Stereotyping and roles deconstructed

tombreck2 · 2015-02-16T20:42:23+00:00

Very good post. There can be dramatic differences when a man is able to harness the power of these sterotypes.

Whenever a british guy comes out to a bar in DC he gets positive attention from girls at the bar. Why?

British accent = stereotype of elitness, prince harry, downton abbey

Whenever an indian guy comes out to a bar in DC he is always getting negative attention from girls at the bar. Why?

Indian accent = poverty, slums and apu from the simpsons

But if that same indian guy speaks with a british accent then he will get positive attention from girls at the bar. Why?

British accent stereotype

trplurker · 2015-02-17T02:30:59+00:00

Great post. I just want to add that stereotyping behavior started off as a survival instinct and is applied to everything in life, not just other humans. All animals do this to some extent, it's one of those evolutionary hurdles that must be crossed to develop complex higher lifeforms. Goes something like this,

Four proto-human males are out hunting / gathering for food, we'll call them Tom, Dick, Harry and George. Suddenly out of nowhere something jumps on George, it's got big teeth, has yellow and black stripes and is obviously the in process of killing and eating George. The other three males, not knowing WTF they are looking at but recognizing it's violent and dangerous do what every animal that isn't an apex predator does (humans weren't apex predators for a very long time), the run the fuck away. Bad for George, good for the other three. Now sometime in the future, those three are out hunting again but this time they brought Bob to replace George. Out in the distance they see a big animal, it's got yellow and black stripes and looks vaguely like the same sort of creature that killed and ate George.

What do they do?

The run the fuck away. Even though this creature has not displayed any dangerous violent tendencies another one that looked similar did. This creature could very well be a vegetarian or even a carrion eater and just happens to look similar, but these humans won't take the chance. To them their survival and possible procreation is more important then equality or giving this new creature any sort of "fair chance". And Bob, who hasn't witnessed any violence from anything that looks like this creature will see that the other three are fearful and he will run away with them and stereotype all big yellow and black striped animals as "violently dangerous".

Now multiply this sort of scenario across tens of thousands of generations in incredibly hostile environments full of predators and it becomes obviously apparent how important this behavior becomes. Without it no species will evolve very far as just becomes food for something else.

BurgundyCarpet · 2015-02-17T08:44:14+00:00

Excellent post. I especially enjoy it because your recommendations tie in to my post from a few days ago about the importance of defining yourself in relation to MEN, not women.

Stereotypes are important as fuck. Humans naturally compartmentalize and collapse complex ideas/people down to their simplest forms so we can understand the world better.

It's a lot like the process of reading and writing. Even a word like "apple" is a simplified symbol that has been stripped of all detail and nuance in order for me to communicate a very specific idea to you: a tasty kind of fruit that we find on a tree. An apple.

When we are kids, we don't know how to use words and we don't know how to stereotype. This is why "stranger danger" is a concept: it's one of the first stereotypes that parents pass on to their kids, and the stereotype itself surely saves countless kids' lives each year. We don't naturally understand that strangers who want to talk to kids are most likely dangerous, so our parents have to impart that stereotype to us: "stranger danger."

As we get older and learn more stereotypes and words, we cease to see the world in all its beauty and complexity. Instead of seeing the world, we just read the world. When we're kids and we see a tree, we think something like: "wow! That's a huge beautiful object that comes out of the ground, it has many colors and many small parts!" But when we're adults and we see a tree, we just think the word "tree."

There's a saying in art that "seeing is forgetting the name of the thing one sees." The best art makes you forget all stereotypes/words/names and return to that state you were born into as a child. It gives you something new that there are no words to describe, and for a brief glorious moment you feel like a kid again. You're forced to see the world instead of just reading it. And those moments of true seeing are fucking sublime.

noncontroversy · 2015-02-17T15:01:23+00:00

Good post. I like to put it this way: most stereotypes exist because they correspond to some observable and measurable fact about behaviour.

sup3r_saiyan · 2015-02-17T03:02:24+00:00

Great information but this can really confuse a lot of people. At the end of the day guys you should be self-aware, if you're feeling blue pick your mood up (i use a select playlist to accomplish this.) By the end of the 2nd song i'm already feeling like "I'm too hot, god damn, call the police & the fire man!!" lol and it lasts for a long long time. Do whatever works for you but again, very informative post

Title	Stereotyping and roles deconstructed
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Date	February 16, 2015 8:36 PM UTC (11 years ago)
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