Diffuse a fight without losing frame

Diabolo_Advocato · 2014-12-25T09:02:51+00:00

There are people that go looking for fights, so no matter what you say, it can escalate very quickly and be bad news.

A weapon is only as effective as its wielder. So unless you have training using a knife it may be worse to carry it. If you drop it, get disarmed, or if they pull a gun on you, you are pretty much fucked.

A weapon will deter most dipshits, but some it won't stop. Either way, DO NOT flash a weapon to try and scare someone. It is meant for self defense and besides, why show you opponent all your cards. Someone comes at you and takes a blade to the gut, maybe there will be one less shithead causing trouble.

I'm a guy and I carry pepper spray. I like to think of it as super pocket sand. Anyway, hit them once in the face and they get -10 to their Dex rolls, -20 to vision checks, and lose all save throws for 3 rounds. That is far more than enough time to kick them in the balls and face to get them off of you. Street fights are not fair and you shouldn't fight fair.

The last thing you want is to try to tell a pissed off asshat to calm down cause they will likely try to break a bottle over your head.

NeopolitanAfterglow · 2014-12-25T22:40:57+00:00

Earlier this week this douchebag was parked in front of a grocery store, blocking the entrance for grocery carts. He refused to move his car, so I forced the cart through, scrunching the front bumper. He chased me into the store, screaming and nearly losing his shit. He DEMANDED that I give him my name and address. This guy is about 4 inches taller than me, but probably in his 50s.

I just turned around to face him in a completely neutral position, neither defensive nor confrontational. I asked him why he blocked the entrance and then waved me in. He said that doesn't give me the right to smash his car. At this point the store manager is involved.

Him: I demand this gentleman's name and address. Manager: OK, you guys can exchange information, or we can call the police. Me: I think I'm going to say no. Manager: OK, I'll call the police and let them handle it. Me: OK. Him: You know what? Forget it. Just forget it. [Storms off in a huff] Merry Christmas!

So basically, don't be afraid to be attacked. Keep your defenses down, and debate, bur don't be physically threatening.

fnordsnord · 2014-12-25T03:23:06+00:00

If you continue to engage, speak in a normal tone of voice. People instinctively quiet down because you can't hear someone speaking in a normal tone of voice if you're yelling.

vandaalen · 2014-12-25T10:18:01+00:00

You need to learn how to fight, in order to avoid a fight. Start learning BJJ or even more preferable MMA.

I practice the latter and I've got no problem to make a guy feel superior just to avoid a fight. A fight's never worth it if it's for ego purposes. Never. I dont care if you think I am a beta, omega, pussy or whatever.

However, if I come to the conclusion, that this particular fight cannot be avoided, some people just want to see the world burn, I'll strike with full force, relentless and ruthless. You better make sure you're wearing a jockstrap, and even then it will hurt damned much and I won't stop until either you are finished or I have a chance to flee the scene.

Watch this video by Rener Gracie to get an understanding.

GentleGiant350 · 2014-12-30T01:18:03+00:00

Walk away without saying a word. Do not reward their bad behavior with the response they crave. They will try to stop you verbally. Ignore it and roll your eyes. Make sure everyone sees you roll your eyes. Be the bigger man. Don't allow them to enter your frame, which is "I'm not interested in your fake, trumped up drama, and I'm not going to fight you". Just walk away.

They won't stop you physically.

If for some reason they try to stop you physically, then your response should be as instantaneous and violent as you can muster. The second they lay hands on you, it's assault, and you must defend yourself. Lightining fast reaction will again deny them the ability to bring the fight into their frame - you suddenly are the aggressor, and it will take them a milisecond to process that, during which time you will have a distinct advantage. You might even win the fight by carrying that milisecond's advantage.

As you respond violently, shout as loudly as you can the you have no interest in fighting, and for them to leave you alone. Then walk away as fast as you can.

Title	Diffuse a fight without losing frame
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Date	December 25, 2014 3:19 AM UTC (11 years ago)
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