Please help me understand [19/F]

Master1176 · 2015-10-23T22:23:09+00:00

What? A woman invading a male space looking for attention, and telling us how to behave?

I've never heard of such a thing.

/s

always-be-closing · 2015-10-23T22:34:34+00:00

TL;DR - - if you as a woman go into the men's locker room shower and see a guy's hairy balls, don't tell him to cover up. You're the one that walked into the locker room shower, and locker room showers aren't for being covered up in clothing

This post from RedPillWomen is something you should consider reading.

You're very potentially part of its audience, seeing as you're self aware enough to appreciate that this is in fact a sub meant as sexual strategy/pro-masculinity and isn't inherently wrong.

But why do you guys seem so angry at women?

A lot of men here, particularly younger ones but plenty of older ones (where the rage can really be), are men who have been lied to, and who have been abused or mistreated or simply not gotten women - - any at all - - because of the societal lies about what women are and want.

Consider for a moment that as a nineteen year old girl inwhat I presume is the Western world; you are socially more valuable than almost anyone else.

Not because of anything you've done or merited - - but because of your youth, likely your health/attractiveness as a young healthy woman, and the realities of how society currently is (even if you have no plans to reproduce)

If you're white, doubly, or triply so.

You are fundamentally construed as more valuable, more 'precious', more worthy, and sought after on a demographic basis by the entirety of broad societal institutions that can deliver on actual material privilege than literally anyone else.

Police prioritize you if you go missing, the selective service isn't going to draft you, the federal government working with universities have huge numbers (backed by dollars) of initiatives to help you get an education and career, the courts system is far less likely to apply the same punitive standards to you as a man your age, etc.

This, and the fact that you will almost certainly never be as deprived of the choice and ability to become sexually intimate with a partner as men are - - you'll never be single like a guy can be single - - all becomes brutally apparent to a lot of men who haven't built themselves up and bettered themselves.

Some of them after many, many years of abuse and neglect (much of it self neglect), sometimes coming from women, often times, just the world around them.

Most of the men here are not happy men.

try to be kind at the same time. Try to not judge and give people the benefit of the doubt. Try not to be bitter.

I can understand and respect the sentiment here.

This is actually part of the advice many will give to the angriest/most bitter on TRP:

"Don't hate fish for swimming"

But, fundamentally, what you're doing is borne out of personal ignorance.

Actually, the complete opposite of TRP knows this is a thing:

http://www.uwsp.edu/acadaff/NewFacultyResources/NFSRacialMicroaggressions_Table.pdf

Color Blindness

Statements that indicate that a White person does not want to acknowledge race

“When I look at you, I don’t see color.” “America is a melting pot.” “There is only one race, the human race.”

Denying a person of color’s racial / ethnic experiences.

The merits of "microaggressions" and diagnosing and preventing them in university aside (cue my eyes rolling) - - - you can understand how it might be seen as boorish for a well off suburban white person to believe there aren't real reasons a black man might feel very differently about the police than they do, right?

Well...

....there are very real reasons men should feel a little bitter about their pasts, should resent how much society lies to them in order to keep them from making themselves better, should be deeply suspicious of most women, and should prioritize their own betterment over the supplication to the demands of women around them who are not giving them anything -- from sex to basic respect.

If they do not do these things, they will be denied a crucial part of their growth and journey.

Dustin_Bromain · 2015-10-23T22:59:44+00:00

Great, now the solipsistic fish are here on Red Pill, trying to tell us how to think and act. Someone, please, get rid of this post. "I find the manner in which women are kind of generalized here troubling and I feel like you guys should be less defensive". Well I FEEL like you should fuck off and get out of our male space. This is a forum for men, by men. Your emotionally-riddled opinions and feelings carry absolutely no weight here.

sir_wankalot_here · 2015-10-23T22:15:26+00:00

But why do you guys seem so angry at women? I'm one myself and I do admit that there are some Devils among us not every woman/girl is out on your money or out on using you or wants to trap you with a child, we're not all trying to pass with a "pussypass".

Substitute the word guy with black, and the word women with white. Wait it sounds like a white guy talking to a black guy in 1950 Alabama. Not all white guys are bad, I admit there are some bad white guys, but just because you as a black guy have to ride at the back of the bus.

Oh and in 1950 Albama the word of a white guy always takes precedence over the black guy's word. But not all white guys use this to their advantage.

I support equal opportunity, what feminists want isn't equal opportunity but payback for oppression that was allegedly happening before I was born. And other women that stand by and watch what feminists are doing, but do nothing. Well you are just like that white guy in 1950 Alabama that sits back and watches the klu klux klan linch a nigger and burn him alive.

BowlOfCandy · 2015-10-23T22:22:27+00:00

The anger is a phase, it's normal. Those who do not understand the red pill are entirely put off by the theories because of the anger and misogyny they witness in the community. It's a human reaction to being lied to and misled your entire life when it comes to relationships and sexual strategy with women.

The analogy of the red pill is a heuristic tool to explain the unplugging process, i.e. you take the red pill and become aware of the harshness of reality and accept the truth, or you [continue to] take the blue pill and return to ignorance.

The red pill is a community that has come together to explain these truths. Some key ones:

Sexual strategy is amoral.
Equality between sexes is a falsehood, our biology calls for a King/Queen or Captain/First mate dynamic. Women don't want to be your mommy, they want a masculine leader.
Briffault's Law: A woman will only associate with a man if she can benefit from the association.
Women are victims to hypergamy, which is based on evolutionary biology. They cannot help it, the red pill is a tool to teach men awareness of this feature. This is the fundamental core concept that differentiates the way that men and women love.
You do not chase women - women are a byproduct. Focus on self improvement and your own needs, a woman will come along and want to be a part of it.

I am a red pill man. I have a girlfriend who I treat with respect. I also am aware of her hypergamous nature, it does not bother me because I am aware of it. I am in charge of this relationship, it is a red pill relationship. I employ abundance mentality and have complete control to walk away at any time. I judge my partner for her behavior and hold her accountable for it. I do not focus on her, I focus on my needs and welcome her to be a part of my experience. A certain worldview has taken hold of our societies, somehow, in the preceding decades, that has had the net result of disenfranchising men and relegating masculinity to remote frozen wastes. I focus on my masculinity, I embrace it, I am not ashamed a damn bit. She gives me shit for being masculine, she also fucking loves it.

[deleted] · 2015-10-23T22:41:24+00:00

19 years old fish gives advice, not only about fishing but about how to live your life and "get the most out of it", whatever that means. Unsolicited advice straight out of a pinterest image with the Universe in the background. Uses " I feel scared", "preoccupying" to appear cute and innocent. All this under the misleading title of wanting to understand something. Is met with " many guys here feel like..." Type of explanation/apologies.

Long time reader. Subscribed just to say that I am disappoint. Even if she genuinely wanted to understand (which she's not. Right after the title she framed it as her being concerned and scared, almost raped lol). What do you have to gain from girls understanding TRP? Here's an analogy. You're a magician and enjoy discussing magic with others on a forum. Comes a spectator who enjoys magic, mildly insults you to get you to qualify yourself ("it's really impressive what you can do on stage and I enjoyed the show very much, but it's kinda weird to spend so much time practicing and talking about magic. I am worried about my safety"). And then you go on to explain not only how your tricks work but why you're into magic as well. What did you gain as a magician? Talk about pussypass.

@OP You have life and happiness figured out. Congratulations? Now go back to Pinterest sweetheart.

max_peenor · 2015-10-23T22:45:15+00:00

we're not all trying to pass with a "pussypass".

Why wouldn't you? It would be a giant bag of stupid with tard kittens mixed in to give up something like that. Look, we don't blame women for using the pussypass. We blame ourselves for letting such a thing become possible.

SgtBrutalisk · 2015-10-23T22:23:34+00:00

Anger is what fuels men. The only way I can change anything in my life is if I get angry and then channel that energy into a constructive outlet.The fact that you seem shocked by the amount of anger in here shows two things:

One, there are no media outlets for men, otherwise you would be seeing much more anger and,

Two, men you had the chance to know are domesticated. Rather than think that anger is "wrong", why don't you consider the possibility that men as you see them here are the healthy and normal ones? Welcome, you've just swallowed The Red Pill.

thebadmanpuntdbaxter · 2015-10-23T22:26:21+00:00

Many guys here feel like they've been lied to for the greater part of their life. They've been told by society that muscles, intelligence, and status don't make a man. After being cheated on, divorce raped, or incelled they now want answers.

There's logic past the anger here. Guys take in the theory that hits way to close to home. All of a sudden all of their problems make sense. But this also brings out vengeful feeling for whoever steered them wrong in the first place whether it be the media, betas, females. They want back the time and money that was wasted chasing a fairytale.

The anger is only temporary, though it doesn't seem so since new men are coming here every day. There will always be guys in the anger phase. This is a place where they can vent their frustration with support. AWALT isn't meant to imply that every woman is a horrible slut. It means, whether she admits it or not, that for the longevity of her offspring she will find the man with the most promise physically, intelligently, and socially.

Title	Please help me understand [19/F]
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Date	October 23, 2015 10:06 PM UTC (10 years ago)
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