Clarification on "Sluttiness" / LTR-worthiness in relation to how quickly things sexually escalate?

Nighthawk_Black_ · 2020-07-24T18:55:03+00:00

Make your own mind up what if you meet someone you really like and end up smashing on the first night are you going to rule a meaningful relationship out because of that. All this shit about waiting until the 3rd date is some serious virgin pussy shit.

VSelf47 · 2020-07-24T19:20:54+00:00

While some red flags are undeniably, this is a a “You can’t have your cake and eat it” situation. Decide if sleeping on the first date is a turn off for an LTR for you. Decide if you won’t next a girl if she doesn’t put out in the first date. Remember red pill is a toolbox, you still have to create your own framework.

Even if a girl has sex with you on the first date you should be able to gouge her sluttines, so maybe she might end up being LTR material. At the same time, remember that LTRs are about setting and enforcing your boundaries.

TheGirlGetter9000 · 2020-07-24T23:30:34+00:00

You don't need to adopt my approach, but here has been my logic:

Any woman worth her salt nowadays will have a ONS. No, I'm not in the camp of "aLl WoMeN fUcK 50 DuDeS GuYs" but they will have an n-count above 1 if they're attractive and not raised on a farm in rural Wyoming (aka a girl I wouldn't get along with anyways). There's too much pressure, there's too many options, they're not strong-willed enough. Every girl HB7+ will have at least one casual sexual encounter in her lifetime.

That being said, that encounter can either be with you, or with somebody else. If you screen out women who decided to have it with somebody else and not you, you're screening for women with lower interest in you. Or at the very least, women in "find a BF" mode opposed to "find a hot guy" mode.

Now, this doesn't mean "wife up a chick who's been run through by a football team," nor does it mean "wife up a chick who routinely has ONSs," nor does it mean "n-count doesn't matter," nor does it mean "it's okay if she had a slut phase and fucked 5 dudes in a month."

What it does mean is you need to vet case-by-case, and a woman deciding you're her shot at casual sex who normally does not have casual sex is a green flag that means high interest. My LTR has been great--she's not a unicorn (she's had a singular ONS that wasn't me) but she's had sex with men who aren't me less than a dozen times in her entire life, and she's bonded well, treats me well, and is super hot. She's had options before and after she met me. I was one of the very limited amount she decided to have casual sex--or any sex--with at all. When I first started vetting her, I worried like you--does this mean she's ruined? Does it mean she's untrustworthy?

The answer has proven to be an affirmative "no." She's a great LTR--she is just a normal human who likes sex too. She didn't know when she'd meet me, which guy she'd click with, etc--so she wasn't waiting her whole life for Prince Charming. Would I prefer she was a virgin? Fuck yeah. Did it absolutely sully the relationship? It may have if I let it. But I realized that low n-count despite massive opportunities--and choosing me to be part of that n-count, as she hooked up with me as quickly as anyone else which demonstrated high initial interest--is enough to start an LTR off well.

tikitheman · 2020-07-24T21:16:20+00:00

Shit like this is trivial. You can't really judge the future of any relationship based solely on how quickly you fuck. The only thing it does is prove how into you she is at that moment.

This is why we spin plates and vette our women over long periods of time. That is the only way to get a true idea of who she is and uf she is worth commitment.

Psychological_Radish · 2020-07-25T14:16:44+00:00

This question vexed me for awhile when I first discovered TRP.

You get a lot of guys here who spout off nonsense like "if she sleeps with you on the first date, she isn't LTR material." Notice the source. None of these guys are flaired. They only have a superficial understanding of TRP. This is the kind of Blue Pill shit I hear from Uber drivers on the way back from nailing a girl.

Endorsed Contributors will tell you that this is totally irrelevant. In fact, a girl that sleeps with you on the first date can be a green flag, means that she's so attracted to you she's willing to risk looking like a hoe just to get her foot in the door.

Whisper destroys the Madonna/whore dichotomy in his incredible essay "The Slut, and how not to be one".

boy_named_su · 2020-07-24T18:16:28+00:00

I'll probably get downvoted, but I prefer an old school woman that waits til third date for sex, if I'd consider an LTR with her. A passionate kiss first date is fine for me.

Title	Clarification on "Sluttiness" / LTR-worthiness in relation to how quickly things sexually escalate?
Author	AngTheEphemeral
Upvotes	3
Comments	7
Date	July 24, 2020 6:12 PM UTC (6 years ago)
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