Am I Even RedPilled?

Hi everyone, I lurked trp and read all sidebar material before my first ever comment almost a year ago. Since then I’ve been giving advice on what’s within the scope of trp ideology and trying to help people in my own position (who haven’t done the reading) rationalize our ways out of this matrix together. This community has been invaluable to me, and now I come to you, seeking genuine input

When I woke up this morning, everything I’ve internalized for the last 14ish months called itself into question. Everything I believed about myself, this community, and my place in it became shrouded in uncertainty. A mod told me I “know exactly jack shit about TRP”.

I’m not here to say “who do you agree with”, nor call out a specific mod. The mod tells me I’m a blue pill beta, I am forced to face the possibility that I am, in fact, a blue pill beta. What I need is for you to look at my most recent account, u/Ekken_, and just lay the fuck into me. Tell me everything you hate about me, why I need this sub to get girls, and why I should be excommunicated forever from redpilled people. Rip the bluepill out of my soul and crush it. NO man can see his own hypocrisy, we need others to point it out, thank you for your help should you choose to offer it.

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The proper notation would not so much be "no idea" as "no skills".

See, before men give advice in RPW, we expect them to able to put into practice what they have learned here, not just understand the theory. So if you get into it with the (female) mod team, it's a failure of game. And you don't have good game, you're not ready to give TRP advice to women.

That's why you got banned from RPW.

You got banned from TRP for progressing to a full-blown meltdown. This is the precise opposite of things like agree and amplify, amused mastery, outcome independence, abundance mentality, all these other things we teach. If you get banned, and have a meltdown in modmail, that shows us that you fundamentally don't get it.

We reverse bans all the time. Not because someone is super humble and contrite, but because someone shows us by how they talk to us that they fundamentally get what we are talking about, and can handle life's little shit tests without losing it.

If you try to go to war with the mod team, it reveals deep seated insecurity and fear, because you need the interaction to go a certain way, because you get all upset if it doesn't.

Women consider the source very heavily when deciding whether to believe what they hear. The same is true of /u/pearlsandstilettos and /u/luckylittlestar, because they, too, are women. What else would you expect? And you say, "well, women are irrational that way", then you fundamentally don't get it. Universal female nature is the terrain, and we do not judge the terrain.

If a woman trusts a man, then she will very seriously consider, and often believe, what he has to say, even if it sounds shocking and horrific to the casual ear. If she doesn't trust him, then he can't tell her anything. Female trust consists of two elements, basic trust in intentions (he is not actively trying to hurt her), and trust in competence (he knows what he is doing, and he is not going to lose control of himself).

Nothing simultaneously terrifies and disgusts a woman more than a man who is out of control of his own actions.

When you pitched a fit in modmail, the female team reacted with revulsion, and they were right to do so. You not only disgusted them, but you also showed that you would disgust all their readers, and that you didn't understand how to talk to women, therefore your advice would probably be no good.

The reason I'm not banning this new account right away ( I usually would ), is that this is a teaching moment. This an opportunity for you, and others like you, to realize that just having read a bunch of stuff and understood it does not mean you have it on lockdown.

Turn off the computer and go talk to some girls.

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1st of all, thank you for the competent and thought out response. Saying I had no idea was a mod, not me, but the clarification that I lack skills is appreciated. I do not appreciate assuming i can’t talk to women because of the way I interacted with them there. You are fully aware that the dynamic is entirely different when talking about these things, there is no need to belittle me for what you do not know about me.

You are very presumptive, and that’s usually justified because of your oft-correct intuition. But I am not a man without practice or knowledge, I am a man who felt betrayed that he couldn’t continue to speak among people who need to protect their real IDs to not face societal repercussions. Even if I were a virgin who had never gamed a girl, I have the experience and insight necessary to contribute to the discussion “what is the truth behind the veil of the lies we’ve all been fed”. I’ve been fed these lies my whole life just like the next man, do I know nothing of them until I’ve had a foursome? I agree, I don’t belong on RPW, because I have a hell of a lot of theory and only a year of practice. But to say that my contributions to asktrp hold no value is a lie, because not every question relies on years of gaming experience, and if you look at my comment history, I never give advice on “how to get a ____ type woman” etc type posts, because I don’t have that expertise, and I am aware of that. I stepped out of line for giving advice on things I am not a master of over at RPW, and that was naïveté at best, but there is no justification for the removal of ekken_ from asktrp.

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but there is no justification for the removal of ekken_ from asktrp.

Wrong. Secure that entitled shit right now.

TRP is not a knitting circle, an elementary school, a group therapy session, or a staff meeting at a lesbian feminist bookstore in Portland, Oregon. It is a group of men, with a mission. It has leaders, and they are responsible to the mission, not to you. There is no right to contribute, because the goal isn't, and was never, to give you a soapbox to stand on and talk just because mommy thought you were special.

That mission is to make certain pieces of information and thought available to men, so they can teach themselves how to succeed sexually and form a powerful and effective masculine identity is a society which is hostile to men and their values. (And, in RPW, to make that information available to women, so they can benefit from finding and connecting with men who have that sort of masculine identity.)

The leaders are responsible for making sure the mission gets carried out. They not only have the right, but the responsibility, to remove anyone who is an impediment to that mission.

The RPW mods report to the guy who banned you. He reports to me. I report to /u/redpillschool. We work together to carry out the mission. You were determined to be dead weight, based on your behaviour.

I have the power to reverse that decision, but it's up to me. I have yet to hear you tell me why it would be a good idea to do so. Instead, you are trying to tell me I have some obligation to. I don't. And you have already wasted a lot of time I could have spent on assisting other men who aren't quite so... remedial.

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Title	Am I Even RedPilled?
Author	Evel-Kylenievel
Upvotes	0
Comments	26
Date	September 21, 2018 3:42 PM UTC (7 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/askTRP
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/asktrp/comments/9hr5qd/am_i_even_redpilled/
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