Red pill tips for fathers?

masterstick8 · 2013-05-24T06:46:29+00:00

I might get criticized for this comment, but I think you have to warn her of TRP guys. No, she shouldn't be a princess, but she should also realize she has more to offer to men than a "hole in the crotch" and any man that thinks other wise isn't worth her time.

I pride myself on not being easily played, but I also realize that women are still people. Yes, we get it, everyone here is simply trying to get laid, but if thats all men are going to do these days, then what is the motivation for women to have any good traits besides physical?

On a side note, the post about "my girlfriend made a months worth of food" made me sick. That guy is so incompetent, or at least his girlfriend thinks he is, that she believes he can literally not feed himself without fucking something up.

MaunaLoona · 2013-05-24T08:48:06+00:00

I tell her... I think she is beautiful... that her own internal self worth comes from within

Do you see a contradiction here?

PS. Praise actions and effort, not inherent attributes which she has no control over. Also, praise not grounded in reality will give her that princess complex.

QuietlyLearning · 2013-05-24T15:03:32+00:00

Man, where do I start... First off, compliments to her are only valuable from you if she perceives that you are higher value than her. From the sounds of it, you are so beta that it hurts me.

I have a 12 year old daughter and a vindictive ex-wife. One of the things that vindictive/upset ex-wives do is constantly put down their ex-husbands in front of their children. Yet, my son and daughter still think I am God. Why?

Because I apply, quite literally, TRP principles to our relationship. In short, I treat her like I would a valued girlfriend (within obvious limits.) She is a girl/woman and as such, she is wired just like every other girl/woman you will meet. They need to see confidence, "amused mastery", rewarding good behaviour and generally being non-reactive to bad behaviour. It's not a coincidence that the first Google result for "amused mastery" has a daddy/daughter picture. That is what you need to practice. Bonus: works GREAT with other women too.

Many people who meet us are amazed at what a great relationship we have. I make it look easy but it's hard work. Very, very hard work. Especially with a vindictive ex. If the mother of your child is wildly in love with you, the children will automatically also be wildly in love with you. If they aren't though, you've got your work cut out for you.

As a man, you are alone in the world not because everyone hates you, but because everyone depends on you. Telling your daughter that she inspires you is complete horseshit.

Edit: If you want proof to my approach, just last night she said: "Dad, I wish my husband gets me like you." I told her that I promise to explain to him how to deal with her insanity (which would basically be a link to /r/TheRedPill). This was right after I told her she is the biggest idiot I know because of something dumb she did.

Edit: also your top priority should be to get her into your life. Move her to the US with you.

2013-05-24T07:45:29+00:00

The general rule of thumb is to teach respect of ones parents, both must set the example. Self respect and you wont have to worry about her being in a situation to be taken advantage of. Teach love.

dropit_sphere · 2013-05-24T14:50:06+00:00

So, candidly...

nothing you send over the internet is even remotely comparable to you actually being there. The best thing, for your daughter, would be if you returned and took your role as her father. How possible that is, I don't know, but that's the ideal by which you should orient yourself.

theubercuber · 2013-05-24T13:46:12+00:00

I think one of the most important things is to show your kids that your wife doesn't have absolute power over you. Don't give them the impression that you are only a cash provider that is allowed to stay in the house so long as your wife 'permits' it.

Wiskie · 2013-05-24T17:48:25+00:00

I'm going to disagree with treating your daughter as you would any other woman. I'm assuming you aren't trying to get into your daughter's pants (that would be pretty strange) and, yet, she is still the continuation of your genes, y'know?

I would implore that you treat your daughter, in the generalized sense, similar to how you would treat a son. Discipline her when she acts out. Occasionally reward her when she does well. Give her what she needs to succeed but don't be afraid take it away if she fucks up.

Here's what you need to keep in mind: Your role is that of the father. That boils down to: security, discipline, education, protection. Don't fall into the trap of playing the role of the mother. That's where you run into trouble.

If you live a vigorous, lively RP lifestyle on top of these things, your daughter will take note, and women (and men) learn a lot about what they like/dislike in a mate from the relationship they have with their parent of the opposite sex.

You shouldn't need to seduce her or compete against other men for her favor or anything. Just make sure she's on the path to finding an alpha like yourself (lead by example). You don't have to be a dick to her to make this happen, but you should leave the "nurturing" to mom.

It's not about seducing her for the sake of making children and perpetuating your genes. She is [comprised of half of] your genes. Worry about getting those genes to a point where they can survive and thrive in the next generation.

dakevs · 2013-05-24T16:25:04+00:00

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thereisnosuchthing · 2013-05-26T05:33:13+00:00

I'm so sorry you missed out on a girl like that and the life experience of living and growing with a family with a genuine old-fashioned girl who knows her place in the family(just as yours would have been Father and Husband).

Someone said something about value and compliments. No. This isn't a girl he's trying to have sex with or make like him romantically. Compliments will be good if they actually MEAN something, aren't just "I'll say this to you and hope it makes you like me or hope it makes you do something" ..not "if you're higher value than her" ..if COURSE he is going to be her #1 high value man, he is her FATHER. Don't tell her you're proud of her every time you talk to her, or even that you love her (say that one often though and whenever she says it to you), have those things MEAN something.

Don't try to be her buddy ever, but more like supportive/father/knowing friend who sees through all the teenage girl bs but will always be there for her.

Parenting and redpill do NOT go together AT ALL. To be a superb parent you have to be selfless and provide selfless understanding that has nothing to do with how you feel about yourself, your ego(which is what women feed off and reflect back to you in social situations), how your kid is being "for you", what your kid does "for you", you have to have understanding. Offering those two things to WOMEN in a romantic situation is the opposite of redpill and will make them think they have you on a leash and give them nothing to feed off of / lead them ..so they will try to lead YOU instead, which as we all know is disastrous as they can't lead themselves very far(except to the next boyfriend who will lead them somewhere, starting with his place and bed) let alone anyone else.

Parenting and 'red pill school on women and romance' are two disgustingly different things. Sure, you can use some of the things you use to help yourself internally to help her, but jesus man, she's not a chick you want to make interested/like you/think you're mysterious/want to bed you.

qzzod · 2013-05-24T08:38:40+00:00

Nothing you can do. Females have their own wiring and nothing you can say will change it. Trying to "teach" her or make her aware of a man's nature or her own will change nothing. Women don't process things and make logical decisions the way we do.

I've explained to women exactly how I'm going to game them beforehand, they laughed in my face at the time, and still fell for it. Later they rationalized it away to some fairytale nonsense. They didn't even care that they got "gamed" because they were too busy enjoying the emotional high.

My advice is just tell her how important it is to lock down a successful man while her smv is at it's highest. Not that I believe it would help. Any rational advice or logic will just go in one ear and out the other.

Ragnar09 · 2013-05-24T16:26:08+00:00

Raising females seems like such a hassle. I rather have males

socal83 · 2013-05-24T16:13:45+00:00

it blows my fucking mind that you are my age and you have a 13 year old daughter.

holy shit lol.

MaunaLoona · 2013-05-24T08:03:57+00:00

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Title	Red pill tips for fathers?
Author	dakevs
Upvotes	31
Comments	71
Date	May 24, 2013 5:24 AM UTC (13 years ago)
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