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Study tests gender differences in charitability and finds that "when it's easy to avoid making a donation, such as not responding to a door-to-door solicitor, women are less likely than men to give"

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August 25, 2013
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Title Study tests gender differences in charitability and finds that "when it's easy to avoid making a donation, such as not responding to a door-to-door solicitor, women are less likely than men to give"
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Date August 25, 2013 8:35 AM UTC
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[–]16 TRP VanguardTRPsubmitter[S] 19 points20 points21 points 12 years ago (30 children) | Copy Link

About three percent of women and men gave money when the visit was unannounced. When allowed to opt-out, men's giving dropped slightly, while women's giving fell to about half of the level of previous giving.

So the % of men who gave to charity was equal to that of women in the "difficult/confronted" situation and was actually higher than that of women in the "easy/opt out" situation.

Yet, the hamster scientists go on to claim:

"We need more study on this issue, but it could be that women are more sensitive to social cues than are men, and that is why they are more likely to give in situations where they don't have an easy way to avoid a donation, such as when they are asked for a donation face-to-face," List said.

Keep in mind that in NO situation did women give more frequently than men. However, a woman's increase in giving when confronted is somehow supposed to be a good thing because it indicates that she is more in tune socially? [hamster alert] They're providing this as an explanation of the large disparity in charitable giving in women between the two conditions (whereas men were very consistent with their charity, so no further explanation/discussion needed apparently).

There's a more realistic RP explanation for the disparity in women's giving: Lack of character. Lack of firmly held values. Lack of consistency in behavior. Susceptibility to peer pressure. Willingness to change your behavior solely due to what other people will think/say/write about you.

[–]TRP VanguardHumanSockPuppet 12 points13 points14 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

There's a more realistic RP explanation for the disparity in women's giving:

Yes. Women have no sympathy.

[–]Endorsed ContributorrebuildingMyself 12 points13 points14 points 12 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

If the data was reversed the report would have been jerking about how better women are

[–]Swifthand 5 points6 points7 points 12 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

Do women have an inferiority complex that they jump at every occasion to tell how they're better than men?

[–]Endorsed ContributorrebuildingMyself 6 points7 points8 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Who wouldn't love a pissing contest where the opponent is bound by political correctness against fighting back?

[–]Max___Power 10 points11 points12 points 12 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

New here are we?

[–]Swifthand 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Yep. Problem?

[–]Max___Power 8 points9 points10 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

That was my way of saying "duh" or "yes".

[–]Swifthand 4 points5 points6 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Oh, ok.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

And that comment doesn't make you guilty of the same?

[–]Max___Power 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Same what?

[+]Bhorzo -6 points-5 points-4 points 12 years ago (17 children) | Copy Link

While you could make arguments to show that women lack character and values... this probably isn't the study you want to cite. 97% of men did not give either. This study says more about people in general, than men or women in particular. 1.5% of women changed their minds about giving when they had the ability to opt out. 1.5% is a pretty tiny fraction.

Also, why is it a positive thing to give to random strangers instead of giving to family and friends? Why is it so bad to invest in something that might provide a return (eg family and friends) over investing in something that will never provide a return (random strangers that you will never see/meet)?

[–]16 TRP VanguardTRPsubmitter[S] 10 points11 points12 points 12 years ago (16 children) | Copy Link

Also, why is it a positive thing to give to random strangers instead of giving to family and friends?

That is what "charity" is, by definition.

This study has nothing to do with the debate of giving to strangers vs friends. That's a separate issue. Simply, within the specific confines of being charitable to the less fortunate (strangers), the conclusion is that women are less so.

[+]Bhorzo -9 points-8 points-7 points 12 years ago* (15 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, but women are less so by like ~1.5%. That's a small and practically insignificant amount.

[–]16 TRP VanguardTRPsubmitter[S] 7 points8 points9 points 12 years ago (14 children) | Copy Link

So your argument is exactly what?

That even though men demonstrate charity at levels at least equal to or greater than women in both situations, that women are excused because it seems like "a small and practically insignificant" amount?

This is academic research so we are talking about statistically significant changes and standard deviations. The researchers most likely did 10 positive control trials (no opt out) and got the same result in each trial. Then they changed to the opt out condition and observed a 50% drop in charity in women. That is a pretty significant drop when your positive control is consistent. It means the result could not be due to chance, like youre trying to imply.

Besides, if they got vastly different results in the positive control trial then they would never have published a paper on a 50% drop in the first place.

[+]Bhorzo -8 points-7 points-6 points 12 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link

What is the practical value of a study that shows that women are ~1.5% less likely to give to charity?

It says above:

There's a more realistic RP explanation for the disparity in women's giving: Lack of character. Lack of firmly held values. Lack of consistency in behavior. Susceptibility to peer pressure. Willingness to change your behavior solely due to what other people will think/say/write about you.

But you can't really say women lack character, lack values, lack consistency, and are susceptible to to peer pressure - in any meaningful amount - simply due to a 1.5% difference in behaviour. If you want to show women lack meaningful amounts of character, values, consistency, etc... then this is not the study you want to use to back up your argument. This study says more about the similarities between men and women, rather than the differences (ie 98.5% of men and women are the same in this case, and 1.5% are different. Big deal.)

[–]16 TRP VanguardTRPsubmitter[S] 4 points5 points6 points 12 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link

I just got finished explaining to you the difference between % and standard deviation and that you cannot view them as the same. Small % changes can be INCREDIBLY significant if the consistency of the positive control is high. It doesn't matter if the change was 1.5%. It's about significant change compared to the unaltered condition. The change was a 50% change...which IS significant. The 1.5% initial group is a given and was mentioned as a baseline and is irrelevant. It's the 50% statistically significant change in women vs a lack of statistically significant change in men that is important.

[–]Bhorzo -5 points-4 points-3 points 12 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link

What I'm saying is simply:

A study which shows that 97% of men and 98.5% of women don't give to charity (when there's no social pressure) - is a shitty study to use to somehow prove that men DO have character and moral values, and women do not.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 12 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

I think /u/TRPsubmitter's analysis of the study's "conclusion" is the best takeaway: The study's authors brazenly, nakedly misrepresented the charitable generosity of men and women.

Unsurprisingly, they managed to both:

  1. Imply that women are more generous than men, and
  2. Imply that women are victims.

[–]CokedUpArmenian 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

what does the study say to you?

[–]INomYou 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Here let me take a shot: That the difference is insignificant. Because Patriarchy! Or social cues. Or some other bs. Except when it's not. Because Girl Power! Hamsters gonna hamst.

Think about this: the study doesn't identify the difference in dollar amount given by gender (though I'd be willing to guess who digs deeper at the door), the charity business is massive and 1.5% opt-out represents billions in real dollars. That's a lot of bon-bons, or canned soup as the case may be.

[–]Bhorzo -2 points-1 points0 points 12 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

It says to me that over 97% of people do not give resources to random faceless strangers from whom they will get no return on the investment.

It doesn't say much about the differences between men and women... other than the fact that of the tiny portion of women who give, 50% give because of social pressure. I have no idea why the tiny portion of men who give do so... it could simply be gullibility or greater resources. The study doesn't really say much at all, IMHO.

You can't really generalize this study to all men or all women, because the relevant change only takes place in 3% of the population - which is not representative.

edit:grammer

[–]Traz_Onmale 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's better to also take possible mediating factors into account:

What type of relationship is found between gender and giving depends strongly on the other variables included in the empirical analyses. The more socio-economic variables, such as age, income and educational level, are included in the models examining charitable giving, the smaller the reported gender differences in giving are. It is thus no surprise that the findings on gender differences in giving vary between empirical studies.

A group of survey studies conducted in the United States (U.S.), Australia, the United Kingdom (U.K.) and the Netherlands examining giving to all types of (both religious and secular) organisations find that while women are more likely to give, men give higher amounts (Andreoni, Brown, and Rischall, 2003; Bekkers, 2004; CAF, 2005; Lyons and Nivison-Smith, 2006; Lyons and Passey, 2005; Sokolowski, 1996). Examining only the likelihood of giving, Feldman (2007) and Reed and Selbee (2002) find that females are more likely to donate than males. Bekkers (2006) finds no gender difference in likelihood of giving, but his results do confirm larger donations by men compared to women. While on the other hand Chang (2005b) finds women donate higher amounts than men in Taiwan.

Results from both experimental and survey studies show that women have stronger prosocial values than men, including concern and responsibility for the wellbeing of others (Beutel and Marini, 1995), religious values (De Vaus and McAllister, 1987; Miller and Hofman, 1995), and empathic concern (Davis, 1994; Einolf, 2011; Eisenberg and Lennon, 1983). According to primatologist Frans de Waal (2010), empathic concern can be traced back to early primate evolution and was developed simultaneously with parental care. Females that expressed empathic concern for their offspring had greater reproductive success than their counterparts without this prosocial trait.

Bekkers, R., & Wiepking, P. (2011). Who gives? A literature review of predictors of charitable giving part one: religion, education, age and socialisation. Voluntary Sector Review, 2(3), 337-365.

[–]haterandhypocrite 8 points9 points10 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

This reminds me of an article I read that said a study showed that women are more likely, when dividing up a candy bar, to take the bigger piece.

It's a habitual, perhaps even innate selfishness. They're entitled, selfish little children.

[–]alexwilson92 3 points4 points5 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Link?

[–]haterandhypocrite 5 points6 points7 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Finally found it:

Women are more selfish than men, more likely to badmouth friends, study says.

Surprise, surprise.

[–]Exactly_what_I_think -1 points0 points1 point 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Tip ranting usually includes how female professionals are bad/non tippers.

[–]TRP VanguardVZPurp 8 points9 points10 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Women are selfish narcissists. You couldn't convince them to make sacrifices, but you can program men to, even to the extent that men will put their lives on the line for a cause. When would you see a woman do that? They operate on deception for self-preservation and the preservation of their genetic lineage.

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