"There's nothing wrong with being a nice guy if you're actually a nice guy and don't think that anyone owes you anything for it."

troubadour1492 · 2014-03-19T12:45:33+00:00

Be nice, just don't forget to be nice to yourself first. That was always my problem. I wasn't so much being nice to try to get something out of other people, but I was being nice too much at my own expense.

randomdude600 · 2014-03-19T13:18:42+00:00

The key to alpha-ness is that it's unselfconscious. Natural alphas are so enticing because they exude a presence that other people lack, a huge part of this is that although they may be polite or well mannered they don't second guess what they do from moment to moment. That's what's beta, constantly worrying about how other people are reacting to you and trying to win favor by pleasing them.

That's why I groan every time I see these "beta or alpha is this or that" arguments about explicit behaviors like pouring a bitch a glass of water or things you say in conversation. People are actually enabling their beta-ness by fixating on behavior analysis like this. It's far more fruitful to meditate or do some kind of introspective work to free yourself from anxious per-occupation with what other people think of you.

Be present, don't second guess yourself and go for what you want, that's the essence of alpha IMO

Samuikr · 2014-03-19T13:18:03+00:00

Don't be a nice guy. Be a good guy.

el_chipi · 2014-03-19T12:06:08+00:00

Completely agree. If you're a genuinely nice person, don't change... he was being nice and showing complete control of the situation, doesn't get any better than that

I think what people need understand is that faking niceness shouldn't be your means to get anything in life. Trp is about knowing who you are and constantly improving

Gorgonzola54 · 2014-03-19T13:39:26+00:00

I think you're missing a massive point.

The reason this guy can get away with being 'romantic'/'nice' etc is because he's...

"annoyingly handsome, 6 foot something, D1 track athlete. Always dressed well, a smart dude"

People like this are playing a completely different game.

athioent · 2014-03-19T13:47:57+00:00

Be nice to your male friends, they actually appreciate it.

ryeprotagonist · 2014-03-19T15:02:53+00:00

Polite RP'er weighing in...

I have found that since I am known by everyone to treat those around me with respect and politeness that when I do eventually call somebody on their shit, it is much more poignant and that everyone takes note (and generally takes my side, since "if the polite guy found something whack about that... then it must be whack".

redpillschool · 2014-03-19T15:08:23+00:00

Feel good bullshit

bama79rolltide · 2014-03-19T14:51:47+00:00

The red pill shows a man to take pride in himself.

We can't help how other people behave, regardless of gender. The key of the red pill is to understand that you have value. Make yourself more valuable and do better. Work smarter to achieve goals that matter to you.

Take care of your health. In P.T. Barnum's book, The Art of Money Getting, he emphasizes this in the first chapter. If you don't have health, nothing else will matter. You don't have to have a physique like the Rock to get laid, but it is important to have strength to not get crushed in a fight.

I've personally always enjoyed reading, and it is not a hinderance. How has knowledge ever hurt anyone? Consider it a weapon used in any situation. Whether its talking to women, dealing with work politics, nutrition, other peoples experiences, fixing things. Anything. Better development of the brain makes for a better quality of man.

You are free to do as YOU wish with women. Red pill just makes you cognizant of reality. It isn't easy to adjust to.

Being "nice" isn't a bad thing. A better term is respectful. However, do not tolerate disrespect. That's the key.

butter1rum · 2014-03-19T14:55:25+00:00

100% agree. There are too many assholes here on TRP.

Human_v2 · 2014-03-19T15:03:15+00:00

You can be 'a nice guy' once you are established as an alpha male. That's why women say they want someone who is nice and thoughtful caring etc. etc. They want an alpha who exhibits those behaviours.

If you are new to TRP I'd say avoid being nice and simply focus on yourself. When you have the confidence to not care what others think of you, you can be nice. It has to come from a position of power.

This seems like an easy excuse to continue down the same failed road as always while thinking you're making positive change. New readers here are always obsessing about not wanting to be the asshole but don't actually realise that the only reason they think those people are assholes is because they don't care what others think of them.

You can be alpha without being an asshole but you have to redefine what being an asshole means. Like many have said, do not allow people to use you because you want to do well by others.

bob4job · 2014-03-19T15:16:07+00:00

"nice guy" is a term we use to refer to pushovers. The kind of person that you refer to in the title would be a "good guy". Being a "good guy" is a great way to become friends with girls (without killing attraction) and expand your social circle. These friend girls can act as wingwomen or tell their friends how cool you are. I'm actually implementing this strategy right now

[deleted] · 2014-03-19T14:02:46+00:00

Was it being nice just for the sake of being nice? Yes. Did it diminish his "alpha-ness"? Hell no.

Well would he have done that for a male person too? I doubt it.

insideman83 · 2014-03-19T12:41:45+00:00

Fuck, even I'm bored with that guy from just reading your post. Where's the fun in not being rude to women?

Title	"There's nothing wrong with being a nice guy if you're actually a nice guy and don't think that anyone owes you anything for it."
Author	bicepsblastingstud
Upvotes	60
Comments	27
Date	March 19, 2014 11:38 AM UTC (12 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/TheRedPill
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