The Rational Mind

TheFriendWithin · 2015-03-15T16:14:14+00:00

Marcus Aurelius' meditations, and Senecas Epistulae are two good stoicism books.

I find controlling irrationality comes from what I tend to think to myself about what is happening, and thats also something that both of those books teach.

In the words of Emperor Aurelius 'everything is as thinking makes it so'.

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Luke631 · 2015-03-15T16:58:31+00:00

I agree. Critical thinking is neglected in schools. I didn't realize how irrational everyone was until I studied philosophy at my university.

pennyscan · 2015-03-15T19:20:24+00:00

I found this short book quite inspiring.

http://www.bwater.com/Uploads/FileManager/Principles/Bridgewater-Associates-Ray-Dalio-Principles.pdf

shemarjoseph · 2015-03-15T21:49:15+00:00

Read A Guide to Rational Living by Albert Ellis. This book will change your life, and I don't say that lightly.

Luke631 · 2015-03-16T16:06:11+00:00

Here's the thing. I agree with the other comments about meditating, thinking, and reading up on stoicism and all that. But the problem is that most men do not know how to come to logically valid conclusions. So no matter how much they meditate or think about whatever they are thinking about, they usually do not come to a truly rational conclusion; they just think that they do. To me, this is the equivalent of female hamstering. Men are relying on emotions and whatever justification they can come up with to confirm their own beliefs. But this type of "rationalization" is not truly logical. Thus, when something comes along that really challenges their beliefs, they do not know how to properly defend their position. Instead, they hamster away or waiver in belief. Then they go back to square one.

TRP keeps stating that men are the logical sex. Yet men do not really know how to be logical these days because they are not trained to. People throw out ridiculous arguments, and men blindly follow because they do not know how to think critically. Men are more and more becoming like women. They think emotionally and irrationally and justify their beliefs through fallacious reasoning. This is why I think men should at least arm themselves with knowledge of logical fallacies so that they can at least be aware when people are using them against men. There are hundreds of logical fallacies, but you can just focus on and remember the most commonly used ones. Google that shit. It's not that hard.

Obio1 · 2015-03-15T18:35:56+00:00

Learn to code (well). Or study higher mathematics.

In both cases, once you get past the early/intermediate levels of semantics and syntax -- they are both essentially exercises in logic and problem solving.

IllimitableMan · 2015-03-15T21:37:29+00:00

However, it strikes me that the value of developing a rational mind, previously one of mans most important assets in history, has been removed and replaced with being 'more emotional'.

Only in terms of social dominance and socialising, in terms of the economy/developing civilization it's as important as it's ever been. I understand the perspective of your sentiment, but your general assessment is incorrect.

You may find this helpful when socialising:

http://illimitablemen.com/2015/02/08/machiavellian-thinking-vs-conventional-logic/

My next post is about emotion and logic, so you may find that to be relevant also. Stay tuned.

j_arbuckle2012 · 2015-03-16T21:55:51+00:00

Define rational in this context. What do you mean when you say rational? Do you mean you take rational actions? Think rationally? What is this nebulous rationality you are striving towards?

Title	The Rational Mind
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Date	March 15, 2015 3:38 PM UTC (11 years ago)
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