I'm honestly curious.

Pushnikov · 2013-10-18T13:07:11+00:00

You're in the men's locker room.

Men say horrible shit to each other, and laugh about it. Men are crude, insensitive and tough with each other, and laugh about it. We aren't going to throw a hissy fit if our buddy calls us a ball sucking, ass raped, bag of herpes.

We have an extreme desire to go through these cathartic measures from the beginning of time. Women saying the same things to each other would find themselves at each other's throats clawing their eyes out. One would say because we train each other to not react emotionally to input, because it is what is best for accomplishing a job.

Men are going to say awful shit because it makes us feel good to get these thoughts out of our system. You can't walk in here and say, "boys, you're not being Nice!!!!"

The only reason some are even remotely let you get away with it is because you claim you are a woman. If a man as a man wrote this same post there'd be a lot of laughs and "fucks you"s and go read the sidebars without even the slightest hesitation. And guess what, that's what you're getting also.

And then you go around defending yourself and trying to validate yourself. You're stumbling around with all the wrong expectations.

And then you're going to leave, as a woman, offended and upset that we're a bunch of assholes.

Guess what? It doesn't matter and the general populace won't care. This is probably the best example of the differences between the genders women want to exploit, and you need to really be hyper aware of this at the moment.

Men are socially non-competitive unless women are involved. We do NOT care to compete for social status, that's why we will call each other's the worst things on the planet and laugh. In situations where woman would be giving vows of revenge for mere words offending their social value and reducing them to a bag of herpes, men don't care about it between each other.

We are authority competitive. We want authority. And you don't get authority by being thin skinned, whiny, self validating and offended. And women instinctually know this of a mans value.

Frankly, it doesn't matter if some men believe that rape doesn't exist. In fact, I don't even see where these posts are. Can you point out examples?

Why doesn't it matter? Because you claim you're being hurt by whom exactly? The philosophy is hurting you? How does that make sense. We aren't the Borg collective. It's a collective of men who have never met each other who have a general consensus on a few things and are trying to figure out and improve themselves in one of the few places that they find solace.

So, Miss, in the end, saying you have dreams of a perfect housewife doesn't make you redpill. Since your desire to reconcile the thoughts off a few with the thoughts of huge many in the interest of your emotional landscape. You don't have a right to be offended, nor are we here to help filter the right from the wrong. You know what those answers are.

You came here looking for authority. (Supposedly) and that makes you a woman with a sense of red pill. However, you have to realize that in your search for authority you are only going to find many male minds at work, and all the hard work and experimentation that it takes to get it ready before a man presents his authority to his peers and sexual interests. Red pill isn't a place of glorious perfect men. Quite the contrary, it's a place for men to find a shelter to be whomever they wish to be - many times far from perfect.

Many times in offensive and crude ways that may have nothing to do with their actual thoughts and beliefs in acts of irony and sarcasm. And we are glad to tell all the women to go pound sand while we go play in our little boys club, because "you just DON'T get it". And maybe that isn't fair, and I sometimes wish it was different- and some women may get it - but it doesn't matter because it's our psychology. If I could walk into the women's locker room and ogle all the tits and ass and frolic with the girls without being told to gtfo I would. Any man would. So don't think this is some double standard. In fact, we have realized these double standards are being thrown in our face simple because of a twist of gender psychology and hypocritical claims of being both equal yet weaker at the same time that exploit the best of an emotional weakness and sense of honor built into men.

Cheers.

ComplainyGuy · 2013-10-18T04:22:20+00:00

one key tip i remind ANYONE coming to redpill..

separate the angst/teen posts from the men posts.

steadymotion · 2013-10-18T01:54:33+00:00

Go to /r/theredpill and read the sidebar.

LicensetoIll · 2013-10-18T03:53:00+00:00

I'm new here, so take what I say with a grain of salt, but I think it's important to remember that parts of The Red Pill are reactionary to modern feminism and society's ongoing disrespect/disregard of male values and the male experience.

Do men actively want to disrespect women and train them "like the bitches they are"? Some, perhaps, but I'd be willing to bet that the vast majority would like to have a loving relationship similar to the one you described above. The Red Pill is about equipping men for a modern reality in which many women seek to use, abuse, and take advantage of them. It's a response. A response to a society that attempts to indirectly but constantly teach men they have little innate value and that they ought to act accordingly.

If I could ascribe a motto to the The Red Pill (and others might disagree, I'm sure) it would be:

"Don't hate the game, learn the mechanics." We're not here to hate our society or our experience in it necessarily. We're here to successfully navigate it. What success exactly means is up to the individual, so individual viewpoints and life approaches are going to vary as much as the person.

Edit: I think a fair comparison of your experience might be what a man who considers himself fair and kind to women experiences as he's constantly bombarded by the media with ideas of how awful, violent, rape obsessed, stupid and lazy the average man is purported to be. You read and hear men talking about how awful women are and you think to yourself: "What? I'm not like that! Many women I know aren't like that!". The fact of the matter is quite a few of TRP'ers have been smashed against the cruel realities of rape accusation, the country's incredible divorce laws and systemized disrespect of men and that (rightly) colors their life view.

ToTheLogicalExtreme · 2013-10-18T04:39:03+00:00

that rape and physical abuse (something I've gone through first hand) is not real

Uhm what? Where exactly? What kind of bullshit is this? All though none of us really speak for everybody, I can confidently say that a vast majority of us do not condone such acts and we do believe such things do happen in real life. We do understand the pain and trauma an individual goes through after experiencing such things, wtf is this bullshit post?

[deleted] · 2013-10-18T13:41:19+00:00

Conveniently summarized for her pleasure.

What is the Red Pill

whatever6 · 2013-10-18T05:37:32+00:00

I see comments about training woman likes the bitches they are

Honestly "like the bitches they are..." is completely your own addition because you are insulted.

frequentlywrong · 2013-10-18T05:14:20+00:00

I've never had many other dreams than to become a housewife, making sure my husband is happy, caring for our children, cooking, cleaning, in general, just being my idea of the perfect woman. While my husband would be the man of the house, willing to protect myself and our children and having a deep respect for me, as I have respect for him.

That is completely red pill and is

Title	I'm honestly curious.
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Date	October 18, 2013 1:18 AM UTC (12 years ago)
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