The drastic correlation between female sexual behavior before marriage and successful marriages.

random_reddit_accoun · 2013-07-03T18:36:47+00:00

WOW. The marriage success rate for women who have had 16-20 partners is 17.8% and the rate for women with 21+ partners is 20.4%.

I would have never guessed the numbers were THAT low. I am astonished.

2013-07-03T17:44:46+00:00

I'll take two sluts for now.

Don't call me in the morning, I'll be busy.

realniggasstandup · 2013-07-03T17:05:54+00:00

Delaying sex led to happier, longer, lasting relationships:

http://blog.smarterrelationships.com/2012/01/23/delayed-gratification-hold-off-on-the-sex-for-now/

Females with history of casual sex report most depression problems:

http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/resources/life-and-family/abstinence-and-chastity/females-with-history-of-casual-sex-report-most-depressive-symptoms/

Multiple sex partners leads to depression, anxiety:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23400516

Another study linking emotional problems with casual sex:

http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/fulfillment-any-age/201303/sexual-hookups-and-psychological-health

Behavior genetic analysis shows that 49% of sociosexual orientation is heritable; if you have kids with a slut, the chances of your daughters being sluts increases:

http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/fulfillment-any-age/201303/sexual-hookups-and-psychological-health

Promiscuity is hardwired in some women:

http://home.ku.edu.tr/eorhon/public_html/research%20paper's%20article/Johnston_2006_Trends-in-Cognitive-Sciences.pdf

Scarbrough and Johnston examined the mate choices of heterosexual females as a function of their ‘2D:4D’ digit ratio (index ﬁnger length divided by ring ﬁnger length), a sexually dimorphic trait (it is lower in males than females) that is a putative index of androgen exposure in the uterus [41]. They found that compared with high 2D:4D females, low 2D:4D females were psychologically de-feminized (measured by the Bem Sex Role Inventory [42]), physiologically de-feminized (measured by menstrual regularity), bonded poorly to their fathers (measured using a parental bonding instrument [43]), reported shorter intimate relationships with males, and preferred a more masculine male face around ovulation. Although all women had a preference for a masculinized STM who was not signiﬁcantly different from their attractive male choice, only low 2D:4D women desired similar masculine attributes in their LTMs.

Furthermore, women with low 2D:4D digit ratios also score high on the Sociosexual Orientation Inventory [46], a measure of their willingness to engage in uncommitted sexual activity [47]

Taken together, these ﬁndings indicate that low 2D:4D women are more attracted to a male’s secondary sexual characteristics (facial androgen markers and male pheromones), prefer such ‘good genes’ males as mates (STM, LTM, and at ovulation), but don’t bond well (low paternal bonding, short relationships, and promiscuity), perhaps as a consequence of their emotional structure (de-feminized).

BY CONTRAST:

high 2D:4D females are stereotypically female, bond well to males, are sexually reserved, and seek less masculinized males for LTMs, or when there is a high probability of conception.

ThorLives · 2013-07-04T02:55:56+00:00

Another article on the same website: http://socialpathology.blogspot.com/2012/03/promiscuity-data-guest-post.html This one suggests that divorce rate is highest for women who have had two sexual partners before marriage. Virgin brides have the lowest divorce rates. But, women having more than two sexual partners seems to lower the chances of divorce. See chart 3.

According to that chart the lowest divorce rates to the highest divorce rates are:

Virgin bride (lowest divorce rate)
Women who have had 5-9 sexual partners
Women who have had 3-4 or 10-20 sexual partners
Women who have had 1 sexual partner
Women who have had 21+ sexual partners
Women who have had 2 sexual partners (highest divorce rate)

I could imagine that religiosity is correlated with teachings about being a virgin until marriage and correlated with teachings against divorce. (For example, my family is very religious. They always taught "no sex before marriage". Regarding divorce: my religious grandmother never approved of my aunt's divorce even though my uncle was abusive. One can clearly see how religion influenced the "no sex before marriage" and "no divorce" opinions in my family.)

Also, in attempting to evaluate the connection between divorce rates and promiscuity, I looked up some data on the most promiscuous nations in the world. New Zealand claimed to have the most promiscuous women (based on a Durex condom poll, for what it's worth). It was claimed that women in New Zealand have an average of 20 sexual partners. I then looked up the divorce rates and was surprised to see that divorce rates in New Zealand are lower than in the US. This, again, made me question the link.

Why am I posting this? Because I think part of the "Red Pill's" views on female sexuality is informed (and biased) by religious and conservative views, so there is a tendency to try to prove connections between sexual promiscuity and divorce which are really about supporting preexisting beliefs about what women are "supposed to do" (based on those religious and conservative viewpoints). I strongly favor the use of good data and have a lot of concern about biased socially-conservative data.

trias_e · 2013-07-03T16:24:14+00:00

It should be noted that, from a practical perspective, it doesn't really matter whether it is having many sexual partners that leads to women not being marriage material, or whether there's something that causes both. Either way, avoid women who have had many sexual partners if you're interested in a LTR.

Also, it is likely that the very high success rate of women with 0 previous partners is possibly also influenced by religious and conservative factors. Still, I would recommend any man who wants a LTR to look for this mythical creature. Even women who have had a few previous LTRs are nowhere near as likely to have a successful marriage.

This makes it pretty clear what an awful sign it is that a women is a slut in her younger years. That is, if you're interested in a successful marriage. The hilariously low marriage success rates for women with 16+ partners in the past is almost surprising to me...almost.

_DiscoNinja_ · 2013-07-04T00:00:35+00:00

So, if marriage is your thing, I'd say game until your mid 30's and then settle down with a 19 yr old mail order bride or "bush bitch".

VZPurp · 2013-07-04T02:49:10+00:00

Doesn't look like there will be such a thing as a successful marriage at this rate.

footballtrav89 · 2013-07-03T19:54:17+00:00

It annoys me that the article blatantly mistakes correlation with causation.

Title	The drastic correlation between female sexual behavior before marriage and successful marriages.
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