Wow, Seinfield was talking about Redpill before this subbreddit was even born lol

TRPsubmitter · 2014-01-22T16:42:59+00:00

Larry David is a neurotic spaz but he's crazy smart and perceptive. Jerry actual described him as extremely rational. If you ever saw the documentaries about the show, the sitcom it's heavily inspired by Larry David's life (George Costanza is actually real life Larry David).

There are many RP ideas in the show. Larry actually says NBC pushed repeatedly for script changes - in order to make it more in line with the tv tropes, aligned with PC sensibilities. Larry would always walk out on them, no fucks given, he was always ready to drop out of the show unless he does it his way. They would always try to change it, always gave up because Larry would go ape shit and threat them with quitting. Jerry was the charismatic confident guy that kept the writing talent (Larry) on decent terms with the money (the network).

The introduction of a female character (Elaine) was the only way the network would air the show. The best part is that if you folow the show, the Elaine character starts as Jerry's ex (who he's still friends with) who seems to be the well adjusted, normal one of the group. As the show goes on, Elaine is slowly portrayed as the typical hypergamous NY chick. She's shallow and hypocritical (cares greatly about image, physical attractiveness and money), her male prospects become less impressive the older she gets (she goes from being desired by ball players, NBC execs, a Kennedy, chased by doctors to on-off dating a upper-beta mechanic, boring niceguys and even some creeps. The writers do a great job of expressing, through Elaine's dialogue, the "unspoken" realities of female sexual strategy - how subtly women communicate, how much status matters to them, hypergamy, women's contemp for betas etc.

example 1: The Elaine character finds out about how much Jerry makes - Julia plays the "seeing you in a different light" thing perfectly, down to the dirty details - the submissive look and corresponding posture, the voice etc. Ultimately, it's still a comedy so it has to be funny - the whole performance is made to look like a caricature.

example 2 For comedic effect.

It's never described as "the wall" but once George gets engaged (George being a guy Elaine treats likes crap and disrespects throughout the show - probably inspired by an actual woman in Larry's life) Elaine resents him, she feels like she was the one who deserved to be married first - not a loser like George.

In one show ("the opposite") George figures out that doing exactly the opposite of what he's been taught (blue pill imperative) and done before, yields phenomenal results with women.

Kramer, inspired by one of Larry's neighbours, represents (when it comes to attitude and lifestyle) everything Larry wished he had - confidence, natural charisma, risk-taker, outcome independence, social savviness, and balls. Most of George misfortune comes from lacking the backbone to speak up, lacking willingness to ruffle feathers by being direct. His romantic misfortunes stem from being afraid of women instead of not giving a fuck like Kramer.

[deleted] · 2014-01-22T16:21:07+00:00

Kramer is such a great example of an eccentric genius. Not to shit on the other main charcters, but he has the fullest life out of any of them. Instead of just chasing women, or worrying about relationships he's always full on exploring some new crazy dream, or hobby.

karneadou · 2014-01-22T16:25:33+00:00

What a great episode. I think that George actually goes out and gets engaged while Jerry, after talking with Kramer, comes to his senses and forgets about marriage.

Kramer is totally Red Pill. Seindfeld was way ahead of its time and a red pill sitcom surrounded by blue pill shows like Friends.

MahlerNinth · 2014-01-22T16:45:06+00:00

Curb Your Enthusiasm is also a pretty redpill take on a lot of things. Larry David's give no fucks attitude in that show is fantastic.

And Seinfeld is one of the few shows I can still watch after swallowing TRP.

mercuryg · 2014-01-22T21:30:33+00:00

it's so funny that kramer is always labeled as the crazy weirdo neighbor, and yet he speaks such wisdom.

[deleted] · 2014-01-23T01:17:44+00:00

Of course people were talking about this before this subreddit was born. This subreddit didn't invent shit, it's just brought to light what people have already known for years. Kings knew it, the Romans knew it, heck even today in many traditional countries, they know this. This isn't anything new. TRP is timeless.

Theophagist · 2014-01-22T22:12:55+00:00

Well this would have to be the first time Seinfeld received any respect from me.

I literally have a reddit trophy I basically got for hating Seinfeld. So this is a pretty momentous occasion.

oreopimp · 2014-01-23T01:25:41+00:00

Hemingway was talking Red Pill before Seinfeld was even born.

Example: His complete short stories. For an in your face taste of a blue pill becoming red pill and the effects it has on his woman check out The Short Happy Life of Francis Macomber

Phaint · 2014-01-23T00:49:12+00:00

Jerry had a 16 year old girlfriend while taping some of the series

charlieparker237 · 2014-01-23T04:02:05+00:00

Kramer was Alpha as fuck

Title	Wow, Seinfield was talking about Redpill before this subbreddit was even born lol
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Date	January 22, 2014 3:49 PM UTC (12 years ago)
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