Why do sensitive, sweet singers such as those in boybands appeal to women so much?

I_put_mukmuk_on_face · 2013-11-14T04:13:32+00:00

It's a common misconception that women hate beta traits. Women fucking LOVE beta traits... with one important caveat.

Women love beta traits only when manifested by an alpha, like handsome/famous/rich pop stars. Only then does his supplication have value.

redpillschool · 2013-11-13T23:41:22+00:00

It's the best of both worlds. They are satisfying the need to be with a wealthy/powerful guy and they act like the betas they talk about liking.

rebuildingMyself · 2013-11-14T05:48:16+00:00

Good looking
Preselected by millions of young women hotter than the girl in question
Wealthy
"Talented"
Singing songs that properly mix bluepill and estrogen into a lovely stew

2FAM0US · 2013-11-13T23:46:54+00:00

high status. it has little to do with sensitivity. women just wanna be with someone FAM0US ;)

Sunny_McJoyride · 2013-11-14T00:29:48+00:00

Why do you think Drake went from talking shit about bitches to relating to them?

Fame and Success are incredible tools, but they're also scary to women because women know if THEY'RE attracted to it this way then so is every other woman.

So a little feigned sensitivity, some faux-relateability, and BOOM.

It's called contrast, push pull, and it works wonders.

dropit_sphere · 2013-11-14T00:23:55+00:00

This is a question that deserves a thoughtful, complete answer.

slcjosh · 2013-11-15T01:17:40+00:00

Its not the voice, its the status. Voice is just a bonus for them.

zipzo · 2013-11-14T00:29:56+00:00

Well, remember that the target audience skews way younger, the main market for them is girls going through puberty, who are going to have different tastes from adult women. Also, only some members of a boy band are sensitive sweet (the bad boy, the shy one, the young one, the older brother type, and the heart throb are listed on wikipedia as the tropes for these bands) That said: Mass preselection reinforced by marketing campaigns, physical attractiveness, singing talent (in terms of what teen girls want), lyrics that reflect their realities/fantasies and are constantly addressing the listener...

So it's a big mix. In some cases, their parents attempt to prohibit them from listening to it due to highly sexual lyrics, so there is a forbidden fruit aspect.

redditeando · 2013-11-14T04:13:36+00:00

Your question reminded me of this guy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijr4rwb2WbE&feature=youtube_gdata_player

ryeprotagonist · 2013-11-14T05:37:26+00:00

partly it's the high status, sought afterness of the pop idol...

but also those sappy balads (like fairy tales with princesses) reinforce female primacy within women's hindbrains.

they basically confirm that part of a woman's psyche which is telling her that men should pedestalize them and treat them with the worship that a person who has a vagina deserves.

2013-11-14T07:56:43+00:00

Now the complex theory: alpha behaving beta. One of the two major female reproductive strategies. If you just watch a Justin Bieber interview, don't you get the impression of a "bad boy acting nice" kind? The guy does not lack confidence, presence or charisma, to the contrary. He is more like forcing himself to play it soft. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6XSEi1jTR58

You see the bitter pill is that this is true the other way around too. Beta guy playing hard usually comes accross as a wannabee pretender, a try-hard. I guess most young readers will face this kind of problem at some point. Yet, faking it till you make it is a valid way, it's just part of the deal that certain periods of the faking it will look like a try-hard.

rim_trabajo · 2013-11-14T18:00:41+00:00

Here is my take on it:

Its not women that are attracted to these guys. It's young pre or mid pubescent girls. You will notice the past and present Bieber types are always somewhat feminine looking and not in any way 'alpha' other than social status and notoriety. It gives young girls a very safe and non threatening way to explore their attraction and budding sexuality. You'll notice that once these girls get to 18-20 years old, they are no longer longing after this type of guy.

2013-11-14T07:54:37+00:00

I have multiple theories, first the simple one: have you noticed how women love gay men singers? My mom: Richard Clayderman, Freddie Mercury. Women of my age (thirties): Ricky Martin. Copa la Vida is about as irresistible to women as Prodigy - Firestarter to men.

I think it is not a sexual attraction but the sympathy between similarly "ticking" brains.

rebuildingMyself · 2013-11-14T00:43:31+00:00

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2013-11-14T01:32:40+00:00

Fame trumps all. Fame is high value - that is basically a tautology. And then, you have the emotion factor. A common old school idea in pickup was attraction = higher value + emotion. Hate it or love it, boy bands are concentrated emotion (even if its whiny bitch emotion) and concentrated high value (girl knows her friends will be sooooo jealous if she hooks up with the latest pop hearthrob).

Gorgonzola54 · 2013-11-14T16:13:51+00:00

2013-11-14T02:55:22+00:00

Because they're rich and in the public eye?

dub121686 · 2013-11-14T02:59:11+00:00

Money and power, plus fame. It's quite simple really.

Title	Why do sensitive, sweet singers such as those in boybands appeal to women so much?
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Date	November 13, 2013 11:38 PM UTC (12 years ago)
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