Western Civilization is not declining

AntwanAntoon · 2017-09-30T02:52:38+00:00

The fact that that people want to move to the west and have a western lifestyle does not mean it is not declining. Sweden and Germany are declining, their culture is lost. Places like Barcelona and Paris are now frequent victims of terrorism. This doesn't mean the decline has to continue, but things have gotten worse in several western countries the last few years.

This list goes on. We are healthier, wealthier, with more freedom and more mobility than we have ever been. If you're not on the positive side of that curve, the problem is not that civilization is declining, the problem is that you have failed to get on that wave and ride. You. Are. The. Problem. Own it.

I appreciate the mentality of "blame yourself", but in this topic it doesn't make sense. I can think the west is declining while still thriving in the west. When assessing North America and Western Europe, my own experience is irrelevant. And no, I am not the problem when it comes to Middle Easterners invading western countries and taking over the cultures.

"HALF of all the wealth that has ever existed was created in the last twenty years, 80% of that has been in the west. Globally, and in the US, twice as many patents are granted annually as twenty years ago. Half of all patents ever were granted in the last twenty-five years. The DJIA has tripled in the last twenty years. We now produce twice as much GDP with half as much energy as twenty-five years ago. Average lifespans in the west have gone up by three months every two years for over a hundred years. They are now the longest they have ever been, and the trend has yet to slow down."

You're forgetting something important. Birthrates in the west are going down. That is a problem. None of the achievements you listed will count if you don't breed. The decline, if it continues, would take a long time.

mcgoozers · 2017-09-29T20:27:12+00:00

In 50 years, if you are not a part of the global elite, you will be a part of the 99.99% of serf class. The world will look like Brazil

So long as Democracy exists, the tendency will be for power and wealth to fall into fewer and fewer hands. This trend will continue until the financial system exhausts itself- chaos and nihilism will ensue. Money politics will be replaced by the only thing more powerful- bloodlust. Private armies will consolidate power. People will get more and more desperate, and elect increasingly unusual leaders to help save them. In the chaos, a Strongman will emerge, ushering a new era of Caesarism and attempt global dominance. People will flee the cities and they will decay, and the population will collapse. Such is the fate of not just a few, but every civilization that has ever existed. For more, read Oswald Spengler

The only difference today is the internet. Our cultures are now interdependent, and its hard to say what the implications will be.

thetotalpackage7 · 2017-09-29T20:05:13+00:00

On your immigration point...if you believe the overwhelming number of studies which point to a direct correlation between IQ and achievement, swallow the racial red pill and accept there are racial differences too. The testing, and probably your own observations, bears this out. Let's leave the two usual racial groups of blacks and whites out of the conversation, and start with the fact that pacific rim asians and ashkenazi jews have the highest iqs. Their per capita income achievements provide witness to this fact.

Do you think it is high IQ asians jumping over the USAs border fence or crashing the gates in Europe. Nope. Countries are exporting their bottom feeders or violent scumbags to the west. We can only absorb so many 90 IQ lettuce pickers and Europe cannot handle anymore primitive 95 IQ goat fucking suicide bombers.

There's reason to be gloomy about the west's future on the topic of immigration.

ThrowingMyslfOutther · 2017-09-29T21:05:00+00:00

DJIA has tripled in the last twenty years.

So many ignorant posts on here. So much misinformation.

Why don't you spend an hour and read up what the Dow Jones is, and what significant changes happened after the last recession.

You know there is a financial blue and red pill, guess which side you're on.

no_lineage · 2017-09-29T19:22:51+00:00

I feel healthy and wealthy, I do not feel free. Agree to disagree

sunkindonut149 · 2017-09-29T21:22:34+00:00

I think it's because bigots hear Spanish or Arabic and they think their country is suddenly "3rd world".

tteabag2591 · 2017-09-29T23:38:07+00:00

It's fine to blame other things as long as the solution is to adjust strategy accordingly rather than sit back and wait for changes to come from the top. By suggesting one side of any conflict is the problem, you're leaving out a lot of the complexities of the conflict. Blame can be on both parties to varying degrees. More difficult to dissect but probably closer to the truth if you ask me.

ThePsyentificMethod · 2017-09-30T00:25:01+00:00

Telling people not to blame one thing or another is telling them not to think critically.

Denver_Luv3 · 2017-09-29T18:28:19+00:00

You. Are. The. Problem. Own it.

Absolutely. Have an up vote.

Western civ is so awesome that most people in pretty much all countries want to emulate it. The only way that some countries can try to avoid it is via massive repression. Normal people love Western Civ, love pop culture, want to have hot sex, and want to get out of whatever hell hole they were born in and to the US, Canada, Japan (tough because it accepts few immigrants) or Europe.

Western civ practically defends itself.

TRPSenpai · 2017-09-29T20:47:30+00:00

Jesus. Christ. This so much. The TRP was starting to turn into a conspiracy sub when I took a break.

Title	Western Civilization is not declining
Author	RatioRegnum
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Comments	18
Date	September 29, 2017 6:00 PM UTC (8 years ago)
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