This off topic it in the sense of sexual strategy but I would consider it on topic in the sense of it being one of the sidebar readings.

WISNIFG has helped me with being assertive and getting what I want. The problem I’m dealing with is not knowing when someone really can’t help me out when I’m trying to assert my needs. Or if they are just trying to avoid it.

For example in the book it talks about sticking to the point and fogging. “I understand but I want x” until they help you. But I’ve found trying to negotiate, the lowering of a phone bill for instance. They may say they can’t help me. But can they? How low can they really go?

Or I had an issue with a flight and the company told me they couldn’t help I had to change it thorough another company. And then they company told me the same thing. I am I supposed to when someone is being stubborn or if they really can help me if I keep on it.