Realized I am Beta, Help Me

dlee25093 · 2018-09-15T18:49:33+00:00

Stop comparing yourself. Being in medical school is enough of an accomplishment to show you offer people a lot. Keep approaching.

cheetotickos · 2018-09-15T18:26:21+00:00

Keep trying to put yourself there. This point of your life isn't the end, it's only the beginning. Put in the practice and you will reap the benefits in the future when you are actually a doctor. Don't compare yourself to others, we are all on different paths and points in our lives. Eliminate that alpha and beta bullshit way of viewing yourself and others, you are equal to them and not beneath them. Build your confidence, be humble and people will start to notice you.

clavabot · 2018-09-15T18:54:19+00:00

ASKTRP post imo so before this gets removed enjoy.

Mate i'v been almost the same boat as you, and the trick is to shut the fuck up, and figure shit out. Im still a 5'7 virgin, but im less fat, have a purpose, and my social skill have skyrocketed. Because my knowledge is lacking regarding isolating, showing intent, escalating and closing im not getting all the results I want but all that means is I need to read more and experiment more. find things to improve on and consistently work on them.

Don't complain just work, baby step it, Study < Practice. Do shit fuck up then come back to the books. Its easier if you know what your looking for vs searching for everything(i.e. nothing) and tbf 99.9999% of all question you have, have been asked before by someone 99.999999% like you so you can use their info, for that last .00000000001% improvement find a mentor, pay for one, make good friends with the EC's etc and they might help you get to where you want to go.

boy_named_su · 2018-09-15T18:47:02+00:00

Get out of your comfort zone and create some things in your life worth talking about, even if they're dumb drunken things

Read a book on storytelling. Practice the art of storytelling. Tell stories about the above

If your convos are fizzing out, you need to practice more. Don't communicate with a goal. Don't expect anything. Just talk to people to get to know what they're interested in, and enjoy bullshitting with them

Mat Fraser, Crossfit Champion is 5'7" . Do you look anything like him, body-wise? That's a lofty goal, but it should be your goal

Tell me you've read How to Win Friends and Influence People...

RetakingAnatomy · 2018-09-15T19:20:13+00:00

Yo just focus and grind for the next two years. F*** all of this noise. Your life is all about STEP now. Wake the fuck up

kevin_le0 · 2018-09-15T18:32:17+00:00

This belongs on askTRP. As for your question, you gotta put yourself out there. Practice talking to people, even strangers day by day and learn to not be outcome dependent. Meditation and reminding yourself that they’re are other people out there worthy of your friendship out there helps with that.

Got any hobbies? Great, find a club and talk to people about that. If you don’t, find something you like to do on your leisure time and other people who like to do the same.

Hell you can even do a study session with your peers and shoot the shit over that.

It’s not hard. You just gotta put yourself out there, and not overthink about it.

Vakleri · 2018-09-15T18:48:59+00:00

First things first, bang someone. Don't aim for the hottest just get that one person and build yourself from it. Getting that first one is key to improving your confidence moving forward.

randomTATRP · 2018-09-15T19:04:51+00:00

Med school is actually a fucked up place to be if you're beta since guys there are usually guys who win at life but they work hard for it. I know a guy who goes to med school, is alpha, looks decent, a very good GPA.. Probably gets pussy a lot.

Just continue to practice.

BTW, AskTRP .

[deleted] · 2018-09-15T18:57:27+00:00

Those who say they can and those who say they can’t are usually right.

The first step is believing you can succeed in becoming the person you want to be. If you don’t, then there’s no point in even starting the fucking journey in the first place.

It starts with your mind. I can sense a defeatist attitude right away from your post. Wash that shit away, for literally a million reasons!

You claim to be around 5 or so “natural” alphas. First off, yes being a natural alpha is possible but please Do not discredit your peers so much. For all you know they could have started out just like you and built their way to where they are today through hard work, sacrifice, patience and self actualization. You can learn a lot from them.

You say you’ve read the sidebar and all the fundamental information of RP...but I have my doubts that you’ve actually fully internalized it.

Re-reading it may just be a waste of time too, as it wouldn’t raise your comprehension past your first read. I think you have to simply work on yourself in different aspects. Once you’ve done that (hobbies/interests, learning from your peers, etc.) you HAVE to go out and use your new knowledge in real life. Fail a million times, because every time you’re closer to being who you want to be. But not unless you finish every night with a self analysis field report. Don’t post it here every time. Write that shit down and analyze yourself, what worked and what didn’t, what you did right and what you could do better, etc.

You work and lift. You say you’re boring because it sounds like you are. Working, lifting, and self development aren’t an excuse for a personality. They’re a “given” thing you should do, like brushing your teeth or taking a shower. An essential part of your well-being.

You need to develop hobbies and interests. That can be it’s own topic in general but the gist of it is to not look for a girl to have an awesome time with. Instead have an awesome time and simply bring a girl to accompany you while you lead and live your awesome life.

Take initiative in immersing yourself into the psyche, tendencies, and mentality of the 5 or so “natural” alphas you’re around. Learn from them, and see what works and doesn’t. To get what alpha’s have, you’re gonna have to do what alpha’s do. Doesn’t mean they’re the pinnacle apex of what you should strive to be...but it’s a starting point.

johnparkerg · 2018-09-15T19:17:31+00:00

Look for a program called "Cocky Comedy" by David DeAngelo, you might not feel naturally comic but you can become it. Also look for a TED talk by Amy Cuddy about faking it till you make it, those two helped a lot

HierEncore · 2018-09-15T19:22:39+00:00

life is just as meaningless for alphas as it is for betas. Look up absurdism.

qwerty8008135 · 2018-09-15T19:24:35+00:00

You already are alpha you just dont realize it

hulk_hogans_alt · 2018-09-15T19:32:46+00:00

If I could go back in time and advise my 22 year old self I’d say this: be willing to embarrass yourself.

Let me clarify, don’t do anything that will ruin you professionally. Stay legal and socially acceptable. BUT, do things that you’re concerned might embarrass you, and when you do get embarrassed (you will, trust me) take it as a lesson. Keep doing this. Learn, take notes, repeat.

In other words, practice.

SeattleTyler · 2018-09-15T19:42:21+00:00

Quit fucking caring. Own the moment; stop brain 'storming.' the clouds will pass when you allow them space between.

Pull up a chair between that space, and hang out.

Women have strong intuition. They'll sense a person at peace with self, and latch onto the frequency you're projecting.

Be HERE. We're all fucking dying. The 10/10 IG model still takes stinky shits. She also struggles to hold her sanity intact, just like you. Allow her mask to melt, when she realizes her buffers are seen right through, by the likes of your carelessness towards her demeanor.

Cheers, beta. Hi, alpha.

NYCMusicMarathon · 2018-09-15T19:44:43+00:00

how do I become the fun, valuable guy;

Self confidence comes slowly Doc,

Be patient, wait, and learn.

the Red Pill will work.

If this goes on long, you will succeed just cause of your profession.

tl;dr: Chill and be well, it shall happen.

Mogusaurus · 2018-09-15T18:58:21+00:00

Getting yourself out there might not be all that you need to do. You probably have a lot of social skills that are undeveloped and, IMO, you need to learn about them and find out how you can learn them.

As far as the alpha/beta thing... that is a different ball game. Not necessarily a worse one to deal with, just a different one with different challenges... you should find a good shrink for that. If one isn't working, move on to another. Different shrinks work better with different people because shrinks are still people and every person has their own perspectives, beliefs, habits etc.

If you are anything like me, you probably care too much about what other people think about you, too. It is hard to be an interesting person when you're trying to be what other people want you to be because your mind can only have a limited amount of thoughts and intentions and if the thoughts and intentions are based on becoming interested then you will spend less time having interesting thoughts...

oooKenshiooo · 2018-09-15T19:23:51+00:00

Change social circles, go to different venues or use tinder. Remember, you have infinite tries in the real world, there is no point in obsessing about your social rank in med school.

[deleted] · 2018-09-15T19:33:15+00:00

I don't mean to tell you what to do, but you need to stop trying to be somebody else. I'm a medical student myself, but I just act like myself.

Thunderbird93 · 2018-09-15T19:49:40+00:00

Bruh I lost my virginity to a stripper at 23,ur just a late bloomer. Focus on finishing medical school and the money that will come with it. Just pay for sex if its bothering you,that shit is overrated man,its too hyped. Be an ethical egoist,pursue your own interests first and foremost in school man. Once you start seeing those six figures these hoes will flock to you man I guarantee it.

MEANMUTHAFUKA · 2018-09-15T19:52:18+00:00

Stop caring dawg. Don’t worry about it. Keep lifting - you’ll start to fill out. It’s crazy... all the sudden you’ll notice women throw themselves at you, and you don’t even want them. Patience son.... be patient. Find your way forward. Don’t give up. Don’t care and you’ll find your way. I know it ain’t easy but you’ll get there. You’re already on your way. The fuck of it is, when you get there you just won’t care anymore. It’s a paradox....

suhmydudessssss · 2018-09-15T19:55:03+00:00

I'm 5'7, and 19 years old. Didn't even have my first kiss until earlier this year, and that was at the same time I lost my virginity to a chick off of tinder. Week later, I had sex with a really a hot chick from a party, two weeks later I hooked up with another girl from tinder. I'm telling you this so you know it's possible for you.

It was hard for me at first though, I'd probably been rejected by atleast 60 or so women off of tinder, atleast a 100 or so women from parties, and the five or so women I actually went on dates with I didn't like. I had a lot of friends that helped me learn how to talk to women though, and that's what you need to bridge the learning curve, that and tons of trial and error.

Biggest thing for me was to keep on trying and act as though I wasn't a virgin, that and lifting/ getting an 8 pack really helped. Women really dig abs and muscle, and if you can get the to ask for pics of your abs on snap you're basically in(I can explain to you how to do this if you ask, it is a bit of an art form). Women don't know if you're a virgin if you have the mindset that you arn't. You've got this, and even if you don't you'll have a successful medical career, it's a win win for you.

Also: NEVER TELL A GIRL YOU ARE A VIRGIN, especially if she asks

tempolaca · 2018-09-15T19:55:43+00:00

You cannot be full beta if you at least know you are beta. It's the same as knowing you are ignorant: If you know yourself ignorant, you are not full ignorant, are you?

[deleted] · 2018-09-15T19:56:00+00:00

For one thing, you need a purpose that's higher than attracting female attention. Ask yourself seriously, are you going to medical school for the status and money, or are you going to medical school because you believe in the goodness of medicine and want to be the best healer you possibly can? In other words, is medical school a means for you, or an end?

You'll be much less insecure if you can make it an end. I'm not a doctor, but I am a medical researcher, and I'm telling you, there is much more to the intelligent practice of medicine than memorizing what they're going to force down your throat in class. Catch up on the latest research, think for yourself, be a good scientist and try to falsify (in the Popperian sense of "falsification") every theory they present to you.

Play the long game and do everything in your power to become a medical superstar, above and beyond what everyone else in your class is doing. If this doesn't sound appealing to you then man, just drop out of medical school. "Being a doctor" is not going to give you the pussy access you want, and if that's what you're in it for, then I should tell you, the world doesn't need another mediocre physician.

[deleted] · 2018-09-15T19:57:50+00:00

From your perspective, what’s making those alphas “alpha”? Physically and personality-wise?

dragonslayergold · 2018-09-15T20:02:26+00:00

There are super hot chicks that work at Home Depot who would kill to date a med school student. Who cares if you can’t get another doctor woman? That doctor woman earned her right to date millionaires if she wants. Most of em probably won’t settle for another doctor. Just won’t work. Pick up a regular working chick who’s hot as fuck. She takes care of the house and you make the money. That’s way it’s been for centuries. Don’t even fuck with doctor women, they are gonna date baseball players.

[deleted] · 2018-09-15T20:13:37+00:00

In your particular situation it sounds like you could use some stoicism, particularly Negative Visualization. Buy or download a copy of 'A Guide To The Good Life' by William B. Irving.

You have all the physical and mental tools to fix what you don't like about your situation, in particular you've identified that your problem is conversation. So go and fix that.

You're also in a much more privileged situation than many here - if you don't see that now, you will once you read the book above and start using NV.

karmalizing · 2018-09-15T20:10:24+00:00

They have charisma and social skills, you don't.

Lol how can we help your dumb ass with that.

Title	Realized I am Beta, Help Me
Author	canlrn96
Upvotes	51
Comments	35
Date	September 15, 2018 6:20 PM UTC (7 years ago)
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