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Please Stop With The Bitching and Crying

TheeRyanGrey

November 28, 2013
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Title Please Stop With The Bitching and Crying
Author

TheeRyanGrey

Upvotes 52
Comments 75
Date November 28, 2013 11:01 PM UTC
(12 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/TheRedPill
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/1roa61/please_stop_with_the_bitching_and_crying/
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Comments

[–][deleted] 12 years ago* (11 children) | Copy Link

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[–]ThisisMalta 16 points17 points18 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Bingo.."Concern trolling attention grab"

[–]Evers89 11 points12 points13 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Agreed. I remember that thread. I didn't buy it and his rebuttals weren't sufficient.

It's a public forum. People are gonna post what they see fit. If it comes down to it, the senior members from this sub will swiftly correct them in these individual threads.

This public service announcement doesn't change anything and I for one like seeing these examples of girls being girls. It needs to be shown so as to lend credence to what we think.

That being said, the other side of TRP theory is doing whatever you wish as long as you are constantly improving and have the proper respect for yourself. Women are the side effect of this.

We need both sides of it to continue.

[–]BorMato 6 points7 points8 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's as if OP is ignorant of the "Red Pill Theory" flair, in which he can weed out the posts he doesn't wanna see.

[–]BorMato 15 points16 points17 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Fuckin eh man! OP's stupid little revenge fantasy is just as pathetic as the guys who complain about female privilege.

While I agree that this sub has seen an increase in the male bitching, I believe it is a part of the process. I started out angry and complained but now, months later, it's fade(d)/(ing). It's the hostile posts like this one that make me want to leave this sub. It seems like there is a trend growing where we are supposed to be Alpha 24/7 and if we aren't we are downvoted. If I recall, this is a discussion forum. Obviously in the discussion people are going to vent and complain.

To OP I say this: If you don't like it, don't read it or upvote it, but don't talk to us like you are some sort of Alpha god and we are just a bunch of pussies. We are never going to be able to help more men take back their lives if we expect them to just "get it" after reading a couple posts.

[–]Politikon 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

TheeRyanGrey will probably wait a couple of days then post again, hoping that we will forget that he has destroyed his reputation among the RP community. What a silly man-child.

[+][deleted] -25 points-24 points-23 points 12 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

stalk much

[–]Aizande11 points 12 years ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

I haven't bothered to delve into the shit you've just been called out on, but this reply speaks volumes.

[+][deleted] -6 points-5 points-4 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

i know right!

it's crazy how many stalkers i get just from posting!

glad you can see it, too

[–][deleted] 12 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

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[+][deleted] -6 points-5 points-4 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

there goes that hamster again

calling you a stalker isn't an insult, it's the truth.

[–]BorMato 14 points15 points16 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Mhhhmmm, and you think a post in which YOU bitch and complain is going to stop it? Like you're doing your part to "save" this sub? Be the change you wanna see in this sub.

Don't like a post? Ignore it, don't upvote it. Better yet, click on the "Red Pill Theory" flair and just read those posts. But don't come in here and dictate what makes "real men." You are no better or worse than the rest of us.

[+][deleted] -13 points-12 points-11 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

you're taking it personal

does criticism always make you this defensive

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points9 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Noobs don't understand that the ultimate goal of TRP is to get to a place where women are a decidedly positive element in your life, to understand them, to accept and love them for what they are.

Perhaps those who come here following our "the women-hating subreddit" label, never will.

[–][deleted] -5 points-4 points-3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

yuuuuuup.

we love women here. we want them to have positive affects on our lives and we realize we need to lead them there. we do what's best for both of us round here.

[–]RedSunBlue 17 points18 points19 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This sounds like concern trolling to me.

[–]Clauderoughly 3 points4 points5 points 12 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

I think we are seeing the influx of college age guys who are getting burned hard by the 80/20 rule, hence all the whining.

[–]watersign 4 points5 points6 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

yup. i was once there, it sucks. i didnt know about this subreddit though until a few months ago and just kept thinking about it to myself lol

[–]LasherDeviance 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

True. Only a few months ago, the average age of a poster here was 27-40. Now it seems the average age of the newer posters here are 20-27. Also, their lack of lifee experience is a good tell of age as well. Not that I care, I think TRP should be swallowed at the onset of puberty.

[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points0 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

i think we're just seeing an influx of butthurt guys who think this is a forum to complain about women.

that's what MRA is for

[–]Clauderoughly 3 points4 points5 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Except MR has been taken over by feminists, white knights and male feminists.

The shit is leaking into our sub now

[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points0 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

and it takes constant vigilance to keep us strong.

kill the weeds before they destroy the garden

[–][deleted] 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

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[–]rule_of_law 3 points4 points5 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Part of the problem is that the media doesn't do those looking to have a positive red pill attitude any favors.

There are plenty of red pill women out there who behave in the way we admire. They're called housewives. Guess who the feminists hate to talk about? Housewives.

If there are any sluts out there who don't end up demanding a commitment from a member of the male gender at the drop of a hat (aka 30), and are ok with just being in a non-marriage relationship instead, then they should be celebrated too.

[–][deleted] -5 points-4 points-3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

it's the equivalent of feminism posting shit about patriarchy

or blue pill posting whatever it is they post about

real men don't bitch and complain: we find problems and solve them.

[–]widec 20 points21 points22 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Preach it. I began reading this subreddit because it brought up some interesting things that both sexes are programmed to do by evolution, it's really changed the way I approach people. I can do without the posts of making examples of less enlightened men (blue pill) and woman privilege.

[–]ItsYourHandInMine 4 points5 points6 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

We need more red pill flair posts, too much blue pilling recently.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

we're still men, right?

[+][deleted] -8 points-7 points-6 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

a few blue pill posts here and there. a few examples of the nature of women there.

that's all we need.

[–]No_DOX_for_you 5 points6 points7 points 12 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

Agreed, but it's not gonna stop brah. Resentment is the natural first response to emotional pain. Most people come here after great emotional pain so by the transitive property a lot of the posts here are going to be filled with indignant resentment.

But here's the thing. The Red Pill doesn't have to be politically correct. It doesn't have to be polite. We're already hated and nothing will change that so really, just let the bitter misogyny take it's course. The newbies here need an outlet. They'll learn the error of their ways soon enough.

[–][deleted] -5 points-4 points-3 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

I get it. I was angry, too. But I didn't post here when I was angry. I got all of that shit out then began talking about my life and my world once I had gotten past it.

I will repeat this topic every week if I have to. Constant and relentless vigilance is required to keep things strong.

[–]Delixcroix 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Please don't repost this every week... Bitching about new members becoming META is something nobody wants. Instead of getting mad about it and acting like a utopian douche you should help some people swallow the red pill and be mindful that it is not an easy pill to swallow for people who spent 20-30 years of Man shaming. This is where the boys learn to become men. Discuss how they can be better people, and better people are more attractive.

You sounded bitter in the OP and that isn't something you should make a habit of repeating. Lots of people are bitter but if you are past that is time to solve that bitterness with knowledge. Do you know what I mean? Making a weekly whiny post isn't going to improve the community. Helping the community will help the community. I am here as an MRA not a college frat-child trying to get laid.

I want to help make men better and I think you do to but this isn't the right way to do it.

[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points0 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I'll repost it every day if i feel like the message isn't getting through

[–]SeductiveGrasshopper -3 points-2 points-1 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Those are weak man. If they want to complain about their failures they can go and post that somewhere else. Once they are ready to move on and improve, they can come here and learn with the rest of us. Just no Bitch Fits, that is for little girls.

[–]No_DOX_for_you 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I AGREE but red pill is about accepting the truth, is it not?

Look, I understand the purpose of this thread. It's to get the word out. That's fine. BUT, all I'm saying is I don't see shit changing. There's always gonna be that bitter minority here.

[–]Delixcroix 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Your not here to cry about bitchfits. You are hear to teach them how to be real men. You have to realize all these people were raised incorrectly by feminist bullshit and man shaming. Naturally they are angry. This is where they learn to become men. DO your job and steer them the correct way, if you are just here to complain about people seeking red pill wisdom you probably don't belong here.

You can tell people they are weak all the time but honestly Feminism does a fine job pointing that out already. We are supposed to teach them how to be strong not complain about their weakness.

[–]TRP Vanguard: "Dark Triad Expert"IllimitableMan 9 points10 points11 points 12 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Basically men need to be arseholes of a sociopathic nature to get chicks but when they find a chick who they perceive of value their souls get fucking raped and the bitches are oblivious to their own destruction. I respect men because they must deal with the extremities that women are saved from. Men are the best of humanity come pain or pleasure. Perversely, men are beautiful. I sound fucking crazy but I believe this shit.

[–]BorMato 8 points9 points10 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

YOU are beautiful IllimitableMan. Don't you forget it.

[–]TRP Vanguard: "Dark Triad Expert"IllimitableMan 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Is it the hair gel?

[–]LasherDeviance 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Tis' true my friend.

[+][deleted] -8 points-7 points-6 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

a lot of truth here behind a lot of crazy but i dig it

[–]TRP Vanguard: "Dark Triad Expert"IllimitableMan 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Your attempt at a compliment is very touching Ryan

[–]Redpillc0re 5 points6 points7 points 12 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

This mostly has to do with unrealistic expectation. Whole generations of men were brought up with fairytales, movies and shows about what delicate flowers women are. "Nag Nag this is not what it said in the box".

[–][deleted] -5 points-4 points-3 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

agreed. single mom america fucked us over.

but this is not the place to whine about it. go to MRA. get your anger out. then come here and learn how to appreciate how amazing you are.

[–]Delixcroix 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

This isn't the place to whine about it but this is the place to talk about it. Don't be a dumb shut in. Theres nothing to talk about if there is no context. Are you here to help men or are you here to try to effeminate men with your gay as fuck glory stories? Who the hell are you trying to impress? Don't have such a negative attitude towards people wanting red pill wisdom They post to be taught from people who have seen the truth. Not to be scolded by some bitter asshole who thinks he is better than his fellow man.

If you give a shit about the red pill share it. Sure enough feminist theories breeding all these BP's so it's up to Red Pill to teach what we can when we can. And Feminism left a hell of a fucking mess to clean up on Mankind.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

if you're taking my criticism this personally then it was clearly intended for you.

like i tell women all the time: men ignore shit that doesn't concern them, blue pillers and women can't wait to tell you how much you bother them

[–]Redpillc0re 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Where the fuck did i whine? I wasn't brought up in single mom america, lucky me.

[–]czk3 points 12 years ago* [recovered] (3 children) | Copy Link

Meh, guys always having to be brave, non-emotional rocks is a society imposed behavioural expectation. We know that they're just like any other people and need to deal with emotions sometimes. These men-devoted-sites should be a safe haven for them to rant and vent, and get advice with impunity. Telling them to suck it up, because it hurts your pride to see men so vulnerable and weak, that is not a real man.

[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points0 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

nowhere in my post do i tell you to be a brave, non emotional rock

and you can get that "behavioral expectation" shit outta here. most of you british dudes are suffering from a brainwashing the likes of which the world hasn't seen since religion; your ideas of what a man should and shouldn't be are fucked.

[–]xaxr 6 points7 points8 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

But It's so easy to bash women...

[–][deleted] -4 points-3 points-2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

go to MRA with that shit.

we love women round here

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 12 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

I get what you're saying, but you gotta keep posting the same thing over and over because the influx of new dudes keeps a steady stream of NAWALT spouting bros getting massive upvotes and it's not gonna be long before this sub is totally overwhelmed by them. See the *comments section of "I'm going to fuck your girl" for examples

[–][deleted] -4 points-3 points-2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

i liked "I'm Going To Fuck Your Girl". Shit was blunt, harash, and to the fucking point.

I'm going to spend New Years in Vegas for the umpteenth time in a row. And for the umpteenth time in a row I will watch people's girlfriends getting fucked, sucked, and gangbanged every which way.

[–]selfsufficientnigga 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I agree. That is for /r/MensRights and /r/MensRants .

But let's not put people like that down, just because someone is a typical beta/feels comfortable being a beta doesn't mean he deserves being used and bled dry by women.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

that's EXACTLY what it means. that's their position in life. they give the resources, time, and attention we don't want to give.

[–]selfsufficientnigga 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I am making a distinction between 'beta' and 'blue-pill' here, and it appears you are not.

Most MGTOW people, for example, could be described as 'beta', but they choose to not spend resources, time and attention. Following the alpha-mode/red-pill principles also has inherent cost (especially for introverts), and for some people doing the alpha/red-pill thing is too much effort just for some vagoo.

I am simply saying that people who are like that also have a right to exist, without having to conform to either-alpha-or-doormat binary setting.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Rants on this sub should be specific to that person's experience...if you have been fucked over by a woman and need a place to vent, then welcome bro.

On the other hand, it's already been pretty well established here that women have it better in society and will use any means possible to fuck men over for their own benefit. Unless someone has some actual discussion points to add, those posts should be deleted. Anything else is preaching to the choir.

The report button. Use it liberally

[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points0 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

if you need to vent go to MRA. that's what that place is for, getting that childish anger out.

we're here for more than that.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

/r/MensRights is never going to give a sound response to that venting...to much about feelings and validation. Most men who come here to vent are also seeking advice as to their best response. And let's face it, they're never going to get non-blue-pilled advice from the MRAs.

It's unfortunate that they have to come here to get a red-pilled response to their venting, but it is what it is. Maybe RPS should start /r/RedPillRanting or something of that nature

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

that would be phenomenal.

a place for guys to rant, get the anger out, and then move on

[–]dreguan 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

This post walks a fine line between motivational and self-congratulatory masturbation It walks that line well, never quite dipping into the latter Great Job!

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

this right here is the shit i like to see, a man comfortable in his own skin to not be butt hurt and offended and see every opinion that makes him feel something as a slight against his character personally.

the people who claim i'm here to brag or such are just venting jealousies they themselves possess. they WANT to come here and brag and congratulate themselves but they don't have the fucking balls so it's easier to try and shame me.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

The problem is that a lot of people migrated here after r/mensrights gained steam.

When that subreddit became too candyland for me I found this place (and even this place gets too PC and hamstery sometimes).

[–]LasherDeviance 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The PC-ness and the hamstering comes from dudes being on other subs prior to this one where they have to have to be that way. Motherfuckers learn really fast to not hold back, or they get lost in the wallah of all the other butthurt, and angry noobs.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

that's what a lot of redditors, in their insane solipsism, don't register:

they, like women, can't think outside of themselves; and since they've seen a post or topic they assume EVERYONE has seen it.

we get new people every day and until a topic like this becomes sticky, i'm gonna keep it going.

[–]cagethepepper 2 points2 points2 points 12 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Fuck you I won't do what you tell me!

[–][deleted] -4 points-3 points-2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

are you raging against the machine

[–]JonnyBeanBag 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I agree.

I also feel that there is too much "seddit" bullshit in here too. How to get girls 101 is over there -->

This is about evolving as a man, solving/understanding the conflict in our conscious and subconscious minds that Blue Pill society has forced us to believe is status quo, smashing these paradigms and living free.

How to be a man 101, you found it. Please, stay for a while, have this whiskey and grow with us. Welcome home brother.

[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points0 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yup.

If you want pick up lessons go to Seddit

If you wanna bitch about women go to MRA

if you wanna learn to be a man and watch women come to you so you no longer have to bitch about them, stay here.

[–]SpaceMoonstar 2 points2 points2 points 12 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Agreed. I have unsubscribed from this subreddit four times already because I couldn't take the constant "Here's an article where a woman gets something we don't, now let's circlejerk over it."

I'm all for facts and reality checks, but it's always the same thing regurgitated to ad nauseum and it doesn't help. It's too much negativity.

[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points0 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

yup.

with any culture you'll get betas clinging on to it trying to be apart of something.

Every year in my fraternity rush we had 2-3 real alphas looking to form a bond, grow as men, and have fun. then you have a ton of guys just looking to be apart of something and get sloppy drunk to make themselves feel better.

[–][deleted] 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

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[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

if you can't tell the difference between bitching and criticizing then you don't matter

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

This post, and some of the comments on it, are some of the first things I've read on here besides sidebar stuff that not only are unapologetic, but that also simultaneously feel empowering rather than depressing.

The post recently about "why I'm fucking your girlfriend" was honest and brutal. It depressed me. And obviously the OP doesn't "owe anyone anything", and my sense of hope matters nothing toward his personal conquests. But personally, I much prefer the ideal of an alpha as one who naturally, at no expense to themselves, uplifts others to their higher potential.

this post, however, really helps someone like me, new to TRP, see hope for men at least banding together in some fashion. Even if only for our own personal gain. Self preservation is ultimately amoral and should be unapologetic in my opinion. But uplifting ourselves and to see our own value seems to me a better way of coping with a sometimes difficult reality than moaning about what sucks about it (even though mourning is an important step).

so, this Thanksgiving I'm thankful for a glimmer of promise I found in this post. not that you were posting it for my benefit or anything... but fuck if I can't take something from it if I want to. So there!

[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points0 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

people whining about my bluntness in a topic about whining are just proving my point.

every tactic they hate about women they're employing against me. they don't even get their own hamstering.

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