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Robin Williams was miserable at having to return to TV at the age of 63 and take on film roles he did not want because two divorces had cost him £20million

massivecoiler

August 13, 2014
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Title Robin Williams was miserable at having to return to TV at the age of 63 and take on film roles he did not want because two divorces had cost him £20million
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Upvotes 83
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Date August 13, 2014 4:03 AM UTC
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[–]a_murderer24 points25 points26 points 12 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link

As much as I detest turning the untimely death of one of my favourite actors and comedians into a learning experience, perhaps this has enabled me to see that the altruism, trust, generosity and overall selflessness I have been using to make myself 'feel better' in my own struggle with depression are a fruitless cause.

I have generally noticed this for a while, the getting little to nothing in return bit, but I think this just shattered whatever fence I was sitting on in terms of my behaviour.

[–]weirdnamedindian17 points18 points19 points 12 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Exactly!

So he gets praised to high-heaven for being so selfless but you can praise his corpse as much as you want, it's still a fucking corpse!

[–]Mrswhiskers7 points8 points9 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

He will, however, be remembered as a great man for a long time instead of a selfish man who is soon forgotten.

[–]TRP VanguardHumanSockPuppet9 points10 points11 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

People remember Ghenghis Khan, too.

[–]Jar_of_apples0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Ghenghis Khan brought his nation out of a history of tribal infighting, and forged a great future for his country.Don't try to paint him as some kind of one-sides monster when history is much more complicated than that.

[–]Meatclap0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

...and Jeffery Dahmer, Steve Jobs, Charles Manson, Casey Anthony, Martin Luther King Jr., etc. Maybe it's not that they're remembered, but how and why?

Either way your remark put a smile on my face. Well done.

[–]3NO_LAH_WHERE_GOT1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Mother Theresa was miserable and depressed towards her death, too.

[–]weirdnamedindian0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, though her spiritual director claimed she made her peace with God in the end. Plus, alot of people who became saints had long periods of what is described as "the dark night of the soul". She wasn't unique in this aspect

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Normally I'd say no but there is no shame in drawing personal lessons from the actions of others, and the fact that those actions lead to their untimely death is of no consequence.

Depression isn't something you fight through by giving to others, its something you fight through by grinning and bearing it till you accomplish. If nothing else, its easier to cry in your Benz than it is to cry on a bicycle.

[–]16 TRP VanguardTRPsubmitter8 points9 points10 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

People will always take advantage of freely given kindness, either directly, by consciously taking advantage of you, or indirectly, simply because people will not do things unless you push them to.

For example, I picked up some chick last weekend. She was out with 3 friends (one massively beta army guy, his gf, and random girl). The guy was so beta, he took insults from his own gf, paid for ALL of our dinner, ALL of our drinks twice. I always offer to pay for myself when meeting new people so I don't look like a douche, but he was insistent, so of course I was like "hey if it makes you happy...". Then I did it 3x more.

Yet in the future, he'll wonder "why do mean people take advantage of me?" I didn't set out to take advantage of him, but indirectly I'll accept it everytime cause he isn't requiring others to step up and pay their due.

[–]Entrefut3 points4 points5 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I love the part in "No More Mr. Nice Guy" where he addresses nice guys constant giving with a hidden expectation of getting something in return. He wasn't paying to be nice, he was attempting to buy something from you. Respect, status, pity pussy from his gf by "impressing" her. It's sad and they don't even realize these expectations are there. They have literally been raised as a doormat.

[–]Entrefut0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I wish I could say he deserved better, but it was his own damn fault. As amazing as he was, he was the ultimate Bluepill man. It sucks seeing this happen, but lets take this into perspective.

FUCKING ROBIN WILLIAMS COULDN'T BE HAPPY WITH THE CONVENTIONAL SYSTEM OF LOVE. How do you expect to? This entire thing should just show you how absolutely crucial TRP is to find what makes you happy. Robin looked for it from other people, but never found it in himself. Marriage after marriage he tried and failed to find happiness, when it was inside him all along. He gave with the expectation of one day receiving... In a perfect world he would have received an infinite amount, but in our world he received none, because he loved using his gift so much, that I'm sure it pained him to stop it and focus on himself.

[–]Nettom20 points21 points22 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

The couple split in 2008. Robin once said of the break-ups: “Divorce is expensive. I used to joke they were going to call it ‘all the money,’ but changed it to ‘alimony’.

“It’s ripping your heart out through your wallet.”

I am feeling so angry right now after reading this and I know I shouldn't. But the fact this has happened to one of my favorite actors alltime just makes it even worse.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

My sociology professor use to say that quote all the time, and would also tell us that he'll never stop working until is ex-wife is dead. He was such a great guy, walked through the whole united states and wrote a book about it. His mother is also Rosie the riveter.

[–]BitingInsects0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

“It’s ripping your heart out through your wallet.”

"It's like ripping your genitals through your wallet" FTFW

[–]the99percent19 points10 points11 points 12 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

Genuinely feel sorry for the man.. People who strike sudden fame and fortune are in a positively skewed feedback loop.. They don't recognize that their fame and fortune could diminish if mismanaged. Since they have not learnt how to get on by with next to nothing, it could lead to a dangerous life-ending scenario as is this case.

This is where RP can help those with a sudden rise in wealth and potentially save a life or even a family years of heart-ache.

Considering he did an AMA, a few lessons Robin could have learnt if he came to TRP:

-Don't put women on the pedestal. You have no fucking reason to. You are the star of your own movie. You are the prize, not the nanny..

-Don't give away your wealth or sacrifice yourself so freely. No-one appreciates a beta bucks.

-Don't seek validation from external sources, including from your women. Quietly reflect on your illustrious career and realize what you have accomplished will forever be written in history. That should have been enough validation for your existence.

RIP old man.. Life must have been pure living torture for a 63 year old accomplished man to want to neck himself.

[–]MaxPower66 points7 points8 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I thought it was odd that such a big movie star was doing a TV show with Buffalo The Vampire Slayer. Now it makes sense

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points9 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That's the thing though. Imagine the humiliation someone like him must feel at having to work for movies / TV he didn't respect because he is forced to pay based on his old peak salary.

[–]kruddthemessiah1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It seems he enjoyed working there and was number 23 of highest paid tv actors last year making 165k per episode .

http://deadline.com/2014/08/david-e-kelley-sarah-michele-gellar-react-to-robin-williams-death-817825/

I think cancelling the show plus the divorce rape hurt him

[–]Endorsed Contributormonsieurhire27 points8 points9 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Bah, all the propaganda on how he should have stayed alive was just so they could cynically milk more tax dollars and revenue out him with a gajillion Mrs. Doubtfire sequels.

That's really what the religious and other types of thoughform prohibition on suicide amounts to: stay alive so we can suck more energy out of you.

Not that I'm pro-suicide, but let's just say I'm pro-choice. If someone else really wants to kill themselves, they shouldn't be posthumously shamed for it. After all, if people really wanted other people to stay alive, they'd be kinder to them, instead of constantly jackbooting them to the face.

[–]Entrefut5 points6 points7 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I really hope he somehow faked his death and is now living out his days as Mrs. Doubtfire in the UK. If he could have found some kind of way to drop his financial burdens and gotten away from everything, I think he would have lived out his days a very jolly, happy old man.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link

when she said good night and went to sleep in a separate bedroom. She left home the following morning at 10.30 without saying goodbye

wife no. 3 had some red flags too.

EDIT: Robin Williams was a great artist and a talented comedian. No man deserves to be taken to the cleaners just to satisfy some woman's personal vendetta. Robin did not deserve to go this way.

[–]MaxPower60 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Surprised someone finally pointed this out.

[–]2johnnight1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

He was about to lose the ranch. My speculative guess is that his financial trouble made him weak and he looked in her for support. We know exactly how women react when you share your weakness with them. It ends in separate bedrooms and a lack of emotional support.

In the end the brightest man in film became the saddest. The want for suicide comes to a man when there are permanent troubles and he sees no way out.

Being rich is not a solution. You can earn 10 million per year, but the courts can always make you pay 11 to break your back.

[–]SFofallplaces3 points4 points5 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Great comedic actor killed by feminism. A stretch, you say? If not for the unjust divorce laws that destroy men’s livelihood, he might be alive today.

[–][deleted] 3 points3 points3 points 12 years ago | Copy Link

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[–]Entrefut1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Society failed Robin. This was a guy who could have spun 10 semi serious plates his entire life and never had to think about losing his money ever again, while receiving the loving of a god all the way until he died from a heart attack on his 110th birthday. He was getting head backstage at a stand up comedy night for a retirement home.

I hate that his career would have dried up had he taken on 2-10 women at once. He fucking deserved to have that much attention, but no, marriage has to exist and he has to get tricked time after time into giving away his money to greedy bitches that don't deserve it.

[–]darkstout0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Forbes article: http://www.forbes.com/sites/trialandheirs/2014/08/12/whats-next-for-robin-williams-family-and-estate/

This means that Williams left behind real estate with equity of around $25 million, depending on what Villa Sorriso can command in a sale.

...

According to numbers compiled by ABC News, his movies grossed over $6 billion throughout his career, more than half of which came with Williams as the leading man.

[–]jmotrain 16 points16 points16 points 12 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Williams said he couldn't afford the place anymore. The reason he took that TV role was to make money, even after a successful acting career. He is the textbook case of getting divorce raped and being forced into working, even at 63 years old.

Gentlemen, I know there will be RPers on here who say that some of us are too cynical. Marriage is okay as long as you find the right woman. Sorry but it is never okay, no matter the circumstances. DO NOT GET MARRIED. EVER!

Now that said, apparently Williams had struggled with addiction and depression for a long time. So it probably wasn't all getting divorce-raped. But I'm sure it was a leading factor in his suicide, after all divorced men are 2.5 to 3 times more likely to commit suicide than non-divorced men.

http://antimisandry.com/marriage-divorce-children-choice-men/15-000-18-000-divorced-men-commit-suicide-every-year-17392.html

[–]2johnnight1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago [recovered] (0 children) | Copy Link

Williams had struggled with addiction and depression for a long time. So it probably wasn't all getting divorce-raped.

Addiction does not come from nowhere. There is some initial reason for excessive drinking. It's self-medicating your pains of body or soul.

Look at Kurt Cobain. Turns out he had stomach pains which the doctors could not diagnose. He was medicating himself with drugs.

[–]2johnnight0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

They poached the elephant with their divorce spears.

[–][deleted] -3 points-3 points-3 points 12 years ago | Copy Link

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[–]Pushnikov1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I feel you in a lot of ways. Go live on $50,000 a year. Robin could have done that in a heartbeat. People live on far less. When you're that wealthy, it seems absurd though. But, I'm sure it wasn't just the money in the end.

[–]Jillianmd777 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I think it was mostly his own inner demons. Depression isn't something you can rationalize. You can be on top of the fucking world and still have depression. It isn't always something that makes sense, and it can be a very difficult, fundamental issue in you that is neither easily found nor easily broken through. It's not so easy as to just pinpoint an event and say it was the cause.

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