Question for TRP community

Movonnow · 2014-04-02T19:56:49+00:00

Dude. Same here. Was raising thinking what women really want is a nice guy and that in the end I would end up with a great woman who would recognize me for what I really am.

But you know what? They don't want a nice guy. I've been given the proof :

I was talking with two females friends :

"God, I wish I could meet a nice man. I'm so tired of all those assholes that are just interested in my ass and boobs. I want a SERIOUS relationship with a man that I can trust."

Few minutes ago, they were all saying how nice, how perfect I was. Saying I was a truly good man and that my future girlfriend will be very lucky because I'm too much of a good man to cheat.

Actually, everything they SAID they wanted in a man, they said I have it.

So if it was what they really wanted, why WEREN'T THEY ATTRACTED TO ME?!?

(They are in their twenties, didn't hit the wall yet in case you were wondering).

phomaniac · 2014-04-02T19:48:27+00:00

Kind is not nice. Not everyone is saying you have to be an asshole, but I think everyone would agree that you shouldn't be a doormat.

DrakeSaint · 2014-04-02T19:59:32+00:00

You're looking for kind.

When your mother tells you to "be nice" to your annoying, deaf, bad-smelling uncle, she means you gotta eat shit up and forcefully be a pleasant guy. You are not going to be nice at woman for free, just because they have a vagina or according to her SMV.

You can be kind, though. This means that if you're received with kindness, you return the favor. If you're received with aggressiveness or negative behaviour, you don't return with kindness; that's being "nice". You either ignore the bitch or respond with the same energy. Ignoring puts you up against her. Responding brings you to her level. Unless you absolutely destroy her with arguments.

Be a kind person. Return kindness with kindness. Don't be kind to bitchy whores.

Fundumpsters · 2014-04-02T21:35:57+00:00

There's a huge difference between "nice guy" and "decent man".

Be a decent man.

Women want the asshole that is decent to them.

the_Milkweed · 2014-04-02T20:44:35+00:00

This is the best way to put it that I have found so far: When a woman wants a nice guy she means it, she wants someone to control and who will be there to satisfy her every whim.... except for sex.

Nice guys aren't attractive, it doesn't work that way.

You need to be both, I hate saying it but they are like children. Treat them nice when they deserve it (ONLY WHEN THEY DESERVE IT) and discipline them when they act out. Woman have been ingrained with this idea that they should be respected for no fucking reason. Men work hard to become respected, remove the pussay from the pedestal and treat them as equals just like they want. They don't deserve shit unless they work for it.

[deleted] · 2014-04-02T20:13:03+00:00

This has been discussed before:

/r/TheRedPill/comments/1ud92y/nice_guys_sluts/ /r/TheRedPill/comments/21vnxd/the_difference_between_nice_and_kind_and_why_nice/

forgotmydamnpass · 2014-04-02T23:13:20+00:00

Be a good person, not a nice person, don't be good for the sake of manipulating people, do it because you want to, and don't be a doormat like I used to be

eccentricrealist · 2014-04-02T20:26:54+00:00

Be kind, not nice. Nice people are nice because they expect something in return. If you're kind because you want to be, then be so, but don't feel entitled and don't let it be a defining factor for you. If nice is the only thing you can say about a guy, then shit, that's a boring guy.

mbillion · 2014-04-02T21:36:03+00:00

There is a big difference between being kind and being nice. I am a very kind person, I just refuse to be victimized by gender roles I never agreed to. Am I an asshole to women, hell no, why bother. I think you are missing the point. TRP is not about being an asshole, its about being the controller of your own social interactions

CarlsPudding · 2014-04-02T21:01:42+00:00

Nice guys do not eventually win. You hear this because post-wall women will eventually settle down with a "nice guy" (I.e. a beta provider). Since marriage and the financial support of a man is their end game, their ultimate goal, they assume that the man has won as well. They simply can't imagine that it isn't "winning" for the man. They see things only from their point of view.

Hence, if you "be yourself," you will be a nice guy who eventually "wins." This is the basis of their philosophy. Think about the reformed whore's motto: Yes, she had a wild past, but it shouldn't bother you. After all, she chose YOU! Doesn't that make you feel special?

No, it doesn't. And it shouldn't. Because it boils your blood to know that she settled on someone less desirable than her bang-in-the-parking-lot, Gina-tingling bad-boys to live out her Disney princess wedding fantasy. You are interchangeable with a thousand other chumps in this scenario, and that's the damn truth.

So you can make your choice. Is that what you want? Then by all means be the nice guy. But don't come crying when the infidelity and divorce hit you. OR... You have another choice. Follow TRP, bang hot young sluts till your dick falls off, and keep your money and self-respect.

FortunateBum · 2014-04-02T23:20:05+00:00

My opinion, it's not about being "nice" or not nice. It's about proper signaling.

Women are attracted to high-status. "Game" is signaling your status. Higher-status people treat lower status people worse than their equals and definitely worse than those of higher status than themselves.

My opinion is the Dark Triad traits are high status traits. It's been scientifically proven that you lose empathy as you gain status.

Simply signal your status when it comes to attracting women. Status = access to resources. Resources could be friends, money, class, connections, physical dominance, lots of things. Signal signal signal. Showing off, basically. That's all you have to do. Humility will get you nowhere. Hide your low-status traits as much as possible.

[deleted] · 2014-04-03T05:19:33+00:00

You can be a nice guy who stands his ground. "I like your earrings, but i already have a girlfriend." Nice guys don't finish last, boring guys do. Being nice doesn't mean that you give anyone; anything.. It means that you like people but are strong enough to stand up for yourself if challenged. I've never been so proud as the day i met another nice guy who will rearrange your shit if you try them... Bouncers are the friends if you meet them like men.

BluepillProfessor · 2014-04-03T06:06:33+00:00

The Book "No More Mr. Nice Guy" explains this. "Nice" as in I am being nice and proper to get laid (i.e. 'covert contracts') is not "nice." In fact, it sucks. "Nice" because you are getting what you want is great.

Women want a man to take charge and lead them. They don't want a guy who is "nice" and defers to them in the hopes of getting them wet. It doesn't. Strong, assertive, male dominance gets them wet.

After you establish that, and get them wet, then it gets them really wet if you are kind- but only to them (because they are so spwesshelllll)

cascadecombo · 2014-04-03T06:10:38+00:00

What reason are you being nice? Is it because you want someones attention? Is it because you want to get in someones pants? Is it because you want to be liked?

nice guys do eventually win

Do you mean, marry a girl they had a crush on for 5 years, just to have her come to him for marriage after she has slept with any male she found reasonably attractive? I for one do not call that winning. I call that getting played, being the backup, etc.

Title	Question for TRP community
Author	sethxrollins
Upvotes	4
Comments	15
Date	April 2, 2014 7:36 PM UTC (12 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/TheRedPill
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