New Subscriber: Help me understand the hate towards Betas

BloodRoseTRP · 2013-11-13T15:12:31+00:00

Disdain is more correct. It's like watching someone trying to walk thru a wall to get to the next room and they get mad when you point out the door a few feet to the side of them....then they continue to keep attempting to walk thru the wall.

It feels the same way when you point out to fat people the ways they could eat healthier.

I just had an epiphany. Blue pill is addictive behavior, same as being fat.

expat229 · 2013-11-13T19:33:55+00:00

If you were obese and worked out/dieted hard and lost 100+ pounds, and every obese person you met said they lose weight by thinking positive thoughts (just be yourself equivalent), you'd fucking hate them too.

I_put_mukmuk_on_face · 2013-11-13T15:45:12+00:00

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assinmygenes · 2013-11-13T18:34:59+00:00

The only beta I hate is the one I used to be.

drrrrrr · 2013-11-13T23:06:53+00:00

Why do you think society has gotten to this point? Is it the women's fault for the pussification of the American male, the anti-male nature of public education, the societal "feminist" attitudes on dating, the constant white knighting, and the imbalances in divorce / custody courts?

NO. They were acting in what they believed was their best interest, and although they were wrong, they were simply doing what RP believes people do - act to maximize their own utility / interests.

Men are responsible for it. We built the world's science, technology, governments, legal systems, education systems, militaries, social welfare systems, and media. Beta males responded so horribly to the constant shit-tests of third wave feminism, cultural marxism, anti-traditionalism, and female mediocrity that these bullshit ideas become the dominant ones.

Betas accepted a collective guilt for the sins of the "patriarchy" of the past for no reason other than to appease women. There is disdain for betas because it is their behavior that reinforces the modern woman's worst behaviors. And it is beta males who are most snide, most hateful of ideologies like RP because RP says "YOU are responsible for what's wrong with your life. Quit feeling guilty for being a man and quit trying to make women like you by being less manly."

The production of shitty societal ideas and attitudes may come from women and men alike, but it's men's acceptance or even silence in the face of these shitty attitudes that has slowly stripped American society of what once made it great.

expat229 · 2013-11-13T14:41:11+00:00

Easy: Beta-hating is directly proportionate to how close the hater is to being beta times how badly he wants to stop being beta.

That is, if you're a beta desperately trying to pass as alpha, you'll spew beta-hatred like a mo'-fo'.

Beta-hatred is stupid and a waste of time—and I suspect the ones who practice it the most are precisely those most afraid that they are still betas at heart.

Concentrate on changing into what you want to become.

Me, I never said, "I hate betas!" I used to say, "I suck at getting girls—how can I change that?" That's the attitude I would recommend to you. Hatred is just a waste of energy.

Just my 2¢.

redpill80 · 2013-11-13T21:03:36+00:00

betas are terrible friends. I dont like being sold out for a girl

Archwinger · 2013-11-13T23:20:04+00:00

Most RP advocates don't "hate" beta males any more than they hate women. Just like with women, they just understand the nature of beta men, what makes them tick, what to expect from them, and make a decision regarding the time and resources to devote to each beta male issue on a case by case basis.

I think something most people around here really do hate, however, is stupidity. You don't hate a beta guy for being beta and not knowing any better. You hate a beta guy who, after being screwed over and proven to be a chump time and time again, still insists on insanely sticking to a flawed strategy, while ridiculing TRP, trolling reddit spewing RP hate, calling more successful guys stupid rapists, and just plain refusing to recognize reality when it's been shoved up their asses dozens of times -- and not by TRP, by women.

md619 · 2013-11-13T22:09:54+00:00

There are some good answers so far but I think it goes deeper than most guys realize.

A lot of betas are pussies. There's no way around it. They're weak and submissive. They're afraid of conflict because they lack courage, self-confidence and self-respect.

Men are pack animals. If you have someone holding back the pack, everyone suffers. There's a reason you don't want kids who are pussies on your football team. Betas are the type of guys that would get you killed in a war because he shit his pants and ran away crying instead of staying and fighting.

TheeRyanGrey · 2013-11-14T00:31:40+00:00

Have you ever been watching a movie or TV show and a man does something that makes you cringe?

That man was a beta doing beta things and we as humans have a naturally aversion to its unnatural awkwardness.

We don't hate betas, we're embarrassed for them. They sit around and white knight and cape women, hoping that by going against their natures, they'll get the sex their nature tells them to have.

Now THAT. IS. IRONY.

2013-11-13T14:49:27+00:00

Alpha behaviour isn't necessarily an a priori truth. You may need to contrast it with beta behaviour in order to demonstrate the consequences of each mode of thought. Hence sometimes, in making the advantages of our approach demonstrable, it may come out as a bit of beta hate. However, I'm all for helping my brothers see the light, and hatred has no place in that.

MockingDead · 2013-11-13T18:21:17+00:00

I don't hate them:

If they haven't swallowed TRP, I pity them If they struggle with TRP, I support them If they deny TRP I ignore them.

vox_veritas · 2013-11-13T16:15:12+00:00

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2013-11-13T22:42:26+00:00

When we hate on a beta we're really hating the weakest part of ourselves, that part we're working to eliminate, and looking at a genuine beta is a window back in to the weak-willed wimp we used to be.

GayLubeOil · 2013-11-14T03:20:26+00:00

Because whenever you are
Pushing it to the Limit, walking along the razor's edge
There is always some Beta whining that you should slow down That your too extreme, that XYZ is unfair, or that you should turn back.

FortunateBum · 2013-11-14T21:16:46+00:00

O god damn. Typical Reddit straw man bullshit. On MY redpill?

Look, you got a problem with something, give examples. Link to posts. Something. This right here is the kind of thing dumb chicks do. (tee hee, why does everyone on Reddit hate women? tee hee)

NO

Either be specific, or don't post.

As for beta hatred in general? Sorry, I don't see it. Unless you have an example.

2FAM0US · 2013-11-13T14:39:20+00:00

nah i don't hate em. somebody has to take the leftovers when i'm done. cant have everybody cramming the 20% that math just wouldn't work out.

there is nothing wrong with being a beta, chicks need a provider and a shoulder to cry on. keep doing what you are doing, it is a noble cause.

p.s. fatties need love too <3

the99percent1 · 2013-11-13T19:04:21+00:00

I dont mind betas tbh. I just dont like hanging around them though. A lot of the things they do just make me cringe inside..

Most of them are boring to talk to. They stick with conservative subjects. The only time I interact with betas is at work or at some function. They always ask the lamest questions.. What do you do for work? How are you today? When is so and so playing each other? Fuck. That. Shit.

I personally enjoy interacting with people who make statements instead of questions. 'How good is this music!' 'Such a wonderful day like this should be spent out in the ocean', so on so forth. Guys who talk like that get my approval immediately. Leave the questions that sound like an interrogation to interested women will ya..

I personally go out alone. Eat at a busy restaurant alone, coz i enjoy the food. Do shit alone because I dont derive pleasure from company. Either that or I have 1 or 2 women hanging around me or either a handful of close alpha friends.. Who non-coincidently have 1 or 2 women hanging around them too. Kid you not, we go out, maybe 4 guys. Each come back with on average 2 girls on our sides. In fact just the weekend past, i was sat at a restaurant table after a night out clubbing with 4 guys, and 11 girls. I looked around and notice the rest of my alpha friends doing the same. We were nodding approvingly at each other. It was a beautiful thing. Even more beautiful than the fact each of us got laid multiple times that weekend. Not a single one of us mentioned it though on Monday. It was like its assumed and we move on to discuss more important topics at hand. Chatter about girls were to a minimum.

Betas dont get to experience that feeling. I feel bad for them and their mumble talk. The sooner I can get the fuck away from interacting with them, the better off I'd be.

Title	New Subscriber: Help me understand the hate towards Betas
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Date	November 13, 2013 2:27 PM UTC (12 years ago)
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