Considering a testosterone cycle

brooklynbooked · 2019-10-27T01:51:16+00:00

Using AAS at such a young age can cause you to stop growing and will severely fuck with your HPTA, considering it is still developing.

You are athletic and have been active, but it sounds as if you haven't specifically trained for building muscle mass? If I'm right, you will waste your cycle. It's not magic and you need to have your training (strength and hypertrophy training) down pat BEFORE beginning. Furthermore, don't you need to stay in a weightclass if you fight MMA?

Go to the steroid sub and post this there. It's a better spot to ask, but they will tell you the same thing I'm telling you.

Also, there's a saying, "no such thing as one cycle". Pinning yourself with AAS is a big decision and at your age there's an increased chance of requiring TRT for life if your PCT doesn't go as planned.

I'm currently on a test/tren blast and I made the decision to BnC. I'm not trying to scare you into not doing a cycle - I'm just giving you straight facts.

ChadChadson19 · 2019-10-27T03:37:52+00:00

I have used AAS for six years now. I'm 37, 6'1 and around 220lb lean now (on TRT doses) and I'll be closer to 230 or 235 when I'm back on the strong stuff. Let me address your points directly then I'll give you my opinion and you can take it or leave it. I'll try not to make this a TED talk but you asked for some advice and I have some to share.

I am considering a cycle of only Test E for 10-12 weeks.

Try 500mg test e for 12-16 weeks and double your first two doses to preload. You'll need at least three blood tests at this time, one before, one mid-cycle, and one six weeks after you come off. You should already know what tests you need and why. If you don't, stop and find that out before you continue.

Been researching tediously for months and feel I have a good knowledge on using them safely.

Good. Some people can handle 500mg test with no estrogen control, I would say probably half the people I know could run that cycle with no AI, but you don't want to find out you're not one of them and not be able to handle it. You should have some AI on hand, preferable Aromasin, but I would suggest don't start taking it until you show high E2 sides. If you start to suspect that, I would say get a blood test and check your numbers before you start taking it. At that point you get a piece of information which is what "high E2" actually looks like on paper. For some men that is 100+, for me it's about 60, it will be valuable now if you find your number so you know for next time. Again you should already know why this is important and if you don't, you need to learn why before you continue.

My goal is to gain as much mass and strength as possible

Let me redpill you on something. You will gain more mass and strength but you're not going to look significantly different or suddenly be benching 4 plates from this cycle. I look at my before and after from my first cycle and I gained maybe 10lb max. Also I'm on TRT so I didn't "come off" and go through a PCT where I lost half these gains trying to restart my natural test production.

sportsfootballcompeting in MMA

This means TRT isn't going to be an option for you. Also, if you ever plan to compete at close to a professional level most of these sports will require testing. So you'll need a plan to PCT and come off. Do you have one? Do you understand that it's normal you can lose some or all of the gains you'll make during the cycle during your PCT?

Okay so knowing what I've just told you, what's the end result here? To get bigger and stronger with visible, semi-permanent results you'll need multiple cycles and/or TRT.

However you can get bigger and stronger temporarily and if you continue to train hard through your PCT you can keep a percentage of those gains, that's a more reasonable goal.

You risk some side effects: gyno, trouble restarting your HPTA, infertility, some people get depressed during PCT and lose their libido. Do you accept those risks and do you have a plan in place should one or more of the above things begin to happen to you? These are not huge risks and if you know how to mitigate them, they aren't even huge problems.

Think about how you might feel six months from now because you lost all your gains and you can't take off your shirt anymore because your nipples are puffy, you can't get a hard on, and you're failing at school because you're depressed and anxious and feel like the world's biggest beta, is that something you're willing to risk, or think you have the maturity and willpower at your age to handle and push through or will someone find you hanging from a belt in your dorm room closet?

Then, to the big question, should you do it?

When it comes to AAS you'll often see "you shouldn't start before you've reached your natty limit" "you shouldn't start before x age" and I'm going to tell you most of it is just gatekeeping bullshit.

I'm not going to lie, if I was in your position I would do it then stay on TRT but then again I don't care much for sports, for having kids, or for having a particularly long life and I've already accepted I'll need to pin myself twice a week for the rest of my life. I'm not going to tell you not to do it at your age because if I could go back in time, I would. I think we only get one shot at this life and why not make the most of it, I'd rather look better every year than look worse and fortune favors the brave. But your goals are your own and you need to weigh up what makes sense to you in terms of what you ultimately want to achieve, and how much you're willing to risk to do so.

Red_Pill_Brotherhood · 2019-10-27T03:00:26+00:00

No, dont do it. "Eat some steak and eggs, kid." -golden era bodybuilder's reply to me when I wanted to hop on cycle. Funny thing when I did a SARM cycle he started offering advice on why I should switch to low dose Test Cyp cycle with HCG but overall the recommendation was "No." Its not worth messing with your HPTA at such a young age. You dont need it right now anyways- your levels are at/near their peak.

frognads · 2019-10-27T01:24:30+00:00

Nope, you're way too young to need that shit.

Talinor09 · 2019-10-27T02:22:40+00:00

Don’t do it before at least 25. You’ll fuck your endocrine system.

KimDongIllest · 2019-10-27T15:34:30+00:00

You’re way too young to start them. I’m 23 but I’ve been on TRT for almost a year now so my situations a little different. Your HPTA system isn’t even close to being fully developed and you’ll fuck that up even if you only do one cycle. If you’re 180 at 6’1, you obviously have a long ways to go before you hit your natural limits. It’s a bad idea to hop on but hey it’s your body not mine.

yoloswagobey · 2019-10-27T01:27:51+00:00

Ur skinny as fuck and dont know how to eat or workout properly. Ask urself this question again at 25.

Title	Considering a testosterone cycle
Author	ChadChadson19
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Date	October 27, 2019 12:56 AM UTC (6 years ago)
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