse than our current system. We also need steeper penalties for false allegations/testimony.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 01:31 PM
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Then that would be an At-Fault divorce. At Fault should still exist, but people shouldn't need to prove fault for every divorce. The exception being marriages which produce children. Those should require an At Fault divorce to break up prior to a the youngest child's 18th birthday
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/16 07:50 PM
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I'd keep a No Fault system available, but alimony cannot be awarded to the initiating party. Child custody should have a presumed even split as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/16 05:36 PM
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I've been at varying levels of overweight in my life, from chubby to fatty, to strong-fat, to "bear mode". From what I've experienced, my body type is most attractive to tiny girls and heavier girls. My guess is that tiny girls like the feeling of security and bigger girls like feeling small next to a man. Additionally, women who are into rough play enjoy the body type if you have the personality to go with it. As for my preference, it's a broad range. I don't have a set weight limit, as long as…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/16 03:28 PM
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White, several population centers North of Boston.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/16 05:36 PM
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How do you account for intuition, feeling, cunning, and creativity? All terms for how the brain processes stimuli. Do you think things are deterministic? Maybe? Human actions and interactions are given the factors they experience, but I'm not well versed enough in high level science to conclude whether last nights rain storm or a falling tree branch were preordained in the big bang.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/16 05:06 PM
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The only obligations either party have are honesty and understanding basic social context. That means if you started out 'seeing' a guy and decided you only want him as a platonic friend, you let him know. It also means recognizing that, while no one is obligated to have sex with anyone, the polite thing to do is be forthright about your feelings and thought process, if only to keep him from feeling you're disinterested.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/16 02:40 PM
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It's like getting a feeling that someone is gay, or smart, or a douche-bag. You get a 'vibe', and as you learn things about them, your suspicion becomes more or less likely. There are always some that slip below the radar, or false flags, but general speaking, if she looks like a slut,sounds like a slut, and acts like a slut, she's a slut.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/16 02:06 PM
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Same reason it's the employers responsibility to pay for mommy and me time for the new mother/baby. Which is to say, it isn't really.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/16 02:00 PM
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Always sounded to me like an old dime store romance novel term for cum.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/16 01:48 PM
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I think we're 'programmed' to react a certain way to any given stimuli or situation given our biology, experiences, values, etc. This would mean everything a person says and does is the result of a person's brain processing hundreds of thousands of (If X, then Y) logic equations.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/16 08:31 PM
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Men of PPD, are you blue, red, or purple, and do you believe that some things are good, some things are evil? On a cosmic scale? No. Humans? I don't think we're inherently good OR evil. I think most people want desperately to feel they are good, and as long as they keep trying, they're typically 'good'. But I also think people are really good at constantly redefining their morality so they're always the good guys. If so, how would you describe your moral or ethical beliefs? Weighted utilitariani…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/16 07:31 PM
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Social/"evolutionary": For most of human history, (until the 60s or 70s) the only way a man could be absolute sure he was the father of his wife's children was to be the only man she had been with in the past year. Now that we have DNA testing, that is changing, but the norm has existed for centuries. Cultural: We still have a strong current in our culture that sex is meant to be private and 'special'. This attitude is adapting, but it's deeply ingrained. Personal (Her): I know quite a few high …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/16 07:06 PM
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The actor is responsible for the action, not the writer he misinterpreted. That's a cop out for the weak and the stupid. Every piece of writing has it's idiots and it's mis-interpreters, that isn't the fault of the author.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/16 03:22 PM
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I'm all for coke and hookers, but the situation is pretty bad when you have to break several state and federal laws to find some relief.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/16 02:45 PM
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In my experience, most women will agree with every TRP point I make, as long as we're talking about other women. If we're discussing them, or women in the abstract, they'll agree with most of what you say, as long as you use the right tone and terms.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/16 02:35 PM
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Your boss seems like kind of a sh*thead to be quite frank. Shut the ex and her family/friends out completely. Never speak to them again. Tell the boss you've done this. If that isn't good enough for him, programming is a fairly strong job market.
/r/askTRP12/09/16 05:55 PM
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I can't see it happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/16 05:02 PM
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Both sides clearly have a caricature of each other. Most TRP folks I've met are neither frat bros nor do they have trench coats or neckbeards.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/16 07:45 PM
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The decent thing to do is make her lack of interest or availability known, then if he wants to buy a drink just to be friendly, or try his luck anyways, that's not on her. Then again, nothing about our dating culture is decent.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/16 02:02 PM
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People buy each other drinks to be friendly. That's normal. That's how conversations in bars often start. The difference is one of scale. I go out a couple nights a week. I'd say about once every month, a random person will offer to buy me a drink. As a guy, one a month is a lot. I'm pretty well known in the area, and the drinks are usually to curry favor or by way of an apology. While working, I've seen many girls who don't pay for drinks ever. Still many more will buy their first, then guys wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/16 01:50 PM
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A certain amount of calibration will always be necessary in social interactions, but somewhat cocky and subtly sexual is a stronger starting point than timid and platonic. What persona do you think TRP uses? You seem to straw man a bit but not give an actual definition.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/16 01:41 PM
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Pussypass more involves escaping consequences for bad/illegal behaviors. I can't know for sure if you derived benefit because you're a woman, I'd have to know if he'd do the same for a guy. If you did benefit from your gender, I don't think you're inherently wrong to do so, but you would be foolish not to acknowledge that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/16 01:35 PM
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I think you'd see a greater range. But in fairness I don't know that a cross section of any sub in reddit would yield spectacular results, especially not a place like TBP.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/16 05:41 PM
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Why should he apologize for his lack of interest? "Sorry" was the key word there. You can't actually mean that. And again, none of this makes him not douchey, just pointing out he's probably never been in that situation and is therefore ill equipped to handle it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/16 05:32 PM
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Fair. But unfortunately it's the most effective benchmark we have for emotional IQ in an online group of anonymous people.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/16 05:28 PM
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It was posted to PPD. I also sent it to a few RP folks and they took the test as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/16 05:27 PM
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Removed. Not a question.
/r/askTRP07/09/16 03:03 PM
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Can I just point out how funny it is that redpillers constantly circlejerk about women having no sense of agency or responsibility, then proceed to make posts like yours? Ok. Seemingly valid point. You may point out your mirth. Except if a guy is persistent and a women yells "FUCK OFF!" she has the surrounding people on her side, if a man did the same, he wouldn't. There are numerous examples that in an altercation, observers get involved on the woman's behalf no matter who is at fault. "Sorry I…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/16 02:58 PM
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A while back someone posted an emotional IQ test here. I took it and got one of the higher scores. I sent it to a few other TRP mods and they also did very well. As I recall, there was no significant difference between RP and BP folks in terms of emotional IQ. TRP has gained in success and popularity year after year because so many men are not happy, and mainstream culture isn't interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/16 02:52 PM
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I know a guy like this. He's an 8 physically, but he's functionally retarded. He can normally shut up long enough for a drunk girl to bring him home, but about 5 minutes of conversation with the guy drys most women right up. He's also apparently super clingy.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/16 02:29 PM
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in sex positive circles Do you mean kink groups or sex clubs? No judgement, but I've literally never seen a woman come on that strong. I've seen 1 or 2 guys who do that, and even then they're very good looking and approach in clubs/bars.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/16 02:21 PM
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How often have we heard about a gender inverted scenario like this and blue folk will contort themselves like cirque de solei to claim it's innocent. If this happened to a guy friend of mine I would tell him to drop her immediately. Now i'm going to do something that will make me super popular with blues, and hold men and women to a different standard. She definitely should have a conversation here, and it is potentially relationship ending, but there are a few mitigating factors here that keeps…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/16 02:19 PM
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Again, doesn't answer the question. WHY should men care?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/16 06:01 AM
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'Date' implies 'romantic', which itself implies the possibility of sex. It makes sense if by 'sex is off the table' you mean ever. You don't have to full stop the second you decide, but you should find a way to gracefully stop wasting everyone's time and money within the next half hour. But what if I really like the guy as a friend and want to spend time with him, just not have sex? -Hypothetical BP chick response If that's the case, end the date, reach out in the next couple days, tell him you …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/16 03:14 PM
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Not disagreeing with you, but that doesn't answer OPs question.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/16 02:50 PM
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That's part of it. The other components are selectivity and drive. Any woman 6+ can get casual sex with a 80% of single men fairly easily. The male sex drive is also much stronger and more persistent. In short, men have a greater demand for sex as individuals, and the barrier for entry into the SMP is higher.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/16 02:49 PM
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The relative physical strength of an average man. It worries me when I hear a girl say "I do cardio kickboxing 3 days a week. I can handle myself" It's great to have some self defense training, but it means very little when someone twice your size lifts you up or bear hugs you. I think some today get to caught up in 'guurl power', which gives women a false sense of security to go into dangerous situations they shouldn't. Bonus Answer because I do what I want: Having to turn down a hot and persis…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/16 04:18 PM
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Having a SAHM Poor family today will create less traditional women FTFY.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/16 05:21 PM
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Not typically.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/16 03:54 PM
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What are you trying to prove? Now I think a lot of women are attracted to men who are more dependant and responsible, but I don't think this is how a lot of alphas act. A lot of men with a carefree and "irresponsible" behavior seem to get a lot of women especially in their 20s You've immediately disagreed with yourself. I actually think TRPillers get something wrong. Shocking./s Some women do marry alphas, but a lot of these alphas never really mature or accept responsibility. A lot of these gam…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/16 02:01 PM
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A fight and an assault are treated differently. A fight is termed 'mutual combat',which occurs when two individuals intentionally and consensually engage mutually in a fair fight. An assault is forcing physical violence on someone. If you square up 1 on 1 outside a bar and get your ass beat, it isn't assault. Sort of like how if you have consensual sex and decide the next day it wasn't good/the guys a douche, it isn't rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/16 04:35 PM
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Originally, TRP split off from Seduction because of the tone policing and general neutering seduction underwent to appease SJW types. Now I'd say we've developed a more cohesive philosophy than seduction has or attempts to have.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/16 09:20 PM
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I agree in part with your reasoning, I just want to poke at the concept. the fact that he had to pay for sex is an indication of a lack of attractiveness on his part. What if this is demonstrably not the case? If a woman is already attracted to/ sleeping with a guy, isn't that proof he is attractive enough to not have to pay for it? What about famous whore mongers?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/16 04:00 PM
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One thing I was recently surprised to find out women don't understand is how impersonal male sex drive is. In terms of sexual attraction, it really doesn't matter to us if a woman is a friend, enemy, acquaintance, coworker, saint, or scum of the earth. Also, men are generally adaptive and reactionary, especially in dating. We will alter our behavior and turn on a dime if it improves our chances. So the trick is to make sure you reward the traits you want to see in men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/16 03:59 PM
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For men, sex is like pizza. Even when it's bad, it's still decent and even when I'm not in the mood for pizza, if you put a pie in front of me, I'll have a slice or two. Women seem to view sex more like sushi. You can't enjoy bad sushi like you can enjoy bad pizza, it has to be good sushi to be enjoyed. Also, even with the best sushi in the world, sometimes you just aren't in the mood for it. Men like sex more in the sense that we;re usually down to have sex, the quality of partner/sex matters t…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/16 02:25 PM
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If I suspend my disbelief in the idea, I'd choose 'true love' any day. You'd be a fool not to. Bonus Answer: Not that much really. In the real world, there's no such thing as unconditional, everlasting, romantic love, and good sex can create a reasonable facsimile for the short term, so in the real world I'd rather the steady stream of fresh, exciting lust than the dogged pursuit of the nonexistent. Counter question: How do you define a 'genuinely romantic' relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/16 06:29 PM
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Context. When I say AWALT, I mean all women have the traits that lead to this conclusion in some circumstances. (i.e, All women have the capacity for infidelity if you beta down and some new guy gives her the tingles) YesAllMen when I've seen it used seems to accuse all men of a direct, usually violent, action. Put more simply, AWALT says all women could be cheaters, whereas it seems #YesAllMen says all men are rapists.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/16 05:49 PM
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Understanding a person's nature is not absolving them for their choices/actions. But it isn't healthy or worthwhile for you to spend time angry/upset over that nature. It's also would be foolish of you to deny that nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/16 03:25 PM
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Joint ambition A basic level of has-her-sh!t-together A sense of humor Intelligent, or at least curious Caring
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/16 01:51 PM
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Do you have screaming 3 year olds at you office? No, I chose a career path that doesn't involve screaming toddlers. My friend who works at a daycare, however, does deal with screaming toddlers as part of her job description. Not sure how this is relevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/16 07:30 PM
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Studies don't show that most people at full time jobs "work" 40 hours either though. Check when most facebook updates are made... The difference is with my downtime at the office, I'm still trapped at the office. A SAHP typically isn't forced to stay anywhere, and even if she is (due to small children), she has all the comforts and leisure of home. BTW, what time zone is everybody participating in this thread in? EST
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/16 07:02 PM
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The time investment needed to maintain/operate a 2-5 person home is less than the average 40 hour work week.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/16 06:07 PM
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Most men and women are guilty of letting the attraction/romance slip. Men need to keep the frame they went in with, adjusting it as necessary, but not giving it up or weakening it. Women need to not take their men for granted, and make an effort in their appearance. Ultimately, the question of, 'Why should I bring my A game if they aren't?', is responsible for a lot of unhappy marriages. Is it just as common for men to get to the point where they do not want sex with their wife? Not as common, b…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/16 02:24 PM
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I don't think he'd get less action then your average 72 year old man.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/16 02:22 PM
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http://www.suicidepreventionlifeline.org/ 1-800-273-8255
/r/askTRP16/08/16 08:31 PM

/u/Gavinok /u/Yo_Radical_One /u/Drok007
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/16 08:08 PM
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Public Displays of Affection. If a guy regularly exits the situation/ becomes visibly uncomfortable with mild to moderate PDA (think long hugs & short-mid kisses), that can be a sign. If he only exhibits these traits around one girl, that means he has feelings for her. (incel or not)
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/16 06:20 PM
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I mean, I'd hit it. I just don't consider her "OMG, she's like an 11.7/10!" hot, like a lot of guys seem to. She's a completely respectable ~8.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/16 05:35 PM
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For me, I'd say a good 50% of Emma Watson's attractiveness comes from playing a character elementary school Gaius had a nerdy-whatever-passes-for-a-crush-to-a-8-year-old on. As to your question, I'd say I have discrepancies, but no one comes to mind that everyone thinks is hot that I just don't. I think Taylor Swift gets a bit too much credit, and Cobie Smulders (Robin from HIMYM) hasn't aged well at all, but I can't think of any I consider actually unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/16 05:27 PM
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Generally, incels can be mostly normal guys. Some of the signs you can use to potentially ID one are; Extreme discomfort with PDA. Works overly hard to not break the 'touch barrier' accidentally. Chronic over-analysis of social interactions.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/16 03:57 PM
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You have a gift.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/16 03:49 PM
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you never said what you consider a "high N count". 5, 10, 15 ? Because it isn't really relevant to this discussion. The actual number varies depending on age and circumstance. I'd be glad to discuss it in detail with you in a thread about what constitutes a high N count, should you be inclined to create one.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/16 07:51 PM
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Except it's more than a feeling of "shame", If a man cries, he is treated as weak and suffers a social penalty. If a man responds physically to a women's physical attack, he is not only penalized socially, but legally and possibly economically as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/16 07:47 PM
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For the OP its possible she only made 1 or 2 porn movies Typically if someone is a 'porn star', the connotation is they've been in at least several movies. I like the knots some of you will tie yourselves in to assume a hypothetical porn actress is the shining exception. but i get the impression that anything over 0 is a "high N count" for some of you extreme RP posters. Cute. Not relevant though.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/16 05:22 PM
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The thing is you can't take one characteristic or trait and pretend that the secondary traits that come with it don't exist. Even giving as much benefit of the doubt as possible, I cannot reconcile how the traits I would want in a theoretical Mrs. S would be present in a porn star. At the very least, a porn star has a high N count. That alone is enough of a deal breaker for me. Do you dislike whores just for being whores, or do you dislike them because STD risk, because they are cheaters, becaus…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/16 04:21 PM
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No. She can't be what I consider a 'perfect partner' and still have a decision process that leads her to do porn. Nude modeling I might be okay with.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/16 03:32 PM
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No one actually believes that physical attractiveness doesn't matter at all(other than perhaps the pink haired hippopotomai of tumblr). It's a better description to say boys are taught that women value "inner beauty" over looks. This has the complicating quality of being true, beyond a certain level of physical attractiveness [i.e, most women will date a 6.5 with a solid personality over an 8 who is a wad, but a 4 is SoL no matter how great a guy he is]. Boys are also taught that women strongly …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/16 02:55 PM
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I disagree. I think after 6 months you can see a noticeable change in a person's personality. For some it's an even shorter amount of time. and have no reasonable expectation of having desirable sex in the next 6 months if circumstances remain constant. I think the second part is the most important. That is where the hopelessness starts.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/16 01:57 PM
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That is a very literal interpretation of incel. It'd be like saying; I can think of several reasons why people can't walk. They all break down to valid reasons that are all fixable with (sometimes large amounts) of research and money. No one is really ever paraplegic I think someone can be defined as an incel if they, not by their own direct choice, haven't had sex in the past 6 months, and have no reasonable expectation of having desirable sex in the next 6 months if circumstances remain consta…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/16 08:20 PM
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To give the GOP the Presidency and a near super majority?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/16 05:40 PM
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I'll probably vote for Trump, but wouldn't call myself a 'Trump person'. I supported another guy in the primaries and Trump was not one of my top 5 picks, but to my mind Hillary would be worse for the country than Trump could possibly be. As for the overlap, I'd say the main appeal from an RP perspective is Trump's refusal to play the SJW game of 'political correctness'. He's also an unabashed nationalist, which appeals to the 'conservative' element.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/16 03:47 PM
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In some instances it is justifiable. But never in anger and the end goal cannot be to hurt the child.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/16 06:06 PM
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Bisexual women aren't going after straight women as men. They do have better advice to offer than straight women, but it's shotgun hunting advice from a bowman. Similar "game", vastly different tools.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/16 03:47 PM
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There is no "official" TRP stance on it, but every Mod I've spoken to seems pretty against such a thing. My personal view is that one should never initiate physical violence. Physical force should be used defensively, and only to the extent necessary to ensure safety.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/16 02:35 PM
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If you're a 4 or less, you won't be attractive no matter how well dressed or styled you are. If you're an 8 or better you can probably get away with dressing a bit on the frumpy side and still get interest. But for the large majority of folks who fall in the 5-7 average, having your style on point yields great dividends.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/16 03:46 PM
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The trick isn't to spot all abusive or bad dudes a mile away, it's walking away from them when they exhibit these traits. If you stay with someone who consistently makes you feel like sh!t, at a certain point, you're an enabler. The next step is learning to identify correlating characteristics and funneling out people who have that abusive tendency earlier and earlier in the dating process until you stop dealing with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/16 02:27 PM
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You're just not at all willing to ask the question. Seeing a friend's girlfriend out at a club with a group that does not include her boyfriend but does include three other men at least one of whom she seems to be flirting with and who grabs her ass at the end of the night is suspicious. It does merit asking the question. I'm not condemning her, i'm saying it's questionable. You're the one who seems hell bent on making a ruling.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/16 06:12 PM
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What are you talking about 'bro'? I haven't deleted anything. Maybe it hurt your wittle feewings and you reported it? If so you won't be able to see it. I don't much care about internet randos 'calling out' anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/16 05:53 PM
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Why in front of the guy? That would sound real casual. /s You're right. Normal people hide away from there boyfriend to discuss being out at a club. /s OP has no proof of anything wrong. OP spied and jumped to conclusions saw her at a club with other guys. He's the one in the wrong here. How is he in the wrong? He isn't accusing her of anything, just saying that it seems suspicious.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/16 05:43 PM
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With the original statement? Of course it does. Being divorced from/ ignorant of the full consequences of ones actions is a big part of childishness.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/16 05:23 PM
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Next time you're all together, mention to her in passing (in front of guy) that you saw her at the club, you wanted to go say hi, but she seemed fairly engaged with the group she was with.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/16 04:54 PM
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Eh, I see people different places all the time. Mentioning it is just a vague conversation topic. Now if she lied to her bf or is cheating on him, then it might put her on the spot. But that's not really OPs fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/16 04:29 PM
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Next time you're all together, mention to her in passing (in front of guy) that you saw her at the club, you wanted to go say hi, but she seemed fairly engaged with the group she was with. Make a joke about how the other guy looked like he was trying to get "friendly".
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/16 04:05 PM
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get fit clean up dress sharp have good shoes good personality be sauve smell deliciously like vetiver Your understanding of the term 'average' is a tad off. If an average man becomes exceptional, he is by definition, no longer average.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/16 03:07 PM
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The average man could not get casual sex with a woman that passes the boner test.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/16 03:04 PM
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There are two different types of romantic love, the 'hit' and the 'burn'. The hit is the 'love at first sight' type. It's a chemical reaction in the brain not unlike a cocaine high. It lasts general from 18 mos-2 years and is involuntary. It's physiological, and has a strong correlation to lust. The 'burn' is the thing that keeps couples together through 50 years of life with multiple kids,bills, and life struggles. It builds off the 'hit', indeed it can't exist without it, but it's a much softe…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/16 02:55 PM
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All are true when phrased in a fair way that isn't either designed to make TRP look radical or the said out of anger/ shock value. i.e, All single mothers are scum have demonstrated poor judgement and are generally a more costly investment without a correlating return of value. You cannot have a female friend the same way you have male friends. Women are as children in there reduced consequences for their actions when compared to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/16 02:30 PM
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Basically.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/16 02:08 PM
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It doesn't preclude all friendship, but it puts certain hard limits on the friendship that don't exist with two platonic friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/16 08:37 PM
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Well, if you focus your attention on the senior people, the Mods, vanguards, and ECs. Bringing up the rest is a lot like saying a diet program doesn't work because the only people you see starting it are fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/16 02:07 PM
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RP currently holds that female friends are a "waste of time" and should be dumped. This is not true. TRP relationships are about value. We say that you shouldn't continue friendships with women (or men) that don't provide your life with additional value by their presence. We also acknowledge that male friendships and female friendships are different. They even hook you up with their friends sometimes. That's a common alleged benefit, but the vast majority of women I've known have difficulty shar…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/16 01:58 PM
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It appears that men assumed by 'ideal', the researchers meant, 'the man with the best chance of getting a woman into bed the same night he meets her'. In other words, men built the most physically attractive man. Women appear to have taken 'ideal' to mean, 'best life partner and father', and built a man with which to have stable, if not necessarily passionate or exciting, future. The lesson here is word choice matters when doing studies.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/16 02:59 PM
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You aren't claiming Vince McMahon has a dad-bod, are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/16 02:40 PM
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A couple issues with this I see right off the bat; 95% of women I've ever met are sh*t at anything involving pick up or winging. It isn't there fault really, but women have virtually no experience being the 'hunter', so they don't really know how to wing. Even if she legitimately values him as a friend and wants him to be happy, virtually every women I've met has a possessive/jealous streak when it comes to sharing the men in her life with other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/16 07:07 PM
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I'd actually agree with this in broad strokes, the question is how're guys supposed to get good if women aren't willing to put in the bare effort to explain to a guy how to be good. Sex and women are in the top 5 of every man's favorite subjects. If you share real info, men will lap that sh!t up. But unfortunately for everyone, sex is another area where men are meant to just figure it out. I think most women know the basic technique to suck a dick adequately. A lot of women don't understand much…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/16 05:32 PM
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There's an attractiveness bias at play here, but you aren't necessarily wrong. I'd imagine it's similar to how 9s are usually relatively friendly, down to earth chicks, but a 6-7 tends to be rude and somewhat stuck up.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/16 03:53 AM
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Infinitely-High Boyfriend-Factor This reads as less related to the 80/20 rule and more closely related to the the extreme interpretations of the Efficient Market Hypothesis.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/16 02:06 PM
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Same reason a gay man in 1950 probably didn't share that fact with his family. Just because you don't believe something is wrong doesn't mean society at large agrees.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/16 04:19 PM

You know that little button under the OP that says 'report'? When you click that, you bring low quality posts to the attention of busy moderators for immediate review. Do your part, hit report.
/r/askTRP24/07/16 06:10 PM
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I mean, this whole discussion is about insecurity. It starts with her insecurity that a quality man will just leave after he f*cks her, so she makes him wait. Many men have known women who like to use men as meal tickets/validation vendors, and so are wary of women who claim to be into them but aren't willing to have sex with them. Unfortunately, individual men and women bare the brunt of the consequences of a lot of fuck ups made by other men and women in the past.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/16 08:21 PM
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Isn't the whole point is for her to treat you like better than chicks treat guys at the nightclub. If he can grab a random ass at a nightclub and be making out with a girl in under 5 minutes, how are you showing you're super into him? Most guys worth dating can get make outs, and can probably get sex from a significant portion of those, so how do you show you're more into him then they are, or that you're worth waiting for?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/16 07:44 PM
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"Sex is like air, it's not important unless you're not getting any." -John Callahan There's nothing inherently wrong with choosing to live your life a certain way. But if you're lacking something in your life for reasons not of your choosing, there is a problem. The desire for sex is an incredibly strong biological impulse for the majority of men, and saying "there's nothing wrong" with not being able to get sex is, while I have no doubt well intention-ed, a dismissive and arrogant thing to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/16 07:37 PM
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I'm not grinding on the lap or passionately tonguing any dude I don't find sexually attractive. Maybe you aren't, but that behavior describes a solid 1/3 of the chicks in a nightclub on any given weekend. I'm not saying you can't convey that you're sexually attracted to a guy in that manner, but it takes more finesse than a shoulder shrug and saying, "We aren't f*cking 'cause I like you."
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/16 07:24 PM
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And tell him for that reason you're not going to jump into bed with him until she senses you really like her back See, that's a really tough sell if your MO is to jump into bed with a guy. It doesn't make logical sense to us that the man you have romantic feelings for is the person you make work hardest to get to the sexual component. So the default go to understanding is that you are less interested in the guy you make wait than the guy you bang right away. No guy wants to be with a woman who i…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/16 06:36 PM
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There's no set answer here. You should wait until you're comfortable with the idea. That said, The question here seems to be more geared toward a woman making a man wait for sex. In that instance, there are a few points that need to be kept in mind/addressed. Be sexual: The number 1 concern with this tactic should be making sure he feels that you're sexually attracted to him. You have to figure out how to do this without actually having sex, but it is possible. Make sure he knows the why of it: …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/16 04:55 PM
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Some of the white lies and exaggerations of stories/accomplishments.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/16 04:21 PM
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I would call this a solid base from which to launch an LTR. Perform aural sex. This part is key, and the only way the delaying sex tactic works without creating future resentments. A guy needs to feel that you're at least as sexually into him as he is to you. Putting off sex without otherwise conveying your desire for him feels suspicious and suggests you're either using him or trying to negotiate your way into being attracted to him.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/16 03:04 PM
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I think makeup is a tool woman use to make themselves look better. I wouldn't call it universally necessary, but at this point unless you're already young and gorgeous a certain amount is expected in most settings where appearance tends to matter. I would say if the situation would require a man to comb/style his hair, it would require a woman to generally wear some makeup. Also, I think the folks you refer to as B camp aren't as rueful of makeup as you make it seem. I think that response is mor…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/16 02:52 PM
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Part jealousy. Part women reward asshole behaviors. Part passivity on the part of the second guy. Part women branding every ex an asshole.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/16 02:50 PM
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The important factor that height is a part of is physical presence/dominance. Men who are tall (6ft+) will exhibit this by default, provided they are in any way proportionate. An average height guy (5'7-5'11) can exhibit this trait either by being somewhat muscular, or by having an outgoing 'large' personality. Short guys (5'6 and under) seem to usually be taken as overcompensating when they try to do this in a group setting. The trick is generally to be her height or taller. To sum up, Height m…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/16 02:35 PM
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How tall are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/16 02:06 PM
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Cheating in that scenario is understandable but not acceptable. He should be able to get an annulment or a divorce hassle free and without owing his former wife any compensation.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 01:56 PM
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Angelina Jolie, Julia Roberts, Monica Belluci, Rachel Weisz, Gwynth Paltrow, and countless others. Have all become significantly less attractive with age. Affleck, Clooney, DiCaprio, Pitt, women still fawn over them in equal or greater numbers than 10 years ago. All you seem to be saying really is that women experience a lower barrier to being sexually attractive. I agree with this, we men are notoriously not picky.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/16 06:05 PM
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A 40 year old cougar with a tight body can go to a college bar and have tall, 22 year old frat boys drooling all over her, buying her drinks because they want to screw a hot older woman. This doesn't mean older women are more attractive, it means young dudes will screw anything with a pussy and a pulse.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/16 05:45 PM
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You are of course welcome to not post here 2-3 times a day if you truly feel the discussion is fruitless.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/16 01:55 PM
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It gives the impression that you have the potential to date a hot girl, no matter how you look. Outside of "go lift", TRP doesn't offer any advice about improving your looks. You know, there's a search bar for the sub so you don't need to be this wrong about what we say. We've had threads on fashion, grooming, and body language that give detailed and practical tips to improve your look. We also advocate fitness (what you call 'go lift') because it's the has the best ROI of any tactic to improve …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/16 04:54 PM
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The only thing worse than a used Volvo is a used Volvo that costs as much as a Mercedes. Right. If it's just her standard to wait 5-6 dates before sex that's one thing, but if she suddenly decides to do that with a certain guy because she likes him, that can screw up the relationship. Especially if he knows her standard behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/16 03:18 PM
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Never though #1 was good advice. If you like a guy, why lead him on longer or make him jump through more hoops? Also, if you aren't at least increasingly sexual, most decent guys (i.e, guys with options) will take it as a lack of interest and move on after 1-2 dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/16 09:17 PM
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Here's the thing people get confused about with hyper-gamy, for single (non-married) people, it's a natural, completely acceptable practice that most everyone does to some extent. Of course you want the best deal possible. There's nothing inherently wrong with either of these peoples choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/16 03:56 PM
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Not sure what view I should be challenging, but I'd say women understand male sexualityjust fine. It's commonly observable that many women understand just how little they need to bring to the table in order to find a man willing to f*ck them. What I think women have difficulty fathoming, is male sex drive. The strength of that urge is what they struggle with.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/16 03:33 PM
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But the way people and RPers are, you can't concede any point to them. If you give them an inch, they take a mile. That's probably the most frustrating thing about these discussions, the way some absolutists cancel out the reasonable good faith debaters. For instance, I'd be more willing to discuss the morality of a given strategy/tactic, if BP folks didn't so often either conflate efficacy with morality or deem 'sexual strategy' immoral as an entire body of thought.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/16 08:14 PM
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In fairness, most folks don't think about how automation could negatively impact them until it does.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/16 01:59 PM
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I notice with younger men, they think they have the right to be bigger but God forbid a woman's above 110 pounds. This sounds personal to you. Generally speaking, men care less about weight or size than we do shape. As long as the feminine form is maintained we'll have some level of attraction. That's not to say that perky tits/small waist/big ass isn't the ideal- it is. Just that male attraction is a wide target. Also, guys have just as many body confidence issues as women, it's just no one giv…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/16 03:55 PM
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Evolution rewards not just individual strength and reproduction, but group cooperation and survival. Cave Chad can't kill a mammoth by himself, but Cave Kevin can kill many mammoth with the help of his tribe and some rudimentary tactical thought.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/16 03:41 PM
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The question was about effectiveness, not morality. Stay in the correct lane.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/16 01:25 PM
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Lena Dunham. If a 5 is plain looking with nothing really objectionable about her appearance, a 4 is that with 1 or 2 mildly to somewhat unattractive features. Generally if you look at a girl and think; "I wouldn't f*ck her, but I can think of a couple dudes that would." You're dealing with a 4.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/16 06:03 PM
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No, but considering the underlying question was "Should deception count as rape?" We leave the factual realm of is and enter the opining realm of should.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/16 08:00 PM
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Rape involves two components; Sexual Intercourse Denial of Agency Lying to a person doesn't constitute a denial of agency. We have a strong belief of caveat emptor in our economic interactions in the U.S. I think we should apply that standard equally when it comes to sex/relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/16 06:19 PM
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Then what kind of 'deception' do you equate this to?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/16 02:00 PM
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Is a high “gender contrast” needed for good sex? Yes. I like sleeping with women, not men. Do you find sex to be better if the woman doesn’t explicitly initiate? I wouldn't say it's always better, but I think it takes away from it if either party comes to see sex as a chore, and I think the sort of 'soft initiation' she mentions are very feminine. What should a woman do if her husband doesn’t seem interested in sex, despite her attempts as seducing him? Ask him what's up or take a hard look at y…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/16 03:03 PM
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Do you believe deception, or trickery should violate consent, and be treated by the law as such? Why or why not? I don't see how we could possibly enforce that. It'd lead to more he said/she said scenarios. I think we do ourselves and victims a disservice when we allow the concept of 'rape' to undergo definition creep. Rape is the removal or denial of a persons sexual agency. There are a lot of terribly sh*tty things a person can do in their sex life, but not all of them are rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/16 02:32 PM
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Women are attracted to dominant, masculine men. She's been conditioned by life to associate those features with height. Show her she's wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/16 04:23 PM
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This actually seems pretty consistent with my view of SMV, barring a couple outliers everyone's rating is going to cluster in a relatively small 'window'.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/16 02:27 PM
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I've seen two types of couples this happens with. 1: A women brings her favorite beta up to the major leagues when she starts thinking marriage. These are normally characterized by a guy ~2 points lower in SMV, whom she knew 'like, forever' before they started dating. She'll talk a lot about 'dating her best friend' etc, and you can expect proposal/cohabitation within 6-18 mos. These have the greatest risk for infidelity or deadbedroom status, because she knows on some level she can do better, a…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/16 02:56 PM
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This is a low effort post. Change what you can, accept what you can't.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/16 02:16 PM
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There's a lot of potential violence in the world. A man could potentially beat a woman. A woman could potentially cry and lie and get a man beat up by 3 or 4 bigger, stronger, men. The world is as full of potential violence as it is with potential energy. This is very different from threatening violence.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/16 02:14 PM
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Generally speaking if your only access to a resource is through illegal means, you're considered priced out of the market.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/16 01:57 PM
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Recognizing the number of men who're priced out of the sexual market is a necessary and useful tool in getting an accurate picture of the SMP. At the very least recognizing that inceldom affects men at least 2-4x as much as women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/16 09:32 PM
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Information exists, and is neither moral nor immoral. Finding the causal relationship between factors/events using information is neither moral, nor immoral. Sex is not inherently moral or immoral, either as a desire or practice. Strategy is not inherently moral or not, and though specific strategies can be immoral, this does not make the concept of strategy itself immoral. The moral component comes from actions, not thoughts or words, and just because certain sexual strategies (rape) are immora…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/16 02:20 PM
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The only way you can get the result you want is to make Guy A an apple and Guy B an orange. most grown women don't want to marry a physically hot asshole. Maybe. But most women wouldn't give a 4/10 guy a chance, regardless of his personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/16 01:17 PM
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When in doubt, go with a clean black t-shirt that fits properly and a pair of darker blue jeans. It's a look that works for virtually any guy.
/r/TheRedPill09/06/16 04:51 PM
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Why do you wish they applied it if it wouldn't enable you to act like TRP? Wouldn't have to. That's what many non-RP folks seem not to understand. TRP is fundamentally reactionary. It's a response to how women's behavior has changed over the past 20 years. So if women change their behavior again, the Red Pill thing to do would be to adapt, not stick to practices that no longer are effective.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/16 04:31 PM
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Take two different guys; Guy A: 9/10 appearance, 4/10 personality Guy B: 4/10 appearance, 9/10 personality Be honest, Who gets laid more?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/16 01:14 PM
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No. They are not yet required to sign up for selective service by law. There has been discussion of it, since we've begun to allow women in combat roles, but women are still not obligated to sign up. EDIT: Which is tangential to my point above.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/16 08:54 PM
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Democracy was invented as the substitution of the ballot for the bullet, and a vote for violence. It's a substitution for the violence a man would commit serving in a civil war that would otherwise occur for power to change hands. The thinking for those who feel women shouldn't vote (as I understand it) is that women historically never fought for their nation and so their vote isn't a substitution for anything. They see a man's vote as a right which he earns by virtue of agreeing not to be viole…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/16 06:35 PM
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Consider Jon Stewart. He is perhaps one of the most persuasive and capable liberals in the United States. A man of his caliber in politics would make a formidable opponent on most debate stages. But he's from Comedy Central. He isn't (wasn't) a politician or even a serious news anchor, his whole reason for employment is to make jokes and be funny. His network and show have hidden behind that excuse for every mistake and overshoot they've made. So when J-Stew goes to interview a politician, he is…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/16 02:52 PM
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and again, you put it on the man. Why? Are women incapable of being responsible? You don't want kids? Get a vasectomy. Sounds good. What about; You don't want kids? Use birth control You don't want kids? Tie your tubes. You don't want kids? Don't f*ck. You don't want kids? Grow up and be responsible. Feminists are always dithering on about "her body, her choice" and yet they expect all her choices to be subsidized by me, as either her baby-daddy or a tax payer.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/16 02:31 PM
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"God, I really want to fucking kiss you right now." Do you really feel someone needs to ask over a kiss?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/16 02:26 PM
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Because here at PPD, the assumption is you're here to debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/16 02:19 PM
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The choices we make and the fruits of those choices are arguably the only fair things on which to judge someone. Why judge other people so much, especially when they tell you they're happy with their choices? Extrapolation. If a guy tells me he's happy playing house husband while his wife gets railed out by 2-3 different guys a month, there's a chance he is actually happy. But I know how I would feel in that circumstance, and I know how every other guy I know would feel in that circumstance. So …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/16 02:16 PM
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I'd rather the mother get an abortion or not get pregnant without the means to support a child. Why do folks always default to a man having to take responsibility for a choice that a woman makes?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/16 02:07 PM
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Right. Guns aren't "out to get" you, but you should handle a loaded gun as though it has the potential to seriously harm you.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/16 03:37 PM
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RP men believe in the possibility that a woman could be malicious. We also understand the reality of the current system, as well as most changes proposed by the feminist-left, provides men who are attacked maliciously with very little means of defense. I don't believe many people are murderers, but I wouldn't let someone point a loaded gun at my head.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/16 02:45 PM
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Honestly, If I had to choose between her going for it and me stopping that particular advance, and we keep on f*cking, or her stopping the action because she wants to have a conversation about butt boundaries, I'd choose option A. and again, (and this is really the central point here), I would NOT consider it rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/16 06:40 PM
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Right... So how does affirmative consent fix that?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/16 06:26 PM
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Then it would be an slightly awkward situation. What it would not be, is rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/16 05:02 PM
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Again, you would want a girl to ask before sticking a finger in your butt, right? The one time this happened, I caught her hand, pushed it behind her back, and continued the previously scheduled fun times. She got the message from context, and It'd never occur to me to charge her with sexual assault for doing that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/16 04:04 PM
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Would that be acceptable as an affirmative consent? I usually maneuver myself so she ends up on top, then I go for escalation. That way, if she pulls back, I can feel it right away and calibrate. Plus she doesn't feel trapped under someone twice her size. Do you think this achieves the same thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/16 03:39 PM
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So what is the function of this over the existing system where everyone uses context clues and if that doesn't work one party can say 'No'?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/16 03:33 PM
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...but people who take advantage of other drunk ...people. Except drunk folks can enthusiastically consent. Their inhibitions are lower, so intoxicated people are actually more enthusiastic.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/16 03:30 PM
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In fairness, it's not what women want, but what feminists want. And calling feminists women is tremendously unfair to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/16 03:22 PM
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If it was a case of a girl was claiming you raped her, and the judge asked you "did you ask her if she wanted to have sex with you?" and you said no, well you're probably fucked. If you say you did, recite the exchange, then you at least have a stance and a defense. How does this change anything? What's to stop a person from just saying the other party consented anyways. You think someone who's cool with rape will draw the line at perjury? Especially if it's to avoid prison. How often do you hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/16 03:20 PM
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I don't think rape or false rape claims are particularly common. I think probably < 20% are malicious lies, with many more not meeting the legal standard for rape, and still more being extremely murky he said/ she said situations where no reasonable man could make a definitve judgement based solely on available facts.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/16 03:06 PM
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None.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/16 10:39 PM
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Please show me a source where anyone is claiming notarized consent contracts should be an actual thing. As far as I'm aware, that's a South Park joke (recycled from a Chapelle's Show joke) You're here now, so I trust you're clever enough to use google yourself. But ok, so then how do you enforce affirmative consent? my grievance is when adults (men and women alike) tell little girls that when a boy hits them, it's because he has a crush on her. To me and to many others, this is planting the seed…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/16 08:37 PM
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Affirmative consent: Every time this comes up, there seems to be a narrative that it is impossible to gain enthusiastic consent without sacrificing The Mood. That it is natural for men to ravage women without their permission, See, there's my issue. "Have your partner's consent" isn't the issue. The toxic part of your position is that every sexual encounter without a signed and notarized contract is presumed rape on the part of the man. BWbB: This isn't really anything to do with sexuality. That…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/16 07:55 PM
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Because you made up that 'fact' in your head just now?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/16 09:24 PM
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Granted, I'm not in Vegas, but my place is fairly high end for the area and we've had security guys ranging from 5'5" to 7', and 150lbs to 320lbs. I myself am 5'9". My experience generally has been that owners would rather have someone smart/observant enough to prevent a fight from happening than someone who can beat up everybody. They should have enough size to handle themselves for a while (or dissuade an altercation), but generally you have 5 other guys coming to back you up.
/r/TheRedPill27/05/16 05:32 PM
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You might be being too friendly. If I don't know you and you waste my time blathering about whatever subject you think I might care about, you're distracting me from the people I actually like talking to.
/r/TheRedPill27/05/16 05:09 PM
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I'd say ~40% have sex < 1 time a year. Of that, about 1/3 are probably virgins.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/16 02:56 PM
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On social media: 2-5. Social circle: 0 core. 0 in the circle, but a few spout the occasional innate talking point (Women make .77 on the dollar, Sansa Stark's rape was the worst thing to happen on GoT, Bernie Sanders should win because BLM, etc.) 1-2 radfems/leftists exist on the peripheral, but I usually only deal with them as a favor to closer friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/16 01:24 PM
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Age shaming and Gold digger shaming are more or less two sides of the same coin. The assumption is the man is only after some tight pretty young thing, with no concern for her mind or spirit, and the woman is after so poor old saps money with no genuine affection or desire for the man. Both come from an arrogance that says we know better what an individual wants/needs than that individual. Also a strict romantic belief that if sex isn't for 'love', it's somehow illegitimate.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/16 02:43 PM
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I think deriving a large part of your self-worth from the sex you are or aren't having is bad for you, and I think TRP perpetuates this. I think it's already been perpetuated for years upon decades now. At this point, we're just going over how men can get what they want (sex). Whether it's a culturally enhanced desire or a natural one would be an interesting discussion though.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/16 02:07 PM
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AMALT Yeah, that's basically fair. Obviously by hitting the gym, maintaining a healthy diet, and being a fun, interesting woman with a strong feminine frame you can significantly up your odds of keeping a man. Divorce Rape Simply doesn't reflect the legal landscape in the US. That said, I don't think many women benefit from marriage nowadays either, unless you live in a conservative area or get a good CS/alimony payout from the divorce. The Wall Yeah, turns out no one gets to 'have it all', men …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/16 11:06 PM
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Do you also think that any woman who dates a rich dude has no right to complain about physical abuse?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/16 02:19 PM
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Option 2. I can use my powers to amass wealth. Then I have money and a superpower.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/16 02:16 PM
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Maybe that's his reality right now. For those of you who are too old or traumatized to remember, high school kids are mostly fairly shitty people, especially too each other. If he's fat and short, that probably exacerbates any issues. Or maybe not. Maybe he's the trillionth angry teen who views everything in a hard line black and white sort of way because he doesn't have life experience yet to tell him otherwise. I don't think its a world view that's fully formed, and though it may not be positi…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/16 02:15 PM
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It's not about women 'liking' when men flirt with other women, it's about showing that a given man is attractive enough to have the interest of others. Overt flirting is also doing it wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/16 08:17 PM
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On a societal level, MGTOW (Note: I'm using the hardline version of MGTOW here) is not good for either the welfare state or our consumption based economy. Men out work and out earn women as a whole, but men are not the primary consumers of our economy, women are. Without sex and women, a big part of the male incentive to work beyond his needs, to produce extra, is gone. Couple that with growing government spending, which relies on the taxation of income and consumption to fund itself, which will…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/16 02:21 PM
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Anyone who thinks men won't trade some realism for a sense of sexual validation or that men couldn't possibly get emotional validation from a machine forgets the wild popularity of WoW and other video games.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/16 02:08 PM
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He didn't say men were uniformly awesome at love. You asked 'How exactly do you want a woman to love you?' He answered. Basically, men want to be loved unconditionally. Which is how many women appear to not only want, but expect to be loved. There are both men and women that fall short of this, but it's worth noting that women initiate divorces far more often than men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/16 01:59 PM
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One of my best friends came out a few years ago. From what I've seen, he still deals with most of the BS we associate with women, just hairier and with more dick. The one real benefit he seems to have is the ability to have casual sex, but it's also much more dangerous for him to do so.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/16 03:20 PM
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So why is this? Are you maintaining that's all guys are interested in? Or all they should be interested in? I'm maintaining that at the founding of /r/TRP, our purpose was how to have more sex with better women. Everything else, from self improvement to cultural/ gender theory, to the push to embrace masculinity, is based in the simple goal of having more sex with better quality women. I disagree: I think guys are (often, not always) interested in more than just sex. Obviously. And that TRP offe…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/16 02:28 PM
1

It has the benefits of UBI without the inflationary drawbacks.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/16 03:22 PM
1

I'm more in favor of a negative income tax like Friedman suggested as opposed to a UBI. I also think a father should have as much right to opt to not pay child support as a woman does to opt for an abortion. If parenthood is a choice,then it should be a choice for each parent. I don't think I'd support a full NIT or UBI payment for a child, but maybe a small increase for the parent(s).
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/16 02:00 PM
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TRP is about sex and sexual strategy, so if you're bringing other meanings of attractiveness into the discussion, you're veering off-topic. Also, the common usage of attractive in relation to people is understood to mean, at least in part, sexual. If you're using the term differently you should specify.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/16 09:20 PM
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Sex is the main reason for TRPs existence, so yes, for our discussion purposes, everything is about sex. When a BP woman says "I find nerdy guys attractive" they don't probably mean that they would go to a club and hook up with a random nerdy guy just for being nerdy... So what do they mean from your interpretation? I agree with your premise, but in your example she is making a flat out false statement. They don't find nerdy guys attractive, they find attractive guys attractive, and if he's nerd…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/16 09:09 PM
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Not in the western world. I think modern feminism's role should be spreading the advances of 1st and 2nd wave feminism to the rest of the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/16 08:18 PM
3

Is the 1-10 a measure of control or drive? Control is an 8 because I'll do things where sex is the goal/reward, but I've never negatively impacted my life by pursuing sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/16 08:16 PM
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You're right, those guys are all going on to great futures and will never be impacted by that night at all. Two students and high school football players, Ma'lik Richmond and Trent Mays, both 16 at the time of the crime, were convicted in juvenile court for the rape of a minor. Additionally, three other adults have been indicted for obstructing the investigation into the rape, while Steubenville's superintendent of schools has been charged with hindering the investigation into a rape that took p…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/16 05:29 PM
1

What you just described used to be marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/16 04:14 PM
8

The only people telling rape victims they'll be ridiculed or not taken seriously are feminists.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/16 04:12 PM
2

Never directly turned down sex, but I have a few time sidestepped situations that likely led to sex. Normally my reasons for do so were some combination of her being too intoxicated to know what she wanted/be any good, and social factors.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/16 03:31 PM
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They're [Incel men] starving, and they just want to eat. They [FA women] can eat, but the food's all poison... This is a very artful way of putting it. Extending from this metaphor, it's easy to see why incel men resent women who refer to themselves as 'FA' or 'incel'. Though in each case the optimal situation is an abundance of delicious food, a starving man will still envy the woman who only eats poisoned food for her ability (temporary though it is) to taste that food and have even a fleeting…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/16 02:40 PM
1

You don't ask random internet people for advice when you're happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/16 01:59 PM
8

its just butt stuff. Then why doesn't she just do it with him? I mean, its just butt stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/16 03:55 PM
2

I'm mid twenties, and it seems that 25-31 is a sweet spot for men. I can fairly comfortably date/associate with women between 19-40 without it being perceived negatively by most folks. I'm personally of the opinion that age becomes mostly irrelevant once you enter the self sustaining/independent stage of your life. Don't get me wrong, if a 25 y.o man is seeing an 18 y.o girl, there's a 90% chance it's mostly about the sex. But then again, a 25 y.o man seeing a 25 y.o girl is also mostly about th…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/16 06:13 AM
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They want sex right away yet get pissed off if the woman has a higher n count and likely next the same women they want with low n counts. Yeah, totally. Along the same lines I dated this one girl that wanted me to always be lustful for her, but got mad if I wanted to bang other girls. What a hypocrite! /s
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/16 03:26 AM
12

women are master manipulators, cold and calculating, but also, stupid inferior children. Children are fantastic manipulators.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/16 03:22 AM
4

I would say there is a benefit to having attractive women in your life whom you aren't actively trying to sleep with. Particularly for young/less experienced guys, it gets them accustomed to being around good looking women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/16 02:37 PM
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Eh. Padme's role, at it's core, was cute love interest. The only 'recent' move where she really got more time than needed to advance the plot was Ep. II. and this is what they put her in for the largest chunk of her screen time. Rey in Ep. VII is more than eye candy. But she also is eye candy. It's hard to imagine they'd choose a less attractive actress to fill the main role. The other women in the movie are either nods to the OT or armored completely so as not to be noticeable (also a total let…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/16 02:02 PM
5

Not one word of that interaction implies that the man thinks he is 'owed' her time. He approached, was brushed off, was, very understandably, probably a little hurt by the rejection (as most people are), and made a stupid, face saving comment. No where did he say or imply he was owed anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/16 03:00 PM
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No. No. Since real men and real women look like that, they by definition are not 'unrealistic'. Anyone who objects to 'TV ugly' or 'Hollywood average' needs to get more real life experience. This is a tricky one. A woman has to be more attractive to break into media, but a man has to be more attractive to get cast as an 'attractive guy' Men also generally have to work harder to be/ stay very attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/16 05:15 PM
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This might be true if individual preferences didn't exist, Sure, preferences can contribute to a variation in how attractive you are. But the range will usually cluster in a very small area, and the mean of that is a fair representation. or you couldn't change how attractive you look with a good sense of aesthetics. I mean, you can polish tin as much as you want, but you can't turn it into gold. Likewise a 4 won't become an 8 with the right haircut and a fitted shirt.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/16 04:45 PM
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Given the height and what I can see of his face/body from that picture, I'd put him in the 5.5-6.5 range.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/16 04:29 PM
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I don't think anyone (except maybe the more delusional SJWs and FA types) believe that looks don't matter at all. Rather, what boys are usually told is that girls value other traits more than physical attractiveness. Traits like strength, humor, loyalty, etc. As I've said before, this is actually true, in the sense that a charismatic 6 does better with women than an 8 whose a wad. However, it ignores the fact that all those guys who are < 6 are completely SOL in terms of women. They fail at the …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/16 04:08 PM
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You'd be correct if as a society we all agreed that woman's sole value is her sexual value, in other words that her SMV defines the entirety of who she is and what she is worth. This is not the case. We all, being social animals and having various needs/wants/desires, attribute multiple valuations across a broad spectrum of criteria, including sexual, relational, economical, moral/ethical, and several others. Someone is going to ask why TRP only ascribes sexual value when choosing a partner, if …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/16 02:36 PM
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She sleeps with other guys and she sleeps with other women. Is this a typo? Also, assuming it is, is there rough parity in the practice of the arrangement? Or is it more likely something your father did to appease/keep your mother?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/16 02:03 PM
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Casual sex. First date is a hookup. Second is casual sex. Grey area, but I'd say no. Even if an intent for a relationship isn't stated, there's a visible idea that this doesn't seem casual. No.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/16 07:35 PM
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How would you go about deciding the amount? The same way judges determine emotional distress settlements now. Consider that the average cost of raising a child to 18 is estimated at ~$250,000. Even if she split the bills 50-50, that's $125,000 a woman is wrongfully extracting from a man by lying about paternity. Would the woman not being sure who the father is make a difference? Perhaps a mitigating factor, but not an affirmative defense. If there's a possibility the kid isn't his, a woman reall…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/16 05:39 PM
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In addition to reimbursing expenses incurred during the pregnancy, I think a reimbursement for 'emotional distress' would make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/16 04:11 PM
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Gays aren't really relevant to a straight male sexual strategy, and so don't hugely factor in to the main TRP discussions. We do have /r/AltTRP. Personally, I could give a sh*t what people do privately. It's a travesty that the state inserts itself into private contracts/relationships, and although I do believe that a mother and a father is the ideal parenting unit to raise a child, I think there are fair worse conditions than having 2 moms or dads. (i.e, single parent, orphan)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/16 03:40 PM
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It's similar to discussing police brutality against blacks, and someone pointing out cops also kill whites. While that is technically true, the statistics would indicate that police brutality is much more a black problem than a white one, and that whites usually have to do something way worse to be treated as poorly as their black counterparts.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/16 06:12 PM
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I've met multiple girls that have been so unattractive physically and personality wise that they were still virgins. Sure. Real female incels who are actually too fat/ugly/awkward to get laid exist. The difference is when you talk about someone too physically unattractive to get any sexual interest, you're talking about a male 5 and a female 2.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/16 05:15 PM
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True. But i'm speaking generally. 99% of guys aren't going to come close to having the type of money or power it takes for Melania to be attracted to Trump, but a basically cool 6.5 guy who pulls down $60-$90k a year can get himself a 7.5-8 without too much trouble.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/16 04:47 PM
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It's more common to see small gap couples with a less attractive man (8 girl, 6.5 guy), and large gap couples with a more attractive guy (6.5 guy, 3 girl). My guess as to the reason for this is that men are more proficient at making up small gaps by being rich/clever/well endowed. Once a man clears the binary hurdle of "Is he f*ckable?" Female attraction comes down to mostly to confidence and personality. On the male side, you have a a greater variance of what can be considered attractive, as we…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/16 01:50 PM
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Do you have a link? All of the studies I've seen cited would have to be very cherry-picked to reach that conclusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/16 01:24 PM
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Take ALL married/LTR'd men. Eliminate those who for religious reasons, only have procreative sex. Eliminate those too old/frail/sick to f*ck. Eliminate those whose wife/LTR is too old/frail/sick to f*ck Eliminate those who become physically unattractive (or vice versa). Eliminate those couples for whom the stress of work/children/marriage kills their sex life. That should get you down to the 60s or 70s. Note that i'm not saying 80% don't have sex. I'm saying < 80% do.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/16 01:22 PM
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A male 5 can become a 7 more easily than his female equivalent, but it will still take him at a minimum months of work and effort. But a female 5 can acquire sex & commitment far more easily than her male counterpart. A male 5 is 'priced out' of the SMP about 60% of the time. A female 5 not only has access to easy sex, but can get commitment from most men between 5-7.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/16 05:52 AM
4

Your flair checks out :/
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/16 05:36 PM
4

I don't believe that marriage is a huge disadvantage to men in general if they have everything locked down in their lives. That doesn't make it a 'good' idea. If your sales pitch for marriage is "Not a huge disadvantage*", then marriage must be a very underwhelming product indeed.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/16 03:17 PM
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for sub-optimal men. I'm curious what you mean by this. If you mean sub-optimal for your purposes, then by definition yes, as a man who won't get married is a sub-optimal fit for a woman trying to attain her MRS. If it's a little jab at RPS and the rest of us, then i'm a little disappointed that someone who is usually so well written and thought out is down to school yard insults.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/16 03:01 PM
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not a place for douchebags like whisper and RPS to promote male sexual strategy to the detriment of women Do you have any examples? Asking what you would/will do given that an increasing number of high value men are turning off to marriage isn't "promoting male sexual strategy" by the way, it's encouraging you to develop contingencies to reflect a changing landscape.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/16 02:48 PM
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When her dad is rich and you need his gold and soldiers to secure your bid for the throne. It's never really a 'good' idea, but there can be cases where it isn't an inherently 'bad' idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/16 02:45 PM
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The TRP position on Marriage is (and always has been) that it is a sub-optimal strategy for men that they should avoid, and the best strategy for women who are capable of choosing a quality man. To my understanding, the nice ladies at RPWi couldn't accept the first part of that statement for some reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/16 02:28 PM
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How large/small are you? My experience is that most women like men who're; a. Larger than them. b. Can pick them up. Given these, I'd guess you're fairly petite. Is that accurate?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/16 02:04 PM
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So you think a 25 y.o virgin, a man whose sex life is held hostage, and a guy who hasn't gotten laid in 6 years are successful "if they have any sense"? You think they are happy?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/16 01:57 PM
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There's a difference between rising above our basic programming and denying it's existence. It's the difference between "I know cake is delicious, but I need to eat this kale to not get fat." and "Kale tastes better than cake."
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/16 01:41 PM
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Do you think Mark, Sam and Omar sound happy? Drew? Chris or Chad? You aren't wrong per se, but it's a bit of a cop out to what I actually asked; I'd give you a few examples, and you all can comment whether they are 'successful with women'.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/16 01:29 PM
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Again Reddit is seems to be inhabited by unusual people who do not represent the average human citizen Redditors can't even make Reddit a profitable business. It would take more than just the denizens of reddit being sexually unsuccessful to feed the industry.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/16 06:35 PM
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The only half of your single friends have had any sex at all in an ENTIRE year? Yep. That's why sex and how to get sex is an industry worth hundreds of millions of dollars.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/16 06:15 PM
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How many single men would you reckon had any sex at all in the last year? ~50% I'm guessing at least 80% Of single men? That's absurd. I'd bet not even 80% of married/LTR'd men had sex last year.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/16 05:18 PM
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The fact that the internet (specifically reddit) attracts a certain type of person does certainly magnify the observed effect, but that does not mean the effect itself doesn't exist. Excluding men in a long term relationship, I would say the vast majority of men (I'd say at least 85%) spend their youth having casual sex. Which movie or TV series do you live in? Those are the only places where everybody gets laid consistently. I would say (from observation) It's closer to 60% of (single) guys who…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/16 01:56 PM
2

It's fun (or at the very least cathartic) for me to write this stuff down. Influencing others through my writing is also a form of power.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/16 10:25 PM
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Not at all. I also care about: Making money Accumulating power Having fun Enjoying friends and family Seeing to it that they enjoy all of the above And again, whom and for what do I owe such a debt to 'society' that I should make the sacrifice of living sub-optimally?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/16 06:46 PM
3

My father had me and my brother in his 40's. Seemed to mostly work out. He fully enjoyed his youth, made money and bought/paid off a house and car(s) before adding the expense of children. One piece of advice if you decide to have kids when you're older, Take good care of your health. Dad had major health scares when I was 6, 15, and 23, and I think my brother and I would have missed out greatly if he hadn't made it. Also worth considering is that when I'm in my 30's he'll be in his 70's. I'm hi…
/r/askTRP25/04/16 06:42 PM
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I care about optimizing for happiness on a micro level. My life and lives of those I care about are more important to me by far than the vague, amorphous, 'society' you seem to want me to serve. Put more pretentiously, as the actor in a given scenario, my derived utility from the result counts for more than the non-actors in said scenario.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/16 06:28 PM
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So shouldnt you do you duty and become and stay a beta Firstly, who do you think I have a 'duty' to? To whom do I owe so much that I should choose a personally sub-optimal life? It seems you are just trying to make the world into a situation with 50 kings by teaching everyone the red pill secrets We advise being more alpha. The dating market is so saturated with deep blue betas, that there is a strong demand for even low quality alpha-trait males. Even if 1 million men follow our advice to the l…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/16 06:16 PM
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First, you're making the mistake of thinking betas are worse than alphas. From a societal perspective, that is simply not true. Society not only needs betas, they need them to greatly outnumber the alphas, in order for society to prosper and grow. A kingdom with 1 king and 49 subjects works, a kingdom with 50 kings is a bloody and chaotic civil war. Second, even if your assumption was correct, there's a significant question of why the individual should care.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/16 05:52 PM
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I think there's a difference between creating your own "clubhouse" for which you control the criteria for entry, and co-opting public spaces and spaces primarily funded by the people you attempt to exclude. The notion that any college, public or private, excludes the exercise of free speech or other rights by taxpayers and/or tuition payers respectively is absurd. The notion of creating your own private supported space and not opening it up to people who hate you is a different proposition entir…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 05:39 AM
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Yes. It can be, depending on the circumstance/level of deception. Some. I'm against lying in a way that could harm someone, but white lies and creative salesmanship to generate/create intial interest is acceptable.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/16 06:24 PM
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Mental issues and extreme promiscuity could put her in a low value category if people know about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/16 03:57 PM
2

I don't consider myself a suffragist or an abolitionist. This is not because I believe in slavery and taking away the vote, but because everyone in the US is anti-slavery and pro-voting rights for women/blacks. It's not an intellectual movement anymore because the causes they advocated are adhered to by such a vast segment of the population, it's become the 'default', the norm. We define other ideologies and movements who don't believe in these principles by that fact. So now, apply this to femi…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/16 03:27 PM
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"We're not having sex tonight" is the #1 indicator she wants to have sex tonight.
/r/TheRedPill19/04/16 03:12 PM
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I'll answer, but first, prove to me that love exists at all. I won't accept circumstantial observations. I won't accept repeating RPBP/Mainstream theory or aphorisms. I mean actual evidence. Do you see the issue yet?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/16 01:55 PM
1

I agree with your concerns, but I think the reason for the 'mandatory' is to avoid the heavy shaming/social ramifications existing on a man who requests one now. The best answer would probably be to institute a default paternity test, with an opt-out option for the father.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/16 05:02 PM
2

Themselves.
/r/askTRP15/04/16 03:37 PM
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If he thought TRP was gaining traction, and a serious threat, then he would outright attack it, because it would be worthy of a real attack. I see your thought process, but I think you make the mistake of assuming he thinks he's talking to a like-minded or neutral audience. He seems to have an at least an undercurrent of writing to young RP guys, or at least the RP curious. He can't just attack us because that would make those people more curious, and associate him with the rabid SJW criers that…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/16 01:44 PM
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If it isn't obvious RPS(Morpheus)'s interview is heavily edited and cherry picked. I never expected a unbiased, fair, or even honest, take. What's interesting to me is the subtle shift in mainstream discussion of TRP and other 'Manosphere' forums/writings from "They're the rape-devil!" to "Those poor, pathetic, loser boys" I think it's a sign that RP ideology is gaining traction (or maybe feminism losing traction) that MSM doesn't outright attack TRP, so much as condescend to it. Also, it's odd …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/16 08:48 PM
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No matter how pushy a salesman is, we'd never call it a theft.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/16 06:09 PM
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for a 18 yo, is 9 notches to much? Really depends on your tastes and what you want. Assuming she started between 15-16, she's averaging about 3 guys a year. This is before alcohol really starts to play into the situation. Based on this info, I wouldn't view her as a good LTR investment. A FWB? She's probably great.
/r/askTRP14/04/16 05:12 PM
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That's rape territory. Well, no it isn't. Because there was no sex or even an immediate implication of sex (unless you think kissing typically leads to sex). So it isn't "rape territory". It isn't even on Sexual Assault St. It is in the Unwanted Advance postal code, but as we know, that's a large place that has a large non-malicious misunderstanding population. Fun wordplay aside, an unwanted advance that is rebuffed by talking to a 'piss drunk' guy is not an rape attempt.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/16 02:47 PM
4

TRP very much undervalues the importance of personality because they often think physical looks are all that matters. Which is why our discussions are mostly about frame, game, and status/wealth building. Physical attractiveness may only one piece of the attraction puzzle, but it's the foundational piece. You can argue that walls, a roof, or doorways are all important to a house, and they are, but without a foundation the house is weak.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/16 01:59 PM
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He was trying to rape bang her though. FTFY. guy shoved me against a closet door and continued to kiss my neck when I asked him several times to let go. Is this what you think sex is?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/16 01:37 PM
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Women's emotions are treated almost as facts. If you say something that upsets me but is true, society rightly says I need to deal with it. If you say something that upsets a woman but is true, society says you need to alter what you're saying so it doesn't upset her. Women also seem to reason from emotion, whereas men emote from reason. If i'm angry at someone for some reason, and I find that reason to be false, I am no longer angry at them. Often, if a woman is angry with me, showing the reaso…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/16 03:30 PM
2

An Alpha Male has a physically powerful presence, yes, but physically fit it would depend on your definition.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/16 09:48 PM
1

It's worth noting that that comment thread has several people; a. Inquiring about how to engage in sexual choking safely. b. Explaining in detail how to do so safely and how to not actually choke her. This is a common issue with BPers in that y'all seem to interpret everything said by all RP guys as literally and maliciously as possible, without even considering the possibility that the guy in question could pick up the social cues in the moment, and calibrate his actions accordingly.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/16 02:12 PM
1

I mostly ignore TBP. there are always some women on TBP that complain that it's what their shitty ex-boyfriend did or that they are scared of that happening to them I'm already familiar with NAWALT. I also understand that the type of woman who actively contributes to a group dedicated to talking about what a jerk I am just might not approve of my technique.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/16 02:50 PM
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We really need a Rant flair for some of these threads... ...next time I hung out with a plate... A plate is not a complete stranger, a plate is girl you're seeing casually for a period of time. A f*ckbuddy, not a ONS random. I don't know about you, but most of women I've had repeat sex with the type and quality of sex progresses over time. There's also always communication during, such that I know almost immediately if the 'fun' boundary has been crossed.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/16 02:16 PM
1

If you have the looks to pull a 5, you have the looks to pull a 9. Looks are generally a minimum standard. Once you cross that threshold, other factors carry more weight. Also, it's good experience. Plus a lot of guys think like you, so you might be surprised at how little an 8 or 9 actually gets approached.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/16 03:08 PM
1

It's not legal or readily available in most western countries. A decent quality escort would run you a couple hundred in the states, hardly affordable for the younger men most likely to be isolated. The cheaper options are much more likely to carry STDs. Also more likely to be associated with the things that made sex work illegal in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/16 02:20 PM
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Actually, just saw this. Maybe others disagree with you? The number being 150,000, 15,000, or even 1,500 is still a sizable number of people to notice a trend. Most academic studies are treated as valid with a far smaller sample. Also, BPers (which I identified you as through your misguided use of snark over losing fake internet points) can't simultaneously say "All RPers are alike" and "You aren't all saying the same thing." You have to pick one.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/16 08:14 PM
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There's a right and wrong place to ask for scientific/statistical sources. Most BPers who do this are well aware that their aren't any studies done on the specific matters we're discussing, or that their are obvious issues with the studies done that lead to questions of veracity. In instances such as that, I think a sample of ~150,000 men saying "Yeah, I've noticed this trend as well" deserves to hold some consideration. Also, If I say "I like brunettes" or "Men like blow-jobs" or "Men do not li…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/16 05:43 PM
2

Party safe kids!
/r/askTRP30/03/16 08:58 PM
2

Depends on a lot of factors beyond what's given. Based solely on available information, I mostly likely wouldn't believe her.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/16 01:37 PM
2

Keto diet + 30 mins/day of cardio to lose fat. Keto diet w/ extra protein + Heavy lifting to add muscle.
/r/askTRP29/03/16 05:14 PM
2

ONS: 75% Marry LTR: 20% I'm in my mid twenties, so a lot of girls in my age range are sexually attractive by virtue of existing and not being deformed or obese. But most of them have terrible fitness, diet, and lifestyle habits that are in some cases already affecting their beauty, so there's only a few i'm confident I'd still want to f*ck in twenty years.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/16 01:51 PM
1

TRP took this and ran with it, extrapolating to "All men are smarter than all women. Nope. You had the first half right, men are humanities testing gender, so there's much more variance in men. More male geniuses, more male morons. Women and men are complementary to each other, but arguing either genders wholesale superiority is nonsense. It's like comparing bananas and bagels.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/16 01:42 PM
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I think most men are aware that consent to sex = consent to parenthood currently for men. Advocating for a more equitable system doesn't mean they're being stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/16 08:03 PM
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"BPers who are worried about TRPers sexual tastes are creepy." Without writing like an overly emotional tumblrina in ALL CAPS to mask not having a real point, how is this creepy? Why do my sexual tastes bother you? Bonus: So nothing a person has done sexually before your relationship begins has validity or bearing to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/16 07:38 PM
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If abortion were outlawed, then the underlying logic would become 'consent to sex= consent to parenthood', and it would be fair/reasonable to require child support. The only x factor would be whether a woman is allowed to unilaterally put a child up for adoption/walk away without the father's consent.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/16 05:13 PM
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But as long as the other person puts in serious effort I'm okay with it. "I can't do this, but i CAN do THIS" is a way better attitude than "Oh, I can't do this, so I'm just giving up on you". This is my thought on the matter precisely, and it's something I don't think some people here fully grasp. If I wanted anal, and she refuses to do it for whatever reason, I can live with that, as long as she sucks d*ck or f@cks so good/so often I don't miss it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/16 05:08 PM
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Attractive Has her sh*t reasonably together. Sense of humor Sexual compatibility Intelligence Joint ambition
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/16 04:05 PM
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Status/Game/Looks You need 2 out of 3 to be successful in a nightclub. Status: Be associated with the fun. Someone who is important to the existing fun, or adds more fun. The easy mode on this is to be a regular who is well known/liked by the staff. This gives you social proof. A tougher but more rewarding route is to be staff, whether security, bar-back (won't start as a bartender at your age), or a DJ/entertainment. Personally, I go the bouncer route. You control the flow of the fun, have an i…
/r/askTRP25/03/16 02:59 PM
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Your physical features are fine, unless you've left out some quasimodo-esque deformity. Your height and income put you in prime position, particularly for your age bracket. Start putting yourself out there.
/r/askTRP25/03/16 02:11 PM
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There's that word again. Should
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/16 02:44 PM
2

Depends if you already have a stable job and a cash flow or are flat broke trying to come up with $10 to not starve this week.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/16 02:12 PM
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No.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/16 06:12 PM
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I process a lot of this information subconsciously, it's an impression I get from some women, similar to how some men come off as gay.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/16 03:47 PM
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No. But it's worth noting that you have to stoop down to SMV 1-2 woman to find the equivalent experience of inceldom that plenty of SMV 5-6 men go through.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/16 02:38 PM
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Looks are either all that matter, or only a little, depending on the man's SMV. Looks matter a little: Women look at more factors than men do and consistently weigh things like personality and stability higher than physical attractiveness, whereas men consider attractiveness more important and consider fewer factors. This means that male attractiveness is (for practical purposes) more of a binary position than the women's scaled attractiveness. Put basically, if there are three men, a 6, 7,& 8, …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/16 01:52 PM
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Rising tide lifts all ships.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/16 02:30 PM
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Anger can be channeled constructively, but regardless of whether it's constructive or not it doesn't change the presence of the feeling. Denying anger or saying things like 'You shouldn't be angry' or 'You have no right to feel angry about this.' is about as useful in alleviating anger as telling a woman to 'calm down' is to her serenity. The TRP 'Anger Phase' I think has use as a sort of hard reset on how a man interacts with women. It hits the pedestal with a sledgehammer and causes it to come…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/16 03:18 AM
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Not FA, but sometimes felt that way when I was younger. For a lot of these guys it's sort of a chicken and egg problem. A guy gets rejected a few times consecutively and it hits his confidence, he puts less effort in to dating/ being attractive because experience tells him the investment has a low ROI, which leads to even more failure, which leads to less effort, etc, etc, ad infinitum. The good news is the cycle can be broken, but it requires either sheer dumb luck (for an individual becoming i…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/16 03:02 AM
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Also the difference between bending the comfort zone and breaking it.
/r/TheRedPill15/03/16 07:49 PM
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Why is it that so many guys, even guys who have never heard of the red pill, refer to having sex with a woman as "slaying" her or their own partner count as their "body count"? I have literally never heard a man use the term 'slaying p*ssy' unironically. I suspect you are getting your information from either high school kids or 80's TV shows.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/16 03:10 PM
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Some Blues have legitimately become Purples or even Reds from our discussions. Some people who qualify as Blues call themselves Purple, or give themselves fancy designations like Black, Pink, or Non pill. I'm not sure why this is, but maybe it's an attempt to project reasonableness and define their viewpoint as moderate. As is often pointed out, TBP is a 'satire' sub. There purpose is exclusively to mock, and therefore won't generally add much to the debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/16 02:59 PM
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If it were actually my biological child, I would want as close to equal parenting as possible. If I have equal time with the child, I wouldn't think child support would be necessary. If it still is necessary even with equal time, maybe I should have primary custody and she should pay child support...
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/16 08:49 PM
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She's not a virgin, but her N-count is 0.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/16 02:55 PM
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I've never heard these people complain about the far greater sums we already spend on other people's kids: public education, public health, subsidized meals and daycare, etc. And on top of that we don't have a special parent tax to ensure most of these burdens fall on parents, indeed we have special and significant tax credits for parents such that nonparents end up paying more to raise those kids per person. There is quite a bit of complaint/discussion on the need for the reform of this system.…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/16 02:44 PM
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No, but if you're the sorority bj queen and talk about your virginity or 'purity', I will laugh at you. Handjobs don't count. Yes Yes Yes Yes, if it's penetrative. Yes No, unless you're a gay dude. But the same rule as the BJ question applies.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/16 04:37 PM
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Fakeness is another one of those popular critiques women make when they can't possibly argue a girl is unattractive. Definitely not fat from these pictures.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/16 08:11 PM
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Women definitely judge women's appearance more harshly. A lot of this has to do with competition, and some of it is just that women are expected to look good, by both men and women. People confuse 'Appearance matters more to men' with 'Men judge appearance more harshly' That's simply not the case. We mentally compare relative attractiveness, but for practical purposes a woman just needs to the boner test to be hot enough for a ONS. EDIT: and PS that girl looks hot. Proportioned a little odd from…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/16 04:01 PM
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The gap between the girls' thighs isn't where most men are looking i'm sure. My guess is most men are looking an inch or two higher...
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/16 03:12 PM
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Don't f*ck a good friends current or ex SO (Unless it's been at least a year and he's seeing someone else equally or more seriously.) Don't steal an LTR girl unless the guy is a douche or she was going to leave him soon anyways. No direct lying.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/16 07:11 PM
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It's not a father or a brother or a friend's business who a female is sleeping with. If she ruins her life by sleeping around, oh well, that's her life to ruin. So if your family member or friend was doing something that you understood to be harmful to them you wouldn't speak up?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/16 03:44 PM
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In entirety across genders, if your SO vocally wants you to do something you did in a previous relationship, you at the very least owe them an explanation about why you no longer do that thing. You also have the freedom to determine whether that's good enough, and leave if it isn't. Keep in mind though that many of the traits and actions RP men drop are beta behaviors, and an overuse of beta behaviors is probably what caused him to lose that last relationship by becoming less attractive. So basi…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/16 02:37 PM
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Other than the religious and other moral conservative types, who, by the transitive property, are irrelevant to this discussion, because they care about both men and women being promiscuous, I think the vast majority of men do not care how many men any given adult women sleeps with. They do however care how many men the women in their life sleep with. They care about how many men their wife has slept with, or if his sister/friend is about to make herself unmarriageable to a large swath of qualit…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/16 02:23 PM
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The problem is there are several folks who argue that learning sexual strategies or anything that comes from TRP is by definition immoral. Of course there is and should be a moral aspect when judging whether or not to take an action, but to immediately label all talk of a certain field immoral is even more absurd than claiming actions taken are amoral. In my view the information is generally amoral. It is the action that has a moral component. TRP leaves it up to the individual's own moral code …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/16 03:08 PM
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i. Yes ii. 'Sexist' is viewing the sexes as inherently different. Misogyny is thinking all women are inferior to men due to not having dangly parts. iii. You can object to anything you want. I think it's silly to deny that men and women are different. I think it's a plainly observable fact, but people object to all sorts of stupid things nowadays.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/16 04:21 PM
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Figure out the angles/positions that work best with your equipment.
/r/askTRP29/02/16 04:05 PM
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Basically yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/16 05:26 PM
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Not if she can do the job and maintain the feminine characteristics I find attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/16 03:15 PM
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I always find myself in a rut in February. I don't know if it's the weather, lack of sun, or that those two things reduce my area's culture to drinking heavily and binge watching netflix. I'm trying vitamin D supplements, heavier exercise, getting my diet on point, basically everything I can think of. The worst thing by far is it kills my vibe, and makes me go off instinct and into my own head.
/r/TheRedPill23/02/16 06:23 PM
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Does a sex drive still exist? If so, than no. If a sex drive didn't exist, it'd be very different. People don't always understand how much getting sex/romantic love drives men. What would replace that force?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/16 09:29 PM
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That's likely because you value low n more than you value knowing if someone is cheating on you. ... I can extrapolate the likelihood that she has cheated or is likely to cheat. Whether she has cheated is the more important information... Realistically, I don't care if she cheated on someone else, I care how likely she is to cheat on me. I think an N count would give me a better picture of what I was dealing with.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/16 09:24 PM
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N count. With that, I can extrapolate the likelihood that she has cheated or is likely to cheat. Whether she has cheated is the more important information, but By being told her N count, I can estimate a bigger body of info.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/16 06:12 PM
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That's my general plan.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/16 03:47 PM
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I think the difference here is between a lie and salesmanship. A lie is patently untrue, and intended specifically to deceive. These can range from potentially dangerous (i.e, lying about an STD or birth control use), to 'white' lies, which anyone who has been in public at all ever should know many/most people tell in some way to get sex (i.e, Exaggerating the size of your dick or wearing chicken cutlets in your bra.) Makeup, push up bras, suits, are all salesmanship. They're methods designed to…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/16 03:42 PM
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Tumblr feminism, an over abundance of 'just happened', consistent poor judgement based on how someone/thing "made them feel", etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/16 09:23 PM
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In terms of character, entitlement is the worst. Aggressive lack of agency is a distant #2. Physically, FUPAs, facial hair, and really bad teeth are the severest no-gos for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/16 07:38 PM
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Oh wow you want an involved response. I'll edit this later if I can, but generally it's a split, ONS I find body more important, but for an LTR a pretty face takes precedence. Great eyes>DSLs and Ass>Tits, but shape and perkiness are more important than size for both. Weight itself is generally a non factor as long as I can pick her up, but a hip:waist ratio of <1 is a deal breaker.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/16 04:20 PM
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Probably would be a corresponding level of involuntary celibacy. So a gang bang would affect a chick's value the same way virginity affected a man's (talking mid 20's+ here), and only getting laid once by 27 would translate to a woman who by age 27 f*cked her way into the triple digits.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/16 03:13 PM
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Reading between the lines, I think a better way of wording OP's concern might be 'Why should a woman receive alimony if she files for divorce, and it is considered "no fault"?' Alimony can be reasonable when applied in a very limited and temporary way, but it does seem an odd sort of perverse incentive that a woman can file for a no fault divorce and still receive a payout from it. I assume OP's position is that if someone files for divorce, and it's found/assumed no fault, they shouldn't be all…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/16 03:03 PM
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I don't know how or why this format works, but a few people have gone from blue to 'purple' or 'purple' to red from reading these discussions.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/16 02:18 PM
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I enjoy debate. Also marketing.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/16 05:45 AM
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I determine what matters and whats relevant to me in a relationship, no one else. Anyone who disagrees with this is being foolish to try and hide past mistakes.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/16 09:49 PM
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I totally agree with you We're all shocked... /s
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/16 07:35 PM
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I'd say 16, but charges of statutory still be viable if the court can prove a participant under 18 was given alcohol by their partner. Also misrepresenting oneself as legally of age to consent and/or drink & consent should be an affirmative defense.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/16 07:32 PM
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Find a quality man and LTR him. Accept that certain men won't date her if she has a high N-count and date other men who don't have that requirement. Have a non-relationship FWB to supply sex when not romantically involved while keeping her N-count down.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/16 07:22 PM
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Many of the longest term ECs and Mods are under 30. The game pieces and point scoring may change but the game is still basically the same. Maybe be a little smarter about who you're condescending to next time.
/r/TheRedPill17/02/16 06:29 PM
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I think you're looking at 2 very different types of caring. Let me give you how this usually tends to go down: BPW: Why are you RP men forcing women to live this way!?!?! RP: We aren't. No one is compelled to live this way, it's just the way I'd want my partner to behave and I wouldn't want to date a woman that does not behave this way. BPW: But I behave in other way, and I like it. RP: I don't care. You're confusing caring about something as your personal life vs. caring about the personal life…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/16 05:53 PM
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'Nice' is meaningless as it's generally used. It's basically saying that, to you, an individual lacks any defining or really positive traits, but is not so objectionable that you feel it's acceptable to actually insult them. Generally, if someone describes a person as 'nice', I take it as a synonym for boring.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/16 05:23 PM
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"Your dieting advice board is useless, I mostly see fat people trying to lose weight there." At least try to be clever.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/16 08:22 PM
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This is called the Coolidge Effect.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/16 04:22 PM
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Less opportunity for passive social interaction. Nowadays people interact with their smartphone, their laptop, and a core group of friends/family to the exclusion of everyone else. Our society has become borderline autistic in terms of face to face social interaction. Even women are effected here.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/16 04:17 PM
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Wouldn't "be yourself" and "put yourself out there" be sufficient advice given this phenomenon? Not if the goal is to maximize success. Same thing with obesity. Yes, there are some fat fetishists out there who conceivably find a morbidly obese person sexy, and losing weight would most likely decrease their attraction to you, but you would become more attractive to the vast majority of potential mates, meaning that getting in shape is a good strategy to maximize sexual success.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/16 04:04 PM
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Can y'all start defining what you mean by date please? ONS/STR: Hot n Crazy LTR: Stable n Average
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/16 03:22 PM
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you should break up with a women if you start to have feelings for her, using women for anything other than sex is dangerous and should be discouraged. Could you cite these last two? These don't seem common at all. TRP discusses sex and women without the romanticism in a way that still isn't common anywhere. As such some posters try to guard against encroachment of common issues that permeate discussions like these, such as the Women are Wonderful Effect. The Mods assume that everyone at TRP bas…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/16 03:18 PM
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A simple real step might be to decriminalize or legalize and regulate prostitution. It doesn't fix everything, but it gives those who have no access to sex an option that doesn't involve slipping into rage and depression.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/16 08:12 PM
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The extent of that phenomena.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/16 05:13 PM
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Because I don't want to get into some idiot debate about whether someone would f*ck grandma. When we do discussions like this, most people know full well which women i'm talking about, but there's always one or two who decide to be Capt. Obtuse about the whole thing and derail.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/16 08:32 PM
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I'm in a pretty white bread area so I think I'd generally be okay with it as long as she kept it private. It would also depend why and what kind of racist she was. Paternal racism is different than hateful racism, as is segregationist racism different from genocidal racism. Culturalism is also different and might meet your view of racism.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/16 08:16 PM
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Interesting. Your numbers are very high compared to most of the women that have responded, and are in the range for males. Any thoughts on why this might be?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/16 08:04 PM
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70% 45% 55%
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/16 07:59 PM
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Ok. If you're a guy that might be sort of a foreign concept to you because you may just have the opportunity to have sex with a hot girl and take it. It is pretty foreign, though I do understand the concept. I was just clarifying your number because you added women to your total, which made it look a bit more confusing. I'm curious, do you see anything odd about saying that 45% of men are unattractive and 50% are average? Mathematically speaking, that'd mean your 5% would have to be 11/10 hot. W…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/16 07:57 PM
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For clarity sake I'm going to try to restate your math. Average-ish men are 50% The breakdown of men of non average attractiveness is 90-10 unattractive to attractive. That would leave 5%. The rest is all non physical factors. So you're saying 5% of men you encounter/see in your life are attractive enough to have sex with? is that number the same for dating?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/16 07:47 PM
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but is the reason you wouldn't associate yourself/commit because of their looks? For some, yes. Most women who get weeded out dating wise do so for personality factors, but there are enough for physical stuff that it isn't a perfect 1:1.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/16 07:24 PM
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this is a weird question because if someone passes the attractiveness threshold, then they're attractive enough to ask out. I see the logic there, but I don't agree. There are quite a few women I would have sex with, but would not be willing to associate myself with/commit to long term.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/16 07:04 PM
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I edited the post above to try to clarify. A purely sex thread wouldn't work due to the number of "I don't do ons" non-answers every sex thread gets. I also think it's well established that to be considered for a relationship, one must meet a certain level of physical attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/16 06:49 PM
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M, Red Single, mid 20's. I think it's important how you're defining friends. I have a fairly large social circle, partially as a result of working in nightlife, but a small core group of close friends. Extrovert who generally dislikes people. The core group is all male. Then there are 'work friends', which aren't super close but are closer than just a coworker, but not so close that we actively socialize on our own. If we both happen to be at a bar, we'd probably hang out together for a bit, but…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/16 05:50 PM
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Humans are lazy, rejection hurts, so it is simply EASIER to be nice and hope the other person reciprocates your feelings eventually. That can certainly be a part of it, but I think a lot of young guys internalize this odd view of male sexuality as inherently 'dirty', or that it's wrong of you to try to ask out a woman purely on physical attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 07:01 PM
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Fair enough. I'm trying to cleverly draw people into explaining the actual harm it causes, since mostly when you ask what's wrong with TRP people say it's manipulative or hurts their feelings the way some TRPers think.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 05:47 PM
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Themes and fantasies can help, but they don't in any way change that the hot girl being f*cked is 1,000,000% more important than the setting. For instance, given the choice between watching Faye Reagan have completely non sequitur sex or watching an actual teacher do it, all guys will choose the hot body over the story telling.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 05:15 PM
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Also going up to a girl and making a convo just get her number isn't a horrible thing to do, But somehow many guys are conditioned to think it is. That was the hardest thing for me to unlearn, and I know a lot of guys who struggle with that misunderstanding.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 04:34 PM
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"Sex is like air it's not important unless you aren't getting any."
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 03:27 PM
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The version where they aren't attacked. How is this worth discussing?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 06:17 PM
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Careful not to cut yourself on all that edge.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 04:51 PM
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See conversation below this one...
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 04:35 PM
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Getting it out of the way, Cheating is bad. M'kay? good. It's a matter of weighed consequences. There are 4 possible scenarios: You don't tell her, she doesn't find out. You do tell her, she wouldn't have found out. You don't tell her, she does find out. You do tell her, she would've found out anyways. The best scenario for you is #1, the worst is #3 (being both a liar and a cheater). #4 is probably your 2nd best chance, because you don't shoot yourself in the foot and aren't a liar. The best co…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 04:32 PM
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See that's what I don't understand. Why do rights vote so selfish? What's selfish is a burger flipper or woman voting Left to get a pay increase, when it will grow government and consequently take more out of my wallet to pay for it. My approach isn't selfish. I think a minimum wage increase helps no one beyond the very short term and there isn't a reputable economist in the past 15 years that believes in the gender wage gap. I think I and America in general are better off when all people earn w…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 04:11 PM
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The American left has been co-opted by feminists and SJWs near completely. Let me give you an example: Political radio ads are meant to be 30 second spots where candidates talk in broad strokes about what they will do for you, usually 3-5 points. The end goal should be "Those things would help me, I should vote for this person." See if you can spot the change over the past couple decades... Clinton '92: Improve education. Create jobs. Cut govt waste. Clinton '16: $12-15/hr minimum wage Equal pay…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 03:34 PM
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His body was not touch or invaded or violated. Unless of course he gets thrown in debtor's prison for not being able to pay child support. More to the point, under your definition of bodily autonomy, a slaves autonomy isn't de facto violated?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 03:13 PM
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How do you think he makes the money to pay the child support? With the fruits of his labor, either physical or mental. What do you call it when you are compelled to work for the profit of another, and are thrown in jail if you don't pay a sufficient amount? If he had to give 100% of his money to her, we'd call it slavery. If he had to give money directly to a richer individual we'd call it serfdom, in either instance the other (she) is profiting off the labor of the individual (him) without cons…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 02:52 PM
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In our current environment where abortion is legal, safe, and arguably publicly subsidized, a woman who cannot support a child either on her own or with resources willingly given by the father should either terminate the pregnancy or have the child adopted. It's always fascinating to me how the pro-choice crowd uses the same argument against financial abortion that pro-lifers use against actual abortion. If having sex = choosing to 'pay the costs' of a potential pregnancy, then we should be cons…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 02:44 PM
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It is when the disrespect is transferred over to PPD.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/16 08:02 PM
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I hope that you're not one of the Red Pillers who has complained about the TRP ridicule on /r/TheBluePill in the past. You're confusing 'niceness' with 'decorum'. If you take part in a debate you are expected to behave a certain way and treat your opponent with a certain baseline level of respect and good faith. It's why debater never refute their opponents by saying "Shut up, you f*ckwit."
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/16 06:32 PM
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Is it wrong for a woman to expect a man to be nice to her if she has sex with him? Is it wrong for a man to expect a woman to have sex with him if he is nice to her? Sex and niceness have a nonexistent exchange rate. No one is owed or entitled to one because they provide the other. In a perfect world, maybe there'd be a correlation, but there isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/16 06:22 PM
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Masturbation is like any other instant gratification based hobby. It's fine in moderation and sometimes even beneficial as stress relief, but if it starts taking precedence over the things that are real in your life you should tone it down.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/16 06:17 PM
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Of course there can. The part everyone seems to object to is that Red Pill gives you facts and let's you build your own ethics to determine how best to use that knowledge. Just because you know that doing A, B, & C will make you more likely to be successful with a girl doesn't mean you have to do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/16 03:00 PM
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"Sorry I tried that once. Not a fan." 'That's a shame.'
/r/TheRedPill01/02/16 06:49 PM
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No.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/16 06:15 PM
1

Christian Grey if he was good with kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/16 06:14 PM
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"Hey guys, how come all these rappers and football players choose this type of woman, when they are all otherwise well known for their intellect and decision making skills?"
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/16 06:13 PM
1

Men are generally right wing compared to women. Studies have been circling for a while, and it looks like high test correlates with radical political self interest, but not necessarily conservatism. If your a black kid from a single parent home, high test would (theoretically) make you more radically left, since that's the team that's giving you more stuff. It's easy to confuse self interest with inherently right wing in the US because the American left stopped offering anything of value to empl…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/16 03:52 PM
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Sinbad: He's just doing him, it's not his job to protect Abbi's purity. Tom: He didn't ask her to f*ck a guy to come to him, he didn't even ask her to come to him. It sucks to 'fight' for someone and have them push you away, but he's within his right, especially if they were together and she slept with Sinbad without asking Tom first. Abigale: She should have talked to Tom, and she slept with another guy, but she gets redemption points for being upfront and honest with Tom about it. I'm also tak…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/16 05:47 PM
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Cultural conditioning.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/16 02:51 PM
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I don't really think it will encourage obesity, except insofar as barbie miniatures are sold with Happy Meals. I've never understood the argument that Barbie is 'unrealistic', I know several girls with a 'barbie build', so unless we're saying it in the way that all dolls/ action figures are unrealistic, I think we are being nonsensical. Barbie is a play toy and a fantasy object. Of course she has a body type in the 'ideal', it's fantasy. Similar to how G.I.Joe has served for over 50 years withou…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/16 02:46 PM
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Be Gaston, ignore Belle, have 4 way with the triplets from the pub.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/16 07:45 PM
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I'd be annoyed by the 'sneaky' portion of it. The fact she's secretive about means it's something she thinks I would/should be upset about, otherwise why keep it a secret? I also think it cheats me (and her) of my ability to learn her specifics to bang her the best way possible for both of us.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/16 04:34 PM
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I'm going to ignore the socialization aspect (the 'be yourself', the dad-bod hype, the fact that our media reinforces hot girl/average dude incessantly) and focus on how each of these views of male attractiveness is true from a certain male point of view. I'll also tie them together into a cohesive view. Looks matter less: Important to note, no one actually thinks looks "don't matter", rather, they think women place less value than men on the physical attractiveness of a partner. And that's tech…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/16 03:50 PM
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Define 'date'? Plate: Sure. Fling: Yes. LTR: Not saying never, but she'd have to really hit it out of the park on almost every other factor. Marry: Nope.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/16 04:10 PM
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TRP expands the C/FO logic to dating as well, as in men should must go looking after women and women should wait until men approaches them. It's not about should, men approaching and women being passive is the way it works. Plus, since women are the gatekeepers, they have the option of saying no to a bad fit.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/16 03:07 PM
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and that's why a woman should do the leg work to make sure she's with a good man that makes a good 'captain', meaning he a.) Is intelligent and usually right, and b.) Is willing to listen to her and stash his ego enough when she is correct. I always find it amusing that the first objection to a C/FO relationship model is "but what if he's stupid or doesn't ever listen to me!?" as if women are assigned an LTR. It's on you to be in a relationship with a quality man. If a woman can't pick a decent …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/16 02:36 PM
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"Work for free against your will because you're too privileged." Seems like he'll really learn whatever lesson in compassion you're thrusting at him. If you ever need your privilege checked, I actually have some painting I need done for free.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/16 07:13 PM
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You do you until you try to intrude on my life or harm someone I care about.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/16 03:13 PM
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Depends on the women. Different factors: Look/Smell of the pussy. 'Lawn' maintenance General hygiene How responsive she is (A lot of girls turn in to a twitching puddle of moans if you do it right, so that's fun.)
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/16 03:12 PM
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Nothing wins hearts and minds like compulsory volunteerism. After all, look how much black Americans love white Southerners now...
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/16 02:53 PM
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Note: TRP is male advice for men. RPwomen would be the place for people to ask. That said, I'll give you my personal take. Talk to him. This is the most important part. Most men are not in fact psychic, and a lot of us aren't too good with women's little passive aggressive 'cues', so actually make sure he knows something is wrong. Be brutally honest with yourself about the situation. Challenge the assumptions in your list above. Are you actually good looking? (Do you wear make up? Do you put the…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/16 02:45 PM
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Jealousy is beta, true possessiveness is alpha, because it's built on confidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/16 05:21 PM
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Probably ~67%. Remove the obese, the old, and the actively ugly, and the rest of them are at least okay looking. I may not put much effort in to pursue them, but if I had the opportunity to easily and discretely put it in, I probably would. ~25%.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/16 03:12 PM
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I think people should be equal before the law. That means we have an equal right to vote, be fairly represented, trial by jury, and equal rights to (our own) life, liberty and property. It also means we should have equal obligations under the law, such as taxes, or selective service.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/16 03:21 PM
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Based on my observation/experience, women don't see men they don't at least consider baseline sexually attractive 'as men' for sex/dating purposes. But once a basic level of attraction is established, looks become less important. So a woman will probably choose a charming and witty 7 over a 8 that's a wad, and say she values personality over looks, but that ignores all the men who are < 6s who have no chance with her regardless of how charming or witty they may be.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/16 03:17 PM
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My ideal that's running currently is Rand Paul. I like the idea of cutting spending and not being a police state that spies on it's own people. Trump or Rubio are my backup choices, but I'd support most of the Republicans over the Democrats. If I did vote D I'd support Sanders over Clinton.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/16 04:33 PM
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1 of 3 acceptable instances for a man to cry.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/16 09:41 PM
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I'm in a good place. I don't know if I'd say I'm 'happy' or 'content', because I get bored if I'm not improving, and you can't be content if you always want to be better.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/16 08:31 PM
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Of course I feel bad for them. It doesn't change that the deliberately choose these traits/refuse to leave those who exhibit them, but I still pity these women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/16 08:09 PM
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I like the spirit of this one, but it runs up against the (American) Constitutionally guaranteed freedom of the press in the 1st amendment.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/16 08:01 PM
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Most of your ideology is about heterosexual relationships and it involves a tremendous amount of generalizing the behaviors of men and women, and especially the way they interact with their partners. That's because we're only really interested in relationships (loose term) with heterosexual women. Gay dudes don't interest us and we won't interest lesbians, so as a whole, TRP doesn't give either group much thought. We do have a sub for that one though, /r/AltTRP. How does your belief on this subj…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/16 03:19 PM
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I'll give you one example (but there are plenty more): Men can't hit a woman, women can hit men. If a man hits a woman in public, other men will defend her. If a woman hits a man in public, other men will defend her. Because I understand you probably didn't read that part or you'd have addressed it....
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/16 04:13 PM
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I like how easily you dismiss all those issues men face. I'd point to that as evidence of a cultural trend where we ignore problems men face yet host a walk-a-thon every time a woman gets a boo boo, but i'm guessing you wouldn't discuss that in good faith. Homelessness. Men are overwhelmingly more likely to be homeless, and most resources for the poor/indigent/homeless are directed towards women. Poor women consume a disproportionate amount of available social welfare resources, leaving men with…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/16 04:11 PM
1

I love it when radicals eat their own. It's a big part of why the American Right held the presidency for 20/24 years after the sixties (Would've been 24/24 if not for Watergate).
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/16 04:01 PM
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Thanks for being specific. The 'teenager' thing is admittedly heavy handed language. But I think if you read the rest of RPS's comment it becomes clear what the real point is; I think it's pretty easy to see that men have a weakness: they lose it over hot women. Absolutely lose it. It's a trope that's on television and in movies. You see them just jaw-drop and go bonkers when they see a woman they like. All logic and reason is out the window, they'll do almost anything for them. Well, our societ…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/16 03:49 PM
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Because when you say 'men AND women have it hard in X way.', then you cease to have a social movement, just a shitty, universal truth that X is difficult. Feminists do this as well. When they say "Women have it tough in the workplace.", what they mean is "Women have it tough(er than men) in the workplace. Otherwise they're just saying the workplace is tough for everyone and doesn't that suck oh well let's get back to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/16 07:47 PM
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It depends on the man. The kind, 5'6", pudgy, mid level accountant at a big 3 firm has a higher RMV than SMV. The 6'2" minor DJ/dealer has a much higher SMV than RMV. RMV traits are basically 'Good Husband' traits. I hesitate to call them 'beta' traits because of how most here would misunderstand the term, but RMV traits display comfort and security. As a final note, RMV traits don't automatically translate to one's RMV value. Instead, RMV value is RMT(x), where x is the binary answer to the que…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/16 06:16 PM
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I'd prefer answer #5, if she added on "one of those was a girl." that'd probably be optimal, but answer #5 is sufficient. Let me reverse the script and give you how I'd respond (in my head) to each answer; Yes it is. If i'm asking, that means i'm considering you for something more than fwb, and I want to know what I'm getting involved with. You're avoiding the question, which probably means your ashamed of how high it is, and your attitude sucks. I'm going to drop this topic, and then probably d…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/16 05:02 PM
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If a guy is drunk and horny, being 30+ doesn't really affect a woman's chances.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/16 04:29 PM
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I'd like to see non TRP individuals make a strong assertion about an aspect of dating/sex/culture that they specifically disagree with TRP on and debate that. It seems like a lot of 'I disagree with TRP' threads come down to "TRP is meeeeaaaannnnn and hurts my feelings." Building off this, I would like people to attempt to engage each other somewhat in good faith. Specifically, I'd like BP folks to address the efficacy of different tactics/concepts they object to (Dread/LMR/etc.), rather than re…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/16 03:01 PM
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Especially completely new people who have literally just heard of TRP. Don't read the TRP sidebar or any of the threads here or at /r/TRP, just give us your 'take' based on your immediate first impressions based on what someone said in /r/relationships or TwoX.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/16 02:43 PM
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We should also have thinly veiled insult threads which claim themselves as legitimate questions but really boil down to 'When will TRPers stop beating/raping their wives/gfs?' I especially want these to include "[serious question]" in the title because that's a magical phrase that makes sh*posts quality just by adding it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/16 02:40 PM
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I think the capability is fairly well known or at least suspected, but it's dismissed with NAWALT and justifications based on how divorce/marriage 'used' to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/16 04:20 PM
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Nope. I'm pretty white.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/16 09:06 PM
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It's a variety based on which 'hat' I'm wearing. Generally, I do well with the types of women that are attracted to strength and/or status. I don't do so well with women that like 'pretty' men, or men that are more 'street'.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/16 07:01 PM
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Giving a reputation is one of my favorite influence techniques to use. "This is a complex proposal, but I know you have the vision to be interested in something like this." "She's so uptight, that's one of the things I like about you, you know when to let your hair down and have some fun."
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/16 05:40 PM
1

Red something maybe? /r/RedTwoX ?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/16 05:20 PM
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would it make you happy forever? No. But it'd be like having a nice car or a lifetime supply of pizza, wouldn't solve all my problems, but it'd still be nicer than not.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/16 03:26 PM
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If you're giving a compliment with the end goal of dating/sleeping with a woman it needs to have value attached to it. To have value it needs to have two factors in your favor; Sincerity: People can feel a fake compliment. It sounds different, and carries a different energy that anyone remotely paying attention can sense. Value: Your words have to carry weight. This means you should be selective about what/when you compliment, and try to say it in a way other guys don't. It goes without saying t…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/16 03:05 PM
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Cancel the wedding. Cancel the European Honeymoon Buy an investment property, not a house in the burbs. Look how much your cash flow opened up by dropping just a little dead weight.
/r/TheRedPill07/01/16 06:25 PM
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Betas are socially necessary. Without the beta, you'd have a society of Generals, Gang leaders, Chads, and CEOs, but no privates, workers, or Bobs to subsidize/raise Chad's many illegitimate children. Alpha males contribute the vision and drive to create, conquer, and innovate in our society, but it's the betas who provide the labor to actually build and sustain the world the alphas create. Incidentally, this is why eugenics fails. It sounds intelligent to cull the weak from the herd on paper, b…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/16 04:32 PM
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This is objectively a case of someone deliberately misrepresenting who/what she is and no reasonable person would say Tyga is to blame at all. So he'll probably lose the suit and be protested by feminists.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/16 04:14 PM
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A better example of this might be crying. When you are having a discussion/argument with a woman and she reacts to a point by crying, it is socially expected for the man to retract his point, if not concede the argument all together. Men have no such protection and indeed often lose ground by reacting emotionally to a point.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/16 04:12 PM
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Most of the people who made fun of me when I was a kid were guys. It sounds like you were/are too soft to appreciate male friendships. A big part of the way men bond is insulting each other and ripping on each other for a variety of reasons. What if I decided to open up and say I might be bisexual? If I told most guys I was bisexual, they'd probably condemn me as a "faggot". On of my best friends is gay. When he came out a few years back, our group made gay jokes at his expense pretty constantly…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/16 04:07 PM
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I'm generally a sum of the parts guy, but if I had to choose between 9/10 ass and ok boobs, or 9/10 boobies and a so-so ass, I'd choose great ass, ok tits. I was definitely a tit guy when I was younger, but that's changed over the years. I also prefer good shape and bounce over size in either case.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/16 08:17 PM
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Your question doesn't make sense. The fact that I don't give my love to every woman who give me access to her pussy doesn't mean I can't/don't have feelings for women who are worthy of those feelings. Affection perhaps, as one would feel for your dog, Affection is a genuine feeling.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/16 09:37 PM
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Strongly disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/15 06:39 PM
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Similar for women who have an obsession with moving to 'Cali!' or L.A.
/r/TheRedPill31/12/15 05:17 PM
3

But you still have a better shot than if you were 5'6".
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/15 02:13 AM
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Yes. The romantic benefits of being taller for men are obvious,and studies have consistently shown a career/salary benefit for taller men as well. I don't really see the career benefits in being jacked. Anecdotally, I can tell you that a doughy 6'2" guy will usually have more success with women than a jacked 5'6" guy. Both may get laid, but the tall guy usually has an easier time/broader selection.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/15 09:52 PM
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In terms of social capital, it's not as useful as being tall, but more useful than being jacked.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/15 09:40 PM
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Most of our hard wiring is outdated. Human evolution makes us very good for surviving 5,000 years ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/15 07:45 PM
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I'm going to split the question and say that finding a woman you love and want to spend your life with (and vice-versa) is a rewarding experience and in a perfect world everyone would find such a person. Sticking the state into your private affairs, however, is never a good idea and can only harm you.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/15 06:56 PM
5

Define fat?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/15 05:44 PM
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This is true, but don't forget, a '98 civic with a half tank of gas will get you where you need to be faster than a sports car running on fumes.
/r/TheRedPill30/12/15 04:40 PM
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No. Though perhaps it'd be a better discussion if you said why?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/15 04:16 PM
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No one fucking cares about your adult sex life. Seriously. No one fucking cares. The majority of replies here seem to show that many women do fucking care.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/15 06:02 AM
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I'll trade you 'cuck' for 'terp/twerp'. In the realm of lazy put down/insults to round out shitposts, that's the most annoying one to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/15 04:08 AM
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An involuntary virgin can appear totally fine and normal on the outside while on the inside he's tormented in a living hell. I agree, but I think that's basically a chicken/egg problem. The incel is emotionally tormented by feelings of loneliness and a lack of love/desire, which makes it harder to get laid, which makes his emotional state worse, etc, etc, ad infinitum. That to me isn't something wrong with him, it's more he had bad luck that snowballed and he's reacting emotionally in a way most…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/15 09:56 PM
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I think if a guy hasn't had sex by the time he's 25, something went wrong somewhere. Do you think that translates to something wrong with him?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/15 09:29 PM
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Mostly, but a few emotions were very related if not synonymous.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/15 09:25 PM
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32. M/mid-20s/USA I also think it's fairly cheap to ask people to discern whether a person feels 'guilty' or 'embarrassed' based on a narrow view of eyes.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/15 08:28 PM
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I don't think the advice is just for men. Women and gay men may apply TRP tactics and principles and experience success, but you are not our audience. If you've benefited that's great, but our advice is intended for men who want more success with women. Anyone else who finds benefit is a pleasant bonus.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/15 06:01 PM
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TRP is a guide that gives advice to men, what women are 'supposed' to do is for RPW and others to discuss. TRP is here to give advice to men. There's a big difference between following blindly and trusting in a partner whom you've selected, and will value your input. Hypocrisies abound, especially in the dating world. It's a fact of life and a waste of energy to complain about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/15 02:51 PM
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Eh. Granted I haven't read through the new stuff posted in a few hours, but most of the responses to this type of question usually count some sort of genital penetration, which I think is a fair metric for people who aren't Bill Clinton.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/15 01:59 AM
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What do you mean "Unless"? You should try hitting up Catholic girls? Yeah, that's basically what I mean. I count "F#ck me in the ass!" differently from "I'm saving my vagina for marriage, but you can f#ck me in the ass." Granted, you can't always tell, but when I can I'd count them differently.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/15 01:54 AM
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It was sarcasm. I responded to Grid's semi sarcastic suggestion that RP guys count everything against the N.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/15 10:30 PM
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If you're a low to average man in the United States, it's the 3-5 minute period during that one frat party where the hot girls have been fed enough shots to have no standards but not so many they pass out. If you're an exceptional man, death. It's a range with most guys somewhere in between.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/15 08:58 PM
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Gangbangs count as 1!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/15 08:03 PM
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If there is touching of genitals, it counts as something. Obviously a BJ counts less than PiV, but it still counts. To me, anal counts more than PiV, unless it's done for the purposes of maintaining 'virginity'. Gays don't concern me at all and lesbian sex count roughly the same as straight sex. I think it's belaboring what should be a pretty simple point to assign an actual numerical value to everything, but if you absolutely need one, I'd probably say; PiV= 1 BJ/TJ= 0.5 HJ= .1
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/15 08:02 PM
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For these answers I'm assuming an short term relationship or more, as an ONS is only really required to have a vagina and a pulse. Pretty eyes or DSLs (both is better, but at least one is required) Height between 5' and 5'10". (I'm 5'8", I want a girl I don't have to work too hard to kiss.) An ass that gives me a strong urge to grab/slap/bite. Feminine curves. I don't really care if the curves are graceful or voluptuous, but there must be curves. Under 165. (Frankly, some of my best stuff involv…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/15 05:13 PM
1

I think that because we are so effective, some of the tools and strategies we give could be applied in an immoral manner.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/15 03:31 PM
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I don't know what the percentage actually is, but I do know that these incidents get cited in certain rape 'statistics' that lead us to the absurd 1 in 3 talking point. I think the better question here is do you (all) consider it legitimate to count unsubstantiated claims in official statistics? and as a follow up, what should the standard of evidence be before it is counted as a 'rape' for statistical purposes?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/15 04:00 PM
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I think he is (was) a manipulative, shitty dude with some obvious issues. If someone did this to a person I cared about I'd probably hurt them very badly. I don't consider him a rapist.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/15 07:42 PM
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What're these requirements for, exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/15 07:31 PM
3

What is tren? Steroids or something? Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/15 09:39 PM
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Anyone who has seen the changes in seddit over the past 3 years knows exactly why we're so proactive. I also don't consider our moderation policy/approach all that strict. It's just that a lot of people can't seem to follow a few very simple rules. There's also this weird idea a lot of non-RP folks seem to have that we over at /r/TRP are running some sort of open forum where you are free to come and challenge our ideas. We aren't. If you want to debate or argue from a non-TRP, that's what /r/Pur…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/15 07:44 PM
1

TRP is about what is, not what should be.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/15 05:52 PM
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being mentally healthy You know who that advice would really help? Depressed people.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/15 04:34 PM
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Ugly is relative I agree. Usually, if a guy is lacking a bit in some qualities he can make up for it by excelling in others. Example, one of my best friends is pretty chubby, but also 6'3". Another is 5'6", but pretty cut and super outgoing. Both do very well.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/15 09:23 PM
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Men look to other men for "approval" in terms of how attractive their SO/the woman they're banging or how desirable a woman is... I think the term you're looking for is validation. I like it when my friends/other men look at a girl I'm seeing and think 'daaaaamnn', but that would never make me want a girl I didn't already, or no longer think a girl's attractive if they didn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/15 05:00 PM
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Because men are the pursuers in sex. When a man and woman have sex, 99% of the time, the man has actively achieved something. He has 'wooed' her successfully, and been chosen from a pool of available and interested men. For women, it's more passive. She just selected one of her suitors and spread her legs, 99% of the time she didn't pursue, but allowed herself to be pursued. ...why [do] red pill men want women who don't sleep around, when they do/attempt to[?] Because we want to have sex and als…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/15 03:02 PM
1

Well, good luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/15 08:16 PM
1

Figured out how to raise my son so that he definitely didn't end up TRP. How do you plan on doing that?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/15 07:12 PM
1

Men are the big romcom market now?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 03:03 PM
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If he expresses his interest, reject him politely but definitively, and allow for some distance. You've rejected his proposed relationship, so if he wants to reject your proposed relationship (just friends) then that's fair play. If he wants to be friends, he'll reengage you. Don't crowd him, and don't get jealous/defensive/flirty when he moves on to a different woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 12:58 AM
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No it's like someone saying that fascism is bad. That's how many BPers talk about RP, but it's not really a valid debate position. 'Bad' is nebulous and subjective. What I've yet to see argued convincingly is that RP is a. Ineffective (That's the big one) b. Immoral (Intrinsically, not can be applied immorally) c. Inferior to any other theoretical approaches you may adhere to. (i.e; Your approach is more effective/moral.)
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 09:47 PM
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Either a criticism stands on its own merit or it doesn't, right? Eh. I think if I say 2+2=4, and you say no it doesn't, you should present a counter hypothesis. Anyone can sit behind a screen and say 'No' over and over, I think to have proper standing in a debate you should have an affirmative position.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 09:39 PM
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There is no BP strategy. That's part of the problem. You offer no counter-approach to what we see as an effective approach. It's like a professed blind man arguing with a sighted man about what the Mona Lisa looks like.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 09:06 PM
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She should be aware of what the situation lends itself to. Sorry ladies, I'm not inviting you into my room at 1am to listen to music, i'm inviting you to f*ck. We know it, and you know it too. It's just that for some reason, "Do you wanna come up for some sex?" is perceived as too forward, so "Do you wanna come up for some coffee?" replaces it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 07:57 PM
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If you really want to stop rape in prison, then you're welcome to start your own political movement about it... Fun story, 'rape culture' originally referred to the culture of rape that existed in prison. You know, where rape actually is culturally accepted as just 'something that happens and is okay' It's actually feminists who co-opted the term from another political movement (prison/ criminal justice reform) and bastardized it to somehow mean 'a dude who doesn't cross his legs while sitting o…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 02:16 PM
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In 20 years I'll be in my early 40s, or about as old as my Dad was when I was born. My Mom was 29 at that time. It's very doable, despite what some of you think.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 02:08 PM
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You're right. Marriage is currently a terrible idea. That's why it isn't currently my plan. My point is that I can change my mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 09:39 PM
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I'll adjust my plan as I go along. With medical science as it is, It's not impossible that I could maintain eligible bachelor status for 40-50 more years. Maybe I'll change my mind or conditions will change in the future such that a wife and kids makes sense again. One of the benefits of being an RP man is that if I decide in twenty years I want a family, I can marry a woman in her mid/late twenties-early thirties and do that. Women by and large don't have that option, and guys who marry poorly/…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 09:25 PM
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[nb. Scales here are rather irrelevant to me. There are people I am not attracted to and people I am attracted to, I am attracted to so few people I don't tend to scale like that.] The scales here refer to the quality of the act and not the attractiveness of the partner. So the 6/10 sex is good, not great, whereas the 11/10 kiss is best you've ever had, 1 in a million type stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 09:16 PM
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There's always someone with some deal-breaker that disqualifies you in a way you think is unfair. That's life. 90% chance you aren't so small you can't get her off with decent technique. If you're worried about the size of your dick, get good at mouth and hand stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 09:14 PM
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but at that point it's more about you as a total package than about your package, totally. and how long did it take you to bust out that nugget of wisdom?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 08:42 PM
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Actually have sex. I don't think a guy actually gets much social proof from being 'that guy who f*cked Kate Upton' as you'd think. Plus, I think she'd be more useful to me if she thought of me as 'that cool guy who I can have fun with discretely' rather than 'that dude everyone thinks I banged' I'd have sex with the 10. Never had a threesome, but I'm confident in my ability to make it happen down the line. I think it'll be much harder to get to a place where I can bang a girl I find visually per…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 08:23 PM
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confused. does this mean two 7s at the same time or ONS with a 10? Either a threesome with two 7s or sex with a 10. It starts as a ONS but you have the option to convert it into something more based on your own ability to do so.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 04:47 PM
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Physical stimulation (Penetration, friction, ejaculation, boobie touches, etc) Emotional validation (The feeling of being wanted/desired/'loved', the feeling of being 'good enough') Social validation (The feeling of being admired for my prowess by friends/ other men, the respect that comes from being able to 'bed' attractive women) I'd say these are all the 'reasons' I (or most men) have or pursue sex, ranked in order of importance. Physical stimulation is the main reason, but the other stuff fa…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 03:19 PM
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Imagine an innocent girl who goes on a date with a guy, not intending to have any physical contact with him, just because he asked her out and seemed nice. I could generously say a particularly naive girl may honestly have that thought process until she's 18. By 18, all but the most special brand of sheltered idiots know what's going on at least a little. There's no 'mess' here, just slutty behavior being excused by a lack of agency. Doesn't make her a bad person.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 03:04 PM
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Both measures are useful, but even for a girl as old as her late 20's, the numbers probably tell a similar story. The only type of woman who would really find this useful is someone who could say straight faced, "I used to blow guys for coke and do gang bangs, but I stopped that 3 months ago so now I'm practically a virgin."
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 09:00 PM
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It's aimed at making a statement, not solving a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 06:48 PM
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I was in the 'nothing tastes as good as being thin' group, it was never for male attention. Then what was it for?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 12:39 AM
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Dread is quite effective on beta males.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/15 04:56 PM
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I like it except I don't think intelligence is actually a selected for trait. Of the 10 smartest men I know, at least 8 have or have had struggles attracting women. Cleverness, which I find to be the social/economic utility of intelligence, is selected for, but intelligence in the abstract is not.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/15 02:58 PM
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You think the letter of the law is the only standard of treatment and judgement?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/15 02:14 PM
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Is OP a man or woman? For me (dude) generally I look at body more for ONS/short term, and a pretty face for longer term.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/15 05:53 AM
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If we want a truly egalitarian society, violence against women should be treated and judged exactly like violence against men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/15 05:45 AM
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I'd argue that attractiveness falls not along a line but a bell curve, with most people being average or close to (4-7) and the truly hideous/supernaturally beautiful (1s & 10s) being extremely rare. Other than that, decent work.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/15 09:20 PM
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Well,we could... allow poverty to determine whether or not the person can be a parent... Bottom line, you either believe parenthood is a choice to be actively made, or something you decide to "take a chance on" by virtue of f*cking. If it's the second, fine, no abortion-no fiscal abandonment. But if you're someone who swears up and down 'her body, her choice', then he should get a choice as well with his resources, and much like her choice, it should be able to be made independent of whatever th…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/15 03:05 AM
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It's not wrong so much as it is stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/15 09:00 PM
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/u/GaiusScaevolus, exclusively. Maybe one or two can f*ck some of my good friends, because i'm generous like that. How/why is this a question?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/15 06:30 PM
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Woman have the right to choose to abort. If they choose not to abort, then I fail to see why it must fall to a man or the government to subsidize her life choices.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/15 02:49 PM
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Trans dude walked around uncomfortable in his own skin living what he thought was a lie. When his outward form was in line with his inner perception, his stress/anxiety level was reduced, allowing him to produce better quality, more focused work.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/15 03:50 PM
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Both. I'm talking about the greater implications of perfect honesty.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/15 06:28 PM
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You think everyone is completely honest? No woman has ever bent the truth to let down a nice but ugly guy gently? No dude has ever let a woman believe he wants an LTR when all he wants is dat ass?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/15 05:38 PM
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Why isn't TBP doing anything about ISIS?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/15 02:38 PM
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That's the nicest way anyone's ever told me to shove it up my @ss.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/15 07:14 PM
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ELW5?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/15 03:49 PM
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I admit that we (Mods) have a strong understanding of language and use the dark powers of catchy terminology to gain viewership for/ spread our ideas. For non-TRP examples, see; RAPE culture, stare RAPE, SLUT shaming, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/15 10:30 PM
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Because people like you will go forth and prosthelytize how terrible TRP and our "evil DREAD game" is. This is better marketing than we could get if we paid for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/15 07:20 PM
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This would be a good post on TRP (with formatting), but I don't see what it's doing on PPD. Is it a CMV? Debate? Discuss?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/15 05:17 PM
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The point isn't that big government leads to feminism, but the feminism requires big government to function.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/15 04:17 PM
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TRP has very real consequences And the kids who get expelled from college based on the word of some girl and an SJW 'consent' tribunal are what, exactly? Sounds like more of a 'real consequence' than any sort advice, regardless of it's level of shittiness.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/15 04:19 PM
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When I see Feminists write something over the top and hyperbolic or something I disagree with I just shake my head and go on about my business. I really don't feel that the most outlandish Feminists have any impact on my life or society at all. And yet when it comes to TRP, you're right here.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/15 02:35 PM
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An intellectual movement with political and social ramifications. We aren't activists as a 'group', but TRP has provided the intellectual basis for some cultural activism/shifts in the past 5 years.
/r/TheRedPill29/11/15 06:59 PM
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Much love RPS. Who could've know that our concepts would turn into an international movement...
/r/TheRedPill27/11/15 07:54 AM
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Legally it is the same (at least in the US). Also, most non-RP folks here claim an issue with an older man dating a much younger (but legal) woman (40 y.o man, 18 y.o girl). Are you saying your cool with it?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/15 05:32 PM
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The United States as a whole isn't really either. It's my experience/observation that upper class families tend to be patriarchal, and lower class families tend to be matriarchal (though single mothers account for much of this) with the great majority somewhere in between. As far as the question of which has the political power, I'd say the average woman has more than the average man, but the outlier men have more than the outlier women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/15 05:27 PM
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That is how uninformed individuals perceive the world, yes. The goal is to be smarter than that, realize not all Muslims are terrorists, not all right wingers share every belief, and that, despite your name, you are probably not an advocate for pedophilia.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/15 05:18 PM
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The best way to meet women is through your friends group, hands down. Many men don't have (m)any women in their social circles for whatever reason, and so have to find a less savory alternative. These are generally either online dating or cold approaching. Online is a slog for even good looking, successful guys, so if you live near any decent sized population centers, cold approaches are better. Within cold approaching you can either try day game or night game. Night game is more meat market-y a…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/15 03:06 PM
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Example: Lets say you see someone of your preferred sex. You put their SMV (on a 10 point scale) as a 5. Your friend however, is really really into people with their body type/features/etc, and rates them an 8. Can you actually think of an example where the discrepancy is that wide? I doubt that ever occurs. We like to think beauty is subjective, but there are still some pretty objective guidelines. People with realistic and reasonable scales generally come up with similar SMV ratings for the sa…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/15 03:29 PM
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I'm confused. Was this posted on TRP? If not, I don't see why you expect TRP to defend the rantings of some random bruised ego on the internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/15 02:20 PM
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For the record, we wouldn't necessarily call your aunt an 'alpha widow', just crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/15 02:15 PM
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I used to be hard into TRP. Browsed /r/redpillwomen[3] , /r/theredpill[4] , /r/asktrp[5] , and contributed pretty frequently What was your username? I think these "ex"TRP posts should require at least a hair of verification before we address them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/15 10:01 PM
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Is this the same for men dating hotter women or women with a higher smv? The desire/dread scale? I think so. Women using dread game is commonplace and jealous boyfriends are a dime a dozen.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/15 07:41 PM
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I think what is being alluded to, but for some reason not outright stated, is that you can't have proposition A without proposition B. The increased level of desire will trigger the increased level of dread.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/15 07:25 PM
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Most men's physical standards are already fairly generous, so I don't think there's much of a change in physical standards other than changes caused by other factors, such as drunkenness. Where standards differ from a ONS to an LTR is that a ONS standards are 99.5% physical. If you pass the boner test and are probably not a serial killer, you qualify for a ONS. LTRs take more than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/15 02:47 PM
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I'm still young/fit enough that 99.9% of my health issues can be solved with a stiff drink and a good nap. Beyond that, I'd say if an issue becomes persistently annoying or painful beyond what paying to diagnose/solve it would be, I'd go.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/15 05:40 AM
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They do to others in there 40's, 50's and 60's. Though admittedly the age group i'm mostly referring to is 18-40.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/15 08:17 PM
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Post here or PM a few senior guys and see if they'd be willing. Remember to doxx proof whatever you put up.
/r/askTRP19/11/15 08:03 PM
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I wouldn't say married people look after themselves more, but that women usually encourage more consumption of medical services. The only times in the past 3 years I've considered going to a doctor or getting a check up is when a woman (mother, fwb, coworker) brings it up. I actually see the inverse trend. Single people (men and women) tend to take better care of themselves, because they're still 'selling', so they have to look good to stay competitive.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/15 03:33 PM
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So even if you see people engaging in a completely different lifestyle, you still have to project onto their inner-psyches to assume that they're really just like you. That's the difference. I'm not assuming, i'm just wondering.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/15 07:40 PM
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...isn't this conclusion a little solipsistic? You could certainly argue that. However, given that the position I'm vocalizing is not only not just specific to me, but the default position in western society for men who don't have a cuckoldry fetish, I wouldn't call it solipsistic. And again, I'm not saying polyamory or cuckold fetishes are wrong, just that I wonder if the man is actually into that fairly uncommon fetish/lifestyle.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/15 06:59 PM
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First, I think it's overplayed on here how much we talk/think about cuckoldry over on TRP. The only time it comes up in my view is when a BPer brings it up or in an example from /r/relationships or /r/TwoX. Second, I don't think it's fair to say someone fears something just because they don't share in it as a fetish. I understand conceptually that cuckolding is a sexual fetish for some, the same way scat or pegging or rape-play are all sexual fetishes. I'm personally not into any of the above, b…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/15 06:25 PM
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So to your mind a couple that lives together, has merged finances, is legally married, and coparents children together is not a relationship because they might be are fucking other people? No, those things aren't sufficient on there own to make a relationship. I'd note that in the vast majority of cases, having sex with another person is viewed as sufficient justification to end a legal marriage, which would imply that having extra-marital sex is understood to terminate the existing relationship…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/15 02:38 AM
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To me, I can't honestly picture a scenario where I'd get into a relationship with a woman then be okay with her sleeping with other guys. So when I see said scenarios, I am skeptical of whether the guy actually wants that, or if he is trying desperately to placate a woman who is at this point just using him (Fyi: Most 'opened' situations I've seen are that) I also see sex as a (perhaps the) defining characteristic of an adult, romantic relationship. Without sexual exclusivity, I struggle to see …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/15 09:41 PM
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I consider porn and masturbation the same as I consider alcohol, video games, night clubs, and television. Its fine to have a hobby/ enjoy something completely useless as a means of stress release, the problem comes when it becomes damaging to your real life and goals, or an excuse/crutch to not improve in real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/15 08:31 PM
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I'm guessing he means "great personality" girl the same way some women talk about a "nice" guy. Personality is good, but it's not going to get a woman super far as an SMV boost.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/15 03:22 PM
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If I made a post about doing this same thing (I have) and advised other men to try it, (I do) BPers would label me a rapist. I'm interested in their response to this... In answer to your question: A big part of TRP is developing those traits. Dominance is big one we talk about quite a bit.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/15 05:40 PM
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One summer between my Sophomore and Junior year of high school (years 10-11 for foreigners), my parents decided that since I hadn't lined up a summer job, they would pay me to maintain the house. In addition to the 'woman's' work; (Dishes, laundry, cleaning, cooking dinner, minding my brother and cousins) I was also responsible for the 'man's' work: (Mowing, gutters, splitting/stacking firewood, etc). All told, I think my daily tasks took up avg. 3 hours a day. The outdoors (i.e, man) work took …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/15 03:57 PM
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Holy wall of text batman. I'm going to try to tackle these one by one throughout the day. In the future, try splitting it into a post per myth, you'll get better discussion. The trouble is most RP/MRA types have no idea what is meant by rape culture and tend to argue against a strawman. One of the most common assumptions is that rape culture means a culture actively promotes rape and/or sees it as a good thing: Rape Culture = A culture of rape. Period. That's what is conveyed by the specific wor…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/15 03:39 PM
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Spider-king FTW!
/r/TheRedPill12/11/15 10:23 PM
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That looks...unpleasant.
/r/TheRedPill12/11/15 10:21 PM
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Male Yes Not really. LTR yes, Marriage no. (Wouldn't marry rich or poor)
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/15 08:00 PM
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I agree with you in this scenario. Quite often, women would post pictures of guys they were talking to on Okcupid and ask the rest of the women "Do you think this guy is cute?" Incidentally, why do you think they did this? (There is a RP answer but I want your interpretation first)
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/15 02:40 PM
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I don't disagree per se, I just think RMV is near useless to our conversation. Most of the new guys that come to us have issues in the SMV department. Some may have RMV issues, but those are far less important than addressing SMV issues, which are usually what's holding them back from even being considered sexually, let alone as relationship material. RMV has a place for a man who is consistently dating and keeps failing out of good LTRs, but SMV is something a man needs to address to even enter…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/15 02:30 PM
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Even though they literally from a psychological/medical perspective, are not the same thing. Interesting note at the end there: It is concluded that "few would want to label erotic interest in late — or even mid — adolescents as a psychopathology, so the term hebephilia may have been ignored... Does this change your mind at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/15 08:56 PM
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Do you actually consider sexual attraction to a 16 year old (or 17 for that matter) pedophilia? Or restated, do you honestly see no difference between sexual attraction to a 16 year old and sexual attraction to an 8 year old?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/15 08:38 PM
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Mhm.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/15 08:26 PM
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Solipsism is the view or theory that the self is all that can be known to exist. So in your example, if you were using your grandmothers were working to extrapolate that all grandmothers were working, that could be considered solipsistic. TRP may start with solipsism on the individual level for some, but the experience is replicated fairly closely among members/ subscribers. The sample size is a bit large to accuse of solipsism.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/15 08:25 PM
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I have no distinct memory of this, but from your thread here it seems like you were probably banned for being a douche nozzle when speaking to the Mods. Turns out that's not a good way to get folks on your side. PS: 90% of racial/ethnic commentary is deleted. So ultimately it likely was removed.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/15 02:30 PM
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If you meant that you are unlikely to kill yourself if he dumps you, you meant to write (not very likely) If you meant that you are likely to kill yourself if he dumps you, then your grammar is correct, but more simply phrased as 'likely'. The double negatives cancel each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/15 10:36 PM
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Tinder actually IS a 100% looks based medium. At least 70% of the women on there are purely interested in validation, not actually meeting up, and the few women who are interested in sex are going for a purely visual basis top SMV they can attain guy. The only way to have any success on Tinder as an average or below average looking guy is to have ostentatiously high status/wealth and pimp that out.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/15 05:15 PM
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I basically agree with your premise, but I think the 90-10 split is a poor way of defining it. I think within a short span after meeting a guy, most women subconsciously decide whether they would date/f#ck a guy. If the answer to that question is yes, then the guy does what he wants/can to make her want to f#ck him. This is largely why there's such an argument over how much looks matter for guys. For low SMV guys, they don't pass the initial hurdle of 'would', so no matter what they do, they can…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/15 03:56 PM
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Looks are a lesser factor for most men, An average looking guy isn't really helped or hurt by his appearance, but a low SMV man is killed by it. 1-4: Looks matter hugely and actively prevent you from getting laid. A 1-3 man has no hope of sex without financial assistance (and heavy assistance at that). A 4 may get somewhere with a lot of other good qualities, but he's usually relegated to BB status. 5-7: Looks are a piece of the puzzle. You aren't losing points on appearance, but you aren't gett…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/15 03:31 PM
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So your position is that a sub about Having more sex with hotter women and physical/mental self improvement attracts a lot of guys who need help with women or their physical/mental self improvement? The only disagreement I have here is the most assertion. It's more involved than that. You get the total newcomers who are mostly as you describe, then as time goes on, the ones that engage and stick around and put theory into practice improve. Not everyone does this, and not everyone who does this b…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/15 02:32 PM
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It'd be brilliant, but will never happen. I'd like to add a specific question to your scenario; If women could actually choose who to be attracted to as described above, do you (anyone) think they would choose to be attracted to beta provider genuine nice guy types.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 03:43 PM
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TL;DR: I don't want to be a target of "game" or unwanted sexual advances. What should I do? Tough. Part of life for any remotely non Huttese woman is being hit on by guys who find you sexually attractive. Unless you deliberately make yourself extremely unappealing, you'll probably have to deal. Express disinterest in a polite but firm way and move on with your day like everyone else. (I might later be posting this on r/AskTRP[1] but I thought I'd try here first) Would not recommend.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 02:53 PM
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This is a tough question to answer since the two are so interconnected (i.e, by becoming less unattractive, you necessarily become more attractive.) Not only that, the same action taken by different people falls into different categories. (A 5'8, 300 lb guy who loses forty pounds has made myself less unattractive, where as the same guy who loses 40 lbs at 220 lb has made himself more attractive.) If we're assuming an average guy, (5.5 SMV, No major deformities, doughy, but not obese by any reaso…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 02:43 PM
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/r/nonothingnovember. You picked the perfect time to show up and kick some bad habits.
/r/askTRP05/11/15 04:25 PM
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In general, Women have a strong advantage until everyone reaches the age of 'dating seriously' with an eye to marriage. At this point, where women are actively seeking commitment, men gain a slight advantage. For the most attractive 10%, men have an advantage, but generally, it's women. The simplest way to think about this; Many guys will f*ck a girl that is -2 to their own SMV if it's a guaranteed lay. I can think of nearly 0 women who would do the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/15 03:04 PM
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Men will settle short term and long term (Many) Women will settle long term, but not short term.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/15 02:51 PM
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Honestly, unless the number/context is ridiculous or it's a STD thing, for me it's less the N-count itself and more what I've found it's a correlative marker for.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/15 06:37 PM
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Boobs are nice. Vaginas are fun. Though it's harder to come by nowadays, having feminine energy (or however you'd put it and not sound like a hippy) around. Some of them have nice butts too.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/15 04:12 PM
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Avoid being raped (M/F) If you do not want to have sex, your objection needs to be loud and clear. You are responsible for your own safety. Be mindful of yourself and your surroundings. Rape isn't the fault of the victim, but just like looking both ways before you cross the street to avoid being hit by a car, there are common sense steps a reasonable person should take to minimize their risk. The horrible fact is that rape will still happen, because some people are sick, and some people are mons…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/15 04:03 PM
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Right-wing. I'd usually describe myself as a Classical Liberal, but I admit I find the arguments of Burke and other Conservatives very compelling.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/15 09:24 PM
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I don't take chasers generally.
/r/TheRedPill03/11/15 03:22 PM
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This is basically what I came here to say. No one will be impressed by how high quality the booze you spit out is. Drink what tastes good.
/r/TheRedPill03/11/15 02:43 PM
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No cheating (if you have to ask, it counts). No lying. Acceptance that because of who I am and what I do for work, I can't/won't share everything. Me, Captain/Her, First officer. I'm not concerned with who works/makes more as long as if kids become involved her first job is mom. Both do what we're good at, but the final say is mine. No state involvement in our relationship/household. Culturally married, any children have my last name (ideally she does too, but since it isn't a legal marriage, I …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/15 07:12 PM
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I think this gets misunderstood by a lot of people (Both BP and TRP). I'd restate it as three premises: All things being equal, men age better than women. Already attractive men have the ability to become more attractive longer than women can do the same. (i.e, many women think Clooney has gotten more attractive as he entered middle age, but it is rare to find a man who feels Angelina Jolie has gotten hotter over the last 15 years.) Note: This does not preclude the possibility of a woman being a…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/15 06:26 PM
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His whole premise is flawed. "Rape Culture" only 'exists' in the minds of women who have been told to fear men. If your parents teach you from birth to fear cats, your fear isn't the fault of the cat for existing, it's the people who gave you an irrational fear of cats. (As an aside, I find a good general rule is that when an ideology tells you you can't tell certain types of jokes, they've jumped the shark. Modern Feminism is trying to do a triple back flip over Jaws.)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/15 05:34 PM
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One thing you can do to reduce anxiety is develop a lot of skill at manual/oral. If you are confident you can get her off with your mouth/hand(s),your anxiety about anything PiV related plummets. Another thing is to drink a bit before f*cking a new girl for the first time or two. In addition to helping to reduce anxiety, the slight numbing effect of alcohol will help your endurance and start that positive feedback loop of good experiences with that girl.
/r/TheRedPill02/11/15 04:34 PM
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We aren't in the business of censoring for PC reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/15 02:59 PM
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I don't know if I would use a public high school class as a platform to teach anything but the biology and basic VD/contraception, but if we were talking about Scaevolus' School for Gifted Youngsters then I'd include discussions of sexual ethics/responsibility, such as; Consent. No means no BUT if you mean no you have the responsibility of vocalizing/making clear your no in a strong way. Rape = Denial of Agency + Sexual intercourse Agency. Regret =/= Rape. If you get drunk/high and sleep with so…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/15 02:50 PM
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Is this supposed to be a question or a debate topic or..? Also you didn't give a TL;DR at the end. Here let me do one for you TL;DR: It's not that hard to get laid for guys, and I should know, as a 20 year old college girl I have tons of experience and first hand knowledge of what dating is like.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/15 01:32 PM
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Ah, then, like many of California's laws, it is a dumb one.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/15 05:12 PM
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This has literally nothing to do with rape. But I would (and do) apply a standard of gendered equivalence. So if a girl starts rubbing my pecs, I consider it a green light to grab her ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/15 02:25 PM
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The two factors I would consider are; Denial of agency (Either s/he says no or is rendered physically incapable of doing so) Penetration/Envelopment (P in V/A/M) Marriage would be a legal state of implied consent. Consent may be withdrawn, but is presumed as a fact of marriage. Withdrawal of consent is grounds for at fault divorce and affects alimony/asset division.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/15 02:19 PM
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The personal number or the real number?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/15 10:15 PM
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When in doubt, always wear hunter orange or red during the season. If there are hunters on the property,you probably won't get run off.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/15 03:46 PM
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When did the husband find out you were a prostitute? My personal number is at about 7. Including work I'd have no idea.. over 500. My partners count is 10ish. If your partner had asked about n count early on, which # would you have given him and why?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/15 02:27 PM
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Does she actually believe feminism will lead to equality, or is she openly anti-male? Do you plan to 'come out'? If so when and how and can you record it for posterity?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/15 02:21 PM
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The horns don't hurt, but must be well maintained with oils and lotions so they don't get all crumbly. Try Samael's Horn Oil. Gives them that nice, sleek, black as night shine.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/15 02:13 PM
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It was a bit of a joke as I'm in my mid/late twenties. We have a range, but I'd say the average is 30-35.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/15 02:05 PM
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It's funny you phrase it that way. In my adult life, I've never heard myself described as 'cute' until last week, since then I've heard it used in reference to me by 8-10 different girls. In all honesty, I'd say i'm 'okay' looking. I'm not super hot, but I do all right. The best way to put it is if you saw me with an HB8, you might assume I was somewhat charismatic or well endowed, but you wouldn't automatically assume I'm rich and she's a gold digger.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/15 02:04 PM
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I'm actually not sure. Being not married that sub has developed without much input on my part. Maybe folks just haven't gotten around to incorporating it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/15 01:49 PM
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We're very careful to not break any rules. If we do get banned, it will be a SJW hit because of feelings. We can't control that. We have a back up plan when the time comes, but the time isn't coming for a while.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/15 01:45 PM
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Ah. then he has really jumped the shark since I stopped paying attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/15 01:43 PM
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I don't believe in shaming so much as honesty. IRL, I wouldn't mock someone for (just) being fat or slutty, but if it comes up in conversation (Do you think 50 guys is a lot? Do you think i'm fat?) I'm honest. If someone is delusional about it (FA/'sassy' fat girls in leggings/etc.) I can be harsh, but only if I think their harming themselves/ others or being a huge bitch.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/15 01:42 PM
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Slut shaming and Marriage are 2 issues we find a lot of disagreement on even among Sr. TRPers. RPS and I had a debate a while back about when/how a woman determines a man is sexually attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/15 07:14 PM
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What do you see as the future of the United States SMP? How do you see it changing? That's a hell of a question. I think a lot of it depends on the political and economic developments of the next couple decades. If nothing changes, I think we see the 'sex gap' between the top 20% of guys and the bottom 80% increase in a crazy way, this will lead to an increase in 'Angry Beta' violence. If marriage isn't killed completely, we'll get marriage 3.0, where extra marital sex is accepted and at least s…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/15 07:03 PM
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I'd add something about inner frame, but basically, it's alright. Maybe I'm getting soft in my old age but i'm not as quick on the nexting trigger as I used to be. I think it should always be an option and a lot of guys need to be reminded of that, but there are a lot of issues that are completely solvable without torching the relationship/plate/marriage. I think it's important to teach finesse as a skill, it's something a lot of people lack.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/15 06:25 PM
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I imagine it's the same reason there aren't a lot of moderate political activists. and most aren't as extreme as they appear, but the reasoned and measured comments don't get as much play.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/15 06:14 PM
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When will you make a FaQ for asktrp? It's on the list. The original hope was that folks would read the sidebar first, but that was a bit optimistic. What do you think about this kind of response? I like it. Would you support an anti spoon feeding rule? Removing comments which respond to stuff which can be answered by reading the side bar or the FaQ. I'd be wary of that since Ask is by definition a sub for new folks to ask questions that to us have been beaten to death 100 times. Maybe the FAQ sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/15 06:10 PM
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Consistent quality posts and comments that show a strong understanding of theory and practice, and a need on TRP for a new mod. There's also a small blood oath and virgin sacrifice* I don't think you're on the candidate list HSW... (*allegedly)
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/15 06:00 PM
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Probably how nondescript we are IRL. I know a couple and have met 1 or 2 others and we're all pretty much normal guys. A few of us have gfs/fiances, a few are single, but none have the look or vibe that I think Mods get caricatured with. I think we're pretty open with our views. Some folks at PPD might be surprised at the amount of internal debate within RP ideology, but I think our average member is aware there's a spectrum.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/15 05:58 PM
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They aren't evil, they're playing the fantasy and telling people what they want to hear for there own gain just like everyone else in the world. The main difference between you or me and Disney is the scale of their operation.
/r/TheRedPill27/10/15 05:50 PM
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This. Not sure whether it's the case with the OP, but a lot of 'naturally submissive' guys I know are either just browbeaten or tired of having every suggestion they make shot down for 5 minutes before she picks a place anyways. I developed that habit when I was younger simply because my brother and mom are super picky eaters.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/15 05:31 PM
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It doesn't look like you were banned for being offensive. It looks like you were kicked out for the same reason George Zimmerman isn't allowed at the NAACP and Obama isn't allowed at the RNC, you're not part of the in-group, therefore you aren't entitled to be part of in-group discussions. If you want to talk about RP, there's a whole sub right here dedicated to discussing it with people who aren't part of the in-group. Unfortunately you apparently are only interested in crying about the 'BPers …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/15 01:46 PM
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Think I'm dead or not? No. I think shes giving you a grand opportunity to sack up and close by asking for another movie night.
/r/askTRP26/10/15 05:44 PM
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Enthusiasm is the most important thing other than having a vagina.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/15 04:52 PM
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"I'll have to see and get back to you?" Did you say that or did she? If she said that, you're out. Did you attempt a kiss and get rejected or not attempt? Text her <That was fun, let's get together again soon> If she responds within an hour, green light. If she responds this evening, try but don't get your hopes up. Any longer and that's a full stop.
/r/askTRP26/10/15 04:15 PM
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Hugh Hefner, in a medium/situation in which he felt free to be candid and not PC it up to protect his empire. A guy & girl at who dated at in highschool/college. AMAs at ages 18, 21, 25, and 31. A trio of girls I know who frequent the club I work at. They are to be given a fool proof truth serum before answering questions. (This could probably be replaced with any trio of attractive mid 20's party girls, these 3 are just the first such group that come to mind) (Not really an AMA but still) A Tru…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/15 02:44 PM
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Tell that to my RP ban. Yeah, and I bet they won't make me the featured speaker at the next NOW meeting. The fact that you aren't allowed to sh*ttalk a group in their 'clubhouse' doesn't mean you're being oppressed or silenced.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/15 02:28 PM
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From a RP perspective, it's not our problem to solve and we don't care. Women have a lot of preferences/standards that are outside men's control or don't mesh with the day to day reality a man may face, those aren't women's problems either. If you don't meet a guys standard for LTR, regardless of if the standard is fair or reasonable or legitimate in your eyes, that's tough sh*t. Same as if a guy doesn't meet a woman's standard for casual sex/hookup. From a personal perspective, I view a single …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/15 06:51 PM
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Newbies who read for a < week then start arguing theory with Mods/ECs, or Alpha bro-ing. Settle down young blood, RPS doesn't need to be told to 'next' a girl, I'm 90% sure you aren't more familiar than I am with dread/SMP economic theory and GLO is many things but 'beta' isn't one of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/15 03:07 PM
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When she dates him, she has to bang him and only him daily. I'm not sure whether I find this notion sweet or naive. We'd all like to live in this fantasy world, but unfortunately it doesn't exist. You're comparing apples and ice cream. The easiest way to explain this is to picture two men Alex and Bob; Alex is a broke DJ, tall, dark, and handsome type with a six pack. He splits a party house with his 4 bros and most of his cash goes to partying. Bob is a mid level accountant pulling down $60,000…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/15 02:43 PM
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I've heard it said many times on manosphere forums that this is exactly what women should do. Link? I've seen this batted around once, but that's it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/15 02:17 PM
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Many are extremely obtuse with any sort of simile or metaphor, to the extent i'm actually hoping it's intentional. Every word of text on TRP is taken in it's most literal, most evil interpretation, even when several TRP Mods/ECs/Vanguards explicitly say that it's to be taken metaphorically or interpreted differently. Concepts like 'dread' and 'LMR' are presumed rapey and abusive because it doesn't occur to many BPers that in the moment a man could calibrate his actions or identify the difference…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/15 02:14 PM
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I think it's more an example of how culture treats the elite/famous vs. the plebs than men vs. women. If Yolandi killed her boyfriend in the same circumstance, I think she probably would've gotten a lesser sentence.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/15 01:20 PM
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Most women have zero (or near zero) experience; Asking someone out Being rejected at the gate Being attractive to women Getting sexual with a woman Displaying attractive masculine traits Being the 'pursuer' "Wooing" The vast majority of people don't actually know why they're attracted to a person besides a general physical attractiveness. This is especially pronounced in women, where the great majority take the passive role in mate selection and can therefore "just be yourself" or "wait for the …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/15 01:47 PM
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This post is completely pointless and without value.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/15 04:43 PM
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Her body language is more dominant, but they're of basically equal SMV.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/15 04:54 PM
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Sounds like you're mad some rando is trying to cash in. Your actual beef isn't he's inept, but rather that he's over-priced. He may do a phenomenal job. Either way, I continue to not know who he is so any link he has to TRP is in your head.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/15 01:47 PM
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and we thank them for there tireless efforts at growing our evil empire.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/15 01:25 PM
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Fair enough. If you add to it you can resubmit later.
/r/TheRedPill15/10/15 09:01 PM
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TRP as a strategy is amoral, but individual actors who subscribe to TRP all have their own moral code. Contrary to what feminists will tell you, rape is against the moral code of the vast majority of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/15 09:00 PM
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This really ought to be edited with a summary and/or some interesting tidbits from the book if you want it to stay up.
/r/TheRedPill15/10/15 08:02 PM
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What about LTR? Girls compromise for commitment right Theoretically. But you shouldn't aim for someone who would settle for you as an LTR. That's a fast track to dead bedrooms and divorce rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/15 07:59 PM
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To pull for a ONS, generally it's best to be +1-2 points above the girl's SMV. Alternatively, if you have high status, you can get away with being equal or even -1 to her SMV. Generally, you want to be a minimum 6.5-7 if you want to get a 5+.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/15 07:35 PM
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But can/do you accept that it works for some? If so, can you accept that a guy that has tried the 'conventional' methods and failed may benefit from trying TRP tactics or attitudes? (/u/belletaco: You too, Just wanted to reply on the thread that will probably have the most exposure.)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/15 05:34 PM
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7, probably.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/15 05:01 PM
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Even with your example, the pretty ladies followed the men out West and simply enforced the cultural norms of the nation and era. They would never have gone West if the men had not gone first, made war with the violent tribes, established townships, built a society, and created an economy that can sustain women whose jobs don't produce consumable necessities. Men create society, women enforce culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/15 03:00 PM
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Mostly gas, supplemented by wood stove in the winter. Yep. I can even make too much fire with flint and steel. Suburban/Rural, but close to a few small cities. Yeah. None of those specifically. I did debate, wrestling, judo, and politics.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/15 01:49 PM
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You could always abstain from sex with a woman you wouldn't want a child with Do you subscribe to the abstinence method for women as well?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/15 05:47 PM
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So is "single". Every 'single' girl I know has at least one guy they sleep with semi -regularly and 'hang out' with, it's just one or both parties have decided the partner isn't quite up to par to go public/official with.
/r/TheRedPill12/10/15 03:03 PM
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Beach Boys Wouldn't It Be Nice reminds me of BP and the SJW Left in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/15 02:53 PM
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I'd prefer a male birth control pill, but I think as long as abortion is interpreted as a constitutionally guaranteed right and we believe that parenthood is a choice in regards to the mother, fatherhood should equally be a choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/15 02:45 PM
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"Well, he's certainly not invited on our first date."
/r/TheRedPill11/10/15 08:20 PM
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CMV: It's hypocritical for a woman to want a man whose dick is bigger than her clit.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/15 02:28 AM
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Yes. The system is unstable. Hence, all the war politics and backstabbing that is history.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/15 03:59 PM
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There are a lot of things that are important to others but not to me. And things that are important to me that others could care less about. I don't think we'd be able to come to a useful conclusion on anything so subjective as the relative importance of intangibles like legacy, honor or chastity.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/15 05:00 PM
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Not a bad idea. I'd even consider hiring some attractive women as staff just to get them used to interacting with good looking girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/15 02:36 PM
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It should be legal and regulated the same as any other personal service industry.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/15 02:24 PM
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I always thought a man should be able to revoke the rights to his surname after a divorce. I know many people (myself included) whose last names carry considerable reputation in my area, and it doesn't seem right a woman should profit off the name a man spends his life building by virtue of having once f*cked him.
/r/TheRedPill29/09/15 02:23 PM
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No, my argument is that the guys in THESE guy's lives are either just shitty role models or aren't giving the kinds of advice THESE guys specifically want to hear. That's why they go to TRP. Agreed on the first possibility. The second is odd to me because the type of advice any guy wants to hear is the advice that works. If sonnets and flowers made women like them, guys would do that. No one adopts dread game or an alpha strategy because they want to or it's fun, the do it because it works. ...a…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/15 02:18 PM
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Asking internet strangers for advice on anything is weird. Guys shouldn't have to do it. they should have someone in their real life that can help them and point them in the right direction. But they don't. These guys aren't idiots. If Dad or their brother or their best buddy Jimmy had good/useful advice, they'd stop seeking advice after talking to them. Most people come to us after taking the advice folks in their real life have given them, and either the advice didn't work, or they just don't …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/15 01:51 PM
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Not as such. Though most women vaguely have a 'strategy' of "fun with 'bad boys' in my 20's, marry a 'good guy' in my 30s".
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/15 04:27 PM
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Wouldn't call it a bias, but most TRP folks are definitely right of center. Or put another way, the left is anti-male.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/15 03:37 PM
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again, you're both the same age, so it's apples to apples. whereas 39-year-old you looking at 15 year old alice is what I'm actually talking about. Reread my posts. That's not what I'm saying. girls under 18 can be attractive, sexually even, Ok... but it's the acting on that attraction (when you're an adult) that ignites the creep factor. So don't f*ck people under 18. Which is already against the law. So what's the point of your post? nothing wrong with seeing beauty in things, but don't gawk. …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/15 02:38 PM
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your argument doesn't make sense. All it says is that you find people you're own age attractive, and that's perfectly normal. No. It's saying that both 24 and 15 year old Gaius find Alice equally attractive at 15 through 24. No, it's my position that if Alice fucked boys from her high school while she was in high school, that's fine, but if 39-year-olds are scoping out Alice and letting it be known they want to fuck her, that's creepy. Is the 39 significant? Like if they were 35 would that be re…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/15 02:24 PM
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I went to high school with a few very attractive girls. One of them, let's say Alice, developed earlier on. I saw Alice last week, 9 years out from 15, and she looks exactly like she did in high school. Is it your position that she, despite not physically changing in terms of looks, crossed a magic barrier the day she turned 18 that made her suddenly attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/15 01:35 PM
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Theoretically, if such a thing exists, It'd be to maximize sex/offspring while expending as few resources as possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/15 03:40 PM
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This structure is only in regards to women. I could not be less concerned with male n-count. A week later, they have piv, so (s)he's now at 1. The next week, they do anal again, and whoa, (s)he's now at 2.5! That is a small flaw I hadn't considered. The underlying point is that anal is a more 'extreme' act than PiV sex. If a girl has anal sex with multiple guys, the probability she's a slut is extremely high.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/15 03:55 AM
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dated a few virgins. Did you f*ck them?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/15 05:02 PM
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PiV: 1.0 Oral/Titty-fucking: 0.5 HJ: 0.1 Fingering: 0.2 Anal: 0.5 if PiV virgin, 2.5 if not. Groping/Clothed humping don't count. Same sex experiences count equally.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/15 05:00 PM
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So your question straw mans and combines two or three different groups. The actual question is nonsense, so I'm going to answer what I think is your underlying legitimate question; If you push for sex immediately, how can you find a non-promiscuous women for an LTR? That's a very good question I just asked for you, and truthfully is a real stumper for new guys. The answer is to judge the girl and the interaction not on whether you have sex, but whether she is sexual.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/15 04:56 PM
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All the nightlife work I've done I heard about through a friend. In my area, clubs and bars hire semi-regularly if you have an ear to the industry. If all else fails, just go to your 3 favorite local spots and ask if they're hiring. The industry has a pretty consistent turnover rate, so if you're willing to take the bottom rung jobs to start and have a decent head on your shoulders, there's usually an opening for you. Especially if I'm not big? The guys who have worked at my spot range from 140l…
/r/TheRedPill21/09/15 02:38 PM
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All the nightlife work I've done I heard about through a friend. In my area, clubs and bars hire semi-regularly if you have an ear to the industry. If all else fails, just go to your 3 favorite local spots and ask if they're hiring. The industry has a pretty consistent turnover rate, so if you're willing to take the bottom rung jobs to start and have a decent head on your shoulders, there's usually an opening for you.
/r/TheRedPill21/09/15 02:31 PM
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All the nightlife work I've done I heard about through a friend. In my area, clubs and bars hire semi-regularly if you have an ear to the industry.
/r/TheRedPill19/09/15 12:06 AM
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It shouldn't advertise itself the end all relationship fixer when it it could end up destroying you relationship while another option could have fixed it. I assume you feel the same way about doctors and mechanics.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/15 08:55 PM
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Generally, if you're happy in your current dating/romantic/sexual situation, you don't come to TRP, or certainly aren't seeking strategies or asking for relationship/dating advice. Given that, we can assume that a man who comes to TRP (or any group of internet strangers for that matter) seeking advice, is almost necessarily, severely unhappy with there situation. We give them advice on how we would deal with the issue. If that can't solve it, then the choices are remain severely unhappy or termi…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/15 04:29 PM
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I don't think it's choosing the wrong mate who then walks out on you that gets condemned. As you point out, choosing to commit to the wrong partner is stupid regardless of gender. I'd call them stupid, and think it's annoying that my taxes pay for her bad decisions, but generally, yes, it's stupidity equal to wifing the wrong woman. The one's that I think are shitty people are the women who settle down and have kids, then after a length of time they get bored and decide they're 'not haaaaappy'. …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/15 01:53 PM
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There isn't a magic number. You'll know because of how they react. Women (particularly drunk women) will touch your muscles. Men will comment or ask questions.
/r/askTRP11/09/15 05:25 PM
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What kind of accountability do you think we should have/need? and to whom?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/15 05:16 PM
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I never understood their logic here. To me, it's like saying "Having bakeries in the area increases the instances of stolen bread, so we're outlawing the sale of baked goods." Let's make the sale of sex between freely consenting adults legal, then focus our resources on the trafficking part.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/15 02:55 PM
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it was important to note that the experiment only evaluated the performance of mixed-gender teams under current conditions. It was a measurement, she said, of how well average female Marines were doing today, not how well they could perform under ideal circumstances and with better training. Oh good. Well we definitely don't have a problem then, as all war/combat happens under ideal conditions.
/r/TheRedPill11/09/15 02:13 PM
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the MRP in /r/askMRP stands for 'married red pill'. Are you a person who would be described in this sub or other relevant subs as "red pill"? If not, no one was asking/talking to you and you did the internet equivalent of the drunk dude butting into the conversation from 5 bar stools away.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/15 02:22 PM
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I'd like to see at least 1 RP mod. Looking at the sidebar we have at least 2 openly BP mods. I think it'd make the moderation team appear less bias.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/15 03:33 PM
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We say don't LTR/Marry sluts. We don't complain about them. I personally like sluts right now. I'm busy and not really looking to invest my little remaining free time in a drawn out mating dance. I'd personally rather skip to the physical part. Also, everyone is hypocritical. It's ok, no one actually cares.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/15 03:14 PM
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More so than being under 5'6" should disqualify a man from being a serious prospect. I find it odd that this should concept keeps coming into play whenever we discuss what men find attractive. Life isn't fair, dating certainly isn't fair, and if you're just now realizing that people won't date you for reasons that you think are shallow or stupid or nonsensical, that's life and welcome to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/15 04:14 PM
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Here's a breakdown I did a while back on how I would judge various acts in terms of n-count.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/15 06:51 PM
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Because all rapes are reported and all rapists are immediately confronted by their victims?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/15 04:58 PM
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However they've all paid for it which implies consent. Or you raped and robbed them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/15 04:34 PM
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I'd only consider it rape if the other party either communicates non-consent or is incapable of doing so. Beyond a clear black-out/pass out, alcohol is tricky. This is because alcohol's effects are well known, and it is consumed willingly. In fact, having worked in nightlife off and on for a couple years, I can confidently assert that many people consume alcohol for it's inhibition/standard reducing effects. Are their people who try to screw someone with those lowered inhibitions? Yes. Do I thin…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/15 01:39 PM
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Women seem to live and die of the validation of others more so than men. Men are also raised with a 'sticks n stones' mentality, whereas women grow up with their being coddled emotionally.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/15 04:51 PM
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Are single mothers subhuman scum 99.99 of the time? No. They're often stupid and extracting resources they aren't entitled to, but in my experience only some are really truly awful. Why don't men who don't want children anytime soon either freeze their sperm and have a vasectomy or always use condoms (and wash the contents of the condoms down the sink before disposing of them/wrap condoms and take them with them)? Most use condoms. Some don't because they are stupid. Some don't because they trus…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/15 03:17 PM
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Either; A: She was cheating on a boyfriend/LTR with you. Possibly during a "fight" or a "break". B: She's a borderline with a turbo-hamster. Either way, I see no reason to contact her ever again.
/r/TheRedPill03/09/15 02:15 PM
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This actually seems like a fairly common tactic in recent years. Of the divorces I've been directly aware of over the past 7 years, I'd say 70% of the time the woman accuses the man of something like this. To my knowledge, it's been found true 0%.
/r/TheRedPill03/09/15 01:45 PM
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The sexual marketplace is among the last true local markets in the world. This means that your relative SMV in your area is what matters. So a 8 in Iowa may move to Boston and find herself now considered a 6, or a 6 in a club with a poor M:F ratio may find herself a local 8.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/15 01:44 PM
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trying to game the system. What system? Why is it wrong to want success in short term mating even if you aren't a 'natural' womanizer? Does being a natural really affect your view of these behaviors?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/15 05:59 PM
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I didn't want to be the one to say it this time.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/15 03:45 PM
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So why not call a woman ugly? You leave out that sometimes, ugly may simply be untrue. Things that are objectively untrue are easy to shake off. Loser is vague enough that a lot of people secretly fear its true.
/r/TheRedPill01/09/15 02:57 PM
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This. Every SJW, cultural marxist, and sociology major will throw up the 1 or 2 examples that go against the plainly visible trend as 'proof' that somehow the general rule doesn't exist. But if you're reading these words, chances are nearing certainty that at some point along the line, you can thank the patriarchy.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/15 02:45 PM
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That being said you do know that crime has decreased during the recent decades , right ? Despite recent year the trend has been towards solid economic growth over the past few decades. We aren't seeing that economic growth and will probably never see that kind of job/wage growth ever again. Bad economic conditions increase crime rates, lack of 2 parent households increase crime rates, the two together would be synergistic. I'd also be interested to see if the crime rate has dropped equally overa…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/15 09:39 PM
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Depends on several factors (Is the 10 an enthusiastic f*ck? Is she famous? is this a 1 off or a standing arrangement? Are any of them annoying? etc) Assuming all other things being equal, I'd rank my order of preference. two 7's (together) 10 two 7's one at a time.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/15 08:53 PM
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Reduced standard of living from an increase in single parent households. Higher crime rate and an increase in poverty from a lack of fathers. A de facto 'bachelor tax' to pay for all the cops/jails/welfare programs. Growth of Government, particularly the welfare state and surveillance/police state, corresponding loss of personal liberties. Repeat until civil upheaval/collapse.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/15 08:49 PM
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as in, the idea of being in a cuck relationship could be nothing more than a fate worse than hell for a RP? Language is a little strong, but cuckoldry is the literal Alpha F*cks/Beta Bucks dichotomy. Since TRP is about maximizing sexual success, and the alpha mating strategy is currently the most successful, most of TRP view cuckoldry as a sort of ultimate failure in the sexual market, where you provide comittment and resources, and not only don't receive sexual access in return, but it's given …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/15 07:55 PM
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Huh, most of the cuck related threads I see are BP initiated. Anyways, it probably strikes a nerve because it's AF/BB in it's most extreme sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/15 06:13 PM
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who is more right? Whichever sex she's trying to attract/have sex with.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/15 03:14 PM
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Life isn't fair...especially dating. Also, you aren't asking questions or positing debate topics. Frankly, if you're so concerned about whether a bunch of internet people would date/f*ck you, you should just post a picture rather than a vague description of yourself...also you need to get your self-esteem issues handled.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/15 12:32 AM
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I think the point here is that we're all hypocrites when it comes to partner preferences, so when a BPer calls a TRP guy who wants a low n-count partner a hypocrite, we all are. So get over it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/15 04:19 PM
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Depends. If by 'open relationship' he means his wife f*cks whomever and he stays at home and minds the house like a good maid, then yes, I pity/look down on him. If he is actually having an open relationship (i.e, actively hooking up with other women) then I don't look down on him. I do wonder why he got married though.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/15 02:22 PM
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Online dating is sh#t, nearly every TRP poster who discusses it agrees it's sh#t. Cold approach is better, but it's a low success rate proposition. The best way to meet attractive women is still and always will be through your social circle. BUT, if you're the type of guy who doesn't have access to women in your personal circle, your choices are basically Online/Cold approach. With all of the knowledge they have of sexual politics and SMV, why does the red pill refuse to give advice to guys on h…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/15 01:43 PM
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Violates the rules on formatting. Collect your thoughts and put it in the right format, then you can retry posting this.
/r/TheRedPill25/08/15 02:28 PM
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Are there any benefits to dating women really? Boobs are nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/15 01:48 PM
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When I first started participating here, it was probably or 4:1 Blue to Red, and some of my comments would regularly be down voted to <-4, as the sub has shifted to reach an equilibrium and even started to lean towards TRP somewhat, I don't commonly notice a quality comment with a score of <-1. Also, watching my votes throughout the day,I can tell you that my comments here are down voted quite a bit, just not more than they are upvoted. Which pill do you think downvotes posts more? As a whole, p…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/15 01:23 PM
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This place is starting to make me feel insecure. If you come here for validation, you're gonna have a real bad time...
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/15 05:46 PM
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Well, you must be dating girls who come from a privileged background. Because I have encountered plenty of younger girls who have baggage/attitude problems. The problems are less common and less developed. 18-21 is usually pre-hardcore party girl, pre-'rape culture' and pre-womyns studies. What happens when they complete college and have baggage? are you going to dump them? If they're with me during those years, I can use the benefit of my experience to help her avoid the major baggage pitfalls …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/15 05:31 PM
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If you're dating someone who has a child that's not yours and you don't want to take responsibility for the child- don't date that person. I'd say more make your boundaries and expectations clear from the start, and let her decide if she wants to keep seeing you or not. I don't think i'm obligated to raise her kid or make the responsible decision for her. I've dated girls with kids and always followed this rule. Some were looking for an I-can't-believe-it's-not-baby-daddy, and that's good, some …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/15 05:27 PM
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The preference isn't necessarily the physical youth, (although tight and perky never hurts) I prefer girls who are younger than me because they don't have the years of bad habits and cultural indoctrination that comes with a four year degree. In my experience, girls under 21 are much less likely to have the baggage and attitude problems of even their slightly older counterparts. If I meet a girl my age or even a bit older who still fits this criteria, I'd be equally interested in her.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/15 05:16 PM
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Alpha =/= Red Pill. A 'Red Pill' person is someone who is aware of the dynamics and impulses at play. An Alpha is about actions and appearances. A BP Alpha would be any guy who has always been good looking and a 'natural' with women. Ask a guy like this how to emulate their success with women and they'll just say some variation of 'be yourself man', because they've never had incentive to ask why they're successful. A 'RP' Beta example would be Louis C.K. If you ever watch/listen to him, Louie ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/15 01:36 PM
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As has been stated, this exists. As for why we don't make it public, it's because we aren't playing to you and want a private space to discuss these things.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/15 09:57 PM
2

...good luck to them both finding the perfect person who always sacrifices their wants and desires for the other person's. Ok, sure. No one's perfect, but still, only 70%? That's C-. Doesn't your friend deserve better than a C-?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/15 07:57 PM
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His needs/desires are still unmet though. Would you advise your friend to stay with a guy who only met 70% of her needs as a lover?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/15 07:24 PM
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I usually hold my bathroom needs through work meetings and other social engagements until socially appropriate to go to a restroom. Hold them for a week or so, then that will be a valid comparison. I also wait to eat when food is available and socially acceptable. Most people don't have sex unless a partner is available and their in a sex appropriate location, can you compromise on your urge to eat by eating only one normal meal a day when your body wants 3/day?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/15 07:22 PM
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Or they can compromise and have sex on both of their terms, not just his. How do you compromise on sex drive in a mutually satisfactory way? Does this work on other biological urges?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/15 06:35 PM
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Per your edit, I'm ignoring incels for this response, though I think the incel experience is something you'd have to address for this theory to gain traction. It's an interesting idea, but I don't think they are EQUAL phenomena, if only because it's inappropriate to compare a lack of something to a surplus of that thing, whether the surplus is desired or not. Hand in hand with lack of sex is often lack of intimacy, both physical and emotional, which is a problem that having more than your quota …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/15 06:33 PM
2

Upvote, on PPD
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/15 03:01 AM
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Everyone gets downvoted. Stop crying about fake internet points.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/15 06:04 PM
1

Sexuality is similar, sex drive is where the gap becomes huge.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/15 02:19 PM
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It's impressive, but doesn't increase my level of sexual attraction unless she already hits/exceeds the physical threshold for sexual attraction. To contrast, imagine a balding, morbidly obese millionaire who spends his vast wealth running several charities bringing clean water to African villages and improving public schools in low income areas. An admirable man to be sure, but I doubt he'd have many young women chomping at the bit to f*ck him, unless there was some sort of BB payout.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/15 02:16 PM
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So you're admitting that women in marriage are as immoral and predatory as BPers claim TRP to be? Then I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/15 02:02 PM
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And for you, what do you lose for having not gotten laid? Nothing really. You have very little concept of the male sex drive... What about a virgin in his twenties who suffers from depression?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/15 09:26 PM
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I'd give myself a small cut to save someone from breaking their leg. Do you really think that's a fair comparison?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/15 08:25 PM
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Your ability to get laid is definitely not more important than other people's emotions. Why should I value the feelings of some random girl more than my own?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/15 06:22 PM
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Looks are a lesser factor for most men, An average looking guy isn't really helped or hurt by his appearance, but a low SMV man is killed by it. 1-4: Looks matter hugely and actively prevent you from getting laid. A 1-3 man has no hope of sex without financial assistance (and heavy assistance at that). A 4 may get somewhere with a lot of other good qualities, but he's usually relegated to BB status. 5-7: Looks are a piece of the puzzle. You aren't losing points on appearance, but you aren't gett…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/15 06:17 PM
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I would modify the provisions slightly. Only qualifies if the spouse in question has no income stream, the marriage lasted at least 3 years, and produced children. Not to exceed 4 years (tops) Capped at $2,000k/month Cannot be awarded to petitioner for divorce in a no fault case.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/15 02:53 PM
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It would make me like having her around more, which would create more opportunity for attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/15 09:25 PM
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They don't, except insomuch as I have a knee jerk reaction to inanity. When I used online dating, I wouldn't even read the profile until a message or two in. I AM NOT INTERESTED IN ANYTHING ITHER THAN BEING FRIENDS. Period.I can assure you it will not be with the demanding boy child who is crowing about the size of his dick and how all I need is a good fuck to solve all my problems. So a dating site is clearly a reasonable place for you to be...
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/15 01:43 PM
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I'm confident we're safe for the immediate term. Nothing currently on the sub suggests an imminent ban.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/15 05:42 AM
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let's define a basic moral truth: that to cause unnecessary pain and suffering to other humans is an injustice. A big assumption: But ok. How does the potential pain of dread game style manipulation compare to the suffering of an incel who is physically and emotionally isolated? At what point do you think the pain of loneliness outweighs the risk of causing potential pain with dread?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/15 05:41 AM
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You're not the type we're talking about here. We're talking about the sorority BJ queen who decided soon after marriage it's 'icky'. If you tried anal one time, hated it and never did it again, then that's reasonable. I might say try it once for verification (and because he wants to try it), but there's no shame in not adding it to your list of sex time activities. If by "tried anal before with my ex" you mean "did anal for the whole relationship", then I think you at least owe your current bf a…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/15 03:22 PM
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It's been a while since I've dated someone seriously or exclusively enough to care, but for me it would come down more to where/ with whom she was travelling.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/15 06:08 PM
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Since the concept of kings and rulers existed throughout history, we can assume that they are representatives of the tribal alpha males. However, since the populations increased so dramatically, rulers have lost all monopoly on reproduction. The sexual marketplace is one of the few local markets left. If you're really hot in Japan, but a schmuck in your rural Iowa hometown, in terms of dating, you're a schmuck. You're right in that we don't/won't have another King Solomon with his 700 wives and …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/15 05:55 PM
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motte and bailey fallacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/15 01:36 PM
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A. TRP isn't activist by nature. We discuss theories, and leave it to the individuals to take action. Some TRP members are MRAs, some aren't. Just because 1 or 2 people subscribe to both subs and are critical of you, doesn't mean it's an issue for TRP as a whole. B. This rant is non-germane to a TRP/BP discussion/debate. C. Most of your post/replies are whiny. If you're representative of the current /r/MensRights, then I understand why the TRPers who pay attention to you think the sub is low qua…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/15 01:25 PM
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I think our modern western system has a strong vested interest in encouraging men to be betas, as alphas/playboys are not exactly stable building blocks for society. I don't think most women are intentionally dishonest, but I think there are some who realize that they're using beta nice guys, which is why some women get so defensive if the subject comes up.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/15 08:53 PM
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I'd f*ck a butterface with a body but an LTR would need a good face.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/15 04:06 AM
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I view sexism as 'the belief that the sexes are inherently different.' Misogyny is the hatred of women because the genetic lottery gave them an inny instead of an outy.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/15 04:04 AM
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