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[–]thatoneguy9553 points4 points5 points 10 years ago* (7 children) | Copy Link
| She was a virgin before she met me. Would I marry her?
If you'd ask these charts, yes. http://socialpathology.blogspot.nl/2010/09/sexual-partner-divorce-risk.html
| I have a LTR AWALT obviously.
AWALT does not apply to a virgin.
| Chances are she will want to explore the CC maybe a year or 2 from now maybe 5 who knows. Maybe she will want to just be single to "find" herself.
Assumptions is the mother of all fuckups
| Shes not mine its just my turn.
This does not count for virgins. You are her one and only.
| However I am confused as it makes realistic sense to just fuck around at my age since theres about a 99% chance things wont go anywhere with my LTR.
Fuck that, if you think it's not working out. Stop it completely. Do not cheat. Either leave her and do your thing, or keep her and stay loyal.
My two cents: You're bored. You're aware that your SMV is higher than hers. Either drop her, or stay with her. But don't forget, you're the only cock she had. Imagine your future wife taking multiple dicks. Pick a side: Live your life, fuck some girls and end up with a non-virgin women, or stay with this girl who was a virgin when she met you and statistically the chance of a stable marriage will be much higher than your marriage with a non-virgin woman.
[–]superbad4life5 points6 points7 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Unless a virgin is not a woman, AWALT applies. She may not exhibit those things and it may be easier to put down when she does start to show this behavior, but it's still there.
But minus that, everything else u/thatoneguy955 says is correct, especially if your personal goal is to get married (which is against RP teaching; plate). There is an inherent risk in everything we do and you must weigh and decide. But as it was stated:
Do not cheat. Either leave her and do your thing, or keep her and stay loyal.
[–]1RedPillJax0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yes, yes it does. I don't understand the hard-on for virgins around here. I wouldn't fuck another virgin in this life if you paid me.
They are subject to everything non-virgins are, provided she's not a full-on whore - but you should already know enough about that anyway.
[–]bmer92 -1 points0 points1 point 10 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
You make many valid points. I also dont want to be the "first" for her that cheats on her breaks her heart and ruins her for every other guy who has her next. Just confused. My GF is 25. Shes not ugly but she isnt a 9 or 10 by any means. If she held out for that long not being a slut that kind of makes me feel better.You are right I must just be bored.
[–]thatoneguy9552 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
This might sound bluepill, but beauty fades. Fucking sluts might be a satisfaction but it's just temporary, ask yourself, what's your longterm goal?
NEVER sacrifice longterm goals for temporary pleasure.
I'm 20 and my ex-gf confessed that she fucked 8 guys prior to me, and she's just 18 and to top it off, she's muslim. Nowadays girls are really fucked up.
But hey, that's just me and I might be wrong. Do what feels good for you.
[–]bmer92 0 points0 points0 points 10 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
No your absolutely right everything today is about short term highs and never about delayed gratification. At 19 4 years ago I went into the gym for the first time at 6'4 122 pounds. Im now 186 4 years later. I didnt know form I couldnt lift the bar lmao. I dont know why I kept going I guess to be better I was always mr. toothpick and I got tired of it. I guess I suffered from musclerexia because id look at myself in the mirror and say not enough and keep going. Its only now that I look at myself in the mirror and say good enough.... but could always do better if I felt like it. Any further and id probably be competing with jay cutler. Feeling like that got my confidence up I have a GREAT trade job for my age that I got through someone I met at the gym surprisingly. Just stepping in the door improved every aspect of my life. I feel however that with this new found power I have the ability to get all the things I yearned for when I was younger. That being said its a shallow pursuit. Slam sluts? sure that sounds fun but what are the chances of meeting another virgin who isnt hideous who also happens to be a decent person? I already know ill get bored of fucking sluts even if they are girls I never thought id fuck before. Now I know I can fuck them easily and thats enough for me but sometimes its hard combating that urge to show everybody I made it here when they said I wouldnt even make it in the door years ago.
[–]thatoneguy955-2 points-1 points0 points 10 years ago [recovered] (0 children) | Copy Link
You just answered your own question.
[–]itsbooming-1 points0 points1 point 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
My GF is 25.
Um. When did you take her virginity?
[–]hungrywolf92 1 points1 points1 points 10 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
What made you decide to be in a relationship with her in the first place? Were you settling, or were you satisfied with your sexual experiences and decided she was the one you wanted to invest in?
If you feel like you haven't gotten just having a good time out of your system, and you don't see the ltr going anywhere, you might as well break up with her and go full force to explore yourself and enjoy yourself the way you like. Keeping her as your ltr will hinder you from doing this, and make you miss more opportunities. It will also cause some stress because you have to hide, lie, and cover your tracks. Last, if she finds out, it will hurt another human being who trust you, and change the course of their trust with future partners, and also ruin your reputation. This isn't from a moral stand point, I'm speaking logically for protecting your best interests and maximizing your happiness and minimizing stress and negative consequences.
Just from reading your post, I don't think it sounds like you are ready or want the ltr necessarily, so maybe re-evaluate that? You could take a break with her and explore things. You might find out that you are satisfied and don't really want to just hook up, and get back with her. Or, you might be ridiculously happy and be glad you did it.
Good luck with whatever decision you make!
[–]bmer92 2 points2 points2 points 10 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
Well I thought she was exceptionally worthy of my time. Usually women do small things that irritate the fuck out of me. Ive always been kind of a loner but never lonely. I just cant stand most women. She was the first woman in awhile that hasnt irritated the fuck out of me in some way or another. As I stated above I dont want to be the guy that ruins her for every other guy she has after me if things dont work. But im also 23 and it seems stupid as fuck to think that in the next few years thisll be the woman ill marry.
[–]zpatriarchy0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago [recovered] [recovered] (0 children) | Copy Link
it seems stupid as fuck to think that in the next few years thisll be the woman ill marry.
why? plenty of men get married at that age & make it work. because that's what they want.
you need to figure out what you want to do with your life. do you want a wife & family? or do you want to bang sluts for the rest of your life? stop assuming it isn't going to work. as the man, as the leader of the relationship, you are in charge & can make it last.
[–]BudapestPUA 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Okay fam we'll talk this trough and I'll help you make a decision.
First you have to figure out why. Is it just your hunter instinct? Or is the relationship on the down spiral?
[–]Plan_of_Action 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
Last thread I was in shit all over me for saying cheating is a bad idea, but cheating is a bad idea, and a fucked up thing to do to somebody. Own your social contracts. This is part of what makes you a man... or don't get into a monogamous relationship if you aren't responsible enough to keep your end.
Not everybody is interested in monogamy. That's fine, but being honest about this stuff builds character and honestly, if you cheat, oddly enough it'll make it harder to trust her, and will leave you feeling guilty.
[–]Futdashukup-2 points-1 points0 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Course it makes sense to fuck around at 23. You are young as fuck. Its ok to admit, as I'm the same, but you probably prefer to have a gf rather than lots of casual sex. That's ok. Have a gf, and have some girls on the side as well. And if she finds out, who gives a fuck? Life is not a perfect bump-free ride.
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